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AndyMan New Member
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Hey everyone! Thanks so much for you brave souls who were the pioneers of the FL4I diet! Because of your bravery, people like me are going to give it a try! I'm 17 and have begun to fall into the family tradition..... obeisity! I figure I should stop it before it gets bad. I'm 6'2" 228lbs. I've checked out the BMI stuff, and it says i need to be down to around 170-175! So I've got about 60 pounds. When I write it down.... it seems like I'm so obeise!! I don't feel that big! Anywho, I'm starting tomorrow! I haven't seen anything about teens trying this diet, so I'm probably going to be the new experiment! Hopefully if it works for me, some people with overweight teens at home could get them to give it a whirl! I'll be sure and keep everyone updated! It's also going to be fun because my brother is also just starting a diet, we're about the same weight.... I'm a little heavier by about 5lbs hah, so it's kind of a "race." I'm totally going to whoop his butt! Again, thanks to all of you faithful thread posters! Andrew Newton, Indiana:) |
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shamrock Senior Member 
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Hi All! As I was reading the posts, I also got curious about the "new" version of IPD. I accessed it and it does seem to have more choices. I have had great success with the old version but have to admit, I like the fact that more foods are offered in the updated plan. I'm only on day 4 of this cycle but think that I will try the newer version the next time around. I'd be curious to hear from people who have been on this version and what their progess is after the 11 days. Bottom line -- "It's all good!" |
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shamrock Senior Member
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I generated a menu to take a look at it to see the difference. It appears to me that the diet stays in the same vein as the old plan. The difference seems to be that, for example, the old plan might say "turkey," the new plan says "turkey slices and cottage cheese" thereby giving you two different proteins instead of just eating one. The same is true for the meals that would be mixed carbs and protein -- this plan just gives you more choices to eat different things. In the new plan, however, you do get to have a glass of milk, bacon slices, sausage strips, and shrimp, to name a few. There doesn't seem to be any of the weird combinations like scrambled eggs with pasta -- although, now that I think of it, I didn't even see pasta on the new plan (or hamburgers -- so I guess there's a trade off). |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com 
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Shamrock, By new version, do you mean that Fat Loss 4 Idiots has been updated? http://cphdiet.4idiots.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=4FP Or are you talking about Advanced Dieting Secrets: http://cphdiet.year9000.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=AFP Which other FL4I members have written about in this thread: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum39/1424.html Thanks, Peter  |
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shamrock Senior Member
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Hi Peter: It appears to be a new version of Fat Loss 4 Idiots. I accessed it by going to: http://cphdiet.4idiots.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=4FP The basic principles are the same, but there are different food choices. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member 
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shamrock wrote: Hi Peter: The basic principles are the same, but there are different food choices. Shamrock? I get the same information through that site. Can you tell me what you click on? I put in Aug 28 and I am directed to http://dietaccess.com/loginb.html |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member 
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Dobie go look in the idiot diet forum started by Bretan, there are instructions posted by saqmcart on hoe to access the new info, it took me like 10 tries but I finally got in. I thought about you and your wife when I saw the new choices. It may be a great way to switch things up for her. Jayelle |
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shamrock Senior Member
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Hi Dobie: Put in yesterday's date and your password. It'll probably tell you that your password is invalid. Next it will ask you for the date you purchased that plan. Enter that information and then it will prompt you to enter a username and password. That should do it! Let me know if you still have a problem. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I can't believe it, but it won't show them to me. When I select a correct date or one before March 31st, it caches my username password and it lets me in. After that, it shows up with username and password blank and will not let me in to see the new stuff.  |
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shamrock Senior Member
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You need to creat a new user name and password. I use my old one for the old version and made up a new one for the new version. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I understand. Thank you, Shamrock. |
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shamrock Senior Member
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Dobie: I'd be curious to get your take on the new version. I like some of the new choices but miss some of the old ones. I wonder if these are just different carbs and proteins that could be rotated into the old plan. |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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I took some time and really looked at the new version. I noticed that we are also not allowed to have bananas or pineapple. I am happy to see that shrimp has been added, since I like shrimp. The frozen yogurt doesn't excite me that much. I don't crave ice cream and when I generated a menu it only came up once the whole cycle. I'd really miss the pasta with sauce, and the hot dog/hamburger choice and the roast beef sandwiches. The the infinite amount of possibilities that lean ground turkey offers. That has been such a big helper for me on my journey. I notice on this version it looks like a lot more choices but its actually not. What they did was put individual fruit and vegetable choices where as the choice was usually fruit salad, mixed fruit, fresh grapes, cantaloupe and melons. 10 of those selection options are now different fruit, 4 of them are nuts, and 4 of them are fish. On the other plan mixed nuts was 1 choice, fish any type was 1 choice, and you could choose the fruit you wanted to put in your fruit plate or fruit salad. The omelette and egg salad are also no longer options. Milk and cheese have been added though. The a deli sandwich only comes up once, on the fruit and sandwich day, I like being able to have a couple of sandwiches a cycle. At this rate it would take us 3 months to finish a loaf of bread. I am not thinking its all bad though. I like the idea of still being able to have 4 meals on the Fruits and/or veggie days. I think that is a great idea. I also think its great that they've given a chance to make a choice. I know many of us have suffered through 1 too many tuna salads, or egg omellettes in a cycle. So that I definitely think will help break up some of the monotony. It also says that exercise is not a must on the new version. That will put some peoples minds at ease as not everyone is able to get in the required walking. It definitely has its differences. I don't know, that's just what I've noticed. Good Luck to those of you who are trying it. The good thing is, if you don't like it so well, you still have the original version that has worked thus far :D Jayelle |
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shamrock Senior Member
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Hi Jayelle: I'm on Day 8 of the "old" version and am thinking about trying the newer one next cycle. Maybe I'll give it a shot for one cycle to see how it goes. I agree that some of the choices are nice to have but I think I'll definitely miss pasta. I also am a little leery of any weight loss plan that says you don't need to exercise -- I think they go hand in hand. Maybe it's just a marketing tool -- basically people want the weight to come off with as little effort as possible and they may be trying to reach out to those people. Anyway, we've had good success with the old plan and we can always go back.... |
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fwalter New Member
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Jayelle wrote: I took some time and really looked at the new version. I noticed that we are also not allowed to have bananas or pineapple. Hi Jayelle ~ I generated a couple of menus on the new plan and got the orange-pineapple smoothie (which is listed on the second list) and in the prep section at the end, under "Fruit Salad Desert" it lists both pineapple & bananas as allowable. I'm still on ADS and doing quite well, not going to weigh again until Thursday, when I have completed the full 8 days but at the beginning of day 4, I was down 3 pounds. This second version of FLFI looks very interesting and I like that you don't have to eat all of the foods listed. Most every time I picked pasta in the old version it was coupled with scrambled eggs or tuna salad. In the second version, I did get oatmeal & green beans in the same meal, but I can pick just one. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I agree with Jayelle on her obervations. I am glad to see a new set of foods to work in so we are trying the new diet this cycle. Today was easy, but it takes some getting used to. Eggs were with ham and that's it. Not my first choice. Then we had milk and cashews (which I used my mixed nuts I have amassed). Milk was a welcome addition! Dinner was shrimp, grapes, and roast beef. We did not shop yet so we did not have grapes. Shrimp was fantastic!! We had a slice of roast beef while we prepared the shrimp and then did not look back at the roast beef. :) Later we have sausage, chicken, and plums. Again, no fruit today but we will get our fill tomorrow. What I LOVE about this diet is it will help me learn better how to eat several foods in one meal without over eating. Will I substitute these foods into the other menu? Yes. Will I substitue foods from the other into this diet? Yes. But not this round. I am trying it straight for a round and then I may very well combine them going forward. As long as I am following this way of eating, I don't see why you can't combine foods! So this begs the question, Jayelle. Why do you think the rules were not working for you? |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Hmmm...New menu...not too happy. Day 1: Nuts, ham, shrimp, etc. High sodium. Only lost one lb from cheat days (4.5 up) Day 2: Fruit day with sandwich: Had bananas which I missed were not allowed, but my daily intake was two grapefruits, two banans, half and apple and a sandwhich. No weight loss. Day 3: Normal meals...gained 1 lb. WHAT IS UP?! Any one else on the new series? If so, how goes it? Discouragingly, Dobie |
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shamrock Senior Member
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I was going to start the "new" version on Monday, but judging from your opinion, I may just stick with what's tried and true! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Wait, I am not saying it won't work. I am just curiout why both Jayelle on the rules and me on the new plan are not doing well after three days. I am sticking it out 11 days and will keep everyone in the loop. Even if I just lose a pound or two, it is REALLY worth the new foods and the break! As someone said, "MMMmmmm....Cheese" |
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The Violet Storm New Member 
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AndyMan, How did you do??? I am interested in knowing, I have a daughter that is not quite a teen yet (12), but struggling with her weight. Its so sad, to have to worry about this so young. I want to help her and not make her feel "different". Let me know. |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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Hey Dobie! I'm sorry to hear that things aren't going so great right now. I applaud yoru optimism. I think this way will get results as well. I also think that the rotation could get results, I've just been spoiled by the regular way and freaked out by instead of dropping a pound of cheat weight, I had gained!! I was not ready to stick wtih it and risk a further gain. :( I hope things begin to pick up for you!! Jayelle |
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thumper111 New Member 
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Hi Andy, Good luck and congratulations on starting. I have a long way to go too, but after the first 11 days on the diet, I can tell you that it feels good. You lose weight and you lose the need to eat a whole lot. It honestly seems like a really good program. Just learn from my mistakes and make sure you drink plenty of water on your break days! Thumper |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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The Violet Storm, Be really careful about getting someone so young into the diet game. I think now is the time to start teaching her about nutrition and healthy eating. If you need a little tutorial yourself, the tutorials are a good place to start. I don't mean to be lecturing... I don't know your situation at all. These thoughts just came to mind. Peter |
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The Violet Storm New Member
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Thanks Peter, I appreciate that. I am very careful with her, I havent at all even introduced dieting to her at all, she has seen me doing this diet and it has intrigued her a bit, but it would never work, I have to contend with school lunches and her going to her dads house, not that I Would even consider it anyways. She didnt start gaining weight until the divorce 2 years ago, I know its emotional weight, she was very effected by the divorce. Right now, my main goal is to get her moving, physically, before the divorce she was 9 years old and had made the highschool jr. swim team, she was SOO good, a fish in the water. Family fell apart, she quit and will not go back. Will keep working on that. I worry, but I realize that at this point all I can do is provide her with healthy meals choices and help her do some portion control. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Thank you Jayelle. Your words and sentiment mean a lot to me. I have lost back to 219 which is a pound from my previous low. So I did lose weight, but only what I gained during my cheat days. Now Mothers day did see me stretching with the family, but I was pretty good...just wrong foods and dessert an hour after we ate. Anyway, I am with you on being spoiled. If I lose 2 lbs in three days, then I will have a net loss of 1lb. Hardly what we expect. Again, I love the break and new foods...I almost feel like I am on cheat days so I encourage others who need a food break to try this. I will use this again...but after I lose another 10 or maybe 15 lbs. Anyone else try the new foods? Dobie |
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kapers New Member
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For those of us who started this after the new version was introduced, is there any way to access menus from the old version or am I stuck? Since I'm having such a hard time with fruit day, I was thinking I could add some veggies (potatoes even?) on that day, just to have something WARM to eat. Maybe change up my fruit day and veggie day to 2 fruit/veggie days? I know it says no potatoes and maybe I can't have that and milk or cheese in the same cycle, but just wondering if someone has printed out both and interchanged them over 11 days? I would love to have a hamburger or pasta in the 11 days. And only 1 meal out of 44 with bread. Makes me want to pig out on bread on my cheat days. Ugh. |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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Kapers, I wouldn't suggest that you try to combine the two diets. The changes were specifically made that way for a reason. I say stick by the plan you are following for the cycle and if you want to try the other plan the next one. Try to find some fruit salad recipes at allrecipes.com or cooks.com. These are great recipe sites. Also I posted a wonderful saucy pears recipe in the recipe section that is just great. You can probably use the 'sauce' on other fruit concoctions as well. About accessing the old version, I would try the same steps that we had to take to access the new one. Just go to dietaccess.com and follow the steps that have been posted. Hope this helps, the old version is really great and the F/V days aren't that bad. It would be nice to have a 4th meal on that day though. Jayelle -- Edited to comply with Posting Guidelines |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Don't know, Jayelle, I think I might do the fourth veggie meal next time. It's only veggies! Dobie Last edited on 17 May 2006 03:23 am by Dobie |
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The Violet Storm New Member
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HELP!!! I am really interested in getting access to the new menus, but every time I log in, its the same old. I have read your other posts, but still cant figure it out. The first screen I get is the one where they ask they date that you purchased. I put in the date, (which I dont really remember, just guessed) then the next screen comes up where you enter username and password, then I am in, then its the old menu...... How do i get into the new ones??? |
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Charmed3462 New Member 
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When it comes up with the message to enter your user name and password, make up a new user name and password. This is what I did so I can enter both the old and new type menu's. I just added a number to my original user name to make it easier to remember and kept the same password. So for example if your original user name was 'violet', you could make your new user name 'violet2'. Hope that makes sense. |
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The Violet Storm New Member
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Alright Ya'll!!!! I still cant get in, I did what you said Sharan, and I get this message, The UserName that you entered doesn't match any of our Registered Users. Please verify that you did not make a typing error. Then if I try to go into the link and create a new username and password I have to type in my e-mail address and verify the exact day that i purchased. (uh, dont remember, guess I could look in my bank records) Then wouldnt that void out the previous username and password?? I dont want to lose access to the old menu, I have a feeling I will like the old better. |
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juanitalm Member
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Hi everyone, here are instructions to get access to the new menus INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO ACCESS NEW DIET UPGRADE Go to dietlogin.com click on Problem with loggin on click here Click on the last line that says If your user name/pass word isn't working click here Click on the last line that says If you still cant log in click here to create a newpass word Go to the 2nd block of text that says (If the email link has already expired) There is a blank space fo your email address and the day you bought the download. Put in your email and the actual day you bought the program. Set up a new username and pass road This should take you to the new diet. I hope this works I have been on the new menu for this past cycle and lost 2 pounds. I like the different choices with the milk and shrimp but hate giving up the hamburger and roast beef sandwichs. I don't like the fact that almost everything is deli meat. I like only 1 f/v day and not two as in the new plan. I like the fact on the new menu I can have low fat mayo with tuna instead of the fat free with the old plan. I will go on the old plan for the next food cycle to see which one I like the best. I'm glad I lost 2 pounds but would have liked to have seen a bigger loss. I really missed the ground turkey meals. Good luck! Juanita |
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juanitalm Member
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Violet, It still allows you to access the old menus, for the old menus I go to fatloss4idiots.com and sign in with my old pass word. Follow the instructions I posted to get access to the new menus and you should be fine. Juanita -- Edited to comply with Posting Guidelines http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum16/10.html |
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Charmed3462 New Member
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To be honest I REALLY struggled on the last fruit/veg day so I don't think I would be able to handle two as on the new plan. Plus I miss not having the choice of having ham which I consider a treat on the original plan. But I guess the good thing is we can access both so the choice is still there. I wonder if they'll ever stop access to the old plan? |
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juanitalm Member
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Charmed, I hope they don't get rid of the old plan. I will print out more menus so i have enough to repeat if they do. I didn't care for the new menu I think the old menu is simpler and offer enough variety. I like having the hamburger, pasta and only 1 f/v day. I start my 4th cycle tomorrow and cant wait. Good luck. Juanita |
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beautyinsideout New Member
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Hello all I am new to this forum but not new to dieting :) After a couple of months of trying different diets , I have managed to bring my weight down by 5kilos , but I have atleast another 30 to go , just decided to give WL4I a go , its my first day today and I'm finding it hard to stay away from sugars as that is my major weakness.....trying to keep up the water as well ....just wondering if there are others out there who are starting this diet today just so we can support each other :) Look forward to hearing from you all . cheers ! SW : 99 Kgs CW : 94 Kgs GW : 65 Kgs |
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losingallofit New Member
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I am apparently using the new program, but am curious about the old program. It sounds like the menus are a little different. How can I access the old menus?? My husband and I have been following this plan for 6 days now. He has lost 11 pounds so far, and I have lost 5. We take a am and a pm walk, and have been following the diet pretty well. For example, if I don't want a turkey slice, I'll have a ham slice instead. I figure they're both protein so it works for me. We love this plan and will follow it until it stops working. I do worry about the cheat days tho. Haven't done that yet, but I think with the results we're having, we won't be that bad:) |
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NoazAzanoir New Member
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me me me me me... yep i am.but maybe on 31may after vacation. im just like your weight. count me in yea.... i am looking towards that |
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beautyinsideout New Member
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ok noaz , hope you go well on your first day :) |
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silver_sparkles New Member
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I am thinking about signing up for this program within the next few days. Will I automatically get the new version of the program? |
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ace New Member
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Hi everyone. First i was very skeptical of this type of diet plan, ive been on the atkins and other diets, none worked out at all. So most of time after a couple of weeks i would give up. However when school ended for me (im a college student) i decided to try the low carb diet once again, and for the last 2 weeks i have failed, instead adding 2 more pounds to my original weight. So i was sick of this weight i had and stumbled upon the Idiot Proof Diet plan. I was researching if this diet actually worked and etc. and found this forum. After reading REAL testimony from all the posters on this forum i decided to give this diet a shot. I purchased this diet today and will start on this diet tomorrow. However the thing is i have work tomorrow so i feel its going to be wierd eating one of my meals at my break (even though i shouldnt be). So i am just here to introduce myself, and thanks for all your information about the diet and hopefully this diet finally works for me. I will try to post up about every other day or so about the progress of this diet. HOPEFULLY IT WORKS!! Currently i am at 256 lbs. I start the diet tomorrow. Thanks for the support! |
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ace New Member
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i start tomorrow, and hopefully i update my topic so i know where i've started from and the progress i made. but good luck to you and hopefully you make significant progress as well. |
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ace New Member
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Hi i also have another question for you guys. What exactly is Frozen Yogurt Dessert? i really dont know if its like Yoplait Yogurt, or like the icecream yogurt they serve at McDonalds. Thanks for the info, i need to get it tonight for my diet tomorrow. haha thanks. |
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silver_sparkles New Member
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I just signed up for the "Fat Loss 4 Idiots Proagram", and I have a couple questions. 1. Where are the carbs? This program claims it is not a low carb diet, but the only carbs I see are the two pieces of bread I get on my sandwich day and in the ocassional bowl of oatmeal. 2. The meal plans are so simple. Are we allowed to add any sides to them? For example are we allowed to add rice to a meal completely composed of meat? 3. Also, I was automatically signed up with the new version of the program, but some of the items on the old menu seem more appealing. Is there any way I can access the old menus? Any help with these issues would be greatly appreciated. |
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beautyinsideout New Member
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Hi all :) Just finished day 3 , must admit I had a few cheats , it was a stressful day but will get there ! Ace , do you exercise much ? |
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ace New Member
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beautyinsideout wrote: Hi all :) Yes i do. i know that the one of the rules was to walk 30 minutes, but i have been jogging around my neighborhood for 20-30 minutes for a while now, so im going to keep it up. I like to do 2 meals, then walk for 30-40 minutes. then do my other 2 meals, and do a 30 minute jog around the neighbor late night. |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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silver_sparkles wrote: I just signed up for the "Fat Loss 4 Idiots Proagram", and I have a couple questions.
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/214-33.html
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beautyinsideout New Member
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That's great ace , hope your diet is going well. I dont exercise much , get quite exhausted as it is with little children , so its part fatigue and part excuses . Today was day 5 for me and I totally blew it , I have been very stressed past few days with the children not keeping very well and havent been gettig much rest at all , was craving biscuits and what not. Had an ok day but by evening foundmyself snacking on corn chips and mnms . I feel so guilty and the weekend begins tomorrow , heaven help me lol ! |
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ace New Member
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Hi everyone! Currently i just finished the Vegetable day which was Day #8. I am currently at 251 lbs. A total net loss of 5 lbs since i started.! i will do the 3 cheat days soon and start again for my second cycle! hopefully i will lose a lot more weight as i plan to do this diet the whole summer! |
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kaosbeach New Member 
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Hi there, I am new member and was reading your forum on how people felt about the wl4d,and I see that members were talking about the old version and the plan and the different foods,and I was wondering if anyone could share that info with me:D Also has anyone here had good success with the new version?I am going away this week and will start the program next Monday,and I am very excited to get started. I am a female turning 41 next week and I need to lose about 30 lbs.I have tried jenny Craig...2 expensive ,Nutri System....food was ugggh! and just want something simple that works,and this sounds like it. Would appreciate any feed bak,and anything on the old version.I have already purchased the new version yesterday and have generated my 11 day menu,so I am ready to go:D Carrie  |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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silver_sparkles wrote: I am thinking about signing up for this program within the next few days. Will I automatically get the new version of the program? Yes you will. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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The old plan had fewer foods and only one or two per meal (mostly 1). Most of the foods are available in both, but more can be found in the "New version of IDP" thread. |
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kaosbeach New Member
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Thanx for getting back to me with the info will post more when I start the program on the 19th. Carrie |
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RoxieP New Member 
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I've been posting my progress every day in my diary thread. Go look it up in the "my diary" section. Unfortunately, I haven't been doing that well with it - but that doesn't mean to say it won't work for you! If you want some honest information about this diet than take a look. I'd love to hear if you get on well with it too! |
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RoxieP New Member
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I've been following the new version and I'm not doing as well as I'd hoped! All the ups and downs are recored on my diary thread. http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum31/1702.html If anyone wants to read to get an honest and complete account of what the food is like and how much weight I'm losing before they get the plan then take a look. If anyone is using the new plan far more succesfullly than me than perhaps they can give me some pointers? Losingallofit what's your secret? Basically, I'm following the plan to the letter and not losing. Help me please! I'm getting very demoralised and fed up. |
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hgb New Member
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Thanks for the info, Jayelle-- although Juanita's instructions are only for accessing the NEW diet info. As a person who signed up for the diet after they switched to the new format, I'm only given access to that new plan-- I had previously signed up long ago on the old format, and would greatly prefer to use the old diet, but can't seem to get access. Even if I go to dietaccess.com, it still logs me in to the new program. If anyone figures out how a new person can get access to the OLD menu generator, that would be awesome. Thanks! |
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silver_sparkles New Member
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Hey RoxieP I am on the 10th day of the first cycle in the new program. I have already lost 9 pounds. I don't really have any pointers for you, and I don't know why the plan isn't working. Are you drinking all the water that is required? I'm sorry I can't be of more help to you. Good luck. |
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Priskah Member 
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Hi ace, I found Haagen Daz Frozen Yogurt Dessert at Super Target. They only had vanilla, but it was very good. :yumm: Priskah |
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ace New Member
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Really? ive been to a whole bunch of supermarkets like (7-8) around my house and cant find any frozen yogurt!!! So i finished this diet and lost 7 lbs in 11 days. however when i did the 3 day cheat i gained everything back :(. that sucks. im going to start phase 2 soon and hopefully i keep the weight off this time. |
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NoazAzanoir New Member
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I cannot use IFD anymore. It gain me back most of it. Too bad. ... but you should continue it but i just can't |
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Hi...I am just preparing to start the ipd on Monday. I found frozen yogurt at Albertsons. They had Hagen Daaz, Ben and Jerrys, and others. Do you have an Albertsons near you? You might be able to order some online too. |
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ace New Member
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dawgfan1 wrote: Hi...I am just preparing to start the ipd on Monday. I found frozen yogurt at Albertsons. They had Hagen Daaz, Ben and Jerrys, and others. Do you have an Albertsons near you? You might be able to order some online too. I shop at Albertsons the most, i think ive been there 4-5 things during the cycle to buy food for the next day, and ive been starting at the ice cream section for 10 minutes reading every label, looking for frozen yogurt. couldnt find ANY. so i went to an albertsons near my uncles, not there, went to target, savemart to see if they had frozen yogurt. couldnt find any!! so useless for me :(. maybe ill just live off frozen yogurt at the mall where i work even though its 2 dollars a cup :| |
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Kaosbeach, How is it going on day 1? |
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RoxieP wrote: I've been following the new version and I'm not doing as well as I'd hoped! All the ups and downs are recored on my diary thread. RoxieP, With all due respect, if you would summarize your experiences and what you think the problem is, I would love to help you figure out what is wrong. I seed you post links to you diary over and over and frankly, I don't have time to read all the detail. Can you help us help you, please? Dobie |
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kaosbeach New Member
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Hi there, So far so good.I just got back from the lake and made sure I had everything for breakfast and lunch and then I will get the rest of the groceries today. Breakfast called for the banana shake,ham,and bacon.I had the shake a few pieces of bacon and a large glass of water Im really looking forward to this plan as it seems quite straight forward and easy to pack along if one needs to. I weighed into day at 160.5.....so I would like to lose at least 30 pounds. How has the program worked for you this far? Have you tried the new plan. Have a great day and I will post my progress as I go Carrie |
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You can make a request to the Albertson's manager and they can get it for you, or go to albertsons.com and see if you can buy it that way. Good luck! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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My wife and I have lost >80 lbs between us so we love this diet! |
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kaosbeach New Member
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Congrats  Love to hear that,and continue the great work both of you!!!!! Carrie |
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Tomorrow will be my salad day. This is my second cycle. It seems to have gone by so quickly! I lost 6 lb first cycle. Gained back 1.5 on my cheat days. I lost the 1.5 plus another pound. Total loss so far is 7 lbs. That's not so bad, considering that I started on May 30th. I would probably lose more, but I do allow myself 1 glass of red wine every day and I haven't been doing any excercise. I'm planning to try to stay on this until I've lost another 30 lbs. This diet isn't for everyone, but it is just what I was looking for. |
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Hi All, My name is Erica, I came across this diet accidently and it sounded interesting I have done WW and did well on it but ready for something new. I plan to start the IPD tomorrow. I look forward to talking with all of you and I will keep you posted on my progress. I have several friends that are anxious to see how this works for me. Erica |
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kaosbeach New Member
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Hi Erica, Good luck to you and your new venture with the IPD,this was day 3 for me and so far so good...love the plan. Keep in touch and let me know how your doing:D Carrie |
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 Before I started this I read every posting on this sight. I could not find and bad postings. So, I invested and here I am. I love the recipie section. It is great and as I go I will post some of my own.  Last edited on 26 June 2006 11:55 pm by AzPeg |
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kaosbeach New Member
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Welcome A, Hope you like this plan.I really find it easy and satisfiying.Not really hungry doing this plan. Good luck to you and let me know how your doing. Carrie |
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AzPeg Member
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How long have you been on it? Have you lost? |
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kaosbeach New Member
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Hi there, I lost 4.5 lbs in the first 3 days. I will not weigh in till Friday again as I have been going up and down last coup[le of days.TOM is just around the corner,and I had a busy weekend working outdoors and I dont think I got thr proper amount of water in. If you follow the program it will work.Good luck 2 u!:) |
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AzPeg Member
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 Day # 2 I have followed it to a tee and this is the results so far. I know, it's probably water weight , but anything that keeps me motivated is good. We are at the end of the 2nd day and all is good. Did I mention that my boyfriend is doing this with me. Most of it I have gained since I met him. He loves to eat as much a I do and he has gained a little too. |
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200pickles New Member
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I am a newbie, but am interested to know where and how you generated hot dog, hamburgers and pasta as choices. I never got offered these !! |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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200pickles, there are two versions of the FL4I diet and those were choices on the original version. If you signed up after mid April unfortunately those choices are not available to you. I am assuming you are on the new version because these items can't be missed on the old one. The choices appear several times. Sorry for any confusion but earlier posts will refer to the old version and most of these posts (all the older ones) will as well. Jayelle |
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dawgfan1 Member
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I believe the hamburger and pasta choices are on the old plan. Those of us who are new do not have access to the old menus. I am on day 10 of my first cycle. I just generated menus for my second cycle, and changed the foods a bit. I had too many nuts this first cycle, and I have a hard time limiting them, so next cycle I won't have nuts. I don't know what variety was offered with the old plan, but the range of foods offered for us to choose is very good. However, I think our food choices might affect our results if we are not careful. |
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AzPeg Member
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I have been on the plan for 3 days now. what I see is alot of deli style lunch meat. There are no choices for Real Turkey, Real Roast Beef or Real Ham and definatelt no Hamburger or Hotdogs. I was just wondering why all the processed meats:D |
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I remedied that by only selecting one deli meat (sliced turkey) from the list when generating menus. I still have the option of any deli meat on the fruit day, but I also get more chicken and shrimp meals. |
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AzPeg Member
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 Day # 3 Still going strong. I did some yard work today and a little exercise. I do not feel hungry and have stuck to the plan exactly. Walnuts for a nitetime snack. I like riut so, so far the fFruit and Deli day is my favorite. My energy level is good and I do not feel like giving up. Which is a good thing for me, because I am known not to stick to plans or schedules and I usually do what I want. |
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Thanks dawgfan1, I will try that next cycle. There are just so many preservitives and salt in the processed meats it's hard to beleive you should eat so much of it. I did choose all the meats I liked, but some of them show up way too much. AzPeg |
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I'm going to substitute real turkey for the deli turkey at times. I don't believe it will matter as long as there is no skin on it. |
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Day # 5 OOPS, missed day # 4 I have been real busy. Sold a house, Booked a cruise and had an interview for a new job. AND, I've lost 6 lbs in 5 days.  Yippie. The cruise in an Eastern Cababbian Cruise. We leave from Ft. Laudredale ,Fla on 9/2 and go to St, Thomas, St. Maarten and one stop in the Bahamas at the Princess Cays Resort. So, I have only 8 weeks to look as good as I can. Oh, I also joined Curves. I was a member before and liked it and did real good, but for financial reasons had to quit. I am having no problem so far sticking to the plan. And, Steve is being so supportive. I guess he wants to trim up a bite before the cruise too. Last edited on 1 July 2006 07:35 am by AzPeg |
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Day #6 and 7 Fruit w/ cool whip on day seven. I just can't see how you lose weight eating cool whip. I have still been faithful and have not swayed. I have maintained the 6 lb loss for the last two days. I expected it according to others postings. And, I know weighing every day is not a good idea, but I know what can happen and if you can take the ups and downs and not get discouraged I guess it's OK. I cannot wait until Friday to start my 3 cheat days. On the other hand I am thinking of what I should eat compared to what I think I want to eat. When the day comes I'll just have to see what is more important. I WILL be having Mexican food at least once. The question is what will I choose and how many chips will I eat. |
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Day # 8 Well it's the end of day #8. Maintained again, but thats ok. Today I found my self not very hungry. I forced myself to eat a little at every meal. Just not my usual appetite. I had woke up with a headache and took a 4 hour nap (not like me either). I hope I'm not coming down with something. Lots of Stress going on right now. I hope I can sleep tonight. No Desire to cheat, but cannot wait until Friday. |
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Cycle 2 / Day 1 Well, I got a little behind on the postings, but here how it has gone since day 8. I maintained the 6 lb loss up to the end of the cycle ( my first). On Thursday I was so busy I only ate 3 meals. I added biscuits to breakfast and when out for Mexican food. Nuts and chocolate for a snack. On Saturday I had turkey wraps, chips and dip 2 beers. For dinner we went out for Chinese food. Could not eat much and ended up with a huge stomach ache.  On Sunday, still sick from the night before I ate only a hamburger late that night. Today, I weighed, just to see how much damage I had done. To my surprise I maintained the 6 lb lose. I also started my 2nd cycle today . I am having a hard time drinking the water. that's why I think i have maintained for so many days. We'll see tomorrow.  AZPEG |
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 I am on day 7 of my second cycle. I am down 9 lbs. now and do not feel deprived at all. Of cource we all want it to come of faster. |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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Good going Azpeg. You seem to be doing fine with this way of eating. Great job maintaining over weekend. That's a huge plus now everything you lose this cycle with be making new ground. :) I find the first 3 days the hardest. After that its pretty much smooth sailing. Sure there are occasional urges to cheat, but I am less likely to do so after the first couple of days in a cycle. Keep up the discipline and keep us posted. Jayelle |
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I started the IPD on Sunday, July 23, 2006. I'm definitely a yo-yo dieter, and thought I had tried every diet known to man until I found the this one on a blogsite. I was a successful, for a time, Weight Watcher (kept off 43 lbs. for 3 years) and then totally burned out. Their point system, however, is so imbedded in my brain that I will forever count the "points" of everything I eat! ~ Jan Last edited on 9 August 2006 05:04 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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I'm a newbie, just downloaded the diet today, after reading everything I could find online about this diet. I was able to access the old diet and generate menus from it by following the information from another thread on this site, which told me to go to http: //dietaccess.com/loginb.html and then click on the link to change my password. Then I simply changed my username by just adding a 1 to the end of it, and left my password the same, it worked perfectly - it let me right in. After studying them both, I prefer the old diet hands down. The new one just wasn't giving me the choices the old one does, even though you input each ingredient. Hey, the old way worked just fine for people on this board, and if I can have a hamburger, occasional pasta, bananas and melon, I know I will be MUCH happier. None of these things are listed on the new diet plan, even though when you input milk the banana shake is listed, along with the recipe - can't quite figure that out, looks like the creators have a few bugs to work out with the new diet. So it's the original diet for me. I'm starting tomorrow or Monday, and actually excited about it. I wasn't too thrilled with the new plan, but this old one ROCKS. I just hope they don't remove it from the site... |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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Hi there Used to MunchaBunch! Great name by the way. Welcome to the forum and to this way of eating. We are happy to have you. I agree with you about the versions. I much prefer the old. I have not tried the new but that is because nothing about it seemed more appealing than what I already had. Good luck with your loses. I am sure you will do well. A couple of tips for you, if that's okay. Adhere to the satisfaction rule. Drink the recommended water. Maybe and extra glass since its so hot lately. Be creative so your meals don't feel so blah!! Do the walking when possible, it helps. You can have a bun with your hamburger and hot dog. Ground Turkey can be your best friend, there are sooo many things you can do with it. Stick to one type of egg choice per cycle. They tend to come up alot. Okay, I am sure I can go on and on but you will get into a groove of your own. Good Luck with your loses. Jayelle |
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Thanks so much for the suggestions, Jayelle. I'm sure things will come up and I'll have more questions. It's so nice to have found this board, since the original diet site offers no forums, recipes, etc.... I bought ground turkey today - i'm thinking maybe taco seasoning or low carb ketchup/brown sugar splenda/red onion flakes/a splash of vinegar or just onions and mustard sauteed with it.... I'm still a bit confused as to the veggies - if I eat chicken for dinner, can I have even a few green veggies with it, or a small salad, or is it strictly meat only??? And is it okay to saute a few veggies with the ground turkey? |
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sammi miami New Member
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The instructions say you can throw some veggies in with the turkey... But can you change up the order of these meals like you can with the new diet? |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Yes, you can change the order. Today's menu for me was #1, cottage cheese, #2, tuna salad, #3 baked fish, and #4 - banana shake. It's now 8:30pm, I'm finishing my banana shake, and I'm satisfied. Life is good! :yumm: |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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:yumm: :yumm: :yumm: :yumm: :yumm: Day 1, down 2.5 lbs. Yep, I know it's water, but it's certainly motivating. You were all right, this diet is very doable. You eat so often, that even though you aren't really full, you know you will be eating again in 2.5 or 3 hours. :yumm: :yumm: :yumm: :yumm: :yumm: Last edited on 26 July 2006 03:38 am by Used To MunchaBunch |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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Way to Go!!! We don't mind you being vocal, but can I request that you stick to one thread instead of starting a new ones? It will make it easier to follow your progress and that way other threads won't get lost. I am happy to see that you are off to such a great start. Why don't you design yourself a ticker. It's been pretty motivating for me to see that little thing move closer to my goal. Just a thought. Have a great IPD day! Jayelle |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Advice taken, Jayelle ;) One question, tho, if I post just to this thread will it surface to the top of the list when an entry is made or will it stay further down the pages, following the order of the first post to the thread? Last edited on 24 July 2006 09:20 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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firmjoy New Member
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Am going to join you on your thread….today is day 1 for me too….don’t want to weigh myself, am 5’7 and I was 160 June 30th, and now am 152….I need to get to 145 by August 15th(my birthday) and also I go for my fitting for my wedding dress….I really hope I can lose these 7lbs! I will be checking in here with you thru this first 11 days! Joy Last edited on 24 July 2006 09:31 pm by firmjoy |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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You can do it, firmjoy - from everything I've read it shouldn't be a problem if you just follow the plan - I've dieted on and off for years, sometimes successfully, sometimes not so. I try and drink a lot of water/coffee/tea when I'm hungry, it helps get me thru til the next meal. And since I eat every 3 hours on this diet, it's not bad at all. I tend to do better to start my first meal late morning, so that I have a meal or snack left to eat at the end of the day. 8pm is hardest time of day for me.  |
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Welcome and good luck MunchaBunch! I am on day 8 of my 3rd rotation doing the new diet. I have consistently lost 5 lbs per rotation, and only gained 1 lb on my last off days. I like the variety of choices with the new plan. I have accessed the old plan and will try it for my next rotation and see how they compare. Has anyone else here tried both versions? |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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I was able to access it by following instructions from another board member. Go to dietaccess.com, then click on the link to change your user name. I just added a 1 to my original name, kept the same password, then it let me in. I kept my original username/password on the new diet site, and it works, too. Hope you have success... |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Used To MunchaBunch, When you post the thread moves to the top so people will see it. Plus if they have posted in it, or clicked on the Watch Topic button, they will get an e-mail notification any time anyone posts in it. Please be aware that I have a My Diary forum, also. Individuals and sometimes buddies post there on a daily basis. Anyone wanting to keep a diary may do so there, or even in the Fat Loss 4 Idiots forum with a topic title like: My Diary by Used to MunchaBunch. Hope that helps. You can e-mail questions from the link on any page anytime! (I don't always see everything posted in the forums.) Peter |
