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daneasher New Member
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Just wondered if you can have a potatoe on this day? (sour cream?) with veggies? |
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Gotta Do It New Member 
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I'm new to this forum and just read through your post. When, for example on the Fruit and Veggie Day, it say's ANY Fruit and ANY Vegetable....I took it for all it was worth. I ate my share of potatos and loved every second of it. If it say's 'any' go for it!!! I quite enjoy having a baked potatoe with some Mrs. Dash seasoning but I don't put any sour cream on it. Sometimes I may sprinkle a bit of shredded cheese on top but I try to limit my dairy intake. Anyways, hope this helps! P.S. Sometimes I even roast my potatoe with a smidgen (half a capful) of olive oil. A little oil goes a long way! Then I sprinkle on some of my favourite zero-calorie seasoning (Mrs. Dash Original Blend) and roast it for a good while until it's just the way I like it. Very good and it stay's right on track with the 11-day diet!! |
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Cowgirl New Member
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If you are really serious about this diet working, you will not touch potatoes or corn. They obviously are pure starch. Sorry! This is a fairly structured diet, but some common sense is still needed. |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member 
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Actually, many of us IPDers have potatoes and/corn on the F/V day and have not had any problems with it. The use of these starches on this day has not haulted our weightloss.:P The rules for this day say any fruit and veggies, there are no fruits or veggies that are off limits. Jayelle  |
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nikkik New Member
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I've had corn everytime on FV Day and still lost 8 pounds. I guess that's just as starchy as potatoes. Now you make me want to try potatoes to see if that works for me. |
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Cowgirl New Member
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Ok, I take it all back....You guys are lucky; my body sees potatoes and corn and packs it on. Please forgive! Everyone's metabolism is different I guess. You all are fortunate you don't have mine. |
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Dobie Distinguished Member 
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Cowgirl wrote: Ok, I take it all back....You guys are lucky; my body sees potatoes and corn and packs it on. Please forgive! Everyone's metabolism is different I guess. You all are fortunate you don't have mine. Bummer, Cowgirl! Can you mix some starch in and lose? My wife mixes potatoes, green beans and tomatos (spices too) and loves it. Helps her a lot. I like hominy in a vegie chili or pan fried (with pam or whatever) in small doses and I do okay. I just hope you find something that works for you!! Cheers, Dobie |
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Cowgirl New Member
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Thanks for the encouragement! And I love your dog picture! |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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Cowgirl wrote: Thanks for the encouragement! And I love your dog picture! Thank you! Dobie is my Boston Terrier and Peter found a pic that looks like him! Last edited on 13 April 2006 09:18 pm by Dobie |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com 
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So a dog is a Senior Member of my forum? ;) Now my monkeys will want to join. Peter  |
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Jayelle Distinguished Member
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Dobie, what's hominy? thanks Jayelle |
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Hominy: foodsubs.com/GrainCorn.html |
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Jazzper New Member
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Hello all! I have been doing this plan for a couple of months now, and have done pretty well for the most part...I want to lose at least another 15 pounds before early October, and it looks pretty doable so far  .One problem I have been having is with the vegetable day...I just can't hack it  , I want to yak by the end of the day. I know there is a thread on fruit days, but those are pretty easy for me. I am thinking about repeating the fruit day instead of doing a veggie day (not sure about doing the sandwich or not). Has anyone else had this problem and found solutions that don't stall a person out? Thanks! |
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lisacna New Member 
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Ok for me---I mostly eat cucumbers the one and only veggie I dont hate. I found this rasberry flavor vinegrette that was not high in calories and it makes the veggie day not as painful for me. You can also eat beans on that day. They make you feel full and have needed protien. I also get a bit creative and sometimes grill onions and peppers sometimes just to mix it up;. Lisa |
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rayaray New Member 
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Thanks for the post. I love cucumbers and only ate about 2 that day, the raspberry vinegarette sounds yummy I ate beans but didn't like what I chose so much, too used to eating them fixed differently. Any suggestions? How long have you been on the diet and how much have you lost? I'm on day 10 and have lost a few lbs (3-4), am concerned about days off but since I figure my cravings have stopped and if I stick to the 4 meals, I figure I am safe and will be losing slow but sure. Thoraya |
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lisacna New Member
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been on the diet a bit over a month. lost 18 pounds so far. This cycle havent lost anything but the weight I gained on the three days off. Very frustrating but am going to stick with it. LIsa |
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Jazzper New Member
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Thanks for the reply Lisa...I did very well on my first veggie day a couple of months ago with lots of tomatoes, broccoli and peppers...on the next one I could hardly stomach the tomatoes at all (and I reallly like tomatoes!). I did try the vegetable chili posted in the recipe section of this site, and like it ok...just no way to have that all day. I am a big ranch dressing fan, so doing veggies in an italian dressing just seems wrong for some reason As far as losing weight on this, I have done well so far-dropping about 25 pounds or so...Once in a while the weight is a bit stubborn and there is not much to see on the scale, but usually the next cycle I will drop again. I do notice that if I drink a lot of diet soda I will not lose as much either...the water really helps with this plan! |
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Jazzper New Member
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rayray...the best way I have found to not gain a whole lot back on the cheat days is to still do the 4 meals a day, but eat what you feel like instead of going into the next cycle right away. The theory with this plan is that you need to let your body get used to your normal foods again so that when you hit the next