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HOLY BATMAN AND ROBIN!!!!!! I just got on the scales and I'm down FOUR POUNDS SINCE MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about pumped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the good news, now for the hard stuff.... I waited too long between meals to eat, my fault entirely  and I was pretty miserable. I wouldn't let myself overeat tho, and today I am going to strictly adhere to the 3 hour rule. My problem was I started eating at 9am, and since I'm a night eater, I had to wait too long to space meals out. I do much better with coffee in the morning and my first meal at 11am - 2pm - 5pm - 8pm - so that's the plan for today.Thanks for the input Peter, I'm so glad I found a soft place to land on this forum. Support is everything. :D |
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I've been on the new plan for 3 cycles with the all fruit day. I thought I would starve that day, but I have not. I have my sandwich for lunch, and have not been hungry. I do  LOVE fruit, so I look forward to this day! I think the fruit/vege day on the old plan might be harder for me, but Jayelle's vege chili in the recipe thread is delicious! |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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What meal do you eat Jayelle's chili for? Do you eat it on your mixed vcggie meal? I think I could eat it on my fruit/veggie day. The old plan is different, instead of eating a sandwich and fruit on that day, you eat 3 meals, one veggie meal and 2 fruit meals. I'm really like the old plan, compared them both, and preferred the choices on the old plan because I can have hamburger, melon, pineapple and bananas. WOW, 3 cycles, how impressive - you're sticking with it... How much have you lost? |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Still excited... Jayelle was SO right about the ground turkey. I drizzled just a bit, probably 1/2 teaspoon of olive oil in a skillet, added 1/3 lb. of ground turkey and part of a finely diced onion, Tony Chichiare's Creole Seasoning and a dash of red pepper flakes. Sauteed it, then stirred in a bit (probably a tablespoon) of Heinz Low Carb Ketchup, a squirt of yellow mustard, a dash of worcheshire sauce and a sprinkling of Brown Sugar Splenda. It was GREAT!!! I ate it all, would have been to die for if I could have had some coleslaw, but I couldn't, and I'm full. When I first looked at today's menu, I thought "oh, this is gonna be rough." 1st meal was cottage cheese, 2nd meal was mixed nuts, then the turkey and finally tonight I get a orange/pineapple smoothie. I was pleasantly surprised, ate 2/3 cup cottage cheese at 12, the nuts at 3, and I was good to go til 6 - I ate about 1/3 cup of nuts, I'm thinking that's too many, but I was still a bit hungry afterwards. How many nuts do others eat Do you think I'm eating too large of portions |
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firmjoy New Member
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I have not gotten on the scale yet....but am sticking to it.... I am running while doing this, and am wondering if that's ok? |
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Another .5 lbs. gone - that's 4.5 since Sunday... I was gone last evening, got home late, didn't eat my 4th meal. Today is veggies and fruits, I'm a bit apprehensive about being really hungry since the only protein I'll have is in the pinto beans I'm having for lunch. But I will deal with it... Gonna have a cuppa  and it will have to hold me until 11 am. My fault for not eating that last meal yesterday evening, now I'm hungry. Firmjoy, I'm sure the running is ok, it's exercise. Hang in there, stay focused on that wedding. This is much better than stress eating, which I tend to do when I'm under pressure. |
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I can't stand it anymore! I will expose myself as an old, out-of-touch man. But what is your avatar!?! Peter |
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My avatar is a Yorkie!!! I have an adorable 9 year old, Yorkie, Munchie, so I tend to do everything centered around her, i.e. used to munchabunch. I sell on ebay, my seller name is Munchie Business, my personal web pages are munchiebusiness.com. See what I mean? I'm getting a new Yorkie pup, soon, trying to decide on a name, hot contenders right now are Lulu, Daisy and Hotstuff.... I'm possessed, I know..... :P Yesterday was not easy. This morning I'm up .5 lbs. I'm not concerned, I didn't cheat, but OMG it was HARD. I made Jayelle's veggie soup, it was really good, I may have eaten too much, two bowls last night, but Jeez Louise I was STARVING!!!!! I'm going to lunch with a girlfriend today, another hurdle, but maybe we'll go to Red Lobster, I can at least have a piece of broiled fish... Attached Image (viewed 365 times): Last edited on 27 July 2006 03:50 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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Your doggie is cuter than your  looking avatar!Peter |
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You're right, Peter, she's the best dog I've ever had... Weight went down, yesterday's gain was just fluid - 5 lb. loss now, since Sunday. :yumm: I think I'm thru the fast losing water weight stage, and will see a much slower loss now. In my Weight Watcher days, my body would typically hold on to weight. I would register a half pound or so loss a week, and then once a month it would go down 3-4 lbs. (This was when I was just weighing once a week). It will be interesting if I continue to have the same pattern eating this way. I don't panic when the scales don't budge, I just stay the course and it eventually will drop. I'm starving this morning, trying to hold off til 11am - that works best for me. I'm still doing good with this, thrilled about the loss, as determined to succeed as ever. It's a struggle, but I WON'T cheat... But ya know, in life you pretty much have to work for everything you get, weight loss is no different. I'm getting there. One meal at a time..... Yesterday I made mini cherry cheesecakes for a meeting at our house last night. I would have loved to have had just one, but I didn't cave. They're gone now, thank goodness, not taunting at me in the fridge. Update tomorrow..... Last edited on 28 July 2006 05:32 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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Still going.... Weight is still sitting at 5 lb. loss. It was a really hard day yesterday. I starved all day. Ate a few nuts I shouldn't, and last night I had two pieces of fat free cheese that wasn't allowed. I was just miserable I was so hungry and did the best I could to limit damage control. This morning is good tho... I had a coffee, waiting until noon to eat - good menu choices today, too. Roast Beef Sandwich at noon, tuna salad plate in the afternoon, chicken with a little pasta and spaghetti sauce for dinner, and oatmeal for a snack. I'm as determined as ever... I know the scale will go on down, it can't sit at a 5 lb. loss with the way I'm eating. I'm walking of a morning, 85 this morning, but I did it.... Life is good - I CAN DO THIS!!!!  |
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pommedownunder New Member
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Just started the diet today and am interested in the old diet. Can't seem to follow the links that you suggested do you know if this still works? Is it really true that you could eat a hambrger and pasta on the old diet? Could someone please confirm if sausage links are what we call in the UK normal pork sausages, I do not want to start tucking into bangers if this is not the case. I look forward to someone getting back to me as soon as possible as these sausages appear on today's menu. Must go and have another glass of water!!! |
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dawgfan1 Member
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Hi and welcome pommedownunder! I am on the new plan and have used chicken sausages for sausage links, but I do think the mean the pork breakfast sausage links. I have not seen any more details than sausage links anywhere. I was able to access the old menus, and have generated a plan for my next rotation, but I think I like the new plan better. The old plan includes different foods, like hamburgers and pasta, than the new plan, but there are a lot more choices with the new plan. |
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I'm now on Day 10 , down another quarter of a pound, for a total of 5.25 lbs. now. I think I'm eating too many nuts, substituting them when I shouldn't for a meal. But I have a history of losing EXTREMELY slow, so maybe I'm thru the water portion of the diet now, and into the fat loss. It's so hot in Evansville, 100 yesterday, so I'm not walking either. Just can't handle the heat! Maybe I'll hit the mall today, at least I can get some exercise there. I continue to struggle with this, afraid to eat large enough portions to sustain me, and then being really hungry. I'm also going to extend my IPD days by one day. I was scheduled to start my first cheat day on Thursday, but I'm going to stay on program an extra day because I want my cheat days to always be Friday/Saturday/Sunday. I'm actually looking forward to the 2nd rotation. Am I nuts or what???  Last edited on 1 August 2006 07:53 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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sammi miami New Member
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I am not losing weight on the vegetarian version of the diet... Has anyone else experienced this and had better luck on the omnivore version of the diet?! Veggie version has a LOT of beans and therefore a lot of carbs all the time, so maybe is less intensely macronutrient cycling? Would love to hear your thoughts... Sam |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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FIRST ROTATION IS OVER - I'M DOWN 7 LBS  I'm a happy camper - my goal next rotation is to lose 4 lbs.. I'm going to eat a bit more than usual the next 3 days, well actually I'm not starting the 3 day timeout until Friday, but I'm not going to go crazy. I'm on a roll, and don't want to gain a couple of pounds and have to take it back off. Life is good.... Attached Image (viewed 365 times): Last edited on 3 August 2006 06:33 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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pommedownunder New Member
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That's a fantastic loss well done, I hope I get halfway to that with my first rotation. I haven't got much to loose so I seem to be losing at a bit slower rate, only quater of a pound yesterday but it is still a loss I suppose. I think that I am also eating too many nuts and too much cheese I will cut it down today and see what happens. How many nuts does everyone else eat and also how much cheese? |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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First rotation over, and I'm down ANOTHER 3/4 lb. for a total weight loss now of 7-3/4 lbs. for the first rotation. AMAZING, simply AMAZING!!!! IPD is a bear for me to stay on, but ANY diet is a bear to stay on, and the fast results with this diet ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm going to eat a couple of regular meals while I'm off rotation, then back to it! Happy Dance, Happy Dance..... Last edited on 4 August 2006 05:29 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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ajbarren New Member
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Hi all, I am new to this site and have been doing the idiotproof diet, (I guess the old version where there were 14 choices) The new version you are talking about must be different. Are there 30 choices? Do we have to pay again to get the new version? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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My three day cheat is over, and I'm down another 3/4 pound, for a total of 8 lbs. now. Did I cheat? Not really. I did have two ears of corn on the cob last night with beans, and tomatoes, no meat. I had a taco salad on Saturday with only 3 chips and salsa. The shell was baked, I ate 1/3 of it... I just didn't want to eat a lot and be up 3 lbs. and then have it take a few days to get that back off before I started losing again. Family is coming home on next cheat cycle, so then I'll eat more, I'm sure, but I'm back on program this morning... I'm reading that a couple of people are bailing. I'm so sorry it didn't work for them. I'm just pleased that I'm sticking with it. I'm always a "bit" hungry, but I'm getting used to it, and find that if I drink a glass of water/peach tea (my fave from Crystal Lite) or a Diet Coke it helps with the hunger a lot... I've had great success with cottage cheese for my first meal... I put a packet of Splenda in it and sprinkle it liberally with Saigon Cinnamon (McCormicks) and it's pretty darn good. It's cheesy, it's sweet, no danish by any stretch of the imagination, but it goes down easier for me with the Splenda/cinnamon... Another thing that is working well for me is baking orange roughy that I've brushed both sides with Grey Poupon mustard, and then sprinkled with Tony Chichiare's Creole Seasoning. 15 minutes in the toaster oven at 350, and it's really good. Something about the tang of the mustard and the hot of the creole seasoning really gives it a kick... |
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cycomom13 New Member
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Hi MunchaBunch i'm new to the plan just started the diet today so excited. i"ve been reading the boards for sometime now. I got questions i see alot of people lose 1/2 lb or 3/4lb do you use a digiatal scale? I love to read your post you keep me inspired.I'm at 150, 5'3 , 41yrs. hoping to get to 135.Good luck to all. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Actually, I have antique penny scales that I use to weigh. They are right on the money. But, if I were in the market for scales, I would cough up the bucks and by a set of professional doctor's scales. I've weighed on my girlfriend's scales, EVERY scale is different. Of course, we should focus more on the way we are looking and the way our clothes fit, but I'm a scale junkie, I'm on there every morning. I want to know EXACTLY how much I weigh! If the dr. scales seem too pricey for your budget, sell something on eBay, girl. You can always do that to generate quick cash. I've sold on eBay for years, made great extra money doing it. You can do this, just look at it as a job right now. You might not like it, but you are doing this to get the weight off as quickly AND AS HEALTHILY as you can. I averaged a pound a week at Weight Watchers, and eventually I will go back to eating either the Weight Watcher way or South Beach, but for now, I'm motivated and want to get off 2 pounds a week. Greedy little devil that I am. So just do it, and if you are hungry, you are hungry. It's a pain, but this works if you watch those portion sizes and don't overeat. If I'm absolutely, positively famished, I will allow myself a SMALL handful of mixed, probably 8-10 nuts with a cup of hot tea. It works for me. Just be careful with those nut portions, count them out, and then PUT THEM AWAY!!! Good luck, let me know how you do... Jan BTW, I love the ground turkey, I buy the Honeysuckle White Turkey Breast in a roll, then I put a teaspoon of olive oil in my wok skillet, add chopped onion, and green pepper, lots of Tony Chichiare's Creole Seasoning, and the turkey. I saute the entire bag at once, turning it constantly and cutting it up into crumbles. Into the fridge it goes, it's 3 meals for me. Sometimes I put on a bit of 2% mozzarella cheese when I heat it, sometimes I add a bit of sauteed zucchini, it's really good. Works for me. Also good with taco seasoning. |
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cycomom13 New Member
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thanks for getting back. on my menu it calls for turkey slices from the deli, can i change that for ground turkey thats what i use instead of ground beef. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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I'm using the old diet plan, and it calls for ground turkey, the new one calls for turkey slices - I don't see any difference myself. I like the ground, because it's more versatile. If you are a purist, you will adhere strictly, but I just don't think it would matter at all.. It's pretty much the same calories and fat. Should work fine for you.. |
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Sybille New Member 
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I also just started on Monday, August 7. Today is near the end of my fruit day and I am a little hungry, but not too bad. I am not weighing in until after the 11 days. I would like to lose 25-30 pounds. Anyway, lets keep each other posted. I'm going to go eat a peach now.  Last edited on 9 August 2006 04:01 am by Sybille |
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Nir Senior Administrator 
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Sybille wrote: I am glad to see MuchaBunch has managed to go 6 cycles. I think that's great. I thought he was in the middle of his 2nd cycle. |
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Sybille New Member
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My mistake, it was someone else on one of the other threads. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Hey, I'm a GIRL, not a GUY!!!!! And yep, 2 days into my second cycle, and STARVING tonight, but I have one meal to go..... MunchaBunch... |
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Sybille New Member
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Looks like we are all on day 2. Myself and cycomom13 in our first rotation and UTMB (Used to MunchBunch) in her second. It is always seems eaisier when others are doing the same thing. Let's keep it up. |
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eva0915 New Member
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Hi, i just started this diet, its my 2nd day, and I can say that I feel good and feel so optimistic. I am really thankful I found this forum, its a big encouragement for me to move on. Regards, eva0915 |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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LIFE IS GOOD THIS MORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm down another 1.5 lbs, for a total now of 9.5 gone!!!!! This is SO totally worth it!!! So, newcomers, just stay the course, don't get discouraged if you weigh daily like me, (I know it's wrong, I know, I'm a scales junkie) and your weight doesn't drop. You won't lose weight every day, some days you may go up just a bit. It's fluid, don't sweat it! Eeks, horrible play on words.... It's splenda/cinnamon cottage cheese for me later this morning. I'm outta here, time for a cuppa Last edited on 9 August 2006 05:03 pm by Used To MunchaBunch |
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cycomom13 New Member
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hi sybille, welcome, my husband and i started mon. yesterday the fruit day was bad, couldnt wait till we had dinner for the sandwich. dont know if you like coffee but we had it after dinner and it realy help to fill you up.good luck. |
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cycomom13 New Member
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Hi and welcome. I also am new just started the diet mon. good luck. |
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Sybille New Member
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My fruit day wasn't so bad. I had the sandwich first like it said in the plan. I had a cup of coffee around 9:30 and ate my first meal (the sandwich) around 11:00. Then I had a plate of grapes at 2:00, a plum and peach at 5:00, and another peach and kiwi at 8:00. I think by holding off until 11 for the sandwich helped sustain me through the day. I did wake up hungry this morning and I don't usually wake hungry. This mornings boiled eggs and cheese was very filling and I think today will be a good day. Thanks for the welcome. |
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dawgfan1 Member
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I have been through 3 rotations on the new plan and found the best way for me to get through the fruit day without being hungry is to have the sandwich for lunch (meal 2). I love fruit, so I love this day. Also, you don't need to limit your fruit too much. If you are really hungry, eat more fruit in your meals. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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I'm holding steady at 9.5 down. I don't look for the scales to move on down for a few more days. That's the way my body operates. STILL PUMPED!!!!!! |
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Cowgirl New Member
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I am not a vegetarian, but definitely prefer the veggie version of this diet. I don't have time to make tuna salad and eggs; I really like the nuts and fruit and cottage cheese. I found that if I put a pre-determined amount of nuts in a baggie I don't overeat. I have done this diet off and on for a few months and really like it. I just turned 50 and my metabolism seems to truly be tricked by this diet. I started at 145 (I'm 5'7") and am 135. I would like to get about 130, so am in the cycle again. I'm on day 6. This morning I put on some 29" jeans that I hadn't worn in about 4 years. This were not even cutting off my respiration!  Exercise of course is very important... Good luck and hang in there! |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Weight hasn't changed. Going to step up the exercise today and stay out of the nuts. I'm doing great, still... The scale will drop. I'm hoping for another lb. loss by mid-week.. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Weight till the same, but not surprised. We were in Nashville for the past 3 days - ate out every meal, made as good of choices as I could, at least I treaded water. Family coming home tonight for the weekend. I start next rotation on Monday, hardcore for me the next rotation, I want to drop another five lbs.... My goal is to stay the course, and try not to eat much this weekend even tho it's my cheat weekend.!!!! |
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ladyblue9902 New Member
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I was thinking of trying this diet. could anyone explain what the meal plan is like. I understand most if it but do u eat only one type of food each day? |
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Cowgirl New Member
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No, the idea is to trick your metabolism by shaking up the carb and protein offerings. |
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Cowgirl New Member
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How did you two do? Wonderful I hope. I am starting a new cycle today and as always love the feeling of lightness and "in control" that comes with this diet. |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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I'm up 2 lbs. from my cheat weekend, and did NOT start another rotation yesterday. I ate pasta, then had cookies last night instead. Arughhhhhhhhhhh, I know it was because I had sugar on my free days. I am not going to do that again, it isn't worth it. Sugar makes me crave EVERYTHING,and it's hard to give it up. So anyway, I'm back in the saddle again this morning, last rotation was bad for me, we were in Nashville, then I had my kids here from Texas for a long weekend. But you know what, it's okay that I haven't lost more, at least I haven't gained that much and I'm focused this morning. I'm going to do the new plan this time, see how that works for me. I'll be back with updates. I'm determined! |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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I posted my turkey burger how-to on the recipe board. You might want to check it out, my turkey burgers are AWESOME! |
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charyle7 New Member 
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Just signed up today! I'm going to Sam's right after work so I can "stock up!" I'm pretty excited! I love everyone's posts - very encouraging - everyone keep up the great work! I'm SO impressed with this site! |
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Used To MunchaBunch Member
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Hi all, I haven't been around for a few days, I'm down 10 lbs. and holding. There has been too much going on here, I haven't followed plan to the letter, but I'm happy to not have gained. Still pumped..... |
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McDebs New Member
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http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/3;10719;64;0;0/c/0/t/-6/k/b2a6/weight.png Hi, I'm new here. Found this forum yesterday which is the day I started on this diet. I've followed slimming world and weightwatchers but never tried this kind of diet before. I am following the old diet and will let you know how I get on! |
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jillybean720 Senior Member 
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McDebs--come join us in the "General discussion" thread at the top of the page where all the threads are listed! I'm on the old plan, too, and there are also a few folks there on the new plan. We all support each other and offer advice, and we'd love to have you! |
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melleny4 New Member
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Hi, I just found this forum (by accident) yesterday and was so intrigued, I downloaded and started the cycle today. I gained 34 pounds in three years and desperately want to lose at least half of what I gained. I don't eat candy or fried foods, my weakness in lite beers. Does anyone drink lite beer on their cheat days and if so have they gained the weight back because of it? LOL |
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susanleanne New Member 
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Hello All, I have just purchased the program today and have been reading the forums. I have accessed the old and the new and to tell the truth they both look great. I will be starting soon .... just getting all my info first and then off to shopping to make sure I have what I need. I want to lose about 50 lbs. and this plan looks awesome. I love the support I see here and hope to get it when I need it and give it when its needed. I have seen a list of approved condiments which looks great. I have generated a menu and am not too sure how the veggie chili fits into it that I saw on the recipe board. I know that sounds dumb  but how and where do the veggies and beans fit together .... are beans actually veggies ... man do I sound stupid .... oh well i'll never get the answer if I don't ask the question.TIA!!!! Susan |
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labaum New Member
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I'm not sure about the answer about beans and veggies, but I do know that there are other diets that group them together. I was actually wanting to know how you accessed both the old and the new menus. I joined 11 days ago and I only can find the new menus. Good luck! I just finished the first cycle - not too hard and 6 pounds down! |
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susanleanne New Member
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Hi and thanks for responding .... I was reading all sorts of posts to get an idea of what this is like and I came across one from Used To Munchabunch and it said .... "I was able to access the old diet and generate menus from it by following the information from another thread on this site, which told me to go to http: //dietaccess.com/loginb.html and then click on the link to change my password. Then I simply changed my username by just adding a 1 to the end of it, and left my password the same, it worked perfectly - it let me right in." Hope this helps ... enjoy! And CONGRATS on finishing your first cycle and being down 6lbs .... that's awesome! Susan |
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Frankie Senior Member 
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Hi, This may be sort of obvious, but you might want to only buy what you need for a few days, then go shopping again. I went on a huge shopping trip and bought all 11 days' worth of food. By day 8, some of the veggies were not in good shape, and some of the lunch meat had kind of dried out...next time, I will break it into 2 or 3 trips. Also, many have found that a certain amount of substitution is harmless (protein for protein, for example). So, you might find after a few days that you can't stand to look at another slice of roast beef, but still have a pound of roast beef left. So it's good to leave yourself some room to make a few minor changes. For example, in that situation, if I didn't want any roast beef, I'd feel pretty confident that having sliced turkey or eggs instead would be OK. Frankie |
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dawgfan1 Member
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Welcome Susan! I am on the new diet. I tried the old one, but like the choices better on the new one. Be careful of the nuts. They seem to cause some people, like me, to not lose much weight, so I don't select nuts anymore. The vege day includes pinto beans with the veges. I modify the chili recipe by only adding either pinto beans or kidney beans, not all the beans it calls for. I love the chili and it is quite filling. Good luck with the diet. |
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susanleanne New Member
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Frankie - Thanks for the tips on the shopping I will definately be breaking it up into two or three. And thanks for the info for the substituting. That sounds good to me ... lol! How have you done so far doing this WOE dawgfan1 - How did you do on the old diet Thanks for the heads up on the nuts ... I wondered about that and actually I only selected one type of nut but if it doesn't go well I guess I will have to not select it next time. Thanks for the tips on the beans I saw that pinto beans were allowed so I wasn't sure how it was possible cause the other ones weren't on it but silly me I didn't think of just adjusting the beans .... I love chili and the recipe looks wonderful.Thanks for the welcome and the luck! Susan |
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Frankie Senior Member
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Hi Susan, I've lost 3 lbs total so far. I'm at the end of Day 9. I'm not too thrilled with that; it seems like a lot of work for 3 lbs. Someone suggested I'm not drinking enough water, and that may well be true. Another person mentioned that they don't lose weight when they eat nuts, and I know I eat too many nuts. Plus I always end up eating one of my meals in the car, and it's too easy to eat too much when you're not paying attention. So I'm not sure yet whether I'll do another cycle. I hate to admit it, but having the three cheat days is the biggest reason I'd do another at this point. It seems to me that if I'm not going to do another cycle, I'd better not do the cheat days! Anyway, many have had fabulous success; hope you're one of them! Frankie |
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Noosa New Member
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so I started this diet yesterday, and i can't believe how full i am all day...! I didn't get hungry at night, and i wasn't even tempted by anything... I went to a diner with my friends, and they were eating all kinds of junk foods, but i had my cheese omlette, and was quite satisfied... and i lost 1 pound since yesterday!!! 158..>.157........................................................goal........>>>>>........130 27 more to go.....!! Does anyone know if i can have onions and peppers on my scrambled eggs? |
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shamrock Senior Member
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I think you are allowed peppers and onions because on the "old" plan you are allowed to have salsa whenever you want and all that is is tomatoes, peppers and onions. As a matter of fact, if I was really hungry, I'd make an omelet with "whatever" and then put salsa on it -- totally filling! |
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Noosa New Member
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thanks shamrock.... I am trying really hard not to mess up at all. I haven't cheated yet... although yesterday was my fruit day and i thought i could die of hunger! Hey...does anyone know if you can scramble the eggs instead eating them boiled? Good luck to everyone!!!!! New Years is on it's way... good time to fit into little dresses and sexy suits!!!  |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Noosa wrote: Hey...does anyone know if you can scramble the eggs instead eating them boiled? Yes, the idea is to give you variety. but if you picked one you don't like, scramble away. |
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susanleanne New Member
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Ok after all the talk about Thanksgiving I am finally done with that. Enjoyed my fill for a couple of days and now am officially starting. Today is Day 1 and my gosh I am hungry ... lol ... breakfast was oatmeal and I had two packages of the cinnamon and spice and next was an omlette but I am still hungry and I just finished eating .... I know I can have more omlette if I want but I already put all the stuff away and would have to chop and cook all the stuff for the inside .... ugh .... perhaps a nice big glass of water ..... On an upnote I am excited to be starting and look forward to a great 11 days. Susan |
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chobesita New Member
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Hi susanleanne!!! It's great you started today!!!today I just have eggs and cheese and tuna salad plate! I just have 7 days left!!!!!!! good luck on your diet and keep me informed how it's going! Last edited on 13 October 2006 01:26 am by chobesita |
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Frankie Senior Member
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Susan, Congratulations on starting! I have three packages of flavored oatmeal The water really does help the hunger, as others have mentioned. I usually try to save the lightest meal of the day for last, and have the most filling one in the middle of the day. Also if I'm hungry I have some coffee with milk but no sugar. In a way, an omelette is a good thing because it's so much trouble to make another one that it keeps you from having too much. You'll start to get a better idea of how big your meals should be. Good luck! Frankie |
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sillylili New Member 
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Hi! i am a new member and I just have to say that I am on my 2nd cheat day of my first cycle and it is going great! I lost a total of 10lbs! I did do it for 12 days because my husband wanted me to have my cheat day on his day off, so instead of having 4 cheat days I had 12 diet days. Also I am following the new plan and I was following exactly as it said but then I realized by reading posts that i could substitute so I did. I would like to give you guys some ideas of what i did differently. To add to my success this diet didn't make me hungry, a little grouchy, a couple of headaches, but besides that I ate every 2 1/2 hrs, exercised everyday alternating weights and cardio. Here's some examples: First thing in the morning: 1 ounce of pomegranate juice extract (only 10 cal or so) , 1 ounce of mangosteen juice extract (about 25 cal or so) and 2 tablespoons of fiber with lots of water. My exercise was walking on the treadmill for 45 min speed of 3.9 on tues.,thurs,sat, and sun. Mon, wed, and fri 1/2hr of weights. By the way I drank at least 1 1/2 gallon of water everyday! I was always in the bathroom!!!! Also when my meal said milk w/ turkey slices I had 2 cups of lowfat organic milk with 3 tbls of organic p.b (By the way i am a organic freak!) When it was just a protein meal I had it with a side of veggies. Veggie day I had made chicken soup with veggies so i just had the veggies w/the soup. I did struggle on fruit day. that was the only day i felt hungry. I just couldn't bring myself to eating alot if it. When I would eat the fruit I felt full right away, but as time past by man! I was straving! If anyone has any suggestions for fruit day please let me know! And last but not least when it said frozen yogurt I had the chocolate frozen yogurt from costco. Well I hope this helps some of you. I can't wait to start my 2nd cycle. I wonder if I will also lose 10lbs? Has anyone out there have? My starting weight was 233, now 223. I would like to lose those 23 by mid Jan. because god-willing we will be traveling to Europe!! HAs anyone reached thier goal? |
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chobesita New Member
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hi sillylili I'm so happy that this diet worked for you. I bought it months ago, but never completed it. Now that I am going on vacations I'm thinking about doing it but still I'm a little skeptical. Congratulations on your weight loss |
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Kattrina New Member
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I have just signed up and I sure am looking forward to starting. I know I should start tomorrow morning but will wait until Tuesday. It will be way to hard with this weekend being New Years and stuff. Like everyone else I have tried them all. Before I changed jobs it was easier to keep the weight somewhat under control. My new job is truck driver. My hours are insane and I live in fast food restaurants. Sometime I drive for 20 hours at a time so my eating is out of boredom in those early morning hours. I really need to drop 60 pounds. I really miss not having any energy or that just feeling good feeling. So wish me luck on Tuesday. Tomorrow will be a food shopping day. |
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laurie2025 New Member
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Good luck to you! I just downloaded the diet today, and plan to shop tomorrow. I know it won't be easy, dieting is never easy. I'm hoping it'll be easier than some I've tried in the past like Atkins when I passed out in my living room . Happy New Years! Laurie |
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Kattrina New Member
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Laurie, what in the world happened. What could be missing in the Atkins that would make you pass out. That is really scary. |
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laurie2025 New Member
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I was in the first week of the diet, like maybe day 4 or 5, and luckily it was a weekend and I was at home. I didn't feel very good; I had an upset stomach and a headache, I assumed it was just the "ketosis" making me feel bad. I was walking into my family room, and was going to lay on the couch; all of a sudden I got tunnel vision; and the next thing I knew I was on the floor.  My head hit the couch, luckily it was the cushion! Anyway, my husband was in the next room and came running in when he heard the crash, he helped me get up and lay down on the couch. He was really upset, and didn't want me to stay on that diet, and honestly, fainting and feeling so crummy made me NOT want to stay on it. I had never felt that bad on a diet before, even when I was in high school and a diet for me constituted drinking Tab and smoking cigarettes. (Am I giving away my age?!) I know many people love Atkins and do very well with it, it just didn't work with my body chemistry.Laurie |
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Kattrina New Member
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Boy I for one would not do that diet again. I had tried the Atkins many years ago. I quite after a few days because I started getting cold sores and eye styes. Never had those before. I am really hoping that this works. Especially since I drive for a living. That is why this looked better than some. By the way about the age thing, I drank Tab also and back then did the smokes to. |
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taximom4two New Member
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I am on day 4 and so far have not been having any trouble following the diet. Also, I am feeling fine, not hungry or cranky I haven't been on the scale yet, but I was wondering how other people may be doing who are new. I'm eating very plain food and while I see that as easy right now--it might be boring later on...but if I do lose weight as fast as the website said, I'll get used to boring Anyone else out there? |
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Mishie New Member
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Hi there :) Have only been visiting this site for the last 2 days but thought I'd answer your question (some of these posts haven't even been answered....how sad is that!) I downloaded the diet this morning but haven't decided whether to start tomorrow (being a Saturday) or on Monday so that my cheat days fall next weekend. Its great that you aren't having any trouble following the diet. I was a little confused about some of the meals but looking through this forum has helped (I think!). So I'm assuming that when it says chicken and cottage cheese, thats all I have, no salad etc? Judging by your username you have 2 kids? I have 2 girls....nearly 9 years old and the other has just turned 4. I'm 32 and live in New Zealand. Could we be diet buddies? :) |
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taximom4two New Member
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Thanks for posting--I don't feel so alone or so new. I'd love a diet buddy :o) I have a son 13 and daughter 19. Even though I am new to this diet and new to these boards, I have used the taximom name for years...since before my daughter had her drivers license--hence the name "taxi" mom, but I miss all that time in the car with her now!! I have been following the meal plan very very plainly. If the menu says "chicken and walnuts"...I eat chicken (seasoned with some of the allowed condiments) and sprinkle walnuts on top! I think once I get more comfortable with the diet, I'll start thinking more creatively. I agree that these posts help a lot!! I just want to get used to what I need to be doing before I branch out. I haven't been on the scale yet, but my pants are fitting a bit looser--so I think something more than just water weight is being lost :o) Please let me know how you are doing on this. If you want to exchange email addresses--that would be great...if you'd rather post to each other on-line, that's great too! I think we could encourage each other. I'll be gone this weekend to see my in-laws...so if I don't post back to you right away, don't think I've deserted you! |
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twstychik New Member 
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I'm new too. I was posting in the general thread but I'd love to join you ladies! It's always nice to have people in a similar place to chat with. I just started yesterday and I have NO will-power. I had milk w/ my breakfast out of habit. OOPS... and I know tomorrow is going to be off-diet because we're having an italian style family diner. Today is my fruit day and so far I'm not find it very filling. I'm also finding it hard to have just one or two things to eat. I'm so used to haveing protein, carb & startch with most meals that this is a big adjustment for me. But, like you said, if it work like they say it does then I can hang in till I reach my goal weight. Which should take me about 2 months I hope. Oh, and when it says chicken and milk (or what ever your choices are) those are supposed to be your ONLY food for that meal. I don't know if you've read everything but when you create an 11 day menu it tells you what you can and can't do. I haven't weighed myself but after 1 day I don't expect much. Actually, I plan to only weight my self on the day 11 or 12 each time so I don't feel dissapointed if it doesn't move much after 2-3 days. I'm trying to lose between 25-30 lbs. What are your goals? |
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taximom4two New Member
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Hello & welcome :o) I would love to lose 20 lbs, but if I lose 30--I'll be thrilled!! I found the fruit day to be my hardest so far. I had my sandwich mid-day, but I was hungry at night so I had another piece of fruit before bedtime....I know that wasn't on the plan, but it was either that or I was going to dive into a box of cheese crackers!! The next morning I woke up hungry too....usually, I am not hungry first thing in the a.m., but I ate what I was supposed to eat...I'm looking forward to dropping some weight. I haven't been on the scale yet, but I think I'll sneak a peak on Monday. This weekend will be a challenge because I'll be at my in-laws, but I'm going to do my best I will be walking twice a day, so I will have my exercise in at least! Good luck this weekend--we can do this!! I'll look forward to connecting on Monday!! Ruth |
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Mishie New Member
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Hi guys :) First of all, what part of the world are you in? Because you're working in pounds, I'm assuming you're not close to home :) If I'm working it out right, 20-30 lbs is 9-13 kgs (which is the measurement we use in this part of the world :) I've got a lot more weight to shift then the both of you, need to lose about 30kgs which is about 65 lbs (if I'm getting it right). I've decided to start on Monday so that my cheat days fall the following weekend. Is that what you did? Twstychik......I too have zilch willpower!!! I did Sureslim in 2005 and lost 28lbs (i'm getting good at this!) but promptly put it all back on last year cos I just couldn't keep eating the food. It was a lot of seeds etc and heaps of veges and salad, which I just don't enjoy. I've really got to enjoy the food if I'm going to stick to it, and I just love protein!!! so can't see myself having problems with this one :) Discussed it with my husband last night, and he's going to join me. He's the heaviest he's been ever and has just started at the gym yesterday, so I'm anxious to see how we both go. He'll probably peeve me off though cos he loses weight a lot faster then I do, but all guys do I think. Please let me know how you get on with your vege day, I'm absolutely dreading that!! Also, I didn't pick the veges or salad in my list of foods for the 11 day plan, does that matter if I don't eat them daily and just leave it for the 8th day? I plan on weighing myself on the 7th day and also the 14th (just after the cheat days) to see how I go. Although I may even weigh myself just before I start the cheat days so that I can keep an eye on whether I put on weight those 3 days. I just love having someone so do this with! Keep it up ladies and I'll post on Monday with how my first day is going! Bye for now....... |
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Have you ladies decided on a name for your new club yet? One of the main problems experienced by most slimmers is maintaining the achievements. That's because most diets are not a sustainable way of eating for the long term. It's important to know how you'll 'maintain' before you get to the point where you need to do it. At some stage, it might be wise to move over to eating 'normal' foods and tracking the constituents (carbs, protein, fat) to see what agrees with you for maintaining your weight loss. Another tip: concentrate on body fat %, not just body weight. If you lose 10 pounds, but 5 of those pounds were muscle, you're much less likely to keep that weight off! Good luck to you all for '07 and beyond. |
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taximom4two New Member
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Hello, It is Monday and I am starting my veggie day today.  I am on day 8 and I stepped on the scale (even though I wasn't going to) and I am 5.6 lbs lighter. I did "cheat" yesterday when we went out to eat, but not terribly...I ate sensibly, small portions, nothing fried, no added fats...but not the combination I was supposed to keep. I have to admit, I'm glad I did step on the scale because it will give me incentive to follow today as an all veggie day. All veggie will be challenging, but I am hoping to make a psuedo eggplant parmesaen for dinner. I was going to slice eggplant and grill it, pour some homemade tomato sauce made out of canned diced tomatoes that I will season myself, and sprinkle some of the 1 oz of grated cheese and hope it tastes yummy. I'm planning two meals of leafy green salads and one meal of mixed raw veggies-brocolli, cauliflower, pepper, and whatever else I can find in the frig. I generally find raw veggies more satifying than cooked--I think I like the crunch! I'll let you know tomorrow if I was able to do it, but I am pretty motivated after seeing the scale this a.m. I know it isn't all water weight because my jeans are looser I'm in Vermont, USA--it is in the northeast section of the country. It is supposed to be cold and snowy here this time of year, but it has been "unseasonably" warm, so I have no excuse not to walk twice a day!! I agree that we do need a name for our group--what does everyone think? I also agree that this is not a life time fix for my weight problem, but I am hoping it will jump start me to where I need to be...then I can find a workable maintenance program. (which will probably never include Doritos :o) How is everyone else doing so far? Ruth |
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twstychik New Member
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Well, I'm starting all over today on day 1 again. My weekend got a bit out of hand and since I'd only made it two days I decided to start over. Which means another fruit day! Whopee! That was hard the first time last week. LOL Oh, I'm in the midwest US. So, for conversions maybe this'll help. 1 pounds = 0.45359237 kilograms Pounds to Kilos healthyweightforum.org/eng/converter.asp Kilos to Pounds metric-conversions.org/weight/kilograms-to-pounds.htm I much prefer my weight in Kilos... LOL It's a smaller number. |
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taximom4two New Member
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Hey twsty- I like the whole kilo idea...when I did the conversion--I sound skinny :o) I think your starting over is a good idea too even though it does mean another fruit day. So far I am doing fine with my veggie day, but it isn't even noon time yet so it is probably too early to be saying that...LOL!! |
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Mishie New Member
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Hi guys, I'm on my 2nd day....fruit day YAY! not! I'm doing OK though, was a little hungry about 10ish but that soon passed and I'm about to have my lunch I'm saving the sandwich for my dinner meal so that it feels a little heavier.Yesterday was great! I can definately stick to this with all the protein we have to eat....I'm so much a protein girl Thanks Twstychik for those conversion links, heaps easier than the one I was using! How are you both getting on with drinking your water? I hate drinking water, have never really drunk much other than a tea or coffee first thing in the morning. My mum used to joke that my insides should all be shrivelled up because of the lack of liquids I put in to my body Also, are you putting milk with your tea or coffee?Oh and Ruth - that weight loss is awesome! I converted it to kilos and I'll be really happy if I lose that after 7 days!! WELL DONE!! Last edited on 9 January 2007 03:05 am by Mishie |
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taximom4two New Member
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Hi Mishi- So glad you are doing well on your fruit day!! I did ok until before bedtime--but I just ate another apple and it "held me over" until the morning. I have been pretty good about my water...I sometimes (often ) will eat out of nervousness or boredom--I have been trying to train myself to reach for ice water first and walk out of the kitchen. By the time I drink it....the urge to eat will usually pass. My real challenge (other than sticking with the meal plan, of course), is walking twice a day for 30 min. It is hard for me to find that 60 minutes...but I'll keep working on finding that time!! At least I am walking more that I was before so I see that as positive. My eggplant parmasean was okay. Nothing I'd serve to company (or anyone else!), but it made me good that I was starting not to eat as plainly as I had been. I'll keep playing with the recipe--the sauce was a bit acidic....I probably should have dropped in a bit of Splenda or something...oh well....I think more can be done with this diet than I thought initially. Have a good rest of the day & I'll "connect" soon! Let me know how your day went! Ruth |
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twstychik New Member
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I LOVE water so it's relatively easy for me to drink 64+ oz. of water in a day. I do add some powdered creamer to my coffee and tea when I have it but I usually stick to water. Oh, and the colder your water the more calories your body will burn warning it up. If you really don't like water try adding just a splash of fruit juice to give it some flavor. Also, are you drinking tap water or filtered water? I find I can't drink tap water... it tastes pretty yucky but filtered water has a clean crips feel/taste. I'm on my fruit day today (take 2) and I feel better about it. I spent awhile last night cutting up lots of fruit to toss together for a nice salad I can eat all day. I'm looking forward to the veggie day too. I'm planning to do spagettie squash w/ plain tomatoe sauce. It's something I think my fiance will enjoy too. He really enjoyed eating the fruit that I couldn't fit into my container last night. So, maybe some of my diet will rub off on him too. Oh, and exercise. I haven't done any and I'm not a walker. Plus it's below freexing here (finally) so walking outside isn't my idea of fun right now. I have classes tonight so no time today but tomorrow I plan to get back into my yoga routine. I think it's just as good as walking and it's something I always enjoy when I actually do it. |
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Mishie New Member
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I hate drinking water....a cup of tea a day used to do me, so I feel really bloated if I drink too much water  but I'm trying and thats the important thing. Anything is got to be better than what I was drinking before! I have a filtered water cooler here at work so that is much easier to drink than tap water...yuk!Fruit day went well for me yesterday, and my husband even managed to stick to it as well. It helps me so much that he's doing this with me. He's never had a weight problem so all my previous diets I've done alone (probably why I've never succeeded). Its so hard when other members of the household are able to eat what they like! But this plan is much more easier to cope with than the others I've tried, so even when he stops it I know I can keep going without him Hi there newbie, how much do you want/need to lose? I need to lose alot more than twstychik and ruth, so I'll be here for a while |
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taximom4two New Member
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Hi & welcome New Member--the more the merrier, we're all in this together!! I think I will chop up a fruit salad for my next fruit day...that's a really good idea. I also think having support at home is very important. My husband's nickname is "Mr. Metabolism"....he eats everything--ice cream by the carton, yet he has low cholesterol and needs to gain about 15 lbs....life isn't fair sometimes! BUT he is very supportive and that really does make a difference. I also appreciate the support & good ideas from this forum. Have a good day all! |
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twstychik New Member
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Yeah new people! I think the mor eof us there are the better our chances of sticking to it. So, I did my fruit yesterday. I had a different fruit or fruits at each meal and then I had a wendy's club sandwich for diner. Now, I have a realy bad sweet tooth and fruit just wasn't going to cut it so I had a half a chocolate chip cookie. I also weighed myself this morning which is probably too soon but I'm down 2-3 lbs. from Monday morning. Today is a protien day and I can't wait to get my milk! My old routine included a large glass of milk with/for breakfast every morning so thats one thing I've really been missing. |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Good morning everyone!!!! Thanks for the welcome .This is day 3 for me. I'm feeling much more energized, i got really sluggish after consuming too much food over the holidays. I was lowcarbing for almost 3 months before Christmas and my energy level was great and then i went crazy with food...i ate everything in sight and gained 7lbs, i have now lost 4lbs. I really thought i had gained all 13lbs back, what a relief....i guess it was mostly water weight.....not complaining .I can't wait to see what results i get after day 11. The most i have ever lost is 13lbs with lowcarbing, food rotation is very new to me so i pray to see great results. Have a great on plan day everyone. |
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Mishie New Member
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Day 4 today I found my fruit day fine. Had two pieces of fruit in the morning, but then for lunch to do something different I chopped up a fruit salad with grapes and strawberries etc. Just helped shock my brain into thinking I wasn't eating the same thing twice! I'm finding this reasonably easy to stick to. I'm definately not hungry between meals (maybe my fruit day I was a little) and it helps that hubby is doing it with me. That definately helps me stick to it One question though.....can anyone shed a little light on the "cool whip" that goes with the fruit salad dessert? We don't have that over here, so maybe someone can tell me what it is so that I can find a substitute over here. Is is like cream or custard or something that goes on the top of your fruit? Hope everyone is doing good today....KEEP IT UP!  |
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Kaz New Member
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Hi Everyone! It was my first day today, but I feel like I've known all of you for a while! I've been reading this forum for a couple of days (I just posted a message on the General Chat 'part one' post).... And I thought I'd try this diet... Have tried so much in the past and can never stay motivated. Well, the day started out really good... until my mother decided to cook us a roast lamb.... and I was meant to eat bacon with tuna salad plate.. I'm just guessing this is ok since it seems a couple of you substitute some foods. BUUUUT, then I just had to have a bread roll with it!!! Owell, tomorrow is a new day (fruit day), so I guess I will make it up tomorrow and keep my front door locked incase someone else decides to sabotage me!LOL!!! I did find that after about an hour of eating a meal, I became really hungry? Maybe I'm not eating enough? Anyway, it's nice to meet all of you... |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Welcome Kaz, i'm also quite new to this way of eating. Today is day 4 and so far so good Yesterday was good, i had roast beef and bread for dinner and it felt a little strange eating bread as i was previously doing Atkins. I'm so pleased that i can incorporate a lot of the foods i enjoy and not feel deprived or starved. I really now don't have any excuse to fail. |
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Mishie New Member
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Thanks size 10, would appreciate the cool whip info Bread???? How do you get bread on your menu? I only got 2 slices on day 2 to go with my fruit day? On day 6 today, and am doing well. Have had no hiccups but probably will tonight as we have friends coming over. Need to plan better and only have them over on my "3 days off" Hope everyone is doing well and keep it up! |
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taximom4two New Member
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Hi all- I'm starting with Day 1 again today. I followed the diet very closely the first 9 days, then I had to fly to Colorado for a few days and I really didn't do so well eating out every meal--but at least I didn't go "wild"--except for pizza night , BUT the good news is after 9 days on and 5 days off (the last 2 were REALLY off), I am still down 5 lbs! I don't have any trips/outings/holiday meals or any excuse NOT to follow the diet all the way through for the next 14 days, so I'm motivated to do it again. Cool whip is a non-dairy whipped topping--the top 4 ingrediants in regular Cool Whip (not the fat free Cool Whip) are: Water, corn syrup, partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, and more corn syrup. I didn't use any in my fruit salad dessert....I just ate a plain fruit salad. If you like the extra sweetness, you could probably add some Splenda or SweetnLow. If you want the creamy texture--maybe a little bit of non-fat yogurt??? I hope that is helpful! I have to admit, I find the protien days easiest to follow--good day everyone--let me know how everyone else did after their first cycle! I hope I lose another 5 lbs. after the next cycle too! This really has been pretty easy to follow when I'm at home! Bye for now |
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Mishie New Member
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Thanks Ruth for the cool whip info - memo to me must go find it for next time. Just had a plain fruit salad but would like something a little different next time Well, day 8 for me today - salad and vege day  Breakfast was disgusting and lunch will be just as bad. But I will stick to plan!!! One day out of 11 I can do!! Weighed myself this morning (will weigh each 7th and 14th day) and am down 2 kilos....4.4 lbs I believe! I am rapt with that and it has given me the incentive to stick to today's meals even more.Only had one slight hiccup with one meal over the weekend. Went ten pin bowling with the family and some friends and had 3 glasses of wine and afterwards had an Oporto's chicken burger and fries whilst everyone tucked into McDonalds! And to be honest it didn't agree with me the next day. I wonder if that is because we have eliminated most fats from our diet? Hope everyone is sticking to plan and doing well! |
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taximom4two New Member
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Mishi--great weight loss and great job sticking to the plan!!! Something I forgot to mention about the Cool Whip is that it is usually found in the frozen food aisle (even though it has to be thawed before use). Years (and years and years) ago there was a product called "Dream Whip"....I don't even know if they still make it or if it is a suitable substitute...but that used to be found in the baking goods area--it was in a box and you had to add the liquid to mix it up. Have a good day!! Ruth |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Hi All-- I'm on day 8 and i have lost 6lbs so far. I have not been eating properly for the last 2 days, i'm missing meals bcos of the onset of a cold. I'm also unable to drink much water bcos of my scratchy throat. Mishie- I got a tub of fat free cool whip yesterday. Here is the nutritional info for 2tbsp: Total Fat 0g, Cholestrol 0g, Sodium 5mg, Total Carbs 3g, Sugar 1g and Protein 0g. I hope it helps along with the info from others. In regards to bread...i actually have it 3 out of the 11 days. Way to go on your weight loss!!!! Ruth- Even with going off plan you didn't gain, that's excellent. I hope your next cycle goes smoothly. Have a great on plan day everyone. |
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Mishie New Member
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Well survived day 8 - JUST!!! Eating veges all day is THE most disgusting thing. Had to go to bed early just so that I wouldn't pig out on something different Can almost see the end of the first stint. Have already thought about my 3 days off, and am going to behave myself. No point in undoing all the hard work I've done by eating takeaways or something similar. Just going to stick to the water and the 4 meals and maybe throw a sandwich or something like that in. We are doing "Indian" on Saturday night so that will be nice, just have to limit the portions and not stuff myself silly like I have done the other times Thanks for the cool whip info everyone. Will now go hunt around the supermarket for something similar. Have a good day on plan everyone  |
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twstychik New Member
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Well, I give up... with this diet at least. I did my 11 days but it was so strict that I cheated... alot. I also did alot of substituting. I still managed to lose a few pounds but it's just too limiting for me. The lack of starch and sugar left me with really bad cravings for both. So, I think I'm gonna go back to WW which doesn't work as quickly but does work for me. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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twstychik, I am sorry to hear that. It sounds like you know what you're issues with this way of eating are and I do hope you find something to stick to. I am always reading up on different ideas (UltraMatabolism, Eat To Live, etc) and I find many commonalities in them. Peter even has a page on that on this site: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_diet.html It may help you. I find that I can combine most of these quite successfully. For example, if I count the points that I consume on FL4I, I bet I stay well within Weight Watchers. But as you say, it is more limiting. You could still chose to go by this way of eating (4 meals a day, 2.5 hours between meals, no snacking, exercise and drink your water) and you can chose foods from your point list. UltraMatabolism and ETL are both promoting natural healthy foods with low fat protiens and many fruit and vegitables and stearing clear of sugar, wheat, flour, salt, white rice, and white potatos. Food which have very low nutritional value in them. Again, WW is on the same page with this. I hope you find something to work for you and keep in touch! Dobie |
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Mishie New Member
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twstychik - are you sure? what foods are you cheating with? I've starting drinking diet coke when I get a sugar crave, certainly takes the edge off. Just finished my 11 days and have lost 3.1kg (6.8 lbs). I am really happy with that! For me, its finally a diet that has as much protein as I can eat (can't go wrong with that ) and I can hang out for the 12th day if I really need to have something different (eg a small amount of rice). We're going to an Indian restaurant tomorrow night with some friends, so I'll just have to be wise with my food choices and my alcohol. Has anyone noticed that they can only handle smaller portions now? Not too sure why that is, but I seem to get full quickly (well not full, but satisfied)So I spose I just monitor myself over the next 3 days and see what happens. I don't want to put on any weight! Should I stick loosely to the plan (ie no bread etc)? Does anyone have any ideas? |
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scotsgirl New Member
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I started on Monday the 15th I am on day 4 and this morning was down 5 pounds. Started at 195.5 down to 190.5 this a.m. Want to get to 150 but I look good at 160. I haven't started to excercise yet. Thought I would concentrate on the food this week and start next when my body is getting more use to it. I was doing the turbo jam in November and noticed a huge difference very quickly within a week. Just got some more turbo dvd's today to change things up when I start again. I am on the old plan but would love the new plan. Hate paying again though. I dont know if anyone would be interested in exchanging plans. I have seen that some people on the new plan would like to see the old. So was thinking that maybe if someone wants to exchange email addresses we could do up maybe 2 or 3 cycles and exchange them just copy and paste to a word document. Anyway if anyone is interested let me know. Dolbie thanks for the support. I turn 50 in July and have always been considered attractive but with this extra weight I seem to blend into the scenery. Not getting appreciative looks, and believe it or not when I am thinner people seem nicer they hold open doors and take more time talking to me. Could me the weight or maybe I am so sel conscious that I try to blend into the woodwork. Anyway have decided enough is enough by July I will be 150. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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Hi all, I have the old version bought it a few months back and started the diet on Monday Jan 15th on day 4 and down 5 pounds. started at 195.5 and this a.m. was 190.5. Want to get down to 150 but look good at 160. Think when I get down to 170 might start doing weight watchers easier to live with. As Dobie said think I will follow the FL4I theories but count points. I will be 50 in July. Would like to be at my weight by then. I find carrying the xtra weight difficult. I have been strugglin with it for about 3 years maybe a little more. I have an hour glass figure kind of lucky that way so when I am bigger it is proportioned. My hubby likes me at a higher weight that is just his preference not only on me but women in general not really big but heavier. He like my upper body proportions if you know what I mean. But he is always supportive when I am trying to loose and never judges when I am off dieting and eating too much. That is nice. Anyway probably told you way more info then you wanted. I was wondering if anyone who has the new program would consider trading info with me. Thought if anyone want the old version (I have seen people ask) I could copy and paste 3 or 4 cycles with different picks in a word document and they could do the same for me. If anyone is interested just respond here and we can find a way. I will be at my weight this July for my birthday. I have another 50 years to go and want to make sure I am healthy. Good luck all Dobie thanks for the help. |
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Mishie New Member
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Hi guys, I've just finished the 3 days off plan. Didn't go exactly the way I wanted it, had dinner out at an Indian restaurant with a few wines on both Friday and Saturday nights. Had cereal a couple of mornings and a wrap sandwich thingie one day. Put back on 1.1kg (2.4lbs) so I know I could have done better, but at least I know what things I have to cut back on for next time. How is everyone fairing up? Ruth how are you going - haven't heard from you for a while. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Mishie wrote: Hi guys, I've just finished the 3 days off plan. Didn't go exactly the way I wanted it, had dinner out at an Indian restaurant with a few wines on both Friday and Saturday nights. Had cereal a couple of mornings and a wrap sandwich thingie one day. Put back on 1.1kg (2.4lbs) so I know I could have done better, but at least I know what things I have to cut back on for next time. Don't worry about it. 2.4 is usually water weight and should come off in two or three days. I usually gain more that this. Trust me...it is not likely real weight. |
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twstychik New Member
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Mishie wrote: twstychik - are you sure? what foods are you cheating with? I've starting drinking diet coke when I get a sugar crave, certainly takes the edge off.Yup, I'm sure! I tried Diet Pepsi for the sweet tooth and it made me want more sugar and it made me thirsty. Plus, Aspartame is very bad for you and my body seems to know it. If I drink to omuch diet pop I end up very nauseaus and sometimes I get headaches from it too. I cheated on everything... I was craving bread and past and sugar. I just can't restrict myself that much. My plan is to go bach to WW where I can have these things in moderation. Plus, eating the same thing every other day gets boring and I tend to eat alot when I'm bored. So, I've at least learned how to control my eating so I don't gorge myself which is a great help in itself. I'm also gonna print off a few more menus incase I do change my mind later or need to lose some quick weight for any reason. |
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annelies New Member
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Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum, and I just started the FL4I diet, today was my first day! It went okay, but I had my last meal a few hours and I'm starving!!! I also have a terrible headache, is that normal? Does is get less? Thanks! Annelies |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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annelies wrote: Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum, and I just started the FL4I diet, today was my first day! It went okay, but I had my last meal a few hours and I'm starving!!! I also have a terrible headache, is that normal? Does is get less? Thanks! Annelies It did not happen to me, but it depends on your level of detox, I would guess. Hunger depends on your eating habits. Eat enough to last to the next meal and if you are hungry, realize you are likely losing weight while the hunger lasts. That helps me quite a bit! |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Hi All- I started my 2nd cycle today, i gained 2lbs on my off days which lasted 6 days bcos i had an awful cold. I would love to lose 5lbs during this cycle, i plan to be diligent as it paid off in my first cycle. Have a great on plan day everyone. Last edited on 23 January 2007 06:03 pm by Size10/12in2007 |
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Hey all! Well, I'm a newbie but have not posted to this part yet, so figured I'd put my 2 cents in. I started Jan 1 and lost 14lbs my first cycle. I only put back on 2 lbs during my cheat days, which I was worried about since I've seen how hard it is for some people. So far, I'm on Day 9 of my second cycle and I'm down 10 lbs from the beginning of this cycle, so 22 total since Jan 1. I'm excited with this diet. The biggest problem I've had so far is that some days I work 12 hours with a commute on top of that, so I've found it very hard to do the walking. That and it's around freezing and when I do walk, I get way to hot with a coat on. Has anyone found an alternative to walking that works for them or does anyone have a suggestion on how to keep walking during the winter months? Dobie threw out walking around the mall - however since I'm working usually 8-8 or so, it makes it hard to do. Just looking for suggestions of what you other busy people have found works for the working out part of the diet. Zandor Last edited on 24 January 2007 02:57 am by Zandor |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Hi all...I really want to start this diet, but I am still skeptical. Help!! I need honest feedback. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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So far it has worked for me. I am starting my last day and am down 8.5 pounds. I blew one day and was up 3 pounds so took me 3 days to take that off plus 1. I know I would have hit at least 10 pounds. I am on the old plan but was so curious about the new plan that I purchased that one too. There is a huge difference the new plan is much more protein almost more like Atkins. The old plan has days where you can have pasta, hamburgers or hotdogs and sandwiches. Now keep in mind my 11 day cycle had pasta 3 times and a burger with bun twice. I had the roast beef sandwich probably 4 times. Anyway I think it really works. It is only a one time fee of something like $39.00 so you may want to try it. The old plan gives you a list of 3 items to choose from 14 times then you hit the generator and it gives you the 11 days. The new plan has two columns of food you choose from at least 7-15 from each list and then you generate. The old diet will give you singular items like on one day you may have in any order, 1) egg omelet, 2) chicken, 3) hamburger 4) lean ground turkey. The new plan on each day the 4 meals ususally consist of 2 to 4 things and you can have just one or a combination of each, that is different. Hope that helps. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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TheQuietRioter wrote: Hi all...I really want to start this diet, but I am still skeptical. Ouch! If what is here is not honest, are you saying we are lying? Did you get good marks for playing with others when you grew up, because you are not scoring them here. What are you looking for? Before and after photos? The dirt of where this diet fails and we ahve struggled? Have you read our posts? Don't come in and question our integrity and then not set the bar for your expectations. Have some courtesy, okay? |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Dobie wrote: TheQuietRioter wrote:Hi all...I really want to start this diet, but I am still skeptical. Are you kidding me...It is an honest question...Sorry you feel the need to get offended. But, you have taken my post the wrong way. If I thought you were lying I would come out and say it. This is the newbie to the diet forum, right? Well, I am asking about it all. Your ups...Your downs? Everything. I am not questioning YOUR integrity. I am questioning the integrity of the diet ALONE. How is your digestive system doing on this? How is your immune system holding up? Do you have problems building muscle on this diet? Stuff like that I am curious about. This diet has really bad reviews all over the net. Mainly because the home site does not disclose the creater of this diet, and barely has any main contact information. This is the only website where I have actually found some real people posting about it recently. And, I do mean recently. Most of the blogs, chats...etc. Are dated only from 2005 on other forums. I had to dig thorugh 15 pages on Google before I found this one. I am almost ready to whip out my credit card and buy it today, but like I said, I am still a little skeptical. Thanks for your input. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I'm sure I did get defensive...It seemed when you asked for "honest" feedback that you were implying that our current and past comments were dishonest. I truly hope others will post their answers, but here is what I can share. My digetion is great and my wifes is actually much better. I have read some of Dr. Mark Wyman's theories and he believes the processed "#%@&!" we eat (white sugar, flour, processed foods, etc) really kill our digestion. My wife had some issues and they are gone now with our new way of eating. My immune system is the same, but my wifes, again, is better. Could be exercising more consistently or the fact that we weigh less...not sure. Muscle gain? Not sure...I do resistance training, but most has been aerobic to lose the flab. I am focusing on tone and building more now, so I can let you know as I go, but I can't say yet. Hope this helps! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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As to the downside, I can understand your concerns. I even read a post that makes this seem unrealistic:I am no doctor. Or nutritionist. Or personal trainer. Or anything that would have any authority on this subject, but anyway... And some have not been able to do this diet and left. But as to my wife and I, we have lost 100 lbs between us over 18 months with MANY breaks on holidays and vacations where we did yo yo. What I learned from this diet can fit into most other diets, as Peter says.
For me? I need the simplicity. Give me rules that I understand, and I will stick to them if they don't take too much effort. That is what I get with the diet generator from WL4I. |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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That doctor is right. Processed foods do contribute to a poor digestive system because they process the live enzymes right out of it. All the nutrients and building blocks of life....GONE. Enriched foods are the worse you could possibly eat. The refined carbs it produces and the lack of live enzymes kills the good digestive bacteria in your belly and colon...which contributes to cancers, constipation and excess mucus build up. It's sad. The American Diet is just sad. I was a 70% raw vegan for many years, until I recently became broke due to medical bills for my son. All my weight came back when I had to eat processed foods again that I could afford and unfortunately my allergies to these foods did as well. Now I am checking out this WL4I Diet, and I want to do it as organiclly as possible. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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I noticed on the MSN website that "experts" (whoever they are) are saying that zigzagging (their terminology) is the best way to lose weight. It is also my understanding that this is the theory used for the diet plan. Don't know if that helps but use it for what it is worth. I am down 8.5 pounds in 10 days with a bad cheat day in which I gained 3 and had to lose back which took me 3 days. So it is working for me. But I believe that all weightloss programs will work for different people. You have to find the one you can live with and follow it. As previously stated I would like to lose 40 pounds prior to my 50th birthday in July. I will use this plan for the first 25 or so and go to weight watchers which is less restrictive for the remainder and maintenance. My opinion only. Hope that helps. |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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I searched the "ZigZag" dieting term, and found a ton of stuff on it. Apparently, it's the secret that pro-body builders use. I am going to reserch it some more, and when I find a solid conclusion, I will post some links and other info, so we can all understand this eating method a little better. |
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annelies New Member
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Hi people! Today was day number 7 of my first cycle. I haven't lost ANY weight yet, actually it even feels like my pants are even tighter than before! I kept to the diet really strictly up until today. It was my fruit and veggie day but I went out to lunch with my brothers and had a HUGE pancake with goat cheeze and honey and walnuts. IT WAS SO GOOD! But now I feel really guilty and I feel like giving up. I drink lots of water and I ride my bicycle every day and walk some too, I think my body is just really resistant or something. I dont know what the problem is... I think I will just do the fruit and veggie day again tomorrow, and then finish the remaining 4 days, making the cycle actually 12 days. Do you guys think thats a good idea? Has anyone else not lost any weight? Thanks! Annelies |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Zig Zag dieting is also recommended by one of the books I recommend, Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle. It is also discussed a great deal in other forum post, I believe in the General Discussions forum. Peter |
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Brooke1211 New Member
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Hi everyone! I hope I can join, I just finished Day 1 and am so inspired by all your comments! I found it pretty easy although a little boring. I am 5'4 and weigh 160 lbs. Would love to get down to 125-130 lbs. but would settle for 150 lbs at this point. Tomorrow is fruit day, I cut up all my fruit and am ready to go. Quick question, when is everyone eating their sandwich? I'm trying to figure out the best time to eat it so I don't die of hunger! Thanks! Brooke Last edited on 29 January 2007 04:48 pm by Brooke1211 |
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Tonia80 New Member
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Hello All, For the past couple of days I have been reading the fat loss 4 idiots. I tried to join today but it wouldn't let me. Anybody with any advice will be great. I really want to get started on this program. Thank You |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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I have one last quick question, and it pertains to the website of WL4I. This morning, I went to the site to purchase the program, but in the purchase details it said I was only getting the handbook. It did not say anything about the diet generator that creates the daily menus for me (which I want). Is this automatically included, or is this something I have to purchase seperate? Last edited on 30 January 2007 06:11 pm by TheQuietRioter |
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victorialeigh3 New Member 
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Hi all... I started yesterday and am very excited!! I only have between 5-10lbs to lose but I think this will help. Today is my fruit day and so this morning I had grapes, strawberry's, apples, blackberry's.... I cooked them in a tiny bit of water and a smidge of splenda till they were hot and soft then I dabbled on some fat free/calorie free/carb free choc syrup from walden farms and a teaspoon cool whip. OH MY GOD it was delicicious!!!! I cannot wait for my stemed pears later!! Wish me luck, this seems to good to be true! |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Hi VictoriaLeigh3... That's awesome that you started. I am trying too myself, but still am gathering questions and answers about the website for WL4I at the moment. I am commenting because I noticed you are using Splenda. I will strongly discourage you from using artificial sweeteners, and substitute with Stevia or raw, organic honey instead. I know Splenda claims that "It is made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar." This may be true to a point, however; Splenda does start from sugar then chlorine molecules are added to it creating a chemical substance similar to the pesticide DDT. The human body cannot always process artificial sweeteners and they cause havoc on your insulin levels and even your immune system and thyroid function. From the research I have gathered about Splenda (Sucralose), the side effects are worse for women than men. It has also been proven in University studies, that it causes the ovaries to shrink and pregnancy complications. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Brooke1211 wrote: Quick question, when is everyone eating their sandwich? I'm trying to figure out the best time to eat it so I don't die of hunger! Brooke, Honestly, there is not a known definate time. It works better for different people. We like our sandwich at dinner because it is a fun meal (family) and we can enjoy it together and it breaks up the other meals. The best method is pick one and fine what helps you. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Tonia80 wrote: For the past couple of days I have been reading the fat loss 4 idiots. I tried to join today but it wouldn't let me. Anybody with any advice will be great. I really want to get started on this program. There are several links for help, but I don't know why you can't. Please tell me if you can, what went wrong? |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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TheQuietRioter wrote: This morning, I went to the site to purchase the program, but in the purchase details it said I was only getting the handbook. It has changed since I joined, but my other brothers joined recently, so I will pick their brains. |
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victorialeigh3 New Member
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Hi quietrioter, I have been using Splenda since 2002 (I think?).... I have had no problems but I do know some people react to it badly (a good friend of mine can't touch it). I use it in my coffee every day - maybe a teaspoon full. But thank you for the information, I am going to investigate it further. I figure I dont touch salt so I may as well have one vice right? LOL Can anyone give me any ideas to spruce up fruit and sandwich day? I will be eating my sandwich for dinner and I get to have whatever kind of sandwich I want... that leaves me with the dilema of do I eat PB&J or turkey or what? And what about good fruit options? Thanks in advance! |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Victorialeigh... I like to put wheat germ on my fruits and berries. It's loaded with those good B vitamins, folic acid, proteins and Omega 3 fatty acids. I also like raw honey on my strawberries and melons. As for sandwich's I like alfalfa spouts and avacado slices with a dash of lemon pepper. As for salt...We do need it, but regular table salt that is iodized is not good for us. It's toxic to our system. Try opting for Celtic Sea Salts or Kosher sea salt. The Hain brand is really good and inexpensive. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Dobie wrote: TheQuietRioter wrote: My brother joined and for $39 he got both...there were not any other options so if you are signing up, you should get the generator. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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victorialeigh3 wrote: Can anyone give me any ideas to spruce up fruit and sandwich day? I will be eating my sandwich for dinner and I get to have whatever kind of sandwich I want... that leaves me with the dilema of do I eat PB&J or turkey or what? And what about good fruit options? I like the fruit salad. If you need to, some have put fruit in sugar free gelatin and it gives a good psychological boost. For sandwich, it is as you said, what works for you. Since it says a deli meat, I would stear clear of PBJ, but I add the lettuce, tomato, onion, a bit of basil, and pickles (they are so low in calories, they never hurt me.) It is a low calorie day, so enjoy a good sized sandwich if you wish. It was the high point of my meals. Dobie |
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victorialeigh3 New Member
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thank you all so much!! I am so excited about this and will post often!! |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Ok everyone...I bought the program last night, and I have my menu generated. I am starting Monday the 5th, and I cannot wait. Thank you all for being so helpful with your information. I am absolutely thrilled to get the ball rolling with this, so thrilled I blogged about it on Myspace page. |
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ashleyblue31 New Member
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Hi Everyone...newbie here! Congrats to everyone on their weight loss success. I have a few questions about this program before I purchase it. I know that the website claims you can lose 9lbs. in 11 days but how much of that is water weight? Do you actually see that weight loss reflected in the clothes that you wear? When you look in the mirror can you see that you lost that weight. Better yet, can others see it without you saying that you lost the weight?! I am really anxious to start this program! I just don't want to have false hopes. I want to be able to know that I lost weight by my tight pants being loose on me! Off topic: I am also in a Biggest Loser Competition at work and it is based on FAT loss and nothing else...$800 is up for grabs! Thanks for your advice in advance ! |
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victorialeigh3 New Member
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can anyone tell me what kind of cheese they are eating for the sliced cheese meals? I had fish and sliced cheese tonight (weird combo) and had 2 slices of muenster but it has kind of a lot of fat in it..... thanks!! |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Hi All- I got really distracted .Three weeks ago, I lost 6lbs by the 7th day of my 1st cycle and then struggled with a cold through the next week. Last week, i began my 2nd cycle with a 2lbs gain and started to cheat in the 1st day, i quickly began to gain all the weight that i had lost as i was seriously overeating. I am disappointed that in the 4 months of trying to lose weight, i have only lost 12lbs and really just spent all this time yoyoing. I'm on day 5 and doing good, i will post my loss on day 12. I was hoping to lose 5lbs on this cycle, i'll just have to be patient and see how i do. Congrats to everyone staying on track and if you are struggling don't give up. Last edited on 2 February 2007 03:58 am by Size10/12in2007 |
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annelies New Member
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This is the morning of my 12th day, after having completed my first cycle. I weighed myself. I knew it wouldnt be a lot because my pants did not fit looser. I have stayed exactly the same weight!!! I am so mad! I have kept to the diet so well, didnt do the walking, but even without the walking I should have lost a little bit right? I am 5'10 (178 cm) and weigh 141 pounds (64 kg). I know that is a really good BMI and statistically I should not be trying to lose weight. I am pretty slim all over but I have some problem areas (butt, thighs) where I am fat and its just not in proportion with the rest of my body. This is genetic and might just be how I am built and there might not be anything I can do about it. But if its fat, I should have lost some of it, right? I am trying to decide whether I should try another cycle or just starve myself again or get liposuction. Any thoughts? |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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annelies, Last edited on 2 February 2007 04:21 pm by Size10/12in2007 |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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ashleyblue31 wrote: I know that the website claims you can lose 9lbs. in 11 days but how much of that is water weight? I am not sure. How does one know? I am sure that some of it has to be water since my weight seems to bounce up and down as I go on and off cycles. i can gain 7 lbs in a "cheat weekend" and I have never understood it, but then it comes back off. Seems like that has to be water weight. However, my wife has gone from a near 14 to a size 2/4 (depending on what it is, I guess...you women will understand I'm sure) and I have gone from near 42" pants to 34" and from XL and some XXL to M shirts. I wear a jacket that she used to wear that is too big for her and now fits me fine. So it clearly is not all water weight. |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Anne... You and I are the same height, and I wish I was a 140lbs again. Maybe your body won't let you loose that weight because genetically that's where you should be. Cardio about 2 hours a day should help you with the problem areas, but don't starve yourself. Your system will go into panic mode and start storing more fat no matter what you put into it. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Better yet, can others see it without you saying that you lost the weight?! Oh, most definately. I had a coworker who I had not seen much over the past year say she barely recognized me from the loss of weight. I have had people commenting for over a year and even as recently as yesterday a lady came over to our house and told my wife, "You guys have really done great with your...I hate to call it a diet since it seems to be a change in life style. You both look really great". We see her all the time so this was just a kind word and not a suprise to her. Best of luck on your decision. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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victorialeigh3 wrote: can anyone tell me what kind of cheese they are eating for the sliced cheese meals? I had fish and sliced cheese tonight (weird combo) and had 2 slices of muenster but it has kind of a lot of fat in it..... Yes, I never was comfortable with the cheese since I ate probably too much of it. I LOVE cheese and would be interested too, in hearing how others successfully navigate it as a meal choice. Anyone....Anyone....Beuhler...Beuhler... |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Size10/12in2007 wrote: I got really distracted I do that too and it helps motivate me. There is still somehting that my body does not like about the way I want to eat and when I don't follow this way of eating, weight goes on. I still believe some of it is that your body has a memory. It wants to stay a certain weight and if you don't let it get FIRMLY used to your new loss, it will try and revert back. I have plateued several times over my loss and am at that point again. Sometimes eating more shakes it up and I lose, but other times I find areas where I cheated (like today) and it reminds me as I get closer to my ideal weight, I have to really put it into overdrive to lose that weight. |
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TheQuietRioter New Member
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Mmmmm....Cheese. Well, if you have to eat it on your menu selection, here is my thoughts from my experience with a 3 year 70% Raw Vegan diet. So, here I go again raving about eating organic and raw....LOL If you have a really good Health Market near yoou like Wild Oats or Green Acres you will find an abundent selection of the best cheeses you have ever tasted. That means certified 100% organic cheese that comes from cows raised naturally on an entirely grass-fed diet. It makes all the difference in the world in fighting and preventing illness, increasing your energy, and prolonging your life. Raw (unpasteurized) milk cheeses is loaded with Omega-3's. In terms of nutrition, the difference between organic grass-fed cheese and the cheese from grain-fed cows you find in most stores and restaurants is as opposite as two different forms of the same food gets. I strongly urge you to avoid grain-fed cheese, while I highly recommend grass-fed. Though cows are naturally grass-feeding animals, 85-95% of dairy cows are raised in confinement on a diet of grain, particularly corn, because it is far more cost-efficient for agribusiness. Because this grain-based diet is highly abnormal and disruptive, it changes the ph in cows. This sets up an environment and terrain in the cow for many abnormal physiological conditions in the cow which can increase the need for the use antibiotics. Further, to promote faster growth and more excessive milk production, many of these dairy cows are fed a variety growth hormones. All of this makes for the severely unhealthy dairy products that you'll find on virtually all grocery store shelves. Cheese from grain-fed cows is very high in the omega-6 fats that most people get far too much of and leads to a variety of diseases. Meanwhile, it is quite low in the omega-3 that most people are dangerously deficient in. It is also very low in "conjugated linoleic acid," or CLA, that is a potent cancer fighter people need. Grass-fed cheese, on the other hand, is one of the few foods that contains a perfect balance of omega-3 and omega-6 fats, a ratio ideal for your health, loaded with CLA's. (I love Colby and Pepper Jack cheeses. Pepperjack is especially yummy on turkey.) Last edited on 2 February 2007 06:42 pm by TheQuietRioter |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Hi All-- I hope everyone is doing great on the plan. It feels very quiet on the thread, please post so we can all be an encouragement to one another. Update: I'm on day 11 and i would be posting my results tomorrow, i hope that i would be losing additional weight in my next cycle and not continue losing and gaining the same 12-13lbs as i've done in the last 5 months. Have a great on plan day everyone. |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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I have now completed my 11 days and i have lost 5lbs. I plan not to overeat on my cheat days and begin another cycle on Sunday. I hope to lose 4lbs in my next cycle, i'll keep everyone updated. Have a great on plan day everyone. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I know, it gets quiet at times. I know how you feel about being excited and wanting to discuss, but the traffic here is transient. I have really been focusing on keeping my lean tissues and losing only fat. Since I am withing about 15 lbs of my goal, it seems time to really get a focus on that. |
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victorialeigh3 New Member
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it does get quiet here huh?? ok so I just noticed that my menu contains NO pasta, hot dog, hamburger, bread(other than on sandwich)... ground turkey, spagetti sauce.... Why do some people get these things and I dont have the option? |
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The items you listed; spag. sauce, hamburger, ect. are on the old version of the diet. They have started a newer version that includes different foods and to my understanding not as many carbs as the old version. You must have the new version. I have the old one as I've done the diet off and on(mostly off but on now) for some time. Today is my 3rd day on cycle as I was just feeling fat and need a boost. Overall I'd like to lose about 20 lbs. but will start with 10. I usually can't stick with the diet too long as I get too hungry for other things. However after about 4-5 days it is easier than the first few. I also love sweets which makes it hard for me to stick too. But this time I'm going to try to do a couple cycles to see what happens. Last time that I did a full cycle I lost 5 or 6 lbs. and only put on a few back. Good luck to you with the diet. What foods were on your plan? |
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victorialeigh3 New Member
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My menu consists of fruits, veggies, eggs, sliced cheese, sanwiches only once!, oatmeal, cottage cheese, shrimp, flounder, tuna, beans. I am a pretty healthy eater, only needed to drop around 7 lbs but there are NO carbs on my plan except for the sandwich. Seems very odd... I could of done no carb without paying! |
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I start Sunday! Will be difficult since I work two jobs. Good luck all. |
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yohkos New Member
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One more thing, where do we get the old version. I use to be able to get to it, but now can only find the new version. |
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xndrex New Member
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Hello everyone! Im new to this so please bare with me . O.K. ,here goes.......I just purchased the "WL4I" program and plan to start tomorrow after i go out and buy the stuff needed.I have read many of your postings over the last year and decided to sign up here aswell to associate with others who are trying to accomplish the same task(the shedding of lbs. ) .I see that many of you have had some great results from the diet aswell as some not so good ones .I decided to give it a try none the less .I am a 34 yr. old woman with an 11 year old daughter and huband for 3 yrs.I have always struggled with my weight and have tried many different dieting techniques over the years .I was pretty active in my twentys therefore being able to keep my weight pretty decent , but now ,things have changed .Ive been able to carry my weight well but have noticed that my health is not the best and my bones are starting to feel it aswell as other pains in my body - the reason for me to ,once again ,try another diet(WL4I) .I weigh today 209 lbs. . My ideal weight is 143 .My plan is to be 60 lbs. less by July 1st .That gives me 4 and a half months-18 weeks .Thats atleast 3.3 lbs. a week for the next4 and a half months .This will be quite the journey .I am hoping I will be able to get it off sooner so I can live a more normal yet disciplined eating plan .I love the idea of bacon and eggs for breakfast and having nuts for lunch or supper , but what I see is that every time you go to generate a new diet ,it just takes the same foods you chose and changes them around a bit .I have heard about the new "WL4I" program has items like hamburgers on occasional days or a carb .Is this true?I am hoping that after getting 20 lbs. off in 25 days being , march 8th( if this is possible following this diet) ,I might be able to get ahold of the new WL4I program that can start to have other choices ,or try to find substitutes for the foods I am eating .Plus i dont think in the long run that eating bacon and eggs 7 or 8 times in 11 days is really good for the cholesterol . I am all carbs and sweet deserts type of person and what I eat goes straight to the middle mostly .I hope someone who can identify with any of this will share some valuable points or their thoughts with me on any of this . I am very happy to have come to this place and have met you all and been inspired by your stories .If any of you have any weight loss tips or progress reports please let me know and of course about substituting foods or new WL4I diet .Thanks and good luck to you all . Xndrex. |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Hi All-- I'm also using the old version and i enjoy it very much. This is day 1 for me, yesterday i committed to lose lbs for cash for fundraising at my church. I want to give it my best and its for 12 weeks.....to lose 20lbs would be fantastic. Have a great on plan day everyone. |
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victorialeigh3 New Member
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hi there! Good luck to you and congratulations! The old version of the plan has the pasta and hamburger and hot dog. The new one does not. I was a bit dissapointed as there are literally NO carbs on my diet. Just one sandwich in 11 days. So it will be tough. But I am going to try!! If you find out how to get the old version can you post it? thank! Vicky |
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xndrex New Member
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Hi Victoria and all! Thanks for getting back.I just punched in "weight loss for idiots" and automatically I was directed to the program download .When I signed up , I checked out the handbook and rules ,then went to the generator to pick my favorite foods from the list of foods they gave me .There was no option for hotdogs or hamburgers on it , just nuts , fruit ,chicken or fish , deli meat , turkey and cottage cheese .Its mostly fruits and veggies and bit of turkey or chicken through the day at one meal , but bacon or sausage and eggs every morning almost .No potatoes .The only really good thing about it is the bacon and eggs and the deli sandwich and nuts and cheese on some days ,but definately no hot dogs or hamburgers .I dont know if I was directed to an older version or what as i see that others have followed a newer version allowing them to have the occasional hotdog or hambuger .I wondered if that is a newer version , as I never saw anything like that b4 .Anyways ,I am going to do the one I have but hope to hear more about this other one aswell as substituting foods and how to get it .If you have any idea about it please let me know .Thanks....... Xndrex. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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victorialeigh3 wrote: there are NO carbs on my plan except for the sandwich. fruits, veggies, oatmeal, and beans are all carbs. not allowed on Atkins except in small amounts. Everythign in the right column when you generate are carbs and the left is protien. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Size10/12in2007 wrote: I'm also using the old version and i enjoy it very much. This is day 1 for me, yesterday i committed to lose lbs for cash for fundraising at my church. I want to give it my best and its for 12 weeks.....to lose 20lbs would be fantastic. Best of luck! I will say a prayer for you! |
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elsie New Member
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Dobie, I was wondering if you've had both the new and the old version of WL4I and if so which you like better? Also do you ever get cravings for sweets like chocolate? And if so, do you indulge-or at least have a taste and does it affect your cravings-or Anyone else? Thanks ,Elsie |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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elsie wrote: Dobie, I was wondering if you've had both the new and the old version of WL4I and if so which you like better? Also do you ever get cravings for sweets like chocolate? And if so, do you indulge-or at least have a taste and does it affect your cravings Two big questions:
I am a child of the 80s. I like them and the fashions and memories are dear to me. So what, you ask? I like what is comfortable to me. I started with the old one so I like it. It is where I had my success. As I read through "Burn the Fat and Feed the Muscle", I realize that it has concepts that are the back bone for both diets. I lost more on the old diet than the one time that I tried the new diet, but I can't say that the variety of foods didn't have me eating too much. Since I was not counting calories, I can't say why I did not lose weight, but I spent the two weeks on the new cycle ONLY burning off what I gained on my cheat weekend. It was disappointing so I went back. However, many here are successful on the new and I see how it aligns so both can work. 2. Chocolate cravings. If having a piece of chocolate keeps you on the diet, you have to do what you have to do. However, sugar is a drug. <soapbox>When you eat simple sugars, your blood sugar spikes. This causes insulin to spike. In a normally functioning person, this will make you want to have more sugar to counter act the insullin that is slightly behind it. This is how God designed our bodies. Back when Moses was wondering through the desert, if one had berries, the body would want more. Ever have a bite of something and all the suddent say, "Wow! I did not realize how hungry I was!" That is insulin kicking in and you gorge. Why? The fat person (explorer, pilgram, settler, etc.) survives the winter on the stores. Jump ahead to the 21st century and our bodies are the same, but our life styles are very different! Now, that is a normal person. Those of us who are overweight have a high propensity for being insulin resistant. This is bad! Same scenario where you eat sugar, insulin spikes to bring it down. It does not (since you resist it) so it creates MORE insulin which makes you crave more! It is adictive and not healthy.</soapbox> But if you can control it, have a bit with one of your carb meals and it will not prevent weight loss if you are not adding significant calories (<50 is ideal). Just my opinon. Dobie |
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Size10/12in2007 New Member
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Thanks Dobie, I need all the prayers i can get. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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I have the old and the new, was so nosey I purchased the new. Very different. Starting my cycle with the new. I do like the carbs on the old and I did lose weight when I stick to it. Which I did for 5 days lost 9 pounds and cheated and went psycho. I got tired of the chicken and tuna so decided I would try this one. Might alternate. Anyway I am sure both plans work. I always lose quickly but gain back quicker. I will keep you guys udpated. Today is my second day and fruit day with one sandwich. I am hungry but it is only one day. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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Well survived my fruit day with one sandwich. Hubby made roastbeef, mashed potatoes, buttered corn and garlic bread for him and the boys last night. Thought I was going to break but held steady. Starting my 3rd day and down 5 pounds. Gee only another 40 to go..lol I think I will switch back and forth from old to new plan. Definetly missing the hamburger and pasta from the old version. But I like the cashews and peanuts on this plan. Well just wanted to give an update. Good luck all. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Please do keep us informed on your progress. Also, do you know there is a place you can keep an entire diary of your activities if you like? http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum31/ Just FYI in case you like that idea. Dobie. |
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Tonia80 New Member
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Hello All, I just started this diet 11 days ago. And I just can't believe that I lost an amazing 12 pounds. I'm starting my 3 cheat days tommorrow but I am so scared that I might gain a whole lot of it back. I need help getting through this so if there is any one with any advice please HELP? |
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elsie New Member
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Dobie, Thanks much for the great answers to my two questions! I'm a little older however I too love the 80's as my kid's were 80's children. So many good memories-music and big hair! The soapbox info on chocolate is very practical and useful! Tonia80, My Dad used to say years ago if you watch what you eat your stomach will eventually shrink and you wont need to eat as much. I don't know if that is really true but I think after you've been careful about eating on the days one thru eleven, on cheat day's you naturally won't feel like eating as much and if you listen to your stomach saying I'm not really too hungry, instead of your mind saying I should eat everything since this is my cheat time, you should be ok. If your stomach does say feed me -moderation is key, as they say. Good luck and enjoy the benefits of your loss!Elsie |
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Tonia80 New Member
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Thanks Elsie for your words of encouragement. It will help me alot to get through this weekend. I thought this diet was going to be hard for me but it is so easy. I think I can now make it through the weekend. Thanks Alot Tonia80 |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Tonia,
If you blow it, DON'T STRESS! My first cycle ever I lost 13 or so. Then I cheated like crazy (NOT doing the above) and put it ALL back on. It took the next cycle to get it back off, but then I kept it off. Dobie. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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Hi all, well I am finishing day 5 and am down 6 pounds. I am still motivate and that is good. I am going to start excercising. I figured I would lose the most on the first few days. I also figured that as the 11 days go on my weight loss would slow so figured I would do the first 5 or 6 days without excercising. Not sure if it will make a difference but thought it might. I know that my veggie day is coming up and I have seen on this site some sort of chili recipe. If anyone knows it I would really appreciate it being posted again. Do need some help...my boss is in town next Wednesday and he is taking the managers out. They have decided on an Indian restaurant, I have never had Indian food and don't like curry. It will be my 10th day. On that day I have scheduled 1) shrimp & sausage, 2) scrambled eggs and bacon, 3) yogurt and bowl of pinto beans, 4) peanuts and cashews. Any suggestions as to what I should do to maximize my weight loss and reduce the damage. Would appreciate it thank you. |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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scotsgirl wrote: I have seen on this site some sort of chili recipe. It is in Fat Loss 4 Idiots - Recipes |
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scotsgirl New Member
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Dobie, I really like your posts. You seem to have been doing this for a long time with great success. I posted this before but thought I would place a special post to you as you seem to have great success. Do need some help...my boss is in town next Wednesday and he is taking the managers out. They have decided on an Indian restaurant, I have never had Indian food and don't like curry. It will be my 10th day. On that day I have scheduled 1) shrimp & sausage, 2) scrambled eggs and bacon, 3) yogurt and bowl of pinto beans, 4) peanuts and cashews. Also can you tell me a little more about the burn the fat feed the muscle. I went on the link but wanted a sumarized version. Thanks alot really appreciating all your help. |
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scotsgirl New Member
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Hi all, well this is day 6 of the "new diet" and I am down 6.5 pounds. This is much lower then when I was on the old version. So once I have finished this cycle I am going to go back to the old version. Just wanted to give you my experience. Thanks |
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scotsgirl New Member
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Seems like I am the only one on the boards. Quick question my veggie day is tomorrow noticed that the veggie chili has lots of different beans the diet only shows pinto. Can you guys give me some feedback on that? Thanks |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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I'm not on this diet, but my beans/peas (with the exception of garden and marrowfat peas) have very similiar nutrition (calories per 100g, calories from protein, calories from carbs etc.) so if pinto beans are fine, the other beans must be fine as well. |
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Tonia80 New Member
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Thanks Dobie for the advise. It seemed as though the cheat days was as hard for me as my diet days. I tried to make sure I did 4 meals but I only could do 3. I gained 3 pounds back for the 12 I lost. So I guess that came from eating out for dinner for my 3 cheat days. Now I am back into the next cycle of the routine. Fruit day is today . So I'm hoping it will go better than the last one . Have a good day Tonia80 |
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missymoo New Member
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HI I want to start this diet,,,but I need to have a coffee a day, and thats with 4 creams in it, will this totally derail the diet. I dont know how I can go without that coffee, and black is out of the ???? HELP |
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canddsma New Member
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Hi everyone. Just found this forum today so I hope it's OK for me to launch right on in! I've been reading all the posts in this topic and a few people have disappeared off - hopefully because they're busy getting on with their lives and not because they've had a bad few days! I started on Saturday (newer version) and couldn't resist weighing myself after only two days - five pounds off. Yahoo! I know a lot of this could be water but who cares, eh? I deliberately only chose the lower fat choices, figuring that if I leave off nuts and cheese, that should help me lose all the quicker. Maybe not, but I'll try.So, I'd really like to have a regular thing going on here to help our encouragement levels. Keep up the good work everyone. It will all be worth it when we feel fit and healthy and wear what we want. Last edited on 26 February 2007 07:52 pm by canddsma |
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luli New Member
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Hi i'm also new to the site. I've been on the diet since 9th January and lost one stone (14lbs) so far and I have been eating nuts and cheese. I've found the diet really effective, even when I've cheated a little bit, so I would really encourage you to stick at it. I've also found that doing some light exercise really helps. I'd like to hear how you get on. |
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Tonia80 New Member
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Hello Canddsma, Welcome... I am now on my 2nd cycle and I am down 12 pounds with 35 more to go. Five pounds is really good for a couple of days. Keep up the good work. |
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canddsma New Member
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That's brilliant Tonia80 - very encouraging! I'm going to stay off the scales for a few days if I can, so will report back by the weekend. Hope to be reading more success stories in the meantime though! [First Cycle, Day 4] |
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canddsma New Member
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luli wrote: Hi i'm also new to the site. I've been on the diet since 9th January and lost one stone (14lbs) so far and I have been eating nuts and cheese. I've found the diet really effective, even when I've cheated a little bit, so I would really encourage you to stick at it. I've also found that doing some light exercise really helps. I'd like to hear how you get on.That's great Luli, a whole stone! Can't wait to get to that point myself. I've got beans and cottage cheese today - mm-mmmmm. |
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luli New Member
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Well, I have reached the end of my fourth cycle. Days off start tomorrow. Feeling a bit disheartened as I weigh the same as I did at the end of my last cycle. The reason for it is during my last three days off I was pretty bad and put on 4lbs. I have lost them all again but not lost anymore. It really puts you off, especially as I have been doing more exercise than i have before. I'm now a bit nervous about having the days off in case the same thing happens again and I get stuck in a rut. Goint to try to be not as bad but going to a wedding on saturday and my mum is visting and she will insist on feeding me! Sorry for the moan! Hope everyone is doing/feeling better about it all. Have a nice weekend. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Moans are all good! That's what we are here for! At least in moderation. I understand your frustration. I have been there too. All I can tell you is that to lose weight, a constant effort is needed. Cheat days mean relaxing and choosing your own foods, but you still have to choose the right foods and eat in moderation. the idea in your mind needs to be only relaxing and eating cereal, or bread, or things like that, but stay to the four meals and drink your water! You cannot (as I have done) eat ColdStone Ice cream after one of your meals. You shouldn't make it a meal unless you really set it up carefully. What I think you would have to do to make that work is:
Hope this helps, Dobie |
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didi922 New Member
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hey guys!!! I am on day 7 on FL4I and im already down 11 lbs. I dont know how this works.. but it does!! Im just hoping I wont gain it all back on my cheat days. Just a week ago I was looking around these forum sceptically saying that I would never loose that much weight in a week... and I did!! I have about 25-30 lbs to get to my goal. I did have one question.. when the plan refers to sausage links... does that mean breakfast or dinner sausage?? It didnt specify and I didnt wanna jack up the plan lol.. Also does anyone have any advice on maintaining the weight loss after the diet??? I think I should incorporate excercise after the diet to shock my body a little bit.. because I have lost the weight without any exercising... besides normal walking around everyday... but I am drinking 10-12 glasses of water a day and eating the foods as plain as possible. I made my boyfriend chicken parm the other night and so I substituted a small piece for my last meal which I shouldnt have done but the scale hasnt changed in the last few days.. so whew!! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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What I recommend is figuring out how you are going to eat for your maintenance and move toward that the closer you get. Keep eating four (or five, or even six) meals a day. Drink your water, exercise, stop when you are staisfied. This is a way of eating and can be the maintenance. If you "go off this" and do not do something different than you did before, you will gain right back. So watch your calories. Counting calories is not a lifestyle...it is an education toward a means. Learn what you need to eat to maintain and you won't have to follow these diet plans for the rest of your life. You will eat these foods and hopefully keep on healthy meals, but you will have more flexibility as you maintain for life. |
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reavesst New Member
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Hello, I have just downloaded the diet and plan on started it tomorrow. Wish me luck. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Good luck! |
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RobynC New Member
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Hi Everyone! After millions of diets, millions of attempts to lose weight- I am on the fruit day. I like the foods I am eating and I am not hungry- even though it is only day 2. Does anyone besides me have a considerable amount of weight to lose? I have seen people on this site talking about 15 or 20 pounds to lose. How about a LOT of weight to lose? |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I lost 50 pounds and have 20 or so to go, but I have not really been trying too hard. Now I am back focused, but I am still slipping up on some bad habits (eating out on Wed night and Sat morning) that I need to get rid of. My brother has about 100 and is almost a third of the way all just this year. So yes, many of us have a whole lot more than 20 to lose. |
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Theatregirl14 New Member
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Hi everybody. I'm new to this diet - just started today. In the past, I've set short term goals for myself that have been way too hard to achieve, and then I've gotten discouraged. My current goal is to try to lose 60 pounds by Christmas. I'm going to the beach, and I want to look good - for the first time. Do you think this diet will help me to succeed with my goal? Any advice and encouragement would be appreciated! Thanks! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Theatregirl14 wrote: Hi everybody. I'm new to this diet - just started today. In the past, I've set short term goals for myself that have been way too hard to achieve, and then I've gotten discouraged. My current goal is to try to lose 60 pounds by Christmas. I'm going to the beach, and I want to look good - for the first time. Do you think this diet will help me to succeed with my goal? Any advice and encouragement would be appreciated! Thanks! Sure you can do it. That is less than 2 lbs a week which is aggressive but doable! Just be sure to follow all the rules and keep your goal in mind! |
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Teena New Member
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Hi everyone, Just started this diet yesterday. I am finding it very hard. Maybe because I'm a picky eater. Today is my fruit and 1 sandwich day. I am starving. I am wondering if pinapple is allowed today. I am trying so hard to stick to this but its hard being a mother of 2 and having to cook for them. But reading the forum gives me the extra push to try to succeed. Thanks everyone keep posting! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Hang in there, Teena. it is hard at first. Your body is used to eating very differently and it is sometimes hard to wait the time it takes for it to readjust. But you can do it! Drink your water and if you like them some diet drinks. Then after 2.5 hours, eat again and this time, eat alot more. You see, you probably need to have 300-400 calories per meal. So this can be 6-8 medium apples (rediculous, I know) or two bananas and two apples (300 calories depending on the sizes). The key is to eat fibrous fruits to give your body somehting to work on for the calories such as apples, oranges, pears, and strawberries all have about 2g fiber for 50 calories of fruit. So 300 calories is 12 g fiber and you should not feel as hungry. Be sure you eat enough! You can do it. By day five, I was hardly ever hungry and when it was, I realized that it was my body saying, "Hmmm, for once you have not stuffed me to where I never need food so I guess I have to start burning my precious fat stores." |
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Teena New Member
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Thanks Dobie, It's nice to know that there are people out there that I can talk to for support. I actually cheated last night at a party, but today I'm right back on it. I feel horrible about it. Am I allowed to eat bananas and fresh pinapple I wonder?? I have about 25-30 pounds to lose. Day 2 I weighed myself and it actually said I gained a half pound. Today is day 3 and even though I wanna quit cause I feel like I'm not gonna lose anything, I'm gonna keep going. Its only 11 days right. Thanks for your support!!! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Teena, As with anything, you have to give it time to work, but I am surprised. If you would care to, please list your activities (high level) and what foods you each and any snacks, gum, candy, etc that you may be eating as well. The only person I know directly that this has not worked for had children and would often eat food while fixing theirs and really not think about it. But that gives your body more insulin out of turn and can slow down/prevent weight loss for me. I believe one of the keys of success is to eat at meals but not to continueally eat. This allows the insulin/glucagen cycle to run its course so I am wondering if you have anything going on that might break that cycle. Hope things are going well or that you let us examine what's happening with you. Dobie |
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Teena New Member
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Hi Dobie, I have been following the diet very strictly after following off the wagon a little on day 2. The only thing I've been eating is what is on my menu for that day. Nothing more nothing less. My excersise level is moderate. I'm a nurse and am running all day long. When I get home I get to chase my kids. I am very careful not to taste or sample what I make the kids for dinner. I have chewed sugar free gum once or twice when I felt hungry and it wasnt time to eat yet. I am trying so hard but I'm at the point now if I eat chicken one more time... But this is day 6 so 5 days more. I think I can hold out. Let me know what you think |
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JulesG New Member
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Hi Teena I am on phase 4 of this eating plan, and I must admit the first couple of phases, I felt the same about Chicken( Google search for ways to eat/cook chicken came in VERY handy) Depending on your choices, where there is chicken on your list, there should also be another choice( for me it is generally cottage cheese, or hard boiled eggs), but i think generally to start with ALL you see is CHICKEN. I now alterate with the other choice and serve it with home made salsa( chopped tomatoes, small onion, celantro( corriander here in the UK) and the juice of a fresh lime to taste. This has taken away the 'fed up with Chicken' feeling for me. Also, I googled the calorie/carb/fat value of all meat, and found that there are other meats with similar values to Chicken,( lean pork, venision,lean duck breast, turkey etc) so sometimes I used those instead. Hope this helps. Jules |
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Teena New Member
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Hi Jules, Thanks I will "google" some other ways to eat chicken. Wow phase 4! How much weight have you lost so far if you don't mind me asking? I'm now on day 7 and keep telling myself 4 days left till I get my "free" days. Its going to be hard not pigging out but I hope when I see my my results that will make me eat sensible until I start phase 2. There are days when I'm like "I can't do this anymore" but then I'm always able to talk myself into sticking with it because I really want to lose weight!! Are you doing the first weight loss for idiots or the newer version fat loss 4 idiots? Thanks for the support and keep me posted on how your progress is. |
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quilterlady New Member
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Well today is my first day and its a big change for me. I was on atkins for two months and I could eat all the meat I wanted Now I have to eat enough to be satisfied but not full. I know what it feels like to be full but I don< know when to quit when my body has had enough. Theres no feeling for that. Any suggestion? |
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Teena New Member
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Quilterlady, Hi. I generally eat until the hunger is gone. It was really hard at first but but you can do it. I'm on day 7, I was tempted to quit several times but the people here are great. Youll do great. |
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BrideInJuly New Member
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Hi All..... I've been reading many of your posts, and wanted to join the club! I'm on day 2, and last night I cut up canteloupe & pineapple, and I was looking so forward to having bananas as well........then when I got up this morning and looked at the day to section I realized I couldn't eat all the fruits I could put in my fruit dessert...UGH! Oh well.....so it's been apples and strawberries so far today. Saving my sandwich for dinner. Yesterday was easy.....I think this plan is really going to work. I did the 6 week body makeover last year and lost 23lbs/21 inches in 6 weeks....but I hated the diet and restrictions. This one lets me eat real people food and seasoning!! I weighed 196.8 Monday morning, and I'm going for 130-135 (we'll see when I get there!) I'm getting married 07/07/07 and I really want to be at least 145! My fiance can't believe the foods I can eat on this plan......BACON...lol!!! I seriously love bacon! Anyways, I hope you don't mind if I join in here......I learned with 6wbmo that the forums helped keep you accountable.Good luck to us all!!! LeAnn |
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Teena New Member
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BrideInJuly, Hi!I'm happy that your joining us. This diet is like nothing I've ever seen before. Congrats on losing 23 pounds already. I started at 162 pounds and I would like to get down to 125-130. So I'm trying. Congrats on your upcoming wedding!!Thats a great motivation. Well welcome and I'm here for ya. |
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bbkitty New Member
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Hi everybody! This is my third cycle (Day #4 today) and I was steady losing 3 lbs per week until this last weekend was my cheat weekend and I had been thinking of what I craved most (tacos) and ate a bunch of them on Sunday and gained back 3 lbs. I was VERY depressed because I felt so great last friday. My plan now is to not plan on eating one of my favorite foods on the cheat days because I CANNOT just stop at one taco (I KNOW THIS) or a 1/3 cup of lasagna. That's a tease to me, so I just am going to avoid that and eat a "regular meal" like a chicken breast, rice and beans or something. Anyway, that being said, I wanted to ask what you guys do when a "special occasion" falls in the middle of the cycle? Do you just skip that day and the next day continue with Day #6 or whatever, or do you start over from Day #1? Because I'm sure there is a method to what order the meal days are in for losing and I just wasnt' sure about that. Tomorrow is a special dinner at a Brazilian restaurant that I must attend and I can eat my breakfast, lunch and snack on the diet but dinner will blow it. I will not eat any bread or anything, and the Brazilian way is MEAT, so I will be eating steak or some variation and I can choose healthy at the salad bar, but in no way will it be like my #4 meal you know? What do you guys do? Just start from day #1 or keep on the cycle? THANK YOU! p.s. I am not asking so i can cheat all the time and I'm not asking so I can screw the diet every weekend....This is just unavoidable social stuff and for me this diet is fine as long as I don't have to be in those situations (ie: around other people eating normal food) and I am so happy to be losing weight FINALLY I do NOT want more setbacks, just can't get around this part... THANKS! |
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4luvme New Member
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Hello. This is my first time in a forum. I am starting my new diet on Monday. This weekend is my Birthday and we're having a cook-out so I thought i'd wait to start 'til after the weekend. I've got lots of questions. I've been trying to plan my meals ahead of time because my days are so long. I awake around 7am and go to bed around 11:30pm. How do i know which meals are going to be more fulfilling so I can wait longer between those meals? I'm a stay at home mom and I eat all day now, whenever I want. When one meal is a sandwich can I eat more than one? (I usually eat 2 and not be full.) As far as the water goes, some days I can drink a lot and others I don't want to touch it. How many ounces is considered a glass? I also red that your body needs water more than food so when you are feeling hungry your body really wants water. I've tried that a few times but found it not very successful. I've tried diets before and I ended up getting pregnant so I would really like to lose the weight this time and not gain more. I have three boys, 6, 2 and 1 years old. I was 110 lbs in and out of highschool and now I'm 160 lbs. My goal is to reach 120 lbs. I've only gained weight from being pregnant because the scale has not changed between those times so I think once I reach my goal it will be alot easier to stay there. Thanks a bunch if you can help. |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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bbkitty Regarding your dinner at the Brazilian restaurant: remember that you can re-order your meals. You don't necessarily need to eat them in the order #1, #2, #3, #4. So if you think that one of the other meals (say #1) has the types of foods that will be available at the restaurant, have meal #1 in the evening. If you did abort on day X and go back to day 1, you'll miss out on some days in the plan so I'd say continue from where you were, but keep the cycle to roughly its intended length of 11 days - (you don't want to end up with an extra-long cycle, do you?). That's just my aestetic speaking here in this paragraph though. It takes the consumption of an excess of 10,500 calories to gain a pound of fat, so if you think that's what you did during your cheat weekend you are certainly going to have to train yourself to eat normally during your weekends. However do also please note that this plan is relatively moderate in carbohydrate intake and therefore you may simply have gained water weight due to your temporarily replenished glycogen stores (1 carb gram is stored as 1 gram of gylogen with 3 grams of water, so 2000 calories of carbs equals 500 grams of gylcogen (which is 4.4lb including the water weight)) and equally extra sodium leads to temporary water retention, especially if you've not been drinking sufficient water to help flush it out. |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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4luvme, don't have answers to all your questions. happy forthcoming birthday. The aim isn't to be full, just to be satisfied, or in other words not be hungry anymore. by the way I belive sandwhiches have to be made from oat-bran bread, not just any kind of bread (look it up with the materials you were provided with) perhaps this will help with feeling full. I believe 8oz water is concidered a glass. |
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bbkitty New Member
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Phew! Thanks for the advice about staying within the cycle. I realized Meal #4 last friday was meat & hardboiled eggs, so the Brazilian dinner wasn't horribly off. Ate okay at the salad bar and then just had alot of steak. I did have 4 of the Brazilian traditional drinks (which are a variation of a mojito) and am very happy to report, Monday when I weighed myself I had just stayed the same! Thank God! This weekend is technically my "cheat" weekend, but I think I'm going to just keep going a little bit more because next weekend is my birthday celebration in Memphis so... Boy that veggie day is hard for me. But seeing the scale makes it worth it doesn't it?Hope everyone else is staying on track and having a good week. |
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butterfly~princess New Member 
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I am new to this program and am really hoping and praying for success. My current weight is 208.8 pounds and my mini goal is to be back into the 100's by 05-31-07. I am liking it all so far but it is just my first day. I am a little worried about my fruit and veggie day. Is the hunger on that day unbearable? I certainly hope not. Good luck to all. |
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bbkitty New Member
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butterfly princess, the hunger isn't UNBEARABLE but my first time around with the fruit I felt pretty panicky around 3 pm, i ate some pears and to my surprise I was ok. My veggie days are harder (for me) because I'm used to eating breakfast at a certain time and who wants to eat salad at 7 am? So what I usually do is keep my mind off breakfast and eat my first salad around 10 am and it tastes really good, i eat the other salad around 1ish. The only thing I have to tell you about both those days is you have to keep super busy all day and go to bed early (just my personal plan) if you can. Also keep telling yourself YOU CAN DO THIS. People all over the world are starving not by choice and they make it. I try to look at my veggie and fruit days almost like fasting and just keep my mind off it somehow. All I can tell you is it is SO WORTH IT when you see that scale at the end of the week. And THAT gives you motivation to do it again, and makes you so proud you made it through. GOOD LUCK! |
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bbkitty New Member
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oh, and i forgot to say...i don't think there's any way you can lose 100 pounds in 3 weeks, unless i misread your numbers. but it's possible to drop 15 or so? |
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butterfly~princess New Member
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BBKitty, I am sorry for the misunderstanding I should have made myself more clear. LOL!! I bet you thought that girl has a lot of wishful thinking LOL !! I mean that by the end of May I want to be out of the 200 pound range where I am now at 208.8 and into the 100 pound range such as 199.9. Does that make better sense? I hope so. LOL!!! I am so silly sometimes. My plan doesn't have a day of just fruit and then a different day of just veggies. It has a day where I get 1 meal of fruit and 2 meals of just veggies. I know that I do have the older plan though so maybe that is why. The tips you offered are very much appreciated. I will try to go to bed early on that day. A lot of my meals consist of mixed veggies. I am worried that I will be hungry during those times as well. Like you said though there are people all over the world that go without eating at all. I know I can make it on veggies and fruit. I am so pumped about this plan I really pray that it works. I am also doing a cleansing diet on my 3 cheat days per DR.s orders. So I will definitely let everyone know how it all goes. My weigh in day is May 17, 2007. So keep your finger crossed for me. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Hey, Princess. How did F&V day go? How are the rest of you? I blew it on the cruise. No huge regrets as I really enjoyed it, but now I need to get back to it. Hope all is well! |
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butterfly~princess New Member
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Hi Dobie, My F&V day isn't until Wednesday. I am still praying that I will get through it ok. God Bless |
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bbkitty New Member
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Hi! Glad you enjoyed your cruise. I'm going on my first one in September and you hear from everyone how they gained 5-10 lbs so...BUT at the same time, you paid for it, you can be not completely stupid and gorge yourself, but at the same time enjoy food you don't normally get to eat on this diet. That's what I think anyway. Plus, it's only a week, so damage control as soon as you get back is the ticket! I'm kind of bummed, last Friday was the first time I weighed in I hadn't lost. I was really hoping to be under 125 by now. I'm not quite sure what exactly it was. I am leaving for Memphis for my birthday this Friday so obviously, I'm going to take those days off the diet but as soon as I get back I might have to step it up a notch. I still lift weights 3 days a week and do the core exercise class every day at noon at work and yoga on Mon nites but I have been pretty happy I haven't HAD to cardio with this diet. Just time and boredom mostly, but at least spring is here and I can do it outside. Well that's my story. Hope everyone else is doing good and Dobie, what was your favorite part of the cruise and which ship did you go on? I'm VERY excited for mine. |
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JulesG New Member
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Hi bbkitty On my veg day I make soup with a whole bunch of the listed veg, and start my day with that, then move onto the salad veg for the rest of the day.(Freeze some of the soup for when the plan says to have- a bowl of green veg-which at work would be impossible) I have also tried the veg chilli( under recipies) for dinner on top of spinach. This was devine, and gave me something other than salad to look forward to. Good luck Jules |
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butterfly~princess New Member
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Fruit and veggie day wasn't half as bad as I thought that it would be. I have a question though. I know that somewhere in the diet it gives you a list of acceptable fruits and veggies but I cannot find it. Does anyone know where it is at??? God Bless |
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bee123 New Member
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Hello! My name is Bianca and I am 21 and I live in Dallas, TX. I am originally from Vancouver, B.C. and ever since I moved south I gained about 20 lbs I've been trying to do some research on this diet and I have yet to hear bad things. This seems like one of the only active forums on here... why so dead? I was wondering if any of yall have been having any progress? Right now I am on the cabbage soup diet and am trying really hard to keep with it but would like to try something else.... FL4I maybe!?!?! Thanks so much! |
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bbkitty New Member
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try this diet for sure! i've been trying everything for the last 2 years and this is the only diet that worked (or that i worked correctly!) at the least, you're only out $40 and 11 days of trying. IT IS GREAT! Good luck! |
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bee123 New Member
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Oh really? That's great. Yeah 40 bucks isn't that bad! I am 5'9 and weigh 156 right now and am trying to get down to 120-125. Do you think this diet would work for me? |
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bbkitty New Member
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I do. Because every diet I tried and even went to a plastic surgeon about lipo and tummy tucks etc. said because I am so short (5'1) and have only about 20 pounds to lose it would be VERY hard for me, which totally sucks. But I consistently lost 3 pounds every week for 2 cycles of the diet. I haven't GAINED any back, but I didn't lost for the first time last week and this weekend is my birthday celebration in Memphis so I'll be "off" the diet but not stupid hopefully. Just really be careful on your "cheat" days. The second set of cheat days I had fantasized about eating tacos again and so I ate 5 of them. Gained back 2 pounds. Super depressing. Now I realize about myself I cannot portion control stuff I LOVE to eat (tacos and lasagna) so I just can't even eat them period. On my cheat days in the future I'll just be sensible and eat maybe some chicken breast, rice and beans dinner or something you know? But seriously, try this. I was so happy I was crying the first week of seeing the scale. And it's so EASY, no weighing, measuring, etc. Just do your shopping list on Sunday nite and get ready for the week and that's it. That's a huge part of it for me too, the whole weighing, measuring food thing drives me nuts. I cant wait to hear of your progress if you start! |
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bee123 New Member
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WOW! Well its glad to hear you have such motivation. I understand you fall off sometimes... haha I don't know when i'm full either when something is just absolutely delicious. I' m excited to start now! :) |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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How is everone doing? Hope all is well. Dobie |
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bbkitty New Member
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hope everyone is still doing good. i'm on day #8 (my favorite...veggie day) today and trying not to think about it. this is really weird, but this week for the first time in 4-5 cycles, i am HUNGRY! i eat scrambled eggs for breakfast and usually i'm good til noon or so, but this week, man, my stomach was rumbling at 9:30! it happened in the afternoon too and i was weak by the time dinner came. i am drinking water, water, water, but i sure am hoping this isn't permanent. has this happened to anyone else? i dont know if there is something weird about this week and my body or??? i couldn't take it if this is permanent. oh, and i wasn't coming off cheat days either, so its not like my body is just craving stuff i just had. is my body used to the diet and its not enough food or protein or? help! |
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JulesG New Member
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Hi bbkitty I too have been hungry, and this is about my 6th cycle of the 11 day menus. I dont know why it happens, but what I did( in sheer desparation )was to eat the other choice within that meal 2.5 hours after( rather than just one of the choices), then carry on with the other meals the same. So I ended up eating every 2.5 hours for a couple of days. My body then seemed to 'get over it' and I went back to eating every 4 hours. The other trick I do is to eat home made salsa with EVERYTHING- incl.eggs because this is allowed from the condiment list, and I find it stops my hunger. Please can I ask you- when you have scrambled eggs, how many do you have?? I stuggle with what is a normal amount?? I have 2 whole eggs or if I feel very hungry I have 2 whole and 1 egg white. Hope this makes sense Julie |
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bbkitty New Member
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that's a really good idea. if i have it around, i will just eat an apple or something that can't be THAT bad, but the other food choice is a great idea if it's an easy thing to have around at work with me. obviously halibut or bacon i'm not going to have lying around, but yeah... as for eggs, i'm so used to egg beaters (egg whites) that it's rare i have regular scrambled eggs. so at the cafeteria for breakfast i order 4 eggbeaters. the one time they didn't have them and i got regular scrambled eggs, holy cow, 4 of them was this HUGE plate, they looked at me really funny. but 4 eggbeaters equals like maybe 2.5 regular scrambled eggs. i could probably eat 6 eggbeaters. thanks for telling me i'm not the only one, interesting that we're around the same amount of cycles too. i'll just keep slugging it out. i told myself when i'm 15 pounds down i'm going to buy myself some article of clothing to celebrate and i really really want to see that soon! good luck with you and thanks again! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Guys, If you are hungry after two eggs (about 200 calories), I suggest you are not eating enough. You need to space your calories throughout the day. Eating every 2.5 hours is great as it speeds your metabolism and you are more likely to keep your calories up to the RMR level. Even the diet says that if you are hungry before your next meal to eat more. DON'T starve yourself or you will stop losing and will gain it all back on your cheat days. Keep us informed on how it is going, okay? |
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jojokat New Member
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Hello, I'm new too, on day number one. I'm not feeling great to be honest, kind of jittery, I wonder if that is a carb withdrawl? I think I didn't eat enough with my meals. I have a business meeting soon during the time when my last meal is, so I guess I'll have to eat after...takes planning doesn't it? I'm dreading tomorrow, fruit day. I usually have trouble with the acidity of fruit on an empty stomach, so not sure what's going to happen with that. Anyhow, great to know there are some live people out there, best of luck to everyone! |
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rayaray New Member 
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I am starting today and am very nervous-I usually don't last a whole day on a diet. I begin to feel very deprived and am very visual so I keep seeing junk food I want. Help, has anyone else gone thru this? |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Anyone else? How about everyone? Whole day? How about whole hour? Realize that you've spent your lifetime learning your (bad) eating habits and don't expect to change them in an instant. Don't look at a slip as a reason to give up completely. Here's a good newsletter on Changing Behaviors. Also be sure to read the the Tutorial. You can do it! Peter |
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rayaray New Member
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Peter, Thank you so much for your reply. I read some of the articles and they were very helpful. I made it through the first day intact Ate and didn't feel hungry, amazing!! Again thank you Thoraya |
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lisacna New Member
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First off I get the junk out of my line of sight. Out of the house preferably but at the least put up where you cant glance at it and want it. Drink the water it helps you feel full , gives you somehting to do with your hands and your still technically putting something in your mouth. I am a binge eater so for me this diet is easier because it breaks my addiction. I cant think about what to eat next ect because it is all written down and doesnt involve alot of cooking or prep. And I have lost weight so fast it really has kept me in awe enough not to cheat. I try to remind myself if I come across a food I really really want then I can eat it on my three day break. YOur never more than 11 days away from any food you want to eat! Lisa |
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rayaray New Member
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Hey thanks for the good ideas although the out of sight will be interesting. I live with 2 people who can eat anything, anytime and do so unfortunately its usually not out of sight. I like the 11 day expections and your idea of saving up til then. I think if I stick to this it will break my sugar cravings and if I do want some thing I will be in control. If not I will just try to skip it. But I think total depravation would be unwise. |
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firefly New Member
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Just want to say welcome, I'm new too and new to dieting after living a life of mainly being severely underweight and struggling to put weight on, I'm now at a new place where I have to actually lose some weight now. |
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Matymus New Member
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OK...I've been reading about FL4I for a couple days now. I somehow stumbled upon it, and it's a bit confusing. I'm willing to put in the 'work' needed to be successful at a plan such as this, but I need to know what I'm getting into. I'm afraid that this might turn into something a bit too similar to Atkins. I was very successful at Atkins, for the most part, but when I'd succumb to cravings, it was BAAAAD. Not good. Does anybody know if this is similar to the Ultra Simple Diet? (ultrametabolism.com/blog/2007/04/the_ultrasimple_diet_a_more_de.html) I don't have alot of money to spend, with my first child to be born any day now. But I'm sickened by my inability to keep weight off. I'm sick & tired of being on diets that I have to constantly think about food....journal this, journal that......what can I have today?...what can't I have today?...How am I going to make it through this next party without being caving? Please forgive me if I seem extra-cynical, but to be honest....I am. I've seen alot of great reviews on this diet. But, I'm just nervous about it, that's all. I know I have to give up certain things, and I'm willing, but...the FL4I website tells me nothing I really need to know, until I buy their program. Does anybody have any advice or insight? Please help. Thank you, Matt Numbers 6:24-26 Last edited on 25 July 2007 01:38 am by |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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As far as start-up costs go, FL4I is one-off $39, you get an online book and access to a generator. Theoretically the generator is only available for a few months but if you print out or save enough menus then even if you are subsequently "locked out" you till have those menus. The start-up cost for the ultra-simple-diet is the cost of the (physical) book. If you're in the market for a diet book that makes sense, I'd like to recommend the one I personally use, Eat To Live by Dr. Joel Fuhrman (do you have a Library Service? I've not paid for my book - I just have it out of the library) Of the 3 approaches I've just mentioned, I'm familiar with the FL4I through reading lots of contributions on this forum; I'm familiar with Eat To Live through personal experience; I also followed the link you posted to read up about the ultra-simple-diet. It seems that the ultra-simple-diet is going to have you spend $$$ on some supplements. (the other two plans don't). The thing that is common between ultra-simple-diet and eat-to-live is that both stress the inclusion of lots of fruits-and-vegetables and a reduction in meat/fish, and both emphasize the importance of health. On the other hand, the FL4I generator usually comes up with menus that have quite a lot of meat, fish and dairy - almost every single day. The FL4I approach is "easier" to follow for those who are not yet prepared to make the full transition to truly healthy eating - those who want a half-way house between junk food and healthy eating. Some people complain that, because they have to follow the diet produced by the FL4I generator, they have to waste food that is called for in one meal (deli meat, cottage cheese etc.) which then isn't mentioned for a few more days, so that is a concern. On the other hand, the other 2 approaches require larger amounts of fruits and vegetables, which can also be expensive. [I do my best to eat on the equivalent of $40 per week, but I'm very savvy with my cash] The decision you have to make is not about money. Either way you'll be spending money to deliberately buy appropriate foods. And whilst I think that $39 is a rip-off for a diet generator, that is neither here nor there. The real decision you have to make is weather you are prepared to switch to a mostly-fruits-and-vegetables diet, in which case I'd recommend Eat To Live (but I'm sure the ultra-simple-diet has some merit too) If you're not prepared to "go there" just yet, FL4I may be more practical for you, simply because it will have more "familiar" food choices. Familliar, because they are the sorts of foods you were eating whilst you've been "putting on the pounds". But be honest with yourself - if this is the extent to which you can commit to weight loss, then do it that way. |
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Matymus New Member
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This is all great information! Thank you so much for the feedback. It definitely is something worth thinking about. I appreciate it. |
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rayaray New Member
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Hi, I am just about finished with my first 11 days and I have been satisfied with one very spectacular thing for me. I have not been dealing with my sugar, carbo cravings. I am unable to follow the diet exactly bec. of diabetes but am grateful for all the info, reading all the forums, etc. I will let you know how things go, but the four meals a day just make sense to me. Let us know how you do. |
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rayaray New Member
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Hi, so glad for your post. What day are you on? I'm on day 10 and its been very interesting I'm a diabetic so my weight loss so far has been small (3-4 lbs) but it's helping me be in control (even if I do go to bed early). Knowing exactly what I am eating has been a huge help to me, for me I'm a bit concerned about the 3 days off but I plan to continue the 4 meals and spacing with regular size meals. Congratulations on overcoming your underweight problem and I'm sure you will do well on this. Thoraya |
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firefly New Member
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To be honest I've not been counting the days I've just made changes. I've not lost any weight so far. I know that it was nigh on impossible for me to gain weight so I'm finding I'm having the same problems losing weight. I've been told to lose weight I need to have 1000 calories a day which is half the amount a woman needs to consume in a day. |
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Nir Senior Administrator
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firefly: if you are still wondering what this "which day are you on" business is about, scrolll to the top of the topic and notice that it has been placed in the Fat Loss 4 Idiots diet plan, which is a computer-generated plan made up of 11-day rotations (with 3-day breaks). [It is a commercial plan, sold for $39, with a mainly USA market but there are some UK people doing it too.] And like yourself I'm also not following this particular plan, but still have an interest in what my fellow dieters are up to. |
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firefly New Member
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Nir wrote: firefly: if you are still wondering what this "which day are you on" business is about, scrolll to the top of the topic and notice that it has been placed in the Fat Loss 4 Idiots diet plan, which is a computer-generated plan made up of 11-day rotations (with 3-day breaks). [It is a commercial plan, sold for $39, with a mainly USA market but there are some UK people doing it too.] And like yourself I'm also not following this particular plan, but still have an interest in what my fellow dieters are up to. Thankyou for the information, no I'm not following this plan but like you interested to hear how others are doing. |
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Matymus New Member
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Wish me luck, guys. I downloaded this last night and am going shopping tonight. I plan on starting tomorrow. My in-laws come to town on Aug. 8th, so I'm trying to have my 'cheat' days correspond with their visit. I do alot of running already, but I'm curious to see if there are any runners on this board that are currently on this diet...and find out how it's going. I also lift weights, so I want to know that I won't be losing muscle. I'm ok with 'boring' foods at times...it'll just be a challenge getting my wife to be actively supportive with me buying these foods when we're down to one income. We won't have much $$...plus, she's strictly a 'moderation' girl and refuses to give up any chips or anything that will cause me to stumble, so I'll have to be extra careful. How often do you guys use butter on this? Only when cooking eggs? |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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I don't use butter. I have cooked eggs in different ways including buying them in the cafe downstairs where they use an oil, so I don't think it will stop you from losing, but minimze your amount. I use flax seed or olive oil and only enough to spread on my teflon pan. Snacks can be hard, but remember the whole "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels". It is trite, but true for me. :) Keep drinking your water and if you see her snacking or eating those, focus on your "fun" meals - those you enjoy and look forward to. Best of luck! |
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dee1174 New Member
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Hello, my name is Dina (Deena) and I have just finished day four today. I weighed myself before starting and am not weighing again until Sunday to check in. I have about 40 pounds to lose (50 if I want to really hit goal) and want to lose sooo desperately. I am finding FL4I so interesting and easy because it's REAL food and there's nothing fancy to prepare. It's basics and for a working mom who's working on a Ph.D. it's PERFECT. My husband is following as well and we are anxious to see how we are doing on Sunday.... Warmly, Dina |
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Jules41 Senior Member 
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Hi Dina I lost 25lb on this plan, but the biggest change for me was----I HAVE KEPT IT OFF -YEY!I was the worlds best Yo Yo dietor, until I started the FL4I plan. I follow the download menus as my maintenance, but now add a little salad or veg to the meals, and even 1 potatoe once in a while. This works for me because I do not have to really think about it( the maintenance plan looks great but involves- to me- a lot of planning, and I dont want to spend my mental energy doing that.) I have downloaded 12 menus to date, with totally different choices on them, mainly to suit my moods on food.- This is my life line. Wishing you all the luck in the world with this plan, stick with it, and you should see great results.  Jules |
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dee1174 New Member
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Do the food choices change up then? I have downloaded two menus and they are very similiar because the foods I had to chose from were the same. Thanks so much, congrats on your loss and most importantly, keeping it off! I am a yo-yo'er as well so I am looking forward to a long-term loss and a new way of eating and learning to eat properly. Warmly, Dina |
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Jules41 Senior Member
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Hi No, sadly the food choices do not change. You just have to vary what you choose yourself. I sometimes leave out nuts or eggs. Fish is also something I have to 'fancy' to eat, so I only have one menu with fish on it. I think the most change for me has been I now eat much smaller portions, even though it is 4 times a day. I am sure you will have amazing success. Jules |
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Lanier758 New Member
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Hi, I just started this fat loss 4 idiots diet. I will go shopping today for the food. I cant wait to start. I have about 40 lbs to lost. There is one person that told me, "Is there any diet that you havent tried?" It will blast them when I lose the weight. What happened to a little faith? I will do it! The forum readings really help! Thanks, Elisabeth |
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foxpaw New Member
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Good luck Elisabeth! I've been losing a steady 5lbs. every cycle (including the 1 or 2 lbs. you gain back during the three off days) for 4 cycles now. That's 20lbs. in 2 months for those of you too lazy to do the math It's been great! I've gone from 207lbs. to 187lbs. and this 4th cycle isn't even done yet! One small recommendation I would make that it took my wife and me a few cycles to figure out is to buy your food one week at a time. The types of food vary so much from one day to the next, we found that we were wasting food by buying it all at the beginning of the diet. Stick with it! |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi Elisabeth, I'm fairly new too, just one week in. Good tip on the shopping foxpaw. I've got nectarines going bad on my counter because I bought too many I hope you post often with your thoughts and results because there aren't too many posting anymore and it will be nice to have some one to hang out with. Denise |
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madhatter New Member
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Hi, I have just started this diet, am now on my 8th day, and so far lost 5 1/2lbs. I am 41 and weigh 11 st 13lbs, so hopefully will be able to do a few cycles of this diet, and lose the weight that I never seem able to do on any other. Good luck to you. |
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zil New Member
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Hi everyone. I just came across this forum and I think its great. I've been motivated to keep it going. I started last week. I am on day 7 and 6 lbs down. Very excited about this. |
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Welcome Zil and well done! |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi Zil and Welcome! Congrats on such a great beginning. I haven't had the major weight loss as advertised but am still happy. I like the no-brainer aspect on what to fix for meals. Keep up the good work and come back often. Denise |
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zhanarka New Member
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Hello everyone, I am new to FatLoss 4 idiots and was at that point when I was fed up with my appearance and had to lose some weight, so I decided to give it a go! Today is my 9th day already and I so far I've lost 4-5 pounds (I went from 168 to 163/164). Doesn't seem like I will lose all 9 pounds in 11 days. I am a bit disappointed, but thinking that maybe it's due to my lack of exercise and inconsistent eating schedule. I tried my best, but sometimes ate only 3 meals or substituted one food for another; I never ate anything exceptionally wrong though. But, after all I did lose weight and I'm hoping to get better results next cycle! That is if I don't go crazy during the 3 days and start inhaling sugary food :))) This forum has been really informative and supportive, so thank you! |
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zoosalad New Member
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I am just getting the hang of this but I figure support is good!!! I have been on so many weight loss programs my body is worn out. I bet my metabolizm is null. I started nursing school in August and have just kept growing I am 5 ft 4 and 200lbs. I would like to lose 50lbs but any weightloss right now would be encouraging. I am on day 1. I went shopping for my remaining 10days.My husband thinks I am crazy to do this during the holidays but I love a challenge Wish me luck |
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chati New Member 
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Well that is pretty brave of you but as I was saying to my husband, this morning talking about his Mums birthday dinner tonight. I must stick to plan! There´s always something happening to take us off track! hence I never get to where I want to be so this time round I must say NO. ( of course its easier when you are going round to a family dinner, bit harder in a restaurant). Just a little recomendation. Someone recomended a while back, not to do all your shopping in one go and I´d go along with that. ( I have thown so much food away recently its sinfull and I feel really bad about it) |
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chati New Member
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Hi there. 4 - 5 lbs sounds ok to me. Well done. How´ve you been doing on your 3 days ? |
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Sunrae New Member 
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I'm almost convinced that Fat Loss 4 Idiots might work for me. Being a green personality type I just have to analyze it a little more before committing to the diet. I've been unsuccessful at losing the weight I've gained since I quit smoking almost 3 years ago on January 2, 2005. I haven't worked that hard but feel that 2008 is going to be my year for success in many areas of my life. I'm here now to say hello, find some support, and hopefully meet some new friends with the same goals. Best wishes for a healthy & happy new year! Carla  |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi Carla I'm glad you stopped by to check us out. I hope you read all of the old posts including tips from everyone. This forum is what really convinced me to begin. The forum isn't as 'hopping' as it was but new people are joining and they are all still as helpful here. To be honest I have not had the dramatic weight loss that the program talks about, but I have read that many have, so I know it can be done. I just like the plan, no calorie counting, food weighing or fat grams to count. I have lost 10 lbs to date and my husband has lost 14. I am going to be on/off the plan until the first of the year and then back on strong. I believe that 'wanting' a plan to work is half the battle and it sounds like you are really ready to go. Let us know when you start and we'll be here to help you along. Denise  |
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Sunrae New Member
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Hi Denise, Thanks for the post and welcome! I did spend time reading the old posts and tips today; one of the biggest factors drawing me to this method. The other being that much of the information contained in the Fat Loss 4 Idiots is very similiar to what I learned from my personal trainer last year. As I said, I just haven't applied it like I should. Like you, I will be starting strong the 1st of the year. Yes, as a resolution and they do work for me when I commit as I did when I quit smoking. Last year when I went to the personal trainer I had not committed, but now I'm ready! Look forward to what lies ahead and sharing the success with you! Carla |
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michelle0890 New Member 
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Hi I just joined and hope this will keep me motivated. I would like to know what do I do next. I did some exercise today and have modified my diet. I have never posted on the internet before so this is all new to me. Michelle0890: |
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kendra Distinguished Member
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 michell0890,Just check out the site, the forums are great, there are challenges that you can join. people that you can write to , the can help you get motivated and help you to stick with it ....you can find alot of info on this site if you just look... feel free to reply to any ones posts, you can create or own dairy, i have and it is nice to here from others or just post what i ate, what exercises i did......hope this helps any...kendra |
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michelle0890 New Member
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thanks kendra, I really want to loose the weight. It will help to know that others are there to help me too. Michelle |
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kendra Distinguished Member
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michelle there is still a challege open new year new you.....to sign up just go there post that you want to join, your current weight, and what you want to weigh by feb 29th, then enter your weight every monday that is a good place to start......Kendra |
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SexyMe815 New Member
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Hello everyone, Just started day 1 of the FL4I program and Im quite anxious. I dont plan on weighing myself until I head to the doctor on 2/3. Would love to get some advice from others on the diet program. Would love to hear feedback on how long it really took to see a physical difference and if its okay to take multivitamins while on the program. Thanks ,Q |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi SexyMe and Welcome! Don't be anxious, this can work for you. If you haven't read all of the helpful posts on the 'general discussion' go take a look. that's where we mostly hang out and everyone is very helpful. I think taking a multivitamin is a good idea. You should be able to see a difference within the first cycle, or at least feel a difference. Why wait until the 2nd of Feb. to weigh yourself? Do it after your first cycle and I think you will be pleased. Nice to have you aboard. Denise |
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SexyMe815 New Member
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Thanks for the feedback Denise. I'll be sure to hop on over the general discussion to check out some posting. Q |
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tiamat New Member
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Hi all, i'm new to this forum and the diet. I'm also a mother of two (one is 2 and the other is 8). I went up 10 pounds with each pregnancy and there was a pregnancy between these two in which i went up another 10 lbs. So, that leaves me 40 years old and 30 lbs over my pre-children weight. I'm under 5 feet and so this sits quite heavily on my frame. My husband is also perennially fit. It is not uncommon for him to complain about putting on 4-5 pounds after a holiday or vacation, but he can adjust his eating for a week and "poof" its gone again. He's supportive of me, but doesn't really get how hard it is. I just started the FL4I program today and have to say i've been a bit hungry much of the day. I'm not to used to eating just protein, i've always done Weight Watchers and had more control over my choices. But, like some of you all, I'm eager to jump start my metabolism as I feel it has really slowed down as I have gotten older. I'm quite dreading the fruit day. Any advice? tiamat |
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nina79 New Member
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Hi I'm a newish member too, do u mind if i join ur group too (i know ther's quite alot of u already). I'm on the 2nd cycle (day 3). I barely lost anything on my 1st 11 day cycle. i think this may be cos i've only got about 4 kg to lose (hope so anyway..cos i more or less followed the diet, although did cheat by eating other veg in salad i.e. mushroom and carrots). I also started on monday, so could have cheat days at weekend. Felt really disheartened at weekend cos if anything put on the few pounds i lost last week! I haven't weighed myself again, perhaps tom (day 4). this time I've tried to be stricter and follow plan more tightly although sill confused over some things e.g. what veg can u have when it says mixed veg etc any ideas? nina |
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tiamat New Member
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Hi nina, I jumped into this forum because I thought it was active, but the dates I was reading activity were from this time last year! Anyway, I'm only on day two of my first cycle so don't have any advice yet. Though I'm happy to chat with you about our progress. Have you been doing the walking? tiamat |
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nina79 New Member
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Hi Just realised the same when i looked through now at the dates! so confusing I have been walking a bit more, but i go to the gym regularly so i don't know if this is going to affect the weight loss cos it says moderate exercise and I;m not sure if weights and cardio is okay? How u getting on so far, I'm finding i'm not actaully hungry but it's more a case of craving foods that i never thought i would like yogurt for example! i also find it starange eating two bits of food only like chicken and cheese without anything else really. Oh well looking forward to my smoothie tomorrow morning! |
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tiamat New Member
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Yeah, the whole philosophy is very different from what i have usually tried for weight loss. I am pretty active and usually jog for 45-50 minutes a day or cycle about 20 miles. I used to do weights twice a week as well (with a trainer for the last five years), but I'm working from home for the year and the gym is too far now! I have a stationery bike and a treadmill at home that I use in bad weather (like today). I decided to try the whole program as is, at least for one full cycle and see if makes any difference. That means I have been walking on my treadmill twice a day for thirty minutes. My heart rate does goes up and I end up sweating, but it doesn't feel like as much of a workout as jogging or cycling does. But their argument is that this is what we need to be doing to burn fat which is what I'm trying to shed, so I'll keep you posted! Getting sweaty twice a day instead of once is a pain, as well as trying to fit it into my schedule, but so far so good (of course it has only been three days!) As far as how I'm getting along, yesterday was my fruit day and I was surprised that i wasn't hungry! Although, I have to say I enjoyed my sandwich. I know its not good to weigh everyday, but its a habit so I know I've shed a couple pounds. Can't wait to get to the end of the cycle and see how I do. Just have to keep focused. Keep me posted on how you are doing. tiamat |
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tiamat New Member
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roko1001 I don't know anything about that product or any supplements - don't use them, sorry! |
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DeeDee Senior Member 
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Hi there everyone, I just signed onto this sight last night and Peter told me I will need to go to another place if I want to get more information. I knew I would do something wrong as I have never been on anything like this - including the diet!! I am on my 4th day and that very dreaded fruit day that the oldies talk about was not too bad for me. I got through the day without too much negative. At any rate, I just wanted to say hello and hope to learn names and such - just another challenge, right? Have a wonderful day...talk soon. DeeDee |
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tiamat New Member
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Hi DeeDee, There are just a couple of us on this thread right now and I think we are all fairly new to the program. I'm on day three right now, so yesterday was my fruit day and it wasn't too bad, i was surprised! Nina is also on this thread and she said this is her second cycle. Keep us posted on how you are doing. tiamat |
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DeeDee Senior Member
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Thanks for the welcome tiamat. I have to agree with Nina, it's very strange to eat just one thing because most often the 2 items that are listed do NOT go together at all. Like fish and beef for instance! What are they thinking! I guess being you can eat as much as you want without reaching "full/stuffed" is the key. I know this takes some big changes for me, but in the long run if it works it will be worth the journey. I have friends that are doing Weight Watchers and doing well - that one never worked for me. It took me weeks to lose 2-3 lbs but as of day 4 (today) I'm down 5. I was shocked and reweighed 2x's more just to be sure I was reading it right! LOL Well, here's to us all - lets raise our glasses (of water) high and give three cheers!!! |
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nina79 New Member
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Hi DeeDee Welcome, glad we've managed to get a thread going, need all teh support i can get. Just finished my prawns and scrambled eggs, am quite full (think i may have eaten a bit too much) Glad u got through ur fruit day, i think it's always harder when your only allowed one thing, i'm not particularly looking forward to the veg day i must admit. how are u finding the exercise? Good luck, keep me updated on ur progress Nina |
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tiamat New Member
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Hi all, I can't seem to get the timing right on my meals. How are you all spacing them apart? Cheers to you - just drank a glass of whatever in your honor! tiamat |
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Braxy New Member
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Hi Taximom4two! I'm also new at this, I'm on day 3. I like you am looking to lose 20-30 pounds. I find it amazing the success that everyone has on this diet and how easy it is to follow. However, I have to admit that yesterday on the fruit day I was really ready for that sandwich that night!!! I was wondering if you'd be interested in buddying up. I could use a buddy. In reading about you I thought we had some similarities. I'm a mom---not quite a taxi mom yet, as I have a three year old son. Please let me know if you are interested. If you are not no biggie, I completely respect that! Have a great day! Braxy |
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nina79 New Member
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Hello I found the first week v. difficult in terms of spacing my meals. I now eat at about 9 or just before, 12.30 to 1.00 ish for lunch then abou 4.30 and 7.30 to 8 for evening meal. this does vary however. I find the mornings difficult as i tend to go to the gym i the morning so would mean eating breakfast at 6.30, which seems far too early for spacing meals. I now eat after my gym session instead. i find tht i'm not that hungry 1st thing aftr i've drank all that water! Don't know how useful that was, I suppose its all trial and error! |
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DeeDee Senior Member
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Good evening Nina, I've had a good day so far and I know it's because I have lost some of that dreadful craving for sweets! I am a carb freak and it was really hard the first few days, but now on day 5 tomorrow, it has gotten very much easier. Exercise has not been a fav, but I'm going to try to start working it in before long as I know it will help for sure. I'm just plain old lazy! LOL I have a beautiful treadmill just collecting dust, but I'm going to put myself in gear and go for it - maybe this weekend. One thing for sure I won't be walking outdoors...it's going to be below zero over this weekend and I'm going to stay cozy in the house! We'll be talking again soon! DeeDee |
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tiamat New Member
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Hi Braxy, welcome to this thread. I restarted it a couple of days ago because I thought it was active, but it turned out the posts i was reading were from LAST January! Right now, it seems to be you, me, DeeDee and Nina chatting here. I'm also on day three and new to the program. I have two kids (girls, age 2 and 8), I live in NC, and I'm trying to lose 25-30 pounds. Nina - thanks for your note about meal spacing. That is pretty close to what I have been doing, its just that my last meal ends up being not at the same time my family is eating which makes it a little complicated. You're right, it does seem to be a lot of trial and error! DeeDee - good luck getting back on your treadmill! Every little bit helps! tia |
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Jules41 Senior Member
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Hi Tia With your meal spacing, have you thought of setting the time your family eat their meal to be your last one, then work your times backwards from there. The rules say you should leave 2.5 hours between meals-- so if you have 2 meals within 2.5/3 hours of each other earlier on, so you then fit with your family- that should work too. Jules |
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Braxy New Member
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Hi - Everyone. In regards to the eggs - I usually have one whole egg and then 4-5 egg whites. I'm also allowed turkey with this, so I drop 3 slices of turkey in it so it ends up being quite a bit to eat but not a lot of calories---something like 200 cal. I'm just starting day four and I have to admit I weighed myself---I'm down three pounds...that is just unreal. I have followed this exactly, so maybe that is what helped. I also hated fruit day, does anyone have any suggestions? The only think I'm craving and I'm craving it in a HUGE way is my morning coffee---I like it sweet with splenda and some cream---it was a real comfort in the morning. Anyone else missing their coffee? Braxy |
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finefeli24 New Member
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Hi All, I am new to this diet as well, i have read many posts and i am very EXCITED to get started. i have done so many different plans in the past i am sure i can do well at it. (i have to think positive!) I am beginning this diet tomorrow. Since i work in an office environment it is better for me to have this Day -2 fruit diet at home. Anyone have any advise..... Fee |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi Everyone. If you're looking for a little more chatter, jump on over to the general discussion board of FL4I. There are a lot of newbies as well as oldies. I'm kind of an old newbie, ha. Everyone is very helpful and fun. See you there! Denise |
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anniemah91 New Member
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Hi everyone, Just started my diet for 6 days and have loss 5lb and feeling great. Just in case someone lost the link here it is:- fatloss4idiots.com Last edited on 23 January 2008 06:31 pm by |
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sandiegocowgirl New Member
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Hi everyone. Wow! This is the first chat situation I have EVER done! I have just started the diet and am curious about a couple of things so it would be great if you can help. Can we use flash frozen fruit if the fruit is out of season? Does freezing change the dynamic of the...say...the strawberry? Also, my daughter has started this with me but only has 7 pounds to lose. She is really active, track, aerobics, etc. Is that activity level OK? The web site almost discouraged it. Thanks again for all the info and support I see here. Terrific! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member 
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Sandi...yes..sometimes we eat frozen when we need to but don't eat only frozen..try to get in some fresh fruits especially on fruit day. Slow excercise burns body fat while very strenuous excercise burns the carbs you eat that day and bloodsugar. Some do not excercise at all and still lose. If she follows the diet she should be ok...but track isn't everyday so she could also walk some. Be sure to go to FL4I discussion part 2 and read some old post for lots of tips and then go to the end and post any questions you have...you'll get alot more responses there. BTW there is another High school girl on the diet posting there. Best wishes for a great diet cycle. |
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glassdog New Member 
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Hi everyone: My friend and I are on day 6 of cycle one of FL4I (I guess you'd call it the "new" menu.) We'd been doing WeightWatchers with little success. A group of us (six in all) decided to hold our own WW meetings at our friend's house next door, for a more "personal" touch. My friend and I stumbled across FL4I seven days ago and got right on it. Last night was weigh-in night next door. Instead of my usual .2 or .4 of a lb. loss, I was the "biggest loser" with a 6 lb. loss! And I haven't been able to work out recently due to my taking a bad fall 2 weeks ago. My friend lost 4 lbs. You should have seen everyone poring over the FL4I rules I'd brought over!! I am so glad to have stumbled across this diet!! It's absolutely "idiot" proof, and I'm never hungry. Who'd have ever thought that it would be so easy to lose weight? Glassdog Last edited on 1 February 2008 04:47 pm by glassdog |
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Della New Member 
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Well done thats brilliant. I started FLFI on Tuesday so I am on day five and I have lost five pounds so I'm really pleased. I definatley think its a diet I can cope with. Next cycle though I'm going to be a bit smarter about my food choices as I found alot of them repeated day after day and I need to find some better way of cooking my meals so it doesn't get boring. I was on WW too and found that I wasn't getting very good results so I'm hoping this diet is the answer. |
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alleyne New Member
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Hey Anyone: This is my first time starting FL4I tomorrow (Tuesday) I need all the support or suggestions. Day 1 is: Turkey Slices, bacon strips, fresh strawberries, cashews, boil eggs & chicken I am afraid and excited all at one. Alleyne |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi Alleyne, I guess you got your generator to work If you haven't already done so, jump on over to the general discussion. That's where most of us hang out and you will find so much support and help along the way. There is nothing to afraid of and EVERYTHING to be excited for. Denise |
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long2bslim New Member
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Hi my name is Lucy,i am really thinking about WL4I i have about 120lbs to lose but i am really not sure about it is there any advice or tips that you would give me.Thanks Lucy. |
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long2bslim New Member
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Well i have downloaded the diet and it looks great cant wait to start.Lucy |
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Reenboe Member 
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Hi Lucy. Welcome! I'm new here myself and just started the diet a week ago today. Most of the discussion takes place in the general thread at the top. You'll find lots of tips, suggestions and support there. Good luck if you decide to try the diet. I have about 50 lbs. to lose, but have already lost about 6-1/2 in the past week. Right on target to reach the projected 9 by Friday. |
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Barney New Member
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Hi everyone, I'm starting this tomorrow and hoping to lose some big time weight. Im 6'7" and weigh about 370 pounds. I do have a big frame. People usually guess my weight at around 280 or so. My goal weight is around 260. So i need to lose 110 pounds. Please help me out guys........Ive tried to lose weight throughout the years and had success one time...but managed to gain it all back. Im 37 years old and although im doing this mainly for my health, I have to also admit that Im single and hope that losing this weight will make me feel a bit sexier ( lol - you know what i mean) and get me 'out there' again. Anyways, all the best to you guys and I hope to check this blog out often. Oh well, here it goes......... |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi Barney...welcome to the group...hop over to the discussion group, go to the end and post there...there are some guys who can give you encouragement. Lots of new people starting the diet. Also go to the thread called "progress"....there is a guy there called Sethsdad who posted....he is very tall and was over 400 pounds and is down over 100 pounds so far...he also visited the discussion group and posted afew days ago. Hope this helps. All the best! Sunshine |
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rowdykid New Member
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Hi everyone. I just joined tonight and I have a few questions. I started wl4i today and i feel as if i gained weight.. like my tummy is puffed out and i just feel fat! is that whats suppost to happen??? I just had my daughter 3 months ago and have lost the weight from her but, Im holding 35 lbs from my son yet. I have a bad back so the extra weight makes it hard to pick them up and move around to play. Also my husband is deployed right now and will be home in june i really wanna suprise him with my "smaller" self . Any advice and help would be much appreciated!!!!! Thank you for your time! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Rowdy...your digestion will need to adjust to the diet...what was your menu today? Did you drink all the water...this is really really important as it raises your metabolism and flushes out the fat and keeps the bloat down. You said you had baby 3 months ago...are you nursing right now...this might change how you need to eat. My son has been deployed four times...two times to Iraq and is being redeployed in 5 days...I hear ya!! All the best to you!! SS |
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bunny000 New Member
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Hi Barney! Welcome! I myself just joined, I am on day 7 and I have to admit that only a couple of times of the last few days did I feel hungry. Even those couple of times weren't really that intense. Also I have noticed that my energy level is way up. I have an injury to my foot so walking long distance is hard for me so I try to stay active around my house as much as possible. I think this is a good first step for you. I hope it works out for you. Bunny |
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katieg New Member
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hello I just joined here also. I am on day 3 today. So far I feel awesome! Yesterday was fruit day and I did fine, did not feel hungry until my son started watching the food network last night!!! hehe, but I'm ok today |
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exoticone New Member
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Hello, Firstly, I am so happy to have found all of you! I really thought that I was mad when I decided to try this diet 3 years ago right after I stopped breastfeeding my son, and to my surprise, it worked! I didn't need to lose anymore after the first cycle, so I decided not to do the second cycle and ended up gaining about 3 lbs back for a total weight loss of 4 lbs. Now, I am back to a weight and body shape that I feel uncomfortable with. I am 5' 4' and now weigh between 55 and 53 kilos (116-120 lbs). My normal weight is 49-50 kilos (107-110). My clothes are not fitting right and I have flabby bits everywhere! Before anyone starts asking me if I have anorexia, I must tell you that I have an extremely small frame, my fingers are all between ring size 3 and 4 and my wrists circumference is 4.5 inches. When I am my normal weight, people still think that I am curvy and I like it that way. So, please don't bash me for having tiny-frame Asian genes. OK, sorry for the long intro, but I am hoping that someone may be able to help me: If you do a cycle and then wait more than 3 days to do another cycle, is the weight gain back inevitable? I'm suspicious of the new diet, to those of you who did the old diet, is this just as effective? It seems a little easier, as I was going to kill myself eating ham chunks and tuna all of the time!! For anyone who has between 5-15 lbs to lose, do you think that this diet has worked for you? Last time I did the diet, I was 57 kilos and got down to 52 at one point in the cycle (I think that it was day 6 or 7) and wanted to stop then. But, I decided to finish the cycle and ended up at 54 kilos. If you see weight loss like this mid-cycle, can you get off the diet and just try and maintain? And lastly, I am starting up again tomorrow, does anyone else want to join me? We can motivate each other! :) |
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mommieof2 New Member
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Hi Ex, I won't be able to start the diet until Wednesday, I have to go to the grocery store but i would love to have a supporter in this as well. Of course, I have more like 50 lbs. to lose but it would be great to have someone to share ideas with and to check in on to see how the diet is going. If you want some extra support, feel free to email me. It's always easier to diet when you have people doing it with you. |
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exoticone New Member
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Hi Mommieof2! Thanks for replying to my post! I'd love to have a buddy to go through this diet with me, so if you don't mind, we can try and motivate each other when you start on Wednesday via email or PM (do they have that here? I'll have to check). So far, it's going well, except for the fact that I accidentally cooked the chicken in the microwave instead of defrosting it (new microwave, it's confusing!). My husband is also telling me about the wonderful things that he's snacking on, like chocolate mousse and candy. But, I'm strong, I'll make it through!Take care and I hope that we talk soon... PS: By the way, I may also post my questions on the main thread as it seems to get a lot more traffic... Thanks again, hope to chat soon! |
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Alexandra New Member
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I've been reading everyones quotes and it seems that the people who are losing about a 1lb a day are the ones who aren't excercising at all. Maybe with the diet generator type diet you shouldn't excercise bc then you are burning calories adn possibly messing up the whole shifting of the calories thing? Do you think that could be it. I lost 1 lb each day the 1st 2 days and then I started doing 30 min. of brisk walking each day and now I'm not losing anymore! |
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glassdog wrote: Hi everyone: What a great idea to hold your own WW meetings. So much better than going to the WW meetings themselves, unless you're into that sort of thing. Blackcal |
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hick New Member
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Hi everyone - joined yesterday but have been on the FL4I for 11 days now - today is my last day before my 3 day vacation. Interestingly, I have no cravings like I would have expected. I've lost 9 lbs,just as promised and I think I was doing everything wrong. I now have all the information which I downloaded from the original site. I notice that people are talking about recipes. Where are they finding recipes???? |
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Anyar Distinguished Member 
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hick wrote: Hi everyone - joined yesterday but have been on the FL4I for 11 days now - today is my last day before my 3 day vacation. Interestingly, I have no cravings like I would have expected. I've lost 9 lbs,just as promised and I think I was doing everything wrong. Hick: Thank you for posting and welcome to the FL4I board. If you look at the top of the forum, you will see all of the active threads which begin with FL4I. There is one for "FL4I - Recipes". Likewise, I am also moving your post into the "FL4I - New Members" thread as there is an ongong effort to get people to post in active threads. Good luck and hope you have success. Last edited on 1 May 2008 05:36 pm by Anyar |
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spanishharlem4 New Member
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 Hello everyone, I bought this diet on Sunday, and started Monday. I am currently on day 5, So far I have lost about 3 lbs, even though when I weighed this morning I was up 2lbs, so actually a total of 1 lbs lost. I know that with the bacon, I might be gaining water, but I am not sure. I will keep with it and weight myself again on Monday and that will be one week. If there is any feedback let me know. Thanks |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Spanish: Welcome to the FL4I forum. I see that you've already found the General Discussion board. There are many long-time, and wonderful members that can assist with any question you may have. Good luck. |
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spanishharlem4 New Member
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Thank you for the great support |
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Yoga Mama New Member 
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Hi everyone - I am new to the boards and new to the diet and could really use some tips. I am on day 3 of the DG plan and find that I am still hungry. I have read through lots of your posts which have been helpful and I think that the Beyond Calories version would work better for me but I did not download the BC add-on. Does anyone know how I can purchase just the BC without having to pay for the whole diet all over. I want to finish out my DG plan then switch to BC. Appreciate any help. All of the posts on the site are wonderful and inspirational - I look forward to joining in your discussions!  |
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spanishharlem4 New Member
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Hi Yoga, I am really surprised that you are hungry. I am new too, on my 8th day but I have never been hungry on this plan. I eat until I am satisfied. Also have you been drinking the water, because that helps to make you full. You shouldn't be hungry though. |
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Yoga Mama New Member
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Hi SpanishHarlem, Thanks for your message. I have been getting close to 8 glasses of water - on average 6.5 so that could be the issue - thanks for the reminder! But I also find that I fill up quickly - and since we are only told to eat till satisfied and not stuffed, I find that some meals I do not eat that much. I am used to snacking all day long (which is what got me to this place to begin with) so I fill up quickly. That is why I think the Beyond Calories plan would work better for me. Now if only I could pay for just the Beyond Calories plan |
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spanishharlem4 New Member
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you should post the question in general topics, someone there should know how to purchase it sep. good luck! Let me know how the BC works. |
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wannatravel New Member 
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Hi everyone, I’m new to the forum and this is the beginning of my second cycle. I’m 45 years old, 5’1” with a fairly small frame and 133 lbs (when I started Cycle 1) and would like to get to 115. I lost 6-7 pounds after the first cycle and put back 3-4 on the cheat days. I have some concerns about this which I will address in the general discussion. I was previously on the South Beach Diet. If you are familiar with it ,it has 3 Phases – fast weight loss, slow weight loss, and maintenance. I initially did quite well with it and then modified it to add a 4th Phase, slow weight gain. I stuck with this phase until now, where I am well over my goal of 115. I do believe SBD is a very healthy way to eat long term but right now I’m looking for something a little quicker. I was hoping to lose as much as possible before my vacation on June 1st. I like to ride my bike, taking pictures, traveling, and eating out. I’ve managed to combine these passions a few times but it can get quite pricey if I try to do it too often. The picture of me on the left is on a biking trip when I weighed 115 and the picture on the right I’m probably 130+. Attached Image (viewed 248 times): |
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spanishharlem4 New Member
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Hello Wanna, I am new to this, my first cycle and my first cheat day. I want to say that you after reading so many posts, that I find that everyone gains on their cheat days, but loses all + on the next cycle around. I even read somewhere that if you don't do at least 2 cheat days, that you don't lose as much weight on the next cycle. I know someone experienced will give you some vital iformation. If not just pick throught the post, and you will find old post that discuss the cheat days. Congrads, on losing!!! Good for you. |
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wannatravel New Member
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Hi Spanish Harlem, I agree about the cheat days. I know a lot of people gain but I think you have to take them to "reset" your metabolism. I need to take them to regain my sanity. My menu is fairly limited since I took out the bacon and sausage. I can't even look at another hard boiled egg or tuna. :) Good luck on your cheat days and enjoy! |
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shasha119 New Member
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Hi everyone I am just going to finally start my diet. I am so excited wish me luck!!! my goal is to loose about 30- 40 lbs |
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Hiker Distinguished Member 
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Hi Shasa, welcome. I think you will find this site really helpful. There is usually a lot going on on the general discussion board and any questions you post there will usually get answered pretty quickly. Good luck on diet journey, we have a lot of fun along the way. Hiker |
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shasha119 New Member
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Thankx alot. A question I would really like to know is... well for my first day I have turkey slices and what I am confused about is do I eat the slices alone, and I also have cheese slices on a seperate day do I just keep eating the slices alone until I feel it is enough to where I am not full but still have room left over in my stomach |
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CarrieBeth Senior Member 
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Shasha - That's pretty much it. If it says you can have turkey slices and grapes for meal #2 (or whatever) you can have turkey and grapes, or just turkey or grapes. Your choice. But you can't mix and match to get things that necessarily "go together." We've ALL had our share of meals that look like this: Meal #1: Broiled flounder & scrambled eggs Meal #2: Oatmeal & grapes Meal #3: Chicken & roast beef Meal #4: Frozen yogurt & bowl of green beans Nothing goes together! But you learn to get over it. Remember you can generate as MANY diets as you want until you get one with combinations you can live with. You're NOT stuck with whatever it spits out the first time! Good luck & welcome to the board! |
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wannatravel New Member
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Welcome Shasha. I agree with Carrie, you either deal with the weird combination or eat the food that goes best with that meal. If it's breakfast and my listed meal is grapfruit and tunafish, I'll just have the grapefruit. Also, when I have frozen yogurt on the days menu I push all my meals a little later and have it for dessert. Spanish, how did your cheat days go? |
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CarrieBeth Senior Member
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Same here, wannatravel. I have frozen yogurt and bacon or something weird like that today. So I'm saving that for my fourth meal. And I get chicken AND veggies for dinner! *shock* A combination! A real one! Of course, this means I'm having nuts for breakfast and turkey slices for lunch (and green beans) but...oh well. |
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shasha119 New Member
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well with the sausage I am kind of confused so do I fry them or buy the microwaveable ones please help me I'm 18 and in a wedding I want to lose about 40 lbs by the wedding in July.thanks |
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CarrieBeth Senior Member
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I guess that choice is up to you, however, I've been buying turkey sausage patties or links and they're microwavable, and they're GREAT. Taste just like regular sausage to me. Don't freak. :) We're all here to help. Also, you might want to move this discussion over to the General Discussion Board. That's where almost everyone hangs out! |
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FreeSpirit New Member
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I am starting this diet on Monday so that my cheat days fall on the weekends. I used this plan sometime back and was successful in loseing about 35 lbs. As you do, you resort back to bad eating habits and obviously I gained it all back. I only lost about half of the weight I needed to lose at the time, but I did do it! I have 70 lbs to lose so it will be a long journey for me. Also, I was using the old plan, known then as Weight Loss for Idiots but have since then purchased the new plan as it seemed to have more choices. I am going to begin on the new plan and see how it goes and maybe switch back and forth between both. I still have a few old menus I printed up at the time, as we only had access to the site for 3 months. I'll post again when I have started .Free |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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FreeSpirit: Congratulations on considering to start the diet; however, you might want to consider posting under one of the more active forums appropriate for your question(s) or comment(s) rather than starting a new one. This way, you're sure to get a much quicker response. Good luck. |
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FreeSpirit New Member
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I am starting this diet tomorrow (Monday) and I have about 70 lbs to lose. I did use this diet sometime ago and was successful in loseing 35 lbs at the time, but of course put the weight back on as I resorted back to old eating habits . It was known as Weight Loss for Idiots, back then, and you could only access the site for 3 months. I printed off some 25 menus so have that to use or alternatively the new programme that is not being offered ( I joined up again). After loooking at both versions I prefer to use the original one as I like the food better and some of the fish choices you can eat now are very hard to find where I live It is the same exact diet, 4 meals, 11 day cyles and 3 cheat days. I hope to be successful this time in loseing all the weight and plan to stick with it. Good luck everyone .Free |
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Mouse New Member 
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Hi all......... I just downloaded the plan today.....but won't officially get started till next Monday. I need to go grocery shopping and I already did my usual shopping for the week. So I have to wait to do my own. Plus I'm going to a baby shower and graduation on Sat & Sun. So I'm looking forward to getting started bright and early Monday. See you all then..... Tasha |
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Maimouna New Member 
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Hi Everyone! I'm new to this forum and the diet. I've always been pretty active, but I have a habit of binge-eating which is why I am heavier than I should be (173 lb on 5' 6" frame). Aside from losing the extra poundage to look good, I'm really wanting to try rock climbing which is too hard for me right now at my current weight. Does anyone have any advice for a newbie???? Also, has anyone tried the calorie-shifting diet while exercising regularly? I don't know what regular or vigorous means, but I usually exercise twice a day if I have the time - 40-45 minutes of yoga in the morning and 30 minutes of weight training every other day and 30 minutes of cardio OR 60 minutes of cardio on days I'm not weight training. Thanks alot! |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Welcome aboard Mouse and Maimouna: When you have a chance, check out the various tips in the "FL4I" forums such as advice on weighing yourself, diet guidelines, exercise, etc. These will help get you started on the diet. Also, be sure to check out the "FL4I - General Discussion" forum. It's a very active forum and you'll find plenty of advice and help. Again, welcome, and good luck. |
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Maimouna New Member
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Tasha, I'm in the same boat as you. I only discovered this diet after I had gone shopping! Oh well, I'm not about to throw a week's worth of groceries just to start a new diet plan. My husband will kill me!!! I've looked through other people's comments and feel like the hardest days will be the fruit and the veggie days. I don't do so well when I don't get my protein. What's your goal? Do you have a set date? Good luck with your start. I think we need to indulge now before we go into bootcamp. Keep me posted on your progress! - Maimouna |
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JSTSMILE New Member 
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Hi all, I am starting the FL4I on Monday. I haven't decided if I am going to do the regular diet or the Beyond Calories diet. Any suggestions?? I am a little worried about the 6 times a day on the Beyond Calories, however it give you a wider range of what you can eat. I don't want to get bored of the foods and then give in to eating something that is bad. I am very excited about starting, just a little worried on how I will do. I am not a self motivator and am hoping that this forum will give me some motivation of continuing my weight loss. I am going to the grocery store tomorrow to make sure I have all the food that I need and like. Looking forward to working with everyone on our weight loss and getting and giving help when I can. |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Hi, JSTSMILE: Welcome aboard!! As I usually suggest to people, it's always a good idea to start with using the DG (Diet Generator) before trying (BC). BC requires eating 6x/day, which can be a task within itself. Starting with DG, which requires you to eat 4x/day, allows you to slowly increase your daily meal intake. Once accustomed to using DG, it may be a little easier to switch to BC. Once you start the diet, be sure to join the "FL4I - Discussion Group". You will find lots of help and motivation to keep you going, as this is a pretty active forum. Good luck on whatever you decide. |
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AlmostThere New Member
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Just wanted to drop by and say hi. GOod luck to all!! Hope this works for me......... |
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az New Member
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Hey, everyone I have been on several diets, including atkins, and WW. somehow i seem to loss weight the first time i am on the diet, but second time round does not work. i have been searching the net and come accross this site, i am at the moment on ww and lost 2 lb in 6 months (depressing). i would like to start this diet as it seems promising, would anyone please give me more details on how to start this diet. i have a family wedding in mid july and i need to loose at least a stone, 14 lb,. going down 2 dress sizes. i was considering atkins as i had lost 2 stones (28lb) in 3 months but the thought of having highly fat/protein diet with no veg is sort of freaking me out. all the help and support would be appreaciated. |
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az New Member
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Hey, i am doing ww, but with thinking of doing atkins, been searching the net, and found this site, seems very promising, but i do not know how to follow this diet, anyone able to tell me how to follow this diet. i am really struggling with losing weight and need to loss at least 14lb by july. also is this a low carb, high protein diet |
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CarrieBeth Senior Member
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Hi az! This is what I will tell you about the diet (based on my experience). My first cycle, I lost 7 pounds. My 2nd cycle I didn't lose as much, maybe 2-3 pounds, but that's when I lost the most inches and when my pants really started fitting better. My 3rd cycle I only made it through half-way due to unexpected life stuff, so I did one week and took one week off. I started again today and I have high hopes. I think a lot of people will tell you the same thing...some cycles they lose more than others, but it's important to measure yourself first and to also not put as much weight (ha ha) on the scale as on your clothing. Plus, I feel SO much better on this diet than I did eating "normal." I'm not a huge fruit or veggie eater, so this plan really makes me get the nutrition my body has been craving. I have more energy and I *feel* better all around. Even when I didn't lose a lot of weight I noticed things like my nails grew longer (more vitamins in my diet!) and my general health was better. So even though I didn't have a successful 3rd cycle, here I am, back again to try for a 4th time. I've lost about 10 pounds (lost 12, gained back 2 on my cheat week). I plan to lose those 2 pounds and at least 2-3 more this time around. Slow weight loss is best. While Atkins and South Beach (I've done South Beach and Weight Watchers) are great for immediate weightloss, I feel they're not realistic in the long run. Even a non-veggie eater like myself couldn't go that long without something green (that wasn't a pistachio!). I say give it a try. You have nothing to lose but weight. I do notice that now even when I'm on my cheat days I don't necessarily crave carbs and things that I did before, and I used to be a huge carb eater. Plus, I can't eat nearly as much (quantity) as I once did! That alone is a huge help! Stick with the forum, too. We're a great bunch. I've been here about a month and it feels like home. Good luck! --CB |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Az: If you read through some of the existing threads that have alrleady been created, there is a wealth of information on how the diet works, e.g., "FL4I - Welcome Center", FL4I - Diet Guidelines", "FL4I - Success Stories". The diet is very successful, but you must purchase it through fatloss4idiots.com. |
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jazzed New Member
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I am new and have a question. I've been doing this for a month now. So I am on my 3rd cycle. But the menu didn't change. Is the diet generator suppose to change every two weeks? |
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MavsFan41 New Member
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If you pick the same foods everytime, you probably will get the same menu (or close to it). I believe day 2 is always fruit day and day 8 is always veggie day no matter what foods you pick. Try changing up your food selection (even by just a couple of items) and see what you get. If you don't like the first one, try again. You can generate as many as you like. Hope this helps. MavsFan |
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jazzed New Member
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Thanks, but the food selections have been the same since the first week. Do you get a different choice of foods (or a slightly different choice of foods) every two weeks or is it the same food choices? |
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Kiwi_8 New Member
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Hi Everyone, I am new to this forum, and new to this diet. I am hoping for some really good results. I just purchased the diet plan yesterday and have started today....starting weight is 149.9 @ 5'4" tall .... I am hoping I can stick with this diet, it seems a bit strange from anything I have ever tried before....I like that there is no calorie restrictions on this diet, and pretty much just eat until you are satisfied ..... I am trying to figure out exactly when that is with me LOL, because I am one of those people that will just keep stuffing it in as fast as I can, then all of a sudden I am like . So today I am really paying attention to this, but it just seems like I wont be eating enough to when I am simply satisfied, as for breaky I had 2 boiled eggs, which was perfect, then for lunch I had 1 slice of deli ham and about 1/4 cup of cottage cheese and just ate really slow and that was all I needed to feel good I just hope eating like that small, wont put my body into starvation mode.Ok well I wish everyone luck, |
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az New Member
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hey, thanx i shall see how much i loose, thats for the support |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome all new members...come over to the discussion thread and post your questions...that is where everyone hangs out and you will get responses and answers and support! SS |
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yummy New Member
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Hi Sunshine, thanks for the welcome! brand new to diet. today is fruit day. motivated to do this! I have managed to lose 25 pounds on my own since last august, but with my husband gone to korea for the year I have been finding a friend in food & have gained 9 pounds back. look forward to getting to know everyone have a great monday! Kim   |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi Kim My son has done two tours of Korea and two tours of Iraq. I understand how hard it must be to have him away! It will be to fun to surprise him with a healthier, slimmer happier you and this will give you something productive to do (fl4i program) besides emotional/boredom eating. You will make lots of fun new friends(besides food ) on the discussion forum. While dieting is usually not easy...this forum keeps us all inspired and cheered on and keeps us from giving up or in! I think you will enjoy the journey with us!SS |
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cantwait2lookgreat New Member
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Hello all! This is my first day on the diet and I am so excited about it! I have 2 children, ages 2.5 and 6 months. After #2 (born Dec. 14th) I pigged out at Christmas and wound up gaining 10lbs!! My first goal is to get down to my pre-preggo weight (150, need to lose 22) and after that, maybe lose 5-10 more. Today has not been bad...I've been reading posts about the fruit day (tomorrow) and I'm anxious to see how it goes for me. My husband is trying this with me, and my mom is doing it too! Good luck to everyone and I look forward to chatting with you and sharing stories of our success Abbey  |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Can'twait...and family!....introduce yourself on the discussion forum also! How nice that you have support on this at home...it will be easier! Be sure you all take measurements before you get going....this is a FAT LOSS diet and you will lose inches...sometimes even faster than pounds...so it is very encouraging to measure! Also try on something...like pants...that are very tight now and try them on each cycle to see the difference! SS |
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sweetieday New Member
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Hi I'm a newbie somewhat. I did this diet three years ago, had a different name, different foods and we had a forum that was pretty cool. Why am I back? I had a beautiful baby through a very risky pregnancy that caused me to gain 30lbs while on four months of bed rest (my baby's website - sites.bundleofjoys.com/cally/ ) The first 11 days of the diet I lost 8lbs and the second time around I lost nothing. Not sure why...and I'm trying again out of despiration. My hubby is crazy about my 208lb bod but I'm NOT. I need to lose roughly 40lbs. It seems like a dream that is too far away. Pictured is me when I did the diet three years ago, on my second date with my hubby who I married...our two year anniversary is tomorrow. I really would love to have the energy I need with our little daughter, and I want to fit in my clothes again. I need encouragement! That's why I'm here. I hope it works...even if I lose only 8lbs it's still worth the fourty bucks! Kara PS: question - Can I do tilapia instead of flounder? Attached Image (viewed 478 times): Last edited on 11 June 2008 02:32 pm by |
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fwalter New Member
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Welcome back sweetie!! Congrats on your marriage and baby. I too am returning after a 2 year absence and have about 40 lbs. to lose. Please don't get discouraged if you go through a cycle with no weight loss. Sometimes you will lose inches and not weight. I try on a pair of pants that don't fit at the beginning of the cycle and try them on again at the end. Almost assuredly, they will fit better at the end. Don't forget the water - water, water, water. It makes a HUGE difference. GOOD LUCK and keep us posted on your progress - I'll do the same. |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Hi, Sweetieday: Welcome back to the forum, and I hope you have great success dropping the additional weight. Last edited on 13 June 2008 05:50 pm by Anyar |
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sniffysophie New Member
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Hey everybody! I'm new to the diet, just bought it recently...but haven't had the guts to try it out yet I guess I'm afraid of it not working. I am very small framed, I am 5'5" and presently weigh 126lbs (9 stone). I need to lose 14lbs (a stone) to get to where I want to be... My normal weight is 112lbs but after being on vacation and eating a LOT of junk food, I gained some weight. Now none of my clothes fit !! It's horrible! So I'm going to try this out in hopes that I can lose it in 2 cycles. Really REALLY hope it works!! I'm quite scared to be honest LOL.If anyone wants to be buddies let me know Good luck to all of you on your weight loss journey! |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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sniffysophie wrote: Hey everybody! Sophie: I feel your pain!! I guarantee you that FL4I is the best diet that I've tried, thus far. I had to stand up in a wedding on 4/19/08. I started the diet on 2/28/08 and lost 30 lbs. Unfortunately, after the wedding, I didn't stick with it very well and gained some of the weight back now my clothes are getting tighter. Just recently I did the Beyond Calories diet and dropped 5 lbs. Not quite what I expected, but 5 lbs was much better than gaining. Because you're relatively small framed with little to lose, it may take a little longer to drop the additional weight. However, rest assure that you'll likely lose weight fast and safer using this diet that many others. Be sure to drop in on the "FL4I - General Discussion" forum. That are many very helpful people that will help motivate you. |
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sweetieday New Member
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I'm down 6lbs in 3 days!! I can't believe it!  |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Sweetieday: I just want to say congratulations! A little advice though... Be sure to not only use the scale as your sole measurement tool, but also consider using a measuring tape. Many people on the diet not only lose weight, but also inches. In addition, you might find that you'll pick up 3 lbs throughout the diet due to water retention. Don't let this alarm you. We usually suggest that people stay off the scale during the 11-day cycle for this reason. I hope you continue with the successful weight loss. |
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sugarshortcake New Member
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Just saying "Hi" I have been using the plan off and on for 2 years. This plan works when I finish my 11 days; I am always 9lbs lighter. I have put weight on due to surgeries and now have 25lbs to loose. I can't wait to fit into my skinny clothes again |
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sweetieday New Member
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I weighed myself the very next day and gained 1lb back, so let's just say I'm too afraid to weigh myself again! I'm going by how my clothes are fitting. I know if it says I gained it all back, I'll get discouraged. Only two more days left of this cycle...I really can't wait for my cheat days. |
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rusboldm New Member
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I am so glad I found this site......what a great way to pass around ideas, encouragement etc. My husband and I just started this diet on Tuesday, so we are on day 4! The hardest day for me was the fruit day.....I was starving!!! Anyway, I know the all vegetable day will be rough for me and as I was checking out some of the posts I noticed a mention of making soup on this day. Can anyone give me a receipe for that? We have been very strict thus far with ourselves so I don't want to stray from the generated diet but the thought of eating salad all day is a bit daunting to say the least! Thanks for any advice you can give me!!! Marcia |
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sugarshortcake New Member
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Hi, Just saying Hi! Love this site  |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Slimjim: Just want to say congratulations on your 6 lb loss in "3 days". Rushboldm: Actually, I think everyone find "fruit day" a little more challenging. The good thing about "veggie day" is that you can be very creative cooking vegetable soups (using the veggie ingredients allowed for the day) or veggie casseroles. My favorite is zuchinni/squash with a little parmesean cheese. Good luck to you and your husband. Good luck to you both. |
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LMKelly16 New Member
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Hi everyone ;] my name is Lisa, I'm 16 and I'm trying to lose about 25 pounds. I'm 5'1 and weigh 135 and a lot of people seem to think that 135 pounds is not overweight but I actually am for my height. Regardless, I just don't have a nice body! So I want to lose at least 25 pounsd or whatever it takes for me to be happy with how my body looks. I did this diet last summer and managed to lose 15 pounds but then I kind of ate too much after it and I regret that so a big goal of mine is to learn how to manage food even after the diet and live a healthier life style for the rest of my life. My biggest problem is soda.. until recently I used to drink at least 5 glasses of pepsi a day. So, I understand why I'm overweight and I look forward to losing it and avoiding soda. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi LMK...welcome back! Yes, soda is one of the worst offenders as far as fat gain...it has highfructose corn syrup which the body does not process well and is stored in fat cells. Also sugar can make you want to eat more!! I've found that I have to just stay away from it completely...I used to love Coke ...now that I am drinking alot of water...soda tastes too sweet for me!! I hope you are able to break the habit....I know how hard it can be! Be sure to drink lots of water  as it really does help!!SS |
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LMKelly16 New Member
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Thanks so much =] I know it's going to be a challenge. I think what I'm the most concerned about is the fourth of july... it's going to be hard not to cheat then. I was hoping that the fourth of july would land on my 12th day so I could eat what I'd like but it lands exactly on my 11th and last day.. |
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jessa2000_01 New Member
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Hello everyone! My name is Jessica and after reading many of your posts, I decided to give it a whirl. I am 5'0 ft and weight 134lbs. I am on day one of the plan and i am really excited to see the outcome after 11 days . Any suggestions that anyone has for me to make the plan more effective, please feel free. Thanks! |
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40lbsgone New Member
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Hello just a quick note that I have started today on the FL4I, I am pretty excited about it I think...yet I know that this diet is about making changes and certainly better choices. Rethinking the way you eat. Look forward to reading the posts. |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member 
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Welcome Jessa and 40lbgone. Don't forget to pop into the general forum for tips, advise or just to know that we are all human. Jessa best tip is (at least for the first cycle) stick to the plan as much as possible. Prepare your food the day before and make sure you enjoy your "choice" days. Oh and drink water : ) 40lbgone I hear ya! I have learnt alot about my relationship with food and also what foods don't agree with me (bread who knew ).Cheers Joanne |
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arabic2195 New Member
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HI EVERYONE, I AM A NEWBIE AND STARTED DAY 1 TODAY. I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE RESULTS LIKE EVERYONE HERE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. JUST WANTED TO SAY HI AND LOOK FORWARD TO POSTING SOME GOOD RESULTS. HEATHER |
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a2u28 New Member
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Hi I am on my 5th cycle of the Beyond Calories. I have lost 22 lbs so far. Eating 6 meals a day has been very helpful for me because I don't feel hungry all the time. I am so grateful I found this and decided to purchase it along with the Diet Generator. I tried the Diet Generator for a couple of days and I felt light headed and so went back to the BC. I think BC has really given me a way to loose weight. I realized and am realizing a few things through my journey.... 1) my weight did not come on over night so therefore it will not go away over night. 2) I need to ride my bike or walk a little each day along with BC ( Not strenuously, but lightly) 3) I need to make it a life change not just a quick fix. 4) On my one to two days off, I need to be careful to not stuff myself so I don't put back on the 4-7 lbs I just lost on my 10 day cycle! 5) Be accountable to others so that I can stick with it! 6) Make up my mind that I will stick with it to the end, even when I get bored, tired, or just plain wanting chocolate! I am sure there will be much more to learn as I continue on my BC journey. a2u28 |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Wow..A2...big congrats...you are doing gr8!!! |
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gracefortoday2 New Member
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I purchased the new plan last year...is there anyway for me to have access to the old menu? Jayelle you had mentioned that "Juanita" had written up some instructions but I couldn't find it thru the link she left....is this even possible?? Anyway, just wonderin' if anyone on the new plan has figured out a way to access the old menus. |
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Suzanne New Member
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gracefortoday2 wrote: I purchased the new plan last year...is there anyway for me to have access to the old menu? Jayelle you had mentioned that "Juanita" had written up some instructions but I couldn't find it thru the link she left....is this even possible?? Anyway, just wonderin' if anyone on the new plan has figured out a way to access the old menus. Same question. It seems that the old plan is more exciting! |
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xiomigirl Senior Member 
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Hello everyone! Well Im new obviously, but I havent purchased the FL4I! Actually ive got the spanish version (Im from peru ^^), but since this is the only forum I have found about this ''diet'' I signed up looking forward to some kind of support! and also to have some answers to my questions! I guess ull be able to understand me since i can understand you, but I hope in both versions the food is the same! Well, i want to lose 5 kg! (If im not wrong, thats exactly 11 lbs!) So it seems this diet is the right one for me huh? hehe well, you might say thats nothing compared to others that have to lose 50 or 100 lbs.. but ive been struggling with my weight since i was a teen! (Last year: 5f. /150lbs) and i managed to lose almost 30 lbs! I went to a nutritional center (CRUEL DIETS), tried being an anorexic..it was fine, until i realized i got stuck in 132 lbs..then i tried the SouthBeach! but it was too long for me to accomplish and when i was in the 3rd week i almost gained all the weight! i tried Forever products..but i was cutting my calories too much..then i heard about Calorie shifting..and now Im here! :D even though ppl have told me that now Im OK.. (I DO still feel im very chubby specially in my arms and legs :( ) I feel i have to reach my GOAL! Today is my first day. So im supposed to be 110 lbs by Friday 25!!!! I hope this can work *__* But I have some questions also.. How the generator works?? Its supposed to create a personal pattern of menus every 2 weeks?? Or you can create as many as you please and select just one? Or it means it has an special order?? :S Also..in my 1st generated menu they told me to have Macadamia Nuts.. but its impossible for me to find some..I dont know how is in your version, but can I replace it with peanuts?? Well I gotta go! I hope I can reach my goal! :) Xiomi * |
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Hello everyone! I have been reading through all the comments, and have been inspired to try the fl4i diet. I have tried just about every diet, and lost weight, but have always gained it back.....I'd like to lose at least 40 lbs....hopefully I will get some encouragement here! I'm on my 6th day, so halfway through the first round. I've only lost 2ish lbs......I feel a bit discouraged, it's nowhere near 9 lbs.....we'll see.....Thank's ahead of time!!! |
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AK_Snowbird Distinguished Member 
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Hi Everyone, My name is Val and I am currently on day 6 of cycly one. I would like to loose about 15-20# I am in my mid 50's and the older you get the harder it comes off, so hoping this plan will work for me. I am also hoping this forum is more active than the last one I found. Also I see alot of food choices being used that aren't on the allowed list for instance are you sub ground turkey for turkey slices, HB for roast beef, pork for sausage etc? |
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xiomigirl Senior Member
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AK_Snowbird wrote: Hi Everyone, Hi Val! Im kinda new too, but what Ive learned is that everyone here subs with the most similar food, as long as its from the same category obviously...For example i sub sausage links with chicken sausage..at least where I live they look and theyre known to be different, but i guess its Ok..It depends! Perhaps you coul share your doubts in ''GENERAL DISCUSSION'' ppl there is very nice :D and may guide you to sub any food you cant find or have! God bless! |
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Desigirl New Member 
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i would like to introduce myself...i posted earlier in other threads, and nobody responded..i was looking for some support, maybe i can get it here..i am 31 year old female with a 2 year old daughter..married and living in nj..i am also a stay at home mom.. i am on day 7 today....was fine until yesterday...did not go crazy,but ate some things not on the vegetarian dg...like trail mix and atkins bar..i feel hungry...today was not a good day until just now..(that is why i decided to sit and write)...just ate a few things, that i should not have...i felt very hungry, so i rampaged the fridge.. anyways, i have 20-30 lbs to lose, i would like to before dec 08...i go to the gym, walk with the toddler in the stroller, take her swimming regularly...this past week, i could not make it to the gym, but i really plan on getting back on track with that tomorrow morning.. i feel if i go to the gym, i will feel better about staying on track with this diet also...i really am not liking the veg version..i had to do it since a few days this week i had to eat vegetarian for religious purposes..i don't know, i feel i can get more creative with my shrimp and chicken, and tuna selections than i can with eggs and nuts and cottage cheese.. hope to hear from some of you... |
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z1434eva Distinguished Member
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Hi Desi, It's nice to see a new name.....we all gather in the general discussion forum, and it is a lot of fun. I am on my second cycle, and seem to be doing pretty good so far. My first go around, I only lost 2 # and was getting discouraged. I am on day 5, and I think I've lost about 3 #...big diff!!! I am not on the veggie plan, so you may get some great ideas in the other forum. I have gotten great support....courage to not raid my fridge. I have 2 kids myself. They are 6 and 7. So I totally have my hands full, and I know how you feel. Just get right back on track, and keep plugging on! You will be at your goal before you know it!!! Best of luck!! |
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rendar55 New Member
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Heya all. I'm thinking about starting the FL4I diet. I'm 6'7", 22 years old, and 250ish pounds. I've only recently started to try losing weight, mostly by exercising, cutting out fast food, and adding a few healthy things to my diet. I was wondering how the FL4I diet would affect my drinking of apple cider vinegar and adding a spoon-full of ground flaxseed to breakfast and dinner. I would like to keep consuming these every day, but was mainly concerned about how they would affect the fruit and veggie days, or any other day, for that matter. Any information is appreciated. Thanks! Last edited on 6 August 2008 07:43 pm by rendar55 |
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AK_Snowbird Distinguished Member
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Hi Rendar, You shouldn't have a problem with the ACV or flax. I added ground flax to my fruit smoothie on fruit day & I actually think it helped keep my hunger at bay. If we can have Oil & Vinegar dressing why not just plain vinegar? I have gotten away from taking vinegar daily but I'm going to get back on track with it. Let us know when you start FL4I. Welcome & Good Luck |
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Gidget0105 New Member
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Hello All, My name is Angelina and I am very excited to start this diet. I gained 30lbs. during my pregnancy and have lost 20 so far, but I still need 10 more to go in order to get back to my pre-baby weight. Though of course I would like to lose 20lbs. I am 5' 1" and 135lbs. I am very skeptical about this, but figured I'd spend the $40 bucks on this instead of buying an outfit that I'll end up taking home and then realizing that I feel to fat to even ever wear it. Hope this works!  |
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xiomigirl Senior Member
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Hi Angelina! Welcome to the forums! I wonder how much time did you deal with those 30 lbs! And how did u get rid of them! 10 lbs are not so much! Ull definitely lose them if you stick to the plan :) Its a fact that the closer you are to your ideal weight, the harder to get there :O Congrats on investing the 40 bucks! Because after a couple of weeks, youll be sure you didnt waste them! |
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Gidget0105 New Member
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Thanks xiomigirl! Well, the first 20lbs. just sorta melted off after I had the baby. I couldn't work out right away since I had a c-section so I couldn't say that I actually put much effort into losing those 20. As for the next 20 that I want to lose, well it's been kinda tough and the lbs. aren't coming off anymore that's why I decided to try this. How long have you been doing the fat loss 4 idiots diet, if you are? I really hope this works. I am going to Vegas in october for a bachlorette party and I want to feel and look asgood as all the other "thin" girls that are going do. Thanks again, Angelina |
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xiomigirl Senior Member
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Hi there! Well, Im kinda new..Ive been on the FL4I for about a month..Im on my 2nd cycle right now, and I havent lost so much..but Im expecting that this time its going to work perfectly since im sticking to the plan very well :) Im 117 lbs now and I have to lose 7 more to be in my ''ideal weight''! For everyone else, it has worked very good and amazingly fast :) U can see the experiences in Success Stories and you can resolve any doubt in General Discussion where the members are more active :) Wow! So youre going to Vegas for a bachelorette party? hows that? sounds exciting! :) You definitely are going to be satisfied with the results !! Xio |
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WannaBeLittle New Member
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Just wanted to post to the site for the first time. I finished my first cycle and lost 6 pounds. I had my three cheat days and have tried not to go crazy. I don't think I have gained back more than one pound. I love the diet. Seems to be one of the easiest I have ever been on. I don't think I was hungry one day during the first cycle. I've been reading all the great posts and really appreciate everyone giving such great support, especially to the newbies. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Wannabe....congrats!!! Well done! Please come over to the general discussion and introduce yourself and post your success...we chat and encourage each other there! .SS |
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Gidget0105 New Member
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Hey Wannabe, Congrats on your first cycle! I am going to start my first cycle tomorrow. I am very eager to start this and to lose some of these pounds. Keep up the good work! Gidget ;) |
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armymedicmom New Member
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Hi everybody! I'm a newbie here, and just generated my first diet. Plan on getting my food shopping done this weekend and get started. As you can tell by my name, my son is in the military. During his longggggggg tour in Iraq, I didn't sleep, walked the floor all night long, and what do you do by yourself at 3:30 am and worried sick? The fridge became my best friend. I gained 50 lbs while he was there. I thought that when he came home, I'd get back to my normal routine and lose it all. NOT! I tried a few things that worked for me in the past, but couldn't stick to it this time. There is a support group for the Stryker soldiers. That's where I spent all my time talking with the other families, to help each other get through such a tough time. That's where I found the ad for FL4I. How ironic? The army is why I gained the weight, and now that's where I hopefully found a solution to lose it! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi AMMOM...welcome...come on over to the discussion and introduce yourself there! My son has done several foreign tours...two of Iraq...he now works in the Army Warrior Transition Unit that counsels the returning wounded. We also have the wife of a soldier just finishing bootcamp this week on the discussion. We understand!! You'll love all this diet and this great group of people from around the world...yes...we have several countries! It is fun! SS |
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Babs Senior Member
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Hi, dear FL4Iers! I am finishing off my first cycle started 9 days ago, and I hesitated until now to register here because I wasn't sure that I'd be doing the program long......having started the umpteenth diet in my lifetime! Stumbling upon this forum really saved the day for me, as for the first 4-5 days I didn't feel well at all, craved other foods, had trouble drinking the water, and generally starting to doubt if this was for me. But now, I must say, I feel better than I have in years, not hungy, not craving stuff, and energy levels starting to rise to an enjoyable level! I made it through the first cycle. And my weight scales show an impressive loss, although only after the 6th day. Before that it didn't look like much of anything was taking place. You know, this diet somehow looked attractive (although I also felt sceptical) because of all the years of research on nutrition and weightloss and problems of weightloss, and after all the countless failed attempts at Atkins, McDougall, South Beach, Weight Watchers, et al., this diet didn't seem too restrictive in calories, fats, or proteins. And I have known for several years now that I feel much better when I limit, not ban, carbohydrates. So this looked promising. Also really like the clear-cut guidelines and meal plans, and incorporating more fruits and veggies than most low carb diets. So, I registered for the Diet and started immediately. This forum is incredibly helpful - especially with recipes and ideas for creative use of the meal plan meals. Thanks so very much to those who have posted their useful experiences here! I am Texan from birth but have lived here in The Netherlands all of my adult life - children born and raised here. Hello to all, and I hope that this place does not disappear in the transfer to the Armstrong site! Babs |
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Annie Distinguished Member 
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Hi everyone! Guess I'd better stop lurking and start sharing. AK_Snowbird recently joined this forum and sent me a pm from another verrrrry slooooow FL4I board to tell me about this site. I was embarassed to tell her I'd been slinking around in here reading all your posts for a long time now. Actually probably for at least 3 of my 4 cycles. I have to tell you, this place you all have built here is so full of good information. I cannot imagine how I would have ever continued with this plan as long as I have without you. I'm an old girl - 58. I need to get rid of about 15 pounds. Although 20 would be nice as well! Just in the last few years my usually active metabolism has put on the skids. I put it to age, inactivity due to an arthritic back, change of BP meds., and an increasing love of food (!). As of this a.m. I have lost 4.6 of those pounds, this last cycle being the most successful with a loss of 3.2 pounds. (For which I give myself a gold star !)My husband and I have been eating a healthy, low-glycemic diet for many years now. It has served to get my cholesterol down and kept us both very healthy. I just needed something to jumpstart my metabolism. And the FL4I seems to be working, albeit much slower than for many others. All that said, I guess you're stuck with me for a while. I look forward to many interesting conversations. Cheers! Annie |
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AK_Snowbird Distinguished Member
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Welcome Annie, You'll find lots more support here!!! My youngest daughter lives in Lynnwood are you close to there? Be sure to join in and introduce yourself on the General Discussion forum as well Last edited on 15 August 2008 10:55 pm by AK_Snowbird |
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Annie Distinguished Member
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Thanks for the welcome, Val! Lynnwood is over by Seattle. We're about 230 miles inland from there, south and east of Yakima. We're in high desert and sometimes get no rain for months. Right now it's really hot here. 103 today and 105-107 expected tomorrow. I have two Shar-Peis and they keep looking at me, wondering when they can get to go for a good long run again. Not any time soon I'm afraid! I will definitely go over to General Discussion soon. I have gleaned so much knowledge from these folks - they're great! Have a good weekend! Annie |
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SngOfSlmn6_3 New Member
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I found this site after i found the fl4i site because I wanted to find out more info. See if it really works or not. You all seem so awesome, friendly caring and helpful. So anyway, I have been looking all over at everyones results and strugels and it totaly looks like it could be worth it if I work hard, now I just have to convince my hubby to let me spend the money and that I will not just be wasting it. But since I think I will be able to do that it might just take a little bit I will introduce my self. I am 28 years old and have almost always been a little over weight. With the ups and downs of marriage the past 8 years has seen to a consistant up in my weight. I have dieted on and off over the years just not very important to me. Although th inceasing numbers on the scale depressed me to no end. About 2 weeks ago i hit my highest weight ever. I am 5'2" and 251 lb. and I carry it below my waist and my chest (that the one thing I don't want to loose, I am perfectly happy with it and I am alittle scared to loose it) I am not realy that active, I nanny for the cutes 2 year old but I am biased because he is also my neiphew ( sorry aboyt the post he is curently taken one of my armes hostage while we snuggel watching a movie, so this is mostly a one handed posst) I thnk that I wold like to loose about 120 lb. but I would be happy even loosing 100 lb.. I feel different this time around. I have so manny health problems all ready that i dont need to add any more from weight issues and some of the ones i do have may improve with weight loss. Well movie is over it's time to go play. I hope I get to now you all better and I hope I can talk hubby into letting me try one more thing yet again. Betsey |
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Amjacie Distinguished Member 
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Hi Betsey. I'm glad you posted. A 112 pound loss was my goal and since march I have lost 61 of those pounds. If you can be dedicated and just eat what the menu says, I know you can have great success on this diet! |
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Eglaviel New Member
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Hello all...after lurking around on the forums for over a month...I felt it was time to buck up and actually join these great discussions!! My mom and I are actually doing FL4I together and we are half way through our 3rd cycle...day 5 to be exact! The first cycle I lost about 7-ish pounds and then on my second cycle...I lost what I'd gained on my 4 days off(4 instead of 3 because we were at a famliy reunion) and found myself at the exact same weight two ends of cycle weigh-ins in a row...a bit discouraging...as my mom continued to lose...but! I am staying on this because I know it works!! Oh and I read somewhere on here that you can have vegatables with meals...even if it doesn't list vegatables for that meal? Is that okay? Because it sure would help!!! So, just wanted to say hi...I feel like I already know you all to a certain degree just from reading all your posts!! |
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britbrat023028 New Member
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hello everyone. i am on my 5th day on my 1st cycle. and i havent seen anything change. im kinda getting upset over it. i know i shouldnt go on the scale and i might have my mom hide it on me just so i cant. im planning, well wanting to lose a total of 30 lbs. i am 142.5bls now and 5'2''. and at the age of 16. so yeah thats me! if any one can help by giving me any tips on speeding up my wieght lost or anything please let me know. thanx!!!! ~bryttni~ |
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Riahun New Member
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Hi everybody here:) Wow, seems like this is a vast site, couldn't even read a quarter of it, though I only just joined this morning. Will be spending a lot of time here I think.:) I am on day 8 of my first cycle and I am quite chuffed as I have lost about 5 lbs so far. I don't feel hungry, which is brilliant, it seems like a great diet so far.;) I am 5'5" and I am 156 lbs - well I was at the beginning of the cycle. I would like to lose 16 lbs, maybe a bit more, will see how I can manage. I only have 16 lbs to go now but when I started Cambridge Diet UK in March, I weighed a whopping 210 lbs!!! I did very well on the diet but I came to a stand still so I thought I would give this a go and seems to be working. Anyway, just wanted to say hi and wish everybody good luck.:) xxxxx Ria |
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Annie Distinguished Member
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Hi Ria! and Welcome! I think I saw you on that other board where I sometimes post too. You'll like this one a lot better. Much more active.As you've already noticed, lots and lots of members with many helpful suggestions along with great quantities of good information to be gleaned from all the past posts as well. Come on over to the General Discussion section and introduce yourself there too. You will be welcomed with open arms by many fine people. Cheers! Annie |
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skarlas991 New Member
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Hi everyone. I found this forum this morning and am loving it! My mom, my bro, and I are all on FL4I and have been losing more than a pound every day. I lost 5.6lb last 4 days and I haven't had any cravings!! My brother lost 8lb last 4 days but then he is much more overweight than me and my mom. Right now, I feel that this diet is way too good to be true and I'm afraid I'll wake up on my bed any minute. I really wanted to go back to school(as a senior in HS!) having lost weight this summer but was feeling miserable because I ended up gaining few pounds instead. And then 2 weeks before sept 2nd, I find this! Can't believe my luck. I hope it will go as well as people on this forum say. My goal is 115lb. 17lbs to go! (I miscalculated and wrote 27lb. Now that I corrected it, I'm more motivated than ever!) -Mindy |
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Riahun New Member
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Hi Annie, And thanks for your kind words. I already feel much better.:) I do remember reading your posts, well, someone called Annie.:) You are right, this forum does seem more active, it's a bit strange why the other one is so quiet. Nothing happens there for days on end. Mindy, I know how you feel. I have been looking for an alternative to my previous diet as well for about a month and I've only just found FL4I. Still better than never.:) Your losses sound wonderful, keep up the good work.:) Have a good day everybody, Ria |
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Sherryj7 New Member
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Hi everyone! I have recently joined FL4I . I am excited about this program and after reading your results, I have decided to try it. Looking forward to getting to know everyone on here. Blessings, Sherry |
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Amjacie Distinguished Member
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Hi Sherry and welcome! Glad to have you with us! |
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mogra New Member
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Hello everybody, I finished my cycle 1 before few days and was very happy with it. I left cycle 2 half way and took a break for 15 days as we had visitors. I found this forum accidenlty and am exicted - ( I usually posted msgs at fatloss4idiotsforum.com ). Warm hello from this newbie :) . Goal : 14 pounds to go ..... |
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funnymoody New Member
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Hello Everybody, I am new to forum and also diet. Anybody from India ? I looked at sample menu and it seems little tricky to find things like pinto beans, baked beans, soymilk, tofu ..... Warm hello to everyone in the forum. |
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Amjacie Distinguished Member
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Hi Mogra and funny! Welcome to the forum! Glad to have you both with us! And please join the general discussions were you will get many more welcomes and more people to help answer any questions you have! |
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SlimNeel Distinguished Member
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Welcome Mogra and Funnymoody: Glad you found this forum, you will love it here, so many wonderful people helping each other. For your questions, Yes, there are some people from India and as Amj suggested, if you post your questions in General Discussion thread, you with get more and quick replies. For your current questions: "I looked at sample menu and it seems little tricky to find things like pinto beans, baked beans, soymilk, tofu ....." For Pinto beans and baked beans, you can use black beans (whole urad dal), rajma i.e Kidney beans and mong beans. soymilk is milk made from soya nuggets, if its hard to find where you live, then just dont choose it, instead choose regular milk. Tofu is paneer made of soya milk. You can use skim milk (reduced fat) milk paneer to replace cottage cheese and also tofu. Soy chicken/beef are products available in US similar to soyabean pattie (just dont deep fry it- instead use non-stickpan and a few drops of oil). Hope this helps, Slim |
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MSWILEY87 New Member 
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Hello Everyone, I just wanted to post my progress and see how everyone was doing. There are alot of people I havent meet yet so hello to all and welcome. I started this diet to loose 30 pounds and just get in better shape. I look at it as a lifestyle change, because the book has so many tips that I can use my whole life. I like the fact that everything is ok in moderation is great and sooo true. I am currenty on day 7 of fat loss 4 idiots, this is my first cycle and I have had great progress im down 7lbs and still have 4 days to go. Today is pretty average I had a bowl of grapes for breakfast..will have turkey slices and milk for lunch, i replaced my peanuts and hard boiled eggs for a tuna sandwich hasnt made much diff but I wouldnt recommend it. We arent suppose to have bread, but im tired of eating it by itself. I will remove it off my list next cycle. I have alot more energy and I feel great. I will keep posting to let you know my progress. Is there anyone on day 7 of FL4I?? Last edited on 11 September 2008 05:09 pm by MSWILEY87 |
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changedn2008 New Member
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I'm a newbie, kinda sceptical, but need a change so am giving this a go, have downloaded my first 11 days. choosing a great time to start too! heading back to college, so this week is full of new starts, can't wait to start seeing those smaller numbers!  |
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Annie Distinguished Member
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Welcome Changed! Come on over to the General Discussion board. Lots of folks over there to get to know and lots of good support, too. Cheers! Annie |
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Joy75 New Member
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Hi everyone, My name is Joy and I just started the FL4I plan to lose 50 pounds. 30 from having my son and 20 I just gained on my own. I have a closet full of clothes that don't fit so I am very motivated! |
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changedn2008 New Member
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Hi Joy, we are in here for similar reasons!! i gained too with my son however i can't blame that much on him, i put mine all down to chocolate!! :) i'm new too, just on day 5, the General discussion board is where everyone seems to chat, and to be honest it been a god send to me! good luck and hope to see you over there soon! |
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Genika New Member
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Hey there all. I just found this forum by accident but can't stop reading it. Both my fiance and I are on this diet. We just started and are on day 7. So far I have lost 9 lbs and he has lost 10 lbs!!!!!! It is working incredibly well. Both of us have been sticking to it without cheating at all. The motivation for us is our wedding in February. My goal is to lose 50 lbs by then and I hope I can do it on this diet. I read on another page someone mentioned a veggie chili. If anyone knows the recipe can you please let me know!!!!!!!!!! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Genika...the chili recipe is on our fl4i recipe thread...just click on the fl4i at the top of this page and then the recipe thread. Also please come and introduce yourself on the General Discussion for fl4i...that is where we are all talking! Congrats to you and BF on your fantastic losses! We have guys on the discussion if he wants to chat with some! SS |
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Genika New Member
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Thanks Sunshine. I found it and I have chili cooking in the slow cooker right now. Veggie day is tomorrow and my fiance doesn't really like raw veggies, so this chili is going to be awesome for him!!! I will head over to general discussion now...thanks again!!!! |
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foxykat007 New Member
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Hi All... I'm new to this forum.. So Happy I found you guys... I purchased the FL4I 5 days ago... I wish I would have gotten the BC as well... Just so I could have the option of seeing what would better work for me. So far I have lost 3 pounds... I weigh 150.4... I was at 153.4 when I started... I'm 5'7" I would love to get down to 135. That's my goal. I am a fan of ice cream and cookies... aka SUGAR! I would love to adopt healthier eating habits and not obsess over sweets or CONSTANTLY be obsessing over my weight. I am 36 and I have always had a fast metabolism... But I am afraid that all my extreme dieting and food addictions/ eating disorders have taken their toll on me. I have always been an extremist... All or nothing... This is the first diet that I feel I have found a happy medium with this way of eating. I struggle with an eating disorder and I am desperate to become healthy... I live in LA, so the pressure is a lot different here than most places. I am not an "LA" girl, but I am a Cali girl. =) My only concern about the FL4I is the lack of fiber.... I have seen that others have had these same thoughts... I have been addicted to laxatives in my life and know that they aren't the healthiest things for me. I am looking forward to sharing my progress with you and looking forward to all of YOUR progress ~ YOUR INSPIRING PROGRESS!!! No matter where we are in this world.. We are all in the same boat... Food has gotten the best of us.. some worse than others... I just want to be healthy and have a healthy attitude/outlook when it comes to food. I'm at my wits end to finally overcome my battle. I'm sick of the shame I feel knowing the food has a certain power over me... And that when I start eating... sometimes I can't stop Bless you all.... Thanks for reading my thoughts. Last edited on 21 September 2008 05:12 am by foxykat007 |
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AK New Member 
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YOUNG KALAN~ As a young child i was big. Not HUGE, but big. People teased me thorughout middle school, but i NEVER had a low self esteem. I didn't care what anyone had to say. I was always interested in drawing, dancing, and singing since I was five. My full name is Kalan Aaron Smith. In 7th grade my named was switched to Aaron Kalan Smith ( hints the nickname AK(first and middle name initials)), but becaus everyone ept refering to me as Aaron Carter, it was switched back to Kalan Aaron Smith LOL!!! HIGH SCHOOL KALAN~ I have always had a good head on my shoulders and try my best in school. im just a laid back type of person who likes to hang out with friends and crack a lot of jokes. I joined a lot of clubs such as BSU( Black Student Union) which is a club that does a lot of community service. I also joined Link crew( who helps out incoming freshman) and was in a leadership class( which pretty much directs school events and mak sure everything goes well. On the side of that, I kept up with my singing, doing many performances and also danced.(krumping to be exact) where i went by the name of Brotha Ak, Kasi, or K9 and i did many performances wih that also. COLLEGE KALAN~ I currently am a freshman at San Joaquin Delta College planning to major in Computer Networking and Security, and minor in music. I play the keyboard and drums, and plan on learning how to play the guitar, sax, and many other instruments. I have a girlfriend that I met Sept. 20, 2007 while in summer school. She's has been with me ever since through ups and downs and till this day, we are happy to have each other. I also currently work at Jamba Juice and have been for 8 months( or somewhere aroudn that) Still, at this moment I am big. Im a 17 year old African American male who weighs 240 llbs and plan to lose at laest 30 by November 18th, which is my birthday. I don't really look THAT big(with clothes on) but believe me I am. lol But yea, im really just a lais back person who can take a joke and dish them out and Im very understanding and love to listen. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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AK, Foxy, Genika, Joy and Changed ...a big welcome to you all...you are in the right place to finally find success in dropping the extra weight and establishing healthy eating patterns! This way of eating(WOE) really curbs cravings and brings sanity back to eating You will lose fat...sometimes even when the scale is not moving soooo...measure yourselves...chest, waist , hips, upper arms, thighs...and choose a shirt and pants that are very snug now and try them on after each cycle to see how you are progressing. Most of us find that we are slimmer/smaller sizes at even higher weights than we have been in the past because of the fatloss!! You will find alot of laughs, support, tips and help on the discussion forum and good simple recipe ideas in the recipe thread...we are all in this together and share our ups and downs! Glad to have you with us!! You will love this plan and this place!! Thanks so much for sharing your stories!! Sunshine Last edited on 21 September 2008 11:36 pm by sunshine |
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Whatsitallabout New Member
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Hi everyone, Just wanted to introduce myself. I am female, 52, married 29 years with 14 year old twin boys and I have "let myself go", as my mother would have said In the last 10 or so years, I have piled on too many pounds. I must be sitting down more than I thought. I have a very busy life as an innkeeper. That means for 8 months out of the year I am at work 24/7 and I eat whenever I see food, on the run all day long. I am a grazer.A few weeks ago I was cruising the internet and saw the add for FL4I and clicked to see what it was all about. I bought the plan, because nothing else would help and because the menu looked fantastic. All the foods I like, nothing outrageous about it. I have lost, as of this morning 23 pounds and I am on my third round. The cheat days make me want to stay on the plan, I don't miss my usual bad things, I don't even taste the food that I cook for my people (I am a "gourmet cook". I don't even buy mayonaise, because I can make my own) I am doing great. errr.....I hope this isn't too boring. I didn't realize I was suffering from diahrea of the mouth this morning have a great day everyone, ra-ra *insert cheerleader smiley* Last edited on 23 September 2008 08:47 pm by Whatsitallabout |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome whatisitallabout....great to have you with us! Come on over to the discussion forum...click on fl4i at the top of page and then discussion....would love to have you join all of us there....many of us similar ages and stages in life! S S |
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pinkangel New Member
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Hi thought I would finally introduce myself after reading all your posts for a while now! I lost 10 pounds on the FL4I back in August but have since put 6 of that back on!! Would love to lose 10 to 14 pounds before my 40th birthday in November. So am planning to start new cycle on Monday. You all are such lovely people and so supportive of each other! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Pink Angel...come over to the discussion...we have some others just restarting...we'd love to have you introduce yourself and join us there...that is where we all are talking. S S |
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surisa New Member
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Hi, I am on day 8 of my first cycle. I am 5 pounds down. Does anyone know if you can sub cashews for macadamia nuts. I ran out and don't want to buy more because I have cashews left still. Please let me know what you all think! Thanks! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi surisa...yes, go ahead and sub in the cashews....they are very similar. congrats on your great loss...good for you! We are all talking on the discussion so you will find lots of good advice there! SS Last edited on 30 September 2008 03:46 am by sunshine |
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azza104 New Member
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Hi all; Is it a magic diet??? i didn't believe when i read about it, but actuallu after reading your posts i feel so anxious to start my 11 way trip. so tell me where could i find this diet and how i can join it? |
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Hi All! I have just bought the online generator and book after reading so many good things about the diet online. I have been dieting since November of 2007 and so far nothing I have tried has given me good or permanent results. I have at least 40 lbs to lose and I am hoping that this will finally be the plan to get me there!! I am starting the diet on Monday (going shopping tomorrow for the food!) Congratulations to everyone who has seen results and good luck everyone! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Azza and Aly....we do not sell the diet on our site...you can look on Ebay or google the name...it is called fatloss4idiots ....there are many sites that sell it online. We are a global group and have purchased it from many sources. |
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azza104 New Member
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hi; i wodered if i can use this package for me and my husband , or i should buy two packages for both of us? |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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You can use the same program for both of you...no need to purchase two....just each generate menus of your own choices or choose the same menu to follow....either way you can generate endless menu combinations for both of you. |
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I've been peeking into this site for a couple of years. I'm finally introducing myself after having had some luck with FL4I last year (maybe 15 lbs) which I regained after having sprained both of my ankles (same day different incidents) and taking a few vacations (crazy eating!). Enough of the excuses. I am on my 8th day of the 11 and have lost a very decent 5.4 lbs. I started at 144.6 lbs and I am 5'5. My initial goal at this point is to be 130 lbs after 4 cycles (8 weeks -14lbs may be over zealous for me but I'm willing to give it a go). I am a little nervous doing this during the holidays as this is the time of the year that I normally gain around 10 lbs, but I am hoping that utilizing this site will help me keep on the straight and "narrow". Any support will be a definate plus! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi and welcome VE...come on over to the discussion and join the fun and introduce yourself there...that is where we are all talking. Glad to have you joining us!! SS |
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ogswiss New Member
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Hey all just introducing myself... my name is swiss and i am 24yrs old from the bronx. I have packed on some weight over the years. i have a wife and a 8month old baby. together we put on weight during the pregnancy. before i started working out i was 180..now im 164. cant seem to get the rest of the weight off so i decided to try this diet. we run about 6 miles a few times a week, and i also lift weights in between. my wife has also went down from pregnancy weight to 149. my main concern about this diet is...am i going to loose body fat % or muscle %/bone density? usually with fast loss diets you loose about 80% muscle/bone density and 20% body fat as opposed to the opposite long term diet. today is my 2nd day on this diet and i went up 1.5lbs from yesturday :( anyways thanks to all who read :) Last edited on 11 November 2008 05:06 pm by ogswiss |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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H....welcome Swiss...please come over to the fl4i discussion site and introduce yourself there...that is where we all talk and give suggestions and answer questions. We have a great guy...Larry(llalonde... avatar watermelon) who is a lifter and can give you some great ideas on how to make this work with lifting plus he knows alot about the HIT program and has had great success building muscle and while losing fat and even cutting down on the workouts to get there. He is always happy to help everyone...and you can PM him also. SS |
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sha New Member
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Haaay! My name is Sha and i'm a new member... i wanna lose about 22 pounds, now my weight is about 130 pounds and my height is 5'1.. I really would like to try this diet!! Can anyone tell me if this diet is good for me? (please don't mind my english..it's bad..i'm from Holland!:$) |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hi Sha we have a forum member who is an NLer who loves this plan! You will find her on the discussion under BABS....she is on holiday presently. Everyone must choose which plan works best for them...but we have all had great success with this one....and it is very portable for work or school meals. There is only bread on one day each 11 day cycle...the rest is beef, ham and poultry, fish, eggs, cheeses, veggies, fruits, beans, salads, oatmeal and frozen yogurt dessert. After 11 days on the plan you have three days off to eat anything you want. tot ziens! SS |
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glenlea New Member
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Hi, my name is Goretti and I am new here. I purchased this about a month ago, tried it for a couple of days and then my family did not help at all and sabotaged my efforts. However this time I am determined to succeed. I am on day one of the diet. I am abit confused though. Reading through the posts I have come across people saying there is more than one version of the diet. Huh?? I thought I had got the latest one.Also I read a few recipes which sound great but for example there was a fab one by a chef of eggs with salad. I thought you could only have the eggs? Can I add other things to my menu? I have printed out 3 diets and for my eggs, the only thing I am allowed with them is ham or cashews. Also there was alot of beans on the recipes? I have only got pinto beans on my list of allowed (or choice available on the diet generator) beans. Can someone explain these to me as I would like to make this as enjoyable as possible. That way I know I will stick to it. Thanks. |
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glenlea New Member
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Hi, can someone also help me with the water issue. I do NOT like water. And if its chilled, thats even worse. I cant afford to buy bottled water as its about $2 per bottle (500mls) here in NZ and I hate tap water. I drink decaf coffee or tea or lemonade usually. I don't drink diet sodas etc as I think they are very unhealthy with the aspartame in them. So my problem is, how am I going to drink so many glasses of water a day when I don't like it? I have tried lemon or lime in it also. Any suggestions?? Thanks |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Kia ora Glenlea. Keep at the water. You can probably find a cheap water filter jug on Trademe or at The Warehouse which will save you $$$ in the long run. Get a water bottle and carry it with you EVERYWHERE. Aim to drink a glass when you first get up (before you wake up and realise what you are drinking ) then try to get a glass in every few hours. Build up to the ten glasses. Four for a couple of days, five the next etc etc. You will get used to water, eventually. If you drinking lemonade (I assume you mean Sprite type drink) then you drinking A LOT of wasted calories.There are a couple of versions of the diet but they are essentially the same. You will have bought the new improved version It is luck what combination of foods you get. Sometimes you will get eggs and salad at which point you can make that yummy recipe. I will quite often regenerate the plan till I get a majority of combinations I like. Cheers Joanne |
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Hello Glenlea and welcome! Why don't you join us at the General Discussion thread where there are more people and you can get more help with your questions. The water is VERY important, and I cannot stress this enough. There is no getting around drinking it, and it is one of the things that MAKES this diet work so well. You can drink tea, Crystal Light, or whatever form (under 10 calories) that help you to meet your daily quota. But drinking the plain water is what will work best for your success. So try to drink as much water as you can and then fill in the rest with the other forms mentioned. I did not like water at all when I started this diet, so I totally can relate you how you feel. But now, I drink 10 glasses a day without any problem. I think Sunshine said she put vanilla extract in her water sometimes, and I personally can drink more if I have it with lemon. I am sure you can find a way to work it out for you. Also, if you read the list of condiments allowed, you can make your meals a bit more exciting. Salsa is one of the allowed condiments so you can add that to your eggs, or chicken, etc. BBQ sauce is another, etc., etc. But if you need more help with the menu items so you can stick to the diet and make it work for you, please come to General Discussion thread, like I said, and we can all share with you things we have found to make things easier. This diet is FANTASTIC, really! Good luck and hope to see you in General Discussion soon! |
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Hi, I'm another newbie. I've just downloaded the program so haven't started yet. Have to wait until payday to buy all this new food. I'm only 5'2 and over 230 lbs. Kids are long behind me but I'd like to be able to move with the grandchildren and show my dogs myself instead of hire a handler. Big dogs - Otterhounds. Puppy turned 8 months old today and she's already over 80 lbs. One question I have, why only fresh fruit? I live in Canada, it's winter!! I'm not much of a fruit eater anyway, but love raspberries and they're not on the list. Fruit day is going to be brutal. Vegetable day will be easier than fruit day and I don't eat lots of those either, but at least they're more filling. We've started a Biggest Loser contest at work which is why I've finally decided to really try something. No willpower at all and I don't care what Dr. Phil says about that subject. I've been reading the different topics, especially fruit day and I think you guys just might be able to help me. Peggy |
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Wolf - Welcome! Please come to the general discussion thread on this forum where most of us congregate. You will find many people there who can give you ideas for fruit and veggie days. One of our "distinguished members", Larry, also lives in Canada. He has been with us for over 1 year now, and is maintaining wonderfully. I am sure he can help you out with what he does for fruit in Canada. I am looking forward to seeing you there. This diet is awesome and the support here is fantastic! |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Welcome Wolf My number one rule is to follow the diet exactly as detailed. No deviations. My number two rule is unless life happens and you can't. I try to eat fresh fruit as much as possible but sometimes there's is not a lot of choice so I will use tinned or frozen. I am careful to make sure though that it has been processsed "healthily" and does not have added sugar.Good luck on your weight loss journey. Joanne |
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Meemers New Member 
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Okay - I've taken the plunge, and now I'm on board. I just downloaded my 11-day diet, and I think this is definitely something I can do! I've read a number of your success stories, and I'm motivated to be one of you...a success!! Here goes... |
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webfairy Moderator
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Meemers - WELCOME!!! We are glad to have you on board!!  Here is to much success for you! Please come to FL4I General Discussion thread so everyone can "meet" you. |
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vinny New Member
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hi, um.. i'm new to this, can anyone show me what this is exactly and how i'm supposed to get started? |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi vinny. We are a forum for support of the Fat Loss 4 Idiots diet. We are not affliated in any way with this diet itself. We are just a bunch of people who are doing, or have done the diet, and we come together to help each other. You can go the the diet's site to purchase the diet, read all the information, and then we can help answer your questions. The diet is called Fat Loss 4 Idiots so it is that name .com. I have also seen it on ebay for sale which will save you money. |
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poof60 Senior Member
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I am a really new member, as a matter of fact, I have my meals printed, my groceries are bought and I start monday morning. I will say, that when I first looked at the menu I wondered what I was in for. My first meal is peanuts, tuna plate and green vegetables. That is a good one, my next meal is roast beef and milk, then ham slices and sausage links. I am a little scared, what can you do with this. Is this all I can eat for the meal or can I throw in some vegetables or anything to make it a little interesting!!!! I am trying to be brave, but!!!! I can really use all the help I can get, thank-you |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi Poof and welcome! If you come to our General Discussion thread, you will meet all the others and we can help you with that menu. Since you haven't started yet, you can always go back and regenerate another menu. Some of us will hit the back button when generating a menu and keep doing that until we get meal combinations we like. Otherwise, look at the information after the menu that tells you what your allowed condiments are to see what you can do with the food. You cannot add anything besides what is on the menu, and what is allowed as condiments. If you stick to this diet, you WILL lose. It is a fantastic diet. So please join us at this thread http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/214-234.html We will help you with the meals. Also you can check the recipe section of the FL4I forum and get some ideas. But ask if you are unsure because some have posted recipes that are not necessarily diet friendly but more for cheat days. Sharing ideas for sprucing up the menus really helps us stick to the diet. Many here on the forum have great ideas to make the meals more appetizing and they are within diet guidelines. |
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poof60 Senior Member
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thank-you webfairy, I'm heading there now. |
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weightloss junky New Member
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Hi there, I am new to this diet. I am on my 11th day of my first cycle. It has work amazeingly for me. So far I have lost 13 lbs. I feel great and I feel more alive then ever. Every diet I have tried has failed. But with this one I am happy. I eat things I like. I learned to eat to satisfy and thats a wonderful feeling. No Chest Pains and eating so much that I must sit down and relax. I can get up from the table and do things I wannna do. I have been takeing the Acai-Berry Pills. I been on them for 6 days and they make me feel good. I think they are helping to take the weight off. I am however worried about the cheat days cause I am missing eating sweets. I am going to be careful and eat the best I can without going over board. I am pleased so far. Whoever come up with this is great!!! also I been doing some excerise aerobics |
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hzleyez86 Senior Member 
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wlj- i just started the acai yesterday... i would love it if it helps weightloss but i'm really just trying to have more energy, have you noticed any more energy since taking it? |
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Dreamsbride New Member 
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HI everyone. I have just started the fl4i and am on day 5 of the first cycle. I have alot of weight to lose as starting weight is 246 and im 46 years old. Im joining this forum to get support and ideas for the generated diet as I have been at a loss for something to do with my slices of turkey and ham for my meal... IF you could see me sitting at my desk dangling a slice of turkey in front of me thinking now isn't this the interesting meal you would know i need help. I have been having the better sounding meals for breakfast and dinner and the meals such as peanuts for one meal and ham and turkey for the other....... And am dreading the day where it says bowl of green beans....how much green beans can you eat before your full? or gag? Im off to the recipe part of this forum now and any ideas would be awsome. Looking forward to being part of this forum. D |
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Hello dreambride! Welcome! Please join us in the general discussio thread so you can meet everyone and get meal ideas. Go here: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=214&forum_id=3&jump_to=114182#p114182 So many others on the forum are full of great ideas and I am sure you will find some you love. See you there! |
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Stef New Member
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Hi, I'm a new member. Today is my sixth day of my first cycle. I'm hoping someone can help me because I'm really discouraged. I've been following this plan to a T and walking 30 to 40 minutes a day on my elliptical machine, and I haven't really lost any weight. Yesterday morning when I weighed myself, I had lost three pounds. I figured three pounds in five days was pretty great. This morning when I weighed myself, I was back up 1.5 pounds. So in six days, I've lost a pound and a half. Honestly, I feel like crying. I'm getting married in September, and besides exercising and eating small food in healthy portions (which is essentially I think what this diet is) I don't know what to do. So I definitely think it's awesome that so many of you have found success. I'm just really upset right now and now sure whether I'm going to follow this into the second cycle. If anyone has any advice, I would appreciate it so much! Thank you! |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi Stef and welcome! I Pmed you. |
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argyle New Member
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So, I am on Day 10 of Fat Loss 4 idiots. I have read all of these testimonials from you guys who have had awesome results. I have weighed myself and it doesn't look like I've lost any pounds, but my scale is also a little screwed up. But I'm just worried that I might have done a few things wrong. Is it ok to put a little milk in your coffee? And also, what if I've been having about a glass and a half to two glasses of wine a night instead of the one? Would these things make a huge difference? I've been following every other rule exactly and been drinking TONS of water a day. |
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Hi argyle and welcome . I have no idea how you could have not lost anything by day 10. Although adding milk to your coffee is not allowed and the extra wine is extra calories, there is no way only those two things would cause you not to lose anything. Why don't you come to the general discussion thread, and introduce yourself to the others, and let's talk about what exactly you have done, so we can figure out what you are doing wrong. Give us some information about yourself (age bracket, etc.). Are you drinking all the water (80 oz day), spacing your meals apart (at least 2.5 hours), not eating ANYTHING in between meals, eating exactly what your menu states without adding anything except what condiments are allowed, etc? These are really important. Hopefully we can help you figure it out as something is definitely wrong. I hope to see you there! General discussion link: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/214-241.html |
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Tanya S New Member
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Hello, my name is Tanya, and this is my first day with the diet. I am a stay at home Mom of 3, and i babaysit. I am hoping this is going to work, I feel o.k, other than it will be a little awkward at mealtimes with my family, when I am not eating the meals that I have prepared. Will I ever be able to do that? Will I ever eat Christmas dinner again? Do I just eat small meals hours apart it normal life? I hope to lose about 80 pounds, we shall see. |
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Hi Tanya! This diet is really great. You can do it! You don't have to eat small amounts. You eat until you are satisfied. You don't want to be hungry. You space your meals apart so it works for you... 2 1/2 - 4 hours apart and drink the water in between. It isn't hard and it works! And of course you can eat Christmas dinner again. You just learn to eat until you are satisfied and you get a new appreciation for eating healthier. You can still eat what your family eats on the cheat days, and while on your cycles you can make meals around what your menu is, but add extras (potatoes, rice, etc.) for the family. You do not want to eat in between meals as that sabotages the diet. You will see how it goes. Come meet with us in the general discussion thread, and ask whatever you would like to know. There are many others that can help you with ideas and recipes. See you there! |
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Hi Tanya...welcome...do come to the discussion and ask questions! For instance tonight I made a whole roasted chicken in the crockpot with lemon and herbs. I served the family stovetop stuffing with dried cranberries, gravy, sweetpotato and I had chicken and cottage cheese. I try to make things that I can just have part of or else I eat first so I am not hungry and totallly satisfied and have a cup of tea with the family at dinner. You will adjust...just hang in there! SS |
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rhicel New Member
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Hello everyone. I have recently started this diet for the first time and am on Day 4. so far I have followed it strictly and not found it too difficult. I don't own scales and don't plan on weighing myself as I feel it will depress me. I can tell by how my clothes fit me if I've lost anything. My main question for the moment is can insulin-dependent diabetics use this diet? I am long-term Type 1 and until this morning haven't had any problems. But I am having a small hypo at the moment and had to have a small bit of apple juice to pick my sugar up as I need to do my daily exercises at some point. I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone with diabetes who has used this diet successfuly. I'm 44, live in the UK, and need to lose approximately 20kg (40 pounds). so far I don't feel as if I've lost anything. Thanks for any insight etc., really glad to have found this forum as the diet itself is useless at providing any help, which actually really annoys me!!! Maria |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Rhicel Hi from London (Hammersmith girl via New Zealand ).I don't think anyone here can or should be able to advise you about whether this diet is suitable for diabetics. That really is the domain of your GP. What may work for one person might not work for another Sorry to sound like a nag but only your GP would know your history. Take a copy of your diet and go see them. There should only be a waiting list of a week or so . Your GP may even suggest work-arounds for things they think may cause problems (eg fruit or vege day).Good luck Joanne Last edited on 28 January 2009 11:23 am by StillaKiwi |
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rhicel New Member
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Hi Joanne I'm in Hove, near Brighton- thanks for your reply. (and an expat Yank to boot!) I have already discussed this with my diabetic specialist and he said in theory it sounds fine. What I want to know is if other diabetics have tried it and found it worked. Fruit day went fine for me, just needed a minor adjustment to my insulin intake due to the sugar content. Thanks again, hope someone else with personal experience can comment on this. Maria |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Hi Maria Well in that case come on over to the main thread http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/214-246.html (hope that link works). This is where most people hang out so you should get a better response to your answer. Cheers Joanne |
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bailey24 Senior Member
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Hi I think maybe I'm doing this wrong I posted already in the general discussion thread but now I saw this thread. I am new, I am on my second cycle with a little break, lost 9 pounds before a December vacation gained back 2 and then got sick and gained back another 1. I am on fourth day of my second cycle I have lost 2.5 so far. I am happy because I know that it is still working for me. I want to lose another 10 pounds. well. just wanted to say hi to other new people. Last edited on 30 January 2009 06:26 pm by bailey24 |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Bailey!You are fine posting in the discussion as that is where we all talk...glad you introduced yourself! SS |
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TheNewInstantClassic New Member
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Ladies and gentlemen, good evening! Allow me to introduce myself and give a little bit of a (hopefully) inspiring tale... A little bit about myself. My name is Steve, and I found this diet back in December of '08 with the Beyond Calories package. Before I started, I was 5'10", 284 lbs, and rising. My doctor at the VA was telling me that if I were to continue the trend I was on, I wouldn't live past my mid-30's. My top drawer in the bathroom is filled with 20+ different medications that I have to take for blood pressure, migraines, and other assorted ailments that I blame on being overweight - that I blame on myself, obviously. I had no self esteem, zero drive to make myself better, no motivation for living in general. Being overweight, losing a fiance, having no friends, etc, can take its toll on a person, and after awhile, you become stagnant, comfortably numb with where you are. (Wait... wasn't this supposed to be inspirational, Steve?! Just wait, would you!! It gets better!) Eventually, I half-wayed my way onto the internet to try and find different diets and exercise regiments to do and lose weight. One by one, they all failed. I put everything I had into every one of them, and they all failed. Calorie counting seemed too restrictive, the workout programs were geared towards the folks that already HAD six-packs, and the diets were for rabbits!!! WHAT THE HECK?! How's a guy in my position supposed to win here? I need man food, but I need to lose. I'm on my last ROPE here.... Low and behold, I stumbled across FL4I. I looked at it, and thought to myself... "Meh, it's another diet. This is the LAST ONE I'M TRYING THOUGH!" I ordered it with Beyond Calories and read through everything. Beyond Calories appealed to me a bit more, since the prep time for everything was minimal and the food was actually pretty dang decent! I modified its 10-day schedule into an 11-day diet to make time for a lax weekend off, got my ingredients and food, and began on January 12th, 2009... And now, a month later... I was 284 pounds on my start date of Jan. 12th. I am now sitting pretty at 244 lbs. on Feb. 12th on the Beyond Calories diet! Keep in mind, I am nowhere near my goal yet, but I am well on my way, and the dieting gets easier by the cycle. I don't use any special seasonings, all my foods are eaten plain. I don't walk, but I DO participate in yoga ( a specific type of yoga, too ) 3-5 days a week, and that's MUCH better than the walking suggestion. I've gone from a size 48 jean size to a size 42, and even those are starting to get bigger... Guys, I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW ABSOLUTELY HAPPY I AM WITH THIS DIET!!!!!!! My self esteem has SKY-ROCKETED, people are actually COMPLIMENTING me on the way I look, I can go out in public and feel confident that people enjoy being around me because of my new positive attitude... The effects are 100-fold, and life changing. I TRULY hope that within the next three - six months, I can have some GREAT before / after pics for you guys. I have the before pics on my cell phone, but I have some family pics where I'd look about as bad anyway (you'd get the idea). For those looking at 40 lbs in one month as bad, don't. I'm NOT starving, I'm working out regularly and not overdoing anything, I'm not taking any fat burners / illegal substances / etc. I follow every guideline in Beyond Calories like it was religion, no straying, and thus the reason for what I consider to be a great step in the right direction!! =) Forty down, seventy easy more pounds to go! I would love to get to know everyone else in here as well! I hope that you all can help me in my journey to reaching my goal, as well as I can help you. It's all about support from what I see in here, and everyone seems like they're EXTREMELY nice. =) Cheers, and make 2009 yours! "The NEW Instant Classic" Steve Anderson Minneapolis, MN |
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Welcome Steve! You are doing great...as you already know! The BC and Diet Generator on FL4I work! Glad to hear you are having so much success with BC! Come on over to the general discussion for FL4I and introduce yourself there too...in fact please share your inspiring story...that is where we all talk and I'm sure many will want to pick your brain on what you are doing and not doing while on the BC. We all help each other and share our tips for success! Thanks for sharing your story and we will enjoy watching you reach goal!! See you on the discussion thread! Sunshine |
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TheNewInstantClassic New Member
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Ms. Sunshine, I'd me honored to join y'all over there! I'll be on tomorrow night and share - or summarize, whichever comes first - my story over there, too. =) Reading what you guys have to say over there would help me figure out different ways of approaching my diet as well, so everything works out for the best. Thank you for your kind words, and we'll see you over in the GenDis! "The NEW Instant Classic" Steve Anderson Minneapolis, MN |
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sst3ab New Member
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Hi there... My name is Karen and I am a newbie!! I am from a small town on the west coast of Canada, right where some of the 2010 winter Olympic events will be held. I have 4 step children that I love as much as if I had given birth to (minus the added stretch marks!!), 3 biological daughters, and a total of five grandbabies!! My weight has always been a struggle, and like most of you I have tried it ALL. In my early thirties I became bulimic almost to the point of death. I was going through a nasty divorce (is there a good divorce??) and thought the only thing I could control was my own body. I realized later I was completely out of control. I would eat very little, and then take laxatives. Lots of them. Before i finally stopped, I was taking 30 a day. I still have problems to this day with sluggish bowels, so I take large amounts of fibre. My weight stayed fairly level for a few years at a healthy weight, but then i quit smoking, and moved, and changed jobs. So far this diet has been working for me. I can't believe I can have bacon!! Anyways, guess thats more than you need to know about me LOL!! Just wanted to say hi and let you all know you are really inspiring...thanks!! Karen  |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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SST...glad you could join us.... thanks for sharing your story..you are in the right place and on the right plan! You will love it here...lots of support, compassion, good tips, laughs and camaraderie! You will find great success...it is very doable and you won't feel hungry or deprived! S S |
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TheNewInstantClassic New Member
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sst, welcome! I'm Steve ( a non-white sox fan... AHEM! ), and I look forward to hearing more from ya! A definite congratulations is in order for you since the diet is working for you, and here's to your future successes! KEEP ME INSPIRED! I can't wait to hear what you're doing with your techniques to reach your goals. They'll be of great help to not only everyone here, but to me as well. Stay focused, and keep pushing!!!"The NEW Instant Classic" Steve Anderson Minneapolis, MN |
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Tapwater New Member
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Hello to everyone , my name is Tom and I’m 19, I’ve been sneaking around this website for a while and came across FL4I, I bought it and am just finishing day 2, it's a fruit day. I never knew how filling fruit was!!! I guess cause I never really had more than 1 piece at a time. i currently weigh 89kg (196lbs) and would like to lose 15-20kg (33-44lbs) i have already lost 44lbs on my own and fit into my high school uniform again, yes i gained and lost 44lbs in 12 months, woopie, im not really happy about it cause i know how it feels to be the me right now, i was like this all through high school, im sick of itI have got a quick question: I have this music festival (soundwave) to go to next Saturday. I wont be able to take my own food and would like to drink alcohol and I will likely drink a lot of it, so should I just start my cheat days early, postpone a day or skip a day? |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Kia ora Tom If my calculations are right you started Saturday-ish, so next Saturday would have been about your 8/9 day. If that is correct then I say have the Saturday / Sunday as cheat days, enjoy them, drink too much (which is highly recommend in the Brisbane sun ) and then back on the diet on Monday with day 1.However this should be the exception rather than the rule. The diet works best the closer you follow it. Of course events (birthdays, weddings, rugby matches) happen but try, as you have done here, to plan for them. Enjoy the festival. Joanne |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi Tapwater and welcome! I would agree with StillaKiwi. I would just do that weekend as your cheat weekend and start the new cycle on Monday. Good luck to you and have fun at the music festival! |
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Tapwater New Member
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Thank's StillaKiwi and Webfairy, i will just have the weekend as a cheat weekend and start fresh on monday. i should have started monday anyway so every second weekend would be a cheat weekend, makes so much more sense. |
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TheNewInstantClassic New Member
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Cheat weekends... *drool......***** Mine's coming up this weekend!!! WOO HOO!!!! Tapwater! Welcome to the forums. Seriously good to have another bro on the team!! I know how you feel with weight loss/gain/loss/wtf/maintain/loss/gain/gain/gain/loss/gain/loss, and it gets frustrating. EVERYONE in here is supportive and ready to answer every question you have, so don't hesitate to seek us out for anything, even beyond the diet itself. Cheers, and happy dieting! "The NEW Instant Classic" Steve Anderson Minneapolis, MN |
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Tapwater New Member
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Thank's Steve and congratulations on loosing 40 lbs in 1 month that’s awesome!!! |
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purrsia Member 
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Welcome to the new you Tapwater! Congratulations on joining us. I'm also on my first cycle and it's BRILLIANT and so easy. And this forum makes it even more so - it's like having a whole bunch of friends to support you and to turn to if you have questions or are slipping a bit. I have a question for the group. How young do you think is too young to do this diet? I ask because I have a daughter who is 14 but physically big - much taller than me, 5' 8". She is about 15/20lbs overweight and REALLY unhappy about it because from what she says she obviously gets teased at school (where most of the girls are annoyingly skinny) and she is definitely comfort eating to cheer herself up. I see this as the start of the nightmare that I have lived with for all these years and I desperately want to help her to start to understand things like not eating when you're full etc etc. Do you think it would be really irresponsible of me to introduce her to FL4I? x |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Hi Tom Come join us at http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/214-259.html. This where most everyone hangs out including our two token males Steve who you've met and Larry.Cheers Joanne |
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missmix New Member 
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I also posted this in the general intro section, but just wanted to say hello Hello everyone! My name is Megan and I am 21 years old. I have been thin pretty much my whole life. At 19, I put on a little weight but it redistributed nicely into little curves. You see, other than being chesty I had none (lol). Then sometime between April 08 and now, I have spiked up. My highest was probably 142 lbs ( I am five-two) and I am currently at about 133. I want to lose about 10 lbs. I tried the Fat Loss 4 Idiots diet and totally crashed after day two, which is the "fruit day". It made me VERY sick- headaches, dizziness, nausea, stomach cramps.. and now today (which should be day three) I can't stay out of the bathroom I have gone through a lot of stress the last few years, and went from a stress-starver to a stress-eater. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism about 2 years ago, and am also hypoglycemic. Losing weight was never a problem for me. If I put on a little bit, I was able to work out a week or two and drop it. My metabolism feels like it has died and it is much harder to lose weight. Anywho, I figured coming here for some support might help, so I am really looking forward to meeting everybody! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Miss! Sorry you had such a tough time with fruit day! The first couple of cycles I had similar issues. If your blood sugar is already iffy...this can be hard. I no longer get headaches and can go hours between meals on regular DG days....my blood sugar has stabilized on this plan...I used to have to eat every two hours or I got a headache! Many of us have found that adding cinnamon to our fruit salad or cooked fruit stabilizes our blood sugar on fruit day. Some have tomato soup for a meal. The other thing you can do is have some nuts as soon as you start to feel like your blood sugar is dropping on fruit day. Fruit day is cleansing...and the first cycle or two can be more cleansing since we are coming off of unhealthy eating. If you need to you can always start off fruit day with a protein meal of plain eggs....each person is unique...most of us have found our bodies have adjusted...but better to make a small tweak to your menu than be ill! One more thought...if your diet was high in carbs...you may have a yeast overgrowth in your body...fruit/sugar would fuel your reaction...but the rest of the diet is very low in sugars so you should feel great on the other days. S S |
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BabycakesRenee42 New Member 
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Hi! I am new and I have gone through one cycle already! I lost ten pounds the first cycle and truthfully, it felt like an eternity. I switched to beyond calories and today is my second day of that cycle. I am hoping for MAX results. I currently weigh 148 pounds and I want to be around 108-110 by April 15. I am only 5'1. I have a problem with the whole exercise thing because I walk at school all day, then i walk three holes of golf and then some monday-thrursday. friday, saturday, and sunday I do walk away the pounds with leslie sandsone. I really would appreciate some tips on how to get the Max results. I really am tired of being overweight, and the sooner I can reach my goal. The better. |
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Overload New Member
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Hi, I'm male, 6'1" and 300lbs+. I hope to lose 50-60 lbs in the near term with an ultimate goal of losing 120 lbs+. While I'm skeptical about the 120lb weight loss, I think 60 lbs is achievable so if I'm under 250lbs by the end of the year, I'll consider it a milestome. Joined FL4I a few days ago and am on day 4 of the first cycle. Its a little difficult determining the 'correct' amount of food per meal, but I'm keeping a diary http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=8423&forum_id=31&jump_to=120560#p120560 as I go along with personal tips on fine-tuning the amounts. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Overload...WELCOME! Come on over to the discussion thread and introduce yourself there too...everyone is there talking! I think you will find this plan very doable and simple to follow! Many of us reached our first goal and then were so encouraged that we set a new goal...this program is about HOPE...because it works! Sunshine |
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LM0601 New Member 
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Hi Everyone! I just started this plan yesterday so I am on day two. I read so many great things about this diet and I just had to give it a try. I have done so much in the past to lose the weight only for the scale not to budge and then I quit. Is the first day the hardest? I am doing the regular plan first, but I felt so hungry all day yesterday. I could not sleep last night as my stomach was hungry. I might not have eaten enough during my four meals. Any advice? Will this get easier? I am on my fruit day and loving it so far. |
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webfairy Moderator
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Welcome Overload and LM0601! Overload - After a few days... maybe even one cycle, you will "get" the satisfied vs. full difference. Ask us any questions, if you need help. Good luck to you! LM0601 - If you were still hungry, you may not have eaten enough. It is really important to find that place where you are satisfied after eating, but not full. Eating too much can thwart your weight loss. Eating too less can make you hungry, and you may give up on the diet. This diet works. If you eat until you feel satisfied then drink all your water in between the meals, it should help to keep you satisfied between meals. Make sure you don't drink water too close to your meal time as it can give you a false sense of "satisfied". You want to be satisfied by the food. Just hang in there for this first cycle. It definitely gets easier. Day 2 is hardest for many as fruit is not as sustaining as protein. Others have a problem with veggie day (which is my fav). I am glad to hear you are loving fruit day so far. It was my toughest. But it is only 1 day, and if you picked the "deli sandwich" from your meal choices, you can hang in there and enjoy the best deli sandwich you will probably remember. Think of fruit day as a sort of detox day. Like I said, it is only 1 day, and you CAN do it! The results are worth it! Overall, I didn't feel like I was dieting due to all the meal choices. I had never seen a diet with bacon, roast beef, sausages, cheese, etc. And I felt good, and energetic while I was on this diet. I loved the food and I loved most of my meals. Some combos were weird, but I found out you could click the back button on the diet generator and regenerate a new diet (as many times as needed) with combos I did like, if that happened. Make sure you do this when you first generate your 11 day menu, though... not after you already started a cycle. Why don't you both come over to the general discussion thread of FL4I and meet everyone. We all congregate there and others can answer any questions you may have. Let us know if you need any help on recipes or food combos. Good luck to you! |
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Overload New Member
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I'm in Cycle 1 (Day 7) as well and based on my experience so far, you're going to go back and forth being very hungry to 'quite full' until you figure out what a good portion size is for each of the mean components. I'm handling this by keeping a log of exactly what I eat and I also add comments if the portion size made me too full or left me very hungry for the next meal. I think the idea is to get to the next meal fairly hungry - but not starving. If you get into a situation (hopefully not more than once a cycle) that you just HAVE to eat, GO AHEAD AND EAT. Grab a fruit (apple, pear). If that doesn't help, eat 8-10 salted cashews 1-2 AT A TIME. Chew the cashews until they become a complete paste before swallowing. This works for me (other nuts may work for you (walnuts, macadamia nuts etc). If you starve yourself, you'll drop this diet very quickly. I think it is better to lose 5 lbs and 'live' to complete another cycle (and another) than to drop 10 lbs and swear that you'll never go on a diet again. LM0601 wrote: Hi Everyone! I just started this plan yesterday so I am on day two. I read so many great things about this diet and I just had to give it a try. I have done so much in the past to lose the weight only for the scale not to budge and then I quit. Is the first day the hardest? I am doing the regular plan first, but I felt so hungry all day yesterday. I could not sleep last night as my stomach was hungry. I might not have eaten enough during my four meals. Any advice? Will this get easier? I am on my fruit day and loving it so far. Last edited on 26 February 2009 08:05 pm by Overload |
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webfairy Moderator
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Overload - I agree with you when you say "I thinks is better to lose 5 lbs and 'live' to complete another cycle (and another) than to drop 10 lbs and swear that you'll never go on a diet again." People should do what will make it work for them. It's funny how people can have such different experiences on the same diet. I found FL4I very easy to follow. I only felt hungry on fruit day during my 3 fruit meals . Otherwise it was a breeze for me. The proteins were so sustaining and the water helped keep me "satisfied" in between meals. I was really determined to lose the weight, so in my head, I had already resolved that I was going to make this happen no matter what. I felt fortunate to have found this diet where it did not feel like a "diet" per se, but a meal plan for me. And the wine was a bonus as that really sealed it in my head that it was not a "diet". The hardest thing was learning not to snack in between meals. That is the only time I felt I was being "regulated". I am a big advocate of "just do it!". I felt very fortunate that I did not feel like I was sacrificing while on this diet. I don't have enough good things to say about this diet. But I sometimes forget not everyone will have the same experience. I also like the idea of the log you are keeping so you can evaluate what works and why. Very smart! And you are from my "neck of the woods", too! |
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Overload New Member
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Thank You for the encouragement Webfairy. I too have decided that I just need to lose weight (and not necessarily all of it in one week). I know I'm losing weight because I can now climb 2 flights of steps without getting winded while 2 weeks ago I had difficulty getting up one flight of stairs. But... WINE. What... where... did I miss some required reading... :-) Also, is there an expiry period for the dietaccess website? I read somewhere that you get only 3 months to print out as many menus as you want. Veggie day coming up tomorrow... this is the only day that worries me a bit a I'm not a huge fan of salads. (On the other hand, I never thought I could go several days without bread/pasta/rice so it may not be too difficult after all) Last edited on 26 February 2009 08:23 pm by Overload |
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webfairy Moderator
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Overload - You are allowed one glass of wine per day on this diet. Of course, it is better not to have any alcohol while dieting, but this is the one option I did not pass up. I had a glass of wine almost every night while on this diet. It did not interefere with my weight loss. According to their rules, one glass = 4 oz. I did not realize this until AFTER I ended the diet so I always had 6-8 oz. In regard to the veggie day meals, you should try the veggie chili, or make another veggie dishes of items you do like. You don't have to eat salads. I hardly ever ate salads on veggie day. I make a mock spaghetti with spaghetti squash, parmesan cheese, Italian tomatoes and fresh basil. Don't forget you are allowed 1 oz of cheese on each veggie meal. I take advantage of that, with the chili, or mashed pinto beans with melted pepper jack cheese and salsa. There are many creative ideas for veggie day. Let us know which veggies you like and we can help with some ideas for you. Like I said, the general discussion thread will have more responses, so maybe ask there. Also, I remember reading something about a 3 month expiration period when I joined but you can go back unlimited times, so that does not seem to be the case (thank goodness!). I joined FL4I last June and I can still access the site and generator. Others have been on for more than a year and can still access the site. |
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LM0601 New Member
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Webfairy...thanks for your advice and support. I think two things were going on. One was that I just did not eat enough meats on Day 1 to feel full and the other was that I was drinking the water before, during and after. It did make me feel fuller. I am so glad you told me that...I did not think of it. One other issue is that my stomach is not the best. I have Reflux and October and March are my bad months. March is almost hear. Before I have any Ulcer pain, I sometimes feel hungry for a few days, not realizing and then BAM..I have terrible stomach pain. I am also taking antibotics for a sinus infection, which does a number on my belly. Since I am not eating bread, pasta and the sort not, it might be why I am feeling uneasy stomach wise. Good news is that I just finished them tonight. I hope tomorrow will be better. I am also walking twice per day. Thirty minutes on the treadmill and if I don't have time to do it again, I did the stepper thingy on the Wii Fit. I did it for 20 minutes this afternoon. I am going to keep going. I am not expecting to lose 10 pounds in this cycle. It would be great, but I would be happy with 2-3. I never get the scale to budge and if it does, it comes right back. I lose and gain the same 3-5 lbs depends on the time of the month. I want to break below that! Wish me luck and I will keep you all posted. Meanwhile, I am going to double up on my Previcid for a day or two. The doc said I can do that and I also have Carafate so it should help. |
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KmcK New Member 
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Hi I am new to the FL4I. today is Day1 first cycle. so far so good. i would typically eat 5 meals/snacks a day so going down to 4 might be tough. i ate my 3rd around 3:30 and will hold off as long as possible for my dinner of baked beans, chicken and cheese. I have about 30lbs to lose. but hoping for 10-15lbs by April 18th. My brothers wedding. everyones posts are so helpful and i will be back to read them everyday.!. |
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webfairy Moderator
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KmcK- Welcome! It may be a little adjustment for you but it is totally worth it. If it gets soooo bad that you cannot possibly survive on 4 meals, there is always Beyond Calories which you eat 6 meals per day. The choices are slightly different, and you have to figure out your own menu each day. The diet generator is so much easier for most of us, but whatever works for YOU is what you should do. Please feel free to ask any questions to help make this adjustment a bit easier for you. We all meet on the general discussion thread, so you will get more replies there to your questions. Good luck! |
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Junebug24 Senior Member 
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Hello everyone, my name is Renee and I am on the second day of my first cycle. I am trying to lose 50 lbs by the end of June (12.5 lbs per month). I am 24 years old, 5'5 and 205 lbs. I am tired of folks who I haven't seen in a while telling me how big I've gotten. Or the one's who try to be nice and say I look "healthy."And most importantly, I am concerned about my health. There are so many diseases associated with obesity and I do not want to become a statistic. I have been reading everyone's success stories and I must say it's a huge motivator. Today was my fruit day, and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. For breakfast, I had an apple; lunch, a turkey sandwich w/ mustard; 3rd meal, grapefruit and strawberrys sprinkled w/ splenda and grapes; dinner, same as third meal. It has been a challenge drinking 80 oz of water everyday but otherwise, So far so good. |
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webfairy Moderator
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Junebug- Hello and welcome! I'm glad you are making it through fruit day! hehehe It is the most challenging day for most, but some really love fruit day. Before I started this diet, I would have been lucky to get 1 glass of water in per day. I was not a water drinker at all! Luckily for me, I was on the diet during the summer, so it was easier to drink it, but not in any way easy to start with. Even though I have been off the diet for 4 months now, I still drink at least 64 oz. of water a day, and I add a couple cups of tea to that to get more. It becomes a part of your routine, as it is really good for you long term. The last week I have been home recovering from some surgery, and I have not been drinking hardly any water. This is the first time I have done this in months, and I can tell the difference. Today I started drinking it again so I can get back in the groove. But what I wanted to say to you was that even though it was hard to get used to drinking all that water, I made myself and soon it became a habit. I would try to get in my first 32 - 40 oz. by noon and then I would try to get that much in by the time I left work everyday. Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn't, so I would go home and drink the balance. I learned very quickly to make sure I got my water quota in before late in the evening, otherwise I found myself waking up to use the restroom at night. That is not fun. Anyways, I just would like to encourage you to challenge yourself to make sure you drink all the water. It is a very important part of this diet and it gets easier. |
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Junebug24 Senior Member
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webfairy, you are right about the late nite restroom use, LOL. I read somewhere to drink 8 oz of water every 40 minutes. I think I will try that tomorrow. I just have to figure out what works best for me. Thx for the suggestions. |
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mcgetts New Member
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Hello All Just joined and have been inspired by all the other posts I have read - I just hope I can achieve the same results! This is Day 1 of my first cycle - starting at 246lbs and 38% bodyfat - not a good place to be so I hope by doing FL4I and following the exercise regime of BFFM I hope to keep on the road to my long term goal of losing 84lbs and getting my bodyfat % well into the healthy zone. Just got the challenges of my wife's birthday and our wedding anniversary during this first cycle so I can see some difficulty in keeping to the plan for a couple of evening meals - but I will struggle through!?!? Wish me luck.... |
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KmcK New Member
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Good Luck mcgetts! I'm on day 8 of my first cycle. I started a week ago today. With every "diet" I have always found weekends the hardest. I actually never would follow a diet on the weekends..it was a free for all..but this one i stayed on plan. I just made sure what I ate was in line with the menu items i had for the day. first couple of days is tough food is boring etc. But if you start reading the posts and recipes etc. you will find ways to make the foods liveable and actually good tasting. It doesnt feel like im on a diet since im allowed to have a glass of wine a night and nuts for snacking. and the best thing that keeps me going is the 3 cheat days. good luck and keep in touch on the forum...it has really helped me! |
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mcgetts New Member
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Thanks KmcK - much appreciated. I certainly will keep posting and looking for guidance and inspiration. Would be good to know how you are doing so far. |
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Debbie95382 New Member
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Hi, I hope I am posting in the right place...I have a few questions. I just bought the plan this morning and plan on starting 3/12. This will be my test post and I will ask my questions later if this works! Debbie |
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Debbie95382 New Member
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okay that post worked, I wanted to know if I could swap a carb for another carb that is on my list that day, for example one of my meals is scrambled eggs, cashews, and pinto beans, can I swap out the pinto beans to another meal and use the carb that is in that meal (banana milk shake)? The beans would fit in with that other meal so much better!! Also, I can't find anywhere in the Ebook where it says you can have 1 glass of wine a day...Are there any other extras I should know about? thanks to everybody! This looks like a REALLY good forum. Debbie |
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webfairy Moderator
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Welcome McGetts and Debbie. I wish you much luck in your quest to lose weight. You have chosen a great diet and I can attest to it's effectiveness. If you post your questions in general discussion, you will have a much better response as that thread is the most active. Debbie - It's best to stick to the menu to lose the most weight. However, if you are going to sub, it is best to sub same for same (carb for carb, protein for protein...). So, even though you don't want to make a habit of changing around the arrangement of the menu, you could swap one carb for another for a particular a meal. The best thing to do if you do not like the make up of a menu that you generate, is to click the back button and regenerate until you get a menu you can work with. But only do this before you have started the cycle, not during the cycle. Wine is listed, although I forget where it says you can have one glass. But it is listed. I will check to see where and let you know. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Debbie and McGetts! You will find this a great plan and forum! You will find the wine in the erules to the left of the stoplight just as you are about to go to the diet generator....just click on the "Stop and Read the Rules" part...it also gives you the condiments etc. S S |
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webfairy Moderator
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Thanks, Sunshine! I guess once I knew it was listed, that is all I cared about! |
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Debbie95382 New Member
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Thanks everybody!! Good luck to all and I will switch to the General Discussion forum now. Debbie |
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estther New Member
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Hi there, My name is Esther 34y/o, married, 2 children. Just started the diet today so wish me luck..... My goal is 7 kilos in 8 weeks.... plus going to the gym 3 times a week and walk a bit the days I don't go to the gym... Esther |
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webfairy Moderator
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Estther - Welcome! Best wishes on making your goal. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask! If you go to the general discussion thread, you will "meet" the others and get more responses there. I hope to see you over there! |
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passionflower New Member
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Hello my name is Monica and I am on my 8th day cycle on the BC plan. I had decided to start this in order to loose about 14 pounds and as my hubby tried it last year with great success i thought I will give it a go myself. Now as I said I am in my 8th day and while I only lost about 2.5 lbs I am happy how is going(ie don't feel hungry at all) but have to say is getting a bit boring and I am eating the wierdest food combos ever!! in fact i am sure I could win the cometition if ever there was one( World's Wierdest Food Combos!!!!)LOL. Ok here comes my first question, like i said hubby purchased this plan over the net a while ago and we managed to find all the paperwork( he downloaded everything) but our plan seems to stretch over a 10 day period but after some thread reading I was suprised to find some peeps reffering to a 11 day plan? Are we out off the loop, have things changed? Also is there anywhere on the forum where I could find some meals ideas? Huge thankings and look forward to some replies and hopefully some new cyber friendships M xxLast edited on 16 March 2009 08:17 pm by passionflower |
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janine4fatloss New Member 
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Hello, My name is Janine and I'm a bit of a newbie to this fat loss program I really look forward to working with people on here to lose some extra pounds and get in shape. I never really considered myself as a big person and I just want to lose a decent amount of weight, nothing like 100 lbs to lose or anything. I still need to buy the program, but I'm geared up with my credit card already! I'm excited after hearing everybody's success and the amount of people and posts on this forum is enough evidence for me that this program is for real. I really am social when it comes to a lot of things and support from everybody seems like an added value of the program. I look forward getting to know all of you and share my experiences and questions with you all! Last edited on 21 April 2009 09:11 am by |
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webfairy Moderator
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Passionflower and Janine - Welcome to both of you! Janine - I posted to you in the general discussion thread. I hope you join us. Passionflower - Why don't you meet us in general discussion where there are many other members discussing this diet. The link there is here: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/214-274.html There are the Diet Generator and the Beyond Calories, and then the 10 diet rules that comes along with this diet. Did your hubby generate a menu before where he picked the foods? Give us more information, and maybe we can help you figure out what you have. You should at least have the Diet Generator I would think. The Beyond Calories is extra. Anyways, tell us on the general discussion thread so others will be there to help, also. Best wishes to you both! The RECIPE section is here: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/528-4.html (this is the last page but there are 3 pages preceding this page so you can check them all out. Not all the recipes are for the diet so you have to decipher the ones that have ingredients that are not allowed. Some people post ideas and you have to adapt them to the diet or they post for cheat days. Otherwise, it should say if it is FL4I compatible. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Janine and PF...Welcome!! Passionflower ...you are correct...the BC is 10 days...some just repeat day one to give themselves an 11 day cycle to stay with the DG cycle groups that are 11 days long. S S |
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KD New Member 
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Greetings everyone! I am glad to have found this board and all the wonderful support being posted, it really makes a difference! I don't think I would have purchased the FL4I diet if I hadn't had found you guys. My friend's wife started this diet a few months ago as did he, and both of them had amazing success. She is now in a size 6 from a size 16 and he went from 240 to a slim 180. They both got me jazzed about trying it, and I tell ya I have tried everything. I am currently on the 5th day of my first 11 day cycle, and so far I love it. I was 5'4", 206 when I began this diet, and already (although I haven't weighed myself) my pants are looser, which is encouraging. I am a field biologist so I walk a lot and it is important for me to keep up my energy. Monday I did 8 miles, and I never once felt weak or hungry; Tuesday I did another 5 and it was fruit day for me, and I felt great. My only problem seems to be that I drink a lot of water (which is great on any diet) and I don't always feel hungry when it is time to eat, so in past diets I have been skipping meals creating a very slow metabolism that I have been contending with for years. This diet I dont skip meals and I get to nibble every 3 + hours which is fine with me. My target weight would be 135-140, and that would be a very healthy BMI, and so I have a long way to go, but I am sure it will be much better travelled with you guys. |
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webfairy Moderator
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KD - Welcome! I am so happy you decided to give this diet a try. I think you will be very satisfied. As far as the water goes, I do not drink water within 30 minutes of a meal so I do not get "full" on the water and then don't eat enough. So you may try that and see if it helps. If you have any other questions or comments, please join us in general dicsussion where most of us hang out. We are glad to have you aboard! |
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cheetah Senior Member 
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I chose Cheetah as a username because that's what I did for the first 11 day cycle, I cheated, and I still lost 5 lbs!!!! How I cheated: Went to four stores looking for Halibut, finallly found frozen at $12/lb, so replaced with fresh Tilapia for $3/lb. Roast beef slices.....got tired of deli meat, so BBQd a new york steak w/pepper, onion powder Scrambled eggs/hard boiled eggs......used teflon pan to cook overeasy eggs(no oil) Water.............replaced with Vodka and diet 7-up, well, only a couple of times a day while I worked around the house. Bacon.......got tired of straight bacon, so had one slice of wheat bread, cheese, mustard, bacon sandwhich and on, and on, and on Last edited on 19 March 2009 09:07 pm by cheetah |
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webfairy Moderator
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Cheetah - LOL that was great! |
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cheetah Senior Member
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Webfairy, Max and Murphy would like some more ice out of the ice chest, when you get a chance.................. |
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webfairy Moderator
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I know who this is!!!! Holy Moly! So you guys joined?! I was wondering how you two were doing! So you cheated and still lost 5 lbs? Woohoo! I am so glad you decided to do this! Email me! And give Max & Murphy some ice for me... hehehe I will have to explain that one to the gang here, one day! So if you go to the general discussion thread, you can meet "the others". Please introduce yourselves there! I am so excited to see you! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Cheetah and wife...any friend of our dear Webfairy...is a friend of ours! Welcome!! S S |
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cheetah Senior Member
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sunshine, thank you for the kind welcome! Yup, webfairy is pretty amazing, Max and Murphy think so also......she's their "icefairy" |
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Tink New Member 
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HI ALL, Tink here and new today! Starting tomorrow with the diet, looking already for ways to "spice" up and eat the menus. My issue is going to be all of that water!! Too bad we can't drink flavored water, then it would be easier!! Any water tips guys? I'm 150 and goal is 130ish, so I'm afraid I'll be asking tons of questions, be forewarned! Thanks and look forward to meeting you Tink |
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webfairy Moderator
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Tink - Welcome! The water was hard for me, too. I rarely ever drank water before I started this diet. Luckily it was the summer time and easier for me to drink it. It does seem a bit harder for me in the winter, though. But when you realize that the water is just as essential as the food, you find a way to do it. For me, I would allow myself a certain time to drink a certain amount of water. I work during the day, so I would try to drink 40 oz. before noon. I would keep filling up a water bottle so I would know how much I had. Then I would have the rest of the day to drink the other 40 oz. I would try to do it by the time I left work, so I wouldn't have to worry about it in the evening. But if I fell short, I just made it up after I got home. It was much easier for me to plan it out or else I had a hard time drinking all 80 oz. So you will have to find what works with you to make it happen. Somedays I found myself falling short and I would have tea to make up the rest of the quota. Green and Oolong teas do aid in weight loss, so if you like tea, you might consider that. But plain water is best and will help you lose the weight the fastest. Why don't you introduce yourself in the general discussion thread so everyone can "meet" you and you can ask any questions you may have. We look forward to helping you! This is a great diet and losing 20 lbs. should not be hard at all! Many have lost much more than that, including myself. |
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puddin New Member
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Hello, i just started my diet today! I am 27yrs old, 5'4" and 143lbs. I am trying to shed 10-15lbs. I am mostly trying to shed pounds because there are a lot of health problems in my family that have to do with being overweight. I am also a vegetarian and the menu for vegetarians seems very boring. Is anyone doing the vegetarian menu and if so do you have any recipe ideas to spice things up? Wish me luck! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Welcome Tink and Pudd! Pudd...some generate the regular menu...do sign up for the deli sandwich which is only on the regular DG(you will then get it on fruit day)...then just sub in meat analogs for your meats. Do you eat eggs and cheese and dairy? Generate a few regular DG menus and a few Veg DG menus and then see which will work best for you! Sign up for baked and pinto beans and then sub any beans listed on your veggie plan. SS Last edited on 23 March 2009 04:48 pm by sunshine |
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puddin New Member
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Thanks Sunshine. I've actually started to get creative after thinking for a while of the things i can eat. like today for after lunch before dinner meal i had soy chicken with cheese stuffed in it. and tomorrow is my all fruit day so i thought i'd bake some apples in the micro! I was going to add cinnamon...i wonder if that's allowed. Yes i do eat eggs and dairy and also fish which i though was strange that they didn't offer that on the vegetarian menu. Also a lot of my days have two meals including eggs. I figure i'll start with the vegetarian menu and next time like you say jus sub! Great idea (wasn't sure if i could do that). So far so good, not hungry at all! |
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webfairy Moderator
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Puddin - Hi and welcome! I noticed in my grocery store last night that they had all kinds of vegetarian foods near the deli section. They had so many types of food that looked like meat but were either soy or some type of vegetarian. And I like Sunshine's idea of generating a menu with the DG, you could do that and pick sausage, nuts, meat, all the veggie and fruit options, beans and I am sure you could make some fine meals with that. Let us know if you need help with ideas once you get a menu. You can meet up with us on the general discussion thread. Best wishes to you! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Hey Pudd...since you eat fish and dairy and eggs...definitely go with the regular DG menu and just sub on the meats!!! BTW...you can have a sandwich on the all fruit day for one of your meals(it is not listed on the veg plan so just add it to your fruit day tomorrow) It consists of two regular slices of whole grain bread...perferably oat bran bread and deli meat(just use soy deli slices), tomato and onion, mustard, low fat mayo, bbq sauce, ketchup(the regular condiments). We like to grill our bread to make the sandwich warm...grilled onions are OK too. And yes...you can add spices like cinnamon and nutmeg. The cinnamon is a must on fruit day as it helps balance the blood sugar! S S |
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reddogs New Member
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Hi, I've just signed up for FL4I and need a few clarifications. If chicken is allowed, am I correct that that means just plain chicken with spices or condiments? If vegetables aren't allowed with that meal according to my menu, then I can't add them to my chicken, right? Also, does anyone know if it's OK to add other fruits, namely, blueberries, raspberries, fresh cherries, and other melons? Is it OK to substitute almonds for the nuts on the menus? Thanks! Fran |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi Fran and welcome! Here is a thread we just started which may be helpful to you. We will be adding more tips, so check back often/ http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/8669.html You can sub any nuts (almonds, cashews, walnuts, etc.) anytime it says nuts. Chicken you can season reasonably, you don't have to eat it plain. But don't cook it in oils or bread it... that type of thing. Also no veggies unless the diet says it for that meal. You can only eat what is listed on the meal, no adding anything else. Fruits... read the sub post link above. Sub within reason, similar for similar, and NO bananas unless it specifically says banana in that item. If you have more questions, come to general discussion and more people will be around to answer. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Reddogs...WELCOME! Salsa is allowed with any meal as a condiment...so you can cook the chicken with it...or take small amounts of the ingredients...tomatoes, peppers, onions, garlic and cook with them....just keep it to the idea of condiment in quantity. S S |
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helly_belly Member 
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Hi everyone, My name is Helen, I am 26 years old and live in the UK. I am currently 240lbs and want to lose 100lbs. I am on day 2 of the diet generator, the vegetarian version. No sandwich for me today....I wonder why they dont alow a soy chicken or soy beef sanwich. Never mind! Feeling good about the plan, have even said no to dinner plans with people as they are not on an "off day" for me. Something I would never have done previously (been on WW for 2 years and lost nothing...too much freedom to go wrong haha). I like the structure of this plan and going to the supermarket is easy thanks to the food list after the meal plans. I added garbanzo beans, pinto beans and prunes to my first cycle list as I wanted to try some new foods.....I will not be doing that again...they are all disgusting haha. Just one question, I have been looking at the recipie section....is this for people who are not following the generated diet plan as there seems to be a lot of added ingredients which are not on my plan. Thanks all, I look forward to sharing this journey with you all. Thanks for the inspiring success stories too. Helen xox |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Hi Helen (or should I say yeahyoualright!) How can you not like prunes . i actually stopped picking them because I like too much. Did you buy dried (yum) or tinned (yuck).I think you would be alright to have a sandwich on fruit day as long as you make it the same as the meat lovers version (substituting the meat of course). Let us know if you need the "recipe". Recipes can be used while on the plan it just some people "tweak" the plan to suit their needs. However I would recommend that for at least the first two cycles you stick to perfectly Hugs Joanne |
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helly_belly Member
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I bought dried and they were yucky! haha, my mam said there is a nicer make so will try them but pinto beans and chick peas are NOT for me! haha x |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Helen...WELCOME...do you like hummus?...try making it from chickpeas...just leave out the tahini(sesame seed butter) and use garlic, lemon juice, cumin etc. It is quite a good a dip for fresh veggies! SS Last edited on 26 March 2009 05:31 pm by sunshine |
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helly_belly Member
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Hi again sunshine, no i dont like hummus at all haha. I was brave and tried to vary things a bit, but not for me, thats for sure haha! Helly |
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Brandi Member 
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Hi everyone My name is Brandi. I am a married mother of 2 young children. I am 5' 0" tall. Two and a half years ago I joined Jenny Craig and in about a year i lost about 55 pounds. Then I plataued big time for at least 6 months. I was also SICK and TIRED of processed and frozen foods. I stopped doing Jenny Craig and then hired a personal trainer to help me lose the last 25 pounds that i need to lose. After 4 months, I lost nothing.I was eating between 1200-1300 calories per day. I was frustrated and depressed....so here i am I started FL4I on March 7th did it for the full cycle plus 3 extra days so that my cheat weekend would fall on a weekend and i lost 5 pounds....i gained it all back by monday. I then started BC on this monday...I haven't even lost all of my cheat pounds yet but i will stay positive and keep on going. I'll keep you guys posted. Brandi |
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Professional Student New Member
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Hi! My name is Amy. I am 29 years old. I am married and have two children - Nathan is 8 and Landen is 1. I am 5'4'' and weigh 235 lbs. but hope to one day weigh 150. I have tried LOTS of diets. I've done Weight Watchers, Nutri-System, LA Weight Loss, 3-day diet, and the list goes on and on. Something I have learned about myself from all my dieting adventures is that I don't have a lot of will power and I am quickly discouraged by slow weight loss. I just wanted to stop by to introduce myself. I start my first cycle of FL4I tomorrow! I'm sure that I will have lots of questions throughout this journey and I'm so happy to have found this forum for answers and support. Here's to a "lighter" future, Amy |
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lilfern New Member
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Hi All, I really like this discussion group here - which was infact one of the prime motivators for me to get the FLFI programme - yay! I started the diet on 27th March and now I'm on day 6. Was following the menu to a T till I cheated big time yesterday - was just too tired with my toddler driving me up the wall! Well, still plan to stick to the programme for the remaining days! About me - I am 29 years old (well, almost!), mother of a 21 month old angel. Put on 20 kgs during my pregnancy and have managed to shed only 5!! Right now I weigh in at 68kgs on a 5'3" frame. My goal weight is 54. I have easily tried upto a 100 diets (ok - atleast it feels like that!) in the last 2 years. This diet looks promising - and I really hope it IS the answer. Cheers! |
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StillaKiwi Distinguished Member
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Welcome Brandi, Amy and Lilfern Brandi - keep up the positive attitude. Cheat days can be a blessing and a curse. When I first started I used to get annoyed with myself when I put on too much weight. Now, however, I refuse to get annoyed and instead learn from my actions. In fact cheat days are where I have learnt the most Amy - one of the advantages of FL4I is you don't have to have too much willpower (but you will need some) as long as you are organised. Lilfern - hopefully FL4I will be diet 101 and the last diet you will have to try. It does work but two toddlers does make it harder. Good luck and good on you for getting back on track. Hugs Joanne |
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Brandi Member
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Joanne Thank you for the encouragement and advice...i really appreciate it. It is day 10 of BC and i haven't even lost all of my cheat weight yet!(not to mention any "new" weight) I have followed this plan to the letter. I'll do another cycle starting tomorrow with no breaks inbetween and keep my fingers crossed. How are you doing on this program? which one are you on? good luck to you too. Brandi |
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lilfern New Member
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Thank you Joanne for the encouraging words. It really feels helpful I am on day 8 now - despite a few minor cheats - I can actually see the scales moving down! I'll be really happy even if I lose 2 Kg (4.5 lbs) this cycle... |
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Welcome Brandi, Prof. Student, & Lilfern! Welcome! If you come to the general discussion thread, you can meet the others and ask questions and get encouragement. Sometimes we may not realize we are doing something that is blocking our progress. Please don't get discouraged. We have all been through different weight loss journeys and you never know what will come up that may help you. SO ask questions! There are so many wonderful people here willing to help! Hope to see you all over there! Best wishes! |
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Brandi Member
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Hi Webfairy Thank you for your wonderful support...i honestly feel like i know you and many of the members here because i have practically read every post :) As you know I am 5' tall, 41 years old and I used to be 203 pounds. I lost about 55 on Jenny craig. I took a long time(about a year). I still have about 20 pounds to lose. I plataued for the last year at least.. I really just feel that everything i try now doesn't work..i feel like something is wrong with me. According to my doctor my thyroid is fine, i exercise and definitely drink 10 glasses of water a day. I don't even like wine. I started the DG on march 1st and lost 5 lbs on the first cycle and as you read i gained it all back after my cheat weekend. The next cycle i did BC for 11 days and i still had 1 more cheat pound to lose. I started another cycle of DG yesterday and today is fruit day(I can't wait for the sandwich) but as of this morning i lost all cheat weight from the 1st cycle. I really like this diet and i really want it to work. My biggest downfall was the international delight creamers(chocolate caramel) in my 3 (24oz)coffees a day, but i switched to General foods international (sugar free, of course) and i use half a portion of it per cup (15 calories per cup) Letting go of the sugary creamers in my coffees was one of the hardest things i've ever had to do. Anyway, thank you for the welcome and for listening to me. I really love this forum and you guys are so informative and sweet. I will keep you updated. Brandi |
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i am coming over to the general discussion board..i'll see ya there Brandi |
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soon to be slim New Member
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Hi I'm New to forum and weight loss 4 Idiots. I feel like is this going to work? I weighed myself today and I only if any lost less than a pound , and my husband has lost 5 pounds Im trying not to get frustrated but its hard . Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks By the way today is my 6th day Im going to hang in there until my 11th day . |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi there, soontobeslim! Welcome! If you come to general discussion, more people can help you. Hang in there. Sometimes it may take a cycle or so for your body to get used to this change, and then you will lose. It is important to make sure you don't eat too much at any one meal. Eat ONLY until satisfied, not full, as it WILL make a difference in your weight loss. The water is just as important. Give us more information on what you are doing (in general discussion) and maybe we can figure out what the problem may be. Still, do not give up. This diet is fantastic! |
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lilfern New Member
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Ended up losing about a Kilo on the first cycle - but also discovered that I was Hypothyroid - with alarmingly high TSH levels. Anyone else with this condition on FLFI? I would love to exchange notes - right now I am so dissapointed |
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barefootrose Member 
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Hello Everyone. My name is Ellen. I will be starting my first cycle of the DG on Monday, April 20th. I need to lose the 100 lbs that's been following me around for 35 years or so. I'm 55, and I've only got one more diet in me before I give up and let it win. Just one more, and then I am so very DONE with this life long battle. I have been on every diet known to man....or women, plants, animals and all living things on this earth. You name it, I've tried it. I've spent thousands of dollars and just about all my vast stores of hope in a pretty much useless and depressing quest to reach a goal that only seems to move further and further from my grasp with every passing year. Now, no matter how stringently I adhere to any plan, once I've shed 17lbs, that's it! Not one more ounce will budge! At this writing, I have a cabinet full of really dismal Nutri-System products that will testify to my last vain attempt to break the 17lb barrier. After three very, very long months of choking down that #%@&!, I finally canceled my auto-ship and sped off to WhatABurger! (Oh, hello 17lbs! I thought I lost you, old friend!) So now, my freezer is full of Lean Cuisine, Smart Ones, Healthy Choice...you get the picture...and once again, after bidding my BFF, 17lbs, goodbye for the UMPTEENTH time, look who's back! So, OK, now I have me Irish up, and I so want to believe that this is the right place and the right plan to finally kick ol' 17 to the curb, and all her other 83 blubbery friends, too! If I'm wrong, and this is just more "pie (!) in the sky" hype and empty promises of results for the faithful, it will be the last diet I ever undertake, believe me. I will accept my fate as my own zip code, and donate my rapidly accumulating outgrown fat lady clothes to try to patch the hole in the Ozone. I plan to go Grocery Shopping tomorrow with list in hand, and a song in my heart, for the necessary items for my first 11 day cycle. I vow to follow all rules and menus to the letter, having read every word of every page of the plan, etc., etc. I can do just about anything for only 11 days at a time, trust me. After all, didn't I eat Cabbage Soup for 3 months back in the winter of '96? Didn't I stand in line for 2 hours every Tuesday in the unairconditioned basement of the Holier Than Thou Church in 112 degree heat in June, July and August of '03 to be weighed like a side of beef in front of 32 equally sweaty, miserable chubby gals? Do I need to go on? No, you know EXACTLY what I mean, I can FEEL it. This time will be different. This time I am reaching out to find new friends and allies in this fight for health and personal satisfaction in achieving a better quality of life overall...not to mention a size 6 bathing suit. This will be my new motto: "I'm too old and I've come to far in life to be pushed around by a COOKIE!" Thank You for all of your encouragement, support and tips, I will value every word of wisdom you are kind enough to give. Help me make this time the LAST time, ladies! Ellen |
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Lilfern - I know exactly what you are going through! My TSH level was 68.5 or 65.8 I forget which, but alarmingly high! Once I got on thyroid meds I quit gaining, but still had the dilemna of losing the weight that had accumulated over a couple or so years. This diet is what changed my life. I lost the weight rapidly and I feel like a new woman. The thyroid meds helped me quit gaining, but my losing was attributed to a this diet and I am so grateful to have found it. Losing weight was a priority to me, so I stuck to the diet religiously and I lost over 45 lbs. in 4.5 months. I am with you all the way! Please meet us in general discussion. This support group helps so many people stick with it and reach their goals. You have reached the best support group around, and it is FREE! Welcome! Ellen (Barefootrose) - Please give this diet a chance. We will be with you all the way. Many of us have struggled with dieting and the inability to lose. This diet has been a godsend to so many women (and men). Introduce yourself in the general discussion thread and let us help you with meal ideas and any questions you may have. If this is your last chance, then give it a run for the money. You will find a lot of caring individuals here that want you to succeed. Believe it can happen. I am looking forward to the day you post that you have reached your goal. It IS possible! |
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Thank You, Ladies! My, you're fast! I feel very fortunate to have found this forum right out of the gate! I'm starting Monday so that my 3 days off will always fall on the weekends, as that's just about the only time I get to spend with my husband. He travels with his job about 75% of the time. I was actually dreading telling him I'm starting FL4I Monday, as he's always so supportive, but has yet to see any plan succeed. He loves and supports me, regardless, but I know he's been disappointed almost as much as I have been when all my efforts have come to naught. Guess we're both pretty skeptical as a result. He loves me and thinks I'm beautiful, regardless (Lucky Me!), but he is very concerned for my health. I have chronic severe hypertension, and have had all my life. The only time in my adult life I was actually at a perfect weight (118 Lbs) for my 5'2" small frame, I actually had been seriously ill for a year and suffered a massive stroke...sad memories. Since then, my blood pressure has been controlled by hefty doses of three HBP medications for many years, but I am no stranger to Stroke or even Heart Attack. Fifteen years ago, I dieted for vanity's sake, and pretty much denied my health issues. Thes days, I am facing A pre-Diabetic situation, and much more painful, Plantar Faciitis. Losing weight is now critical if I want to enjoy a normal quality of life. Vanity takes a way, way back of the bus, role here. When I was a child, I remember my Granny saying things like, "As long as you've got your Health, you can face | |||||||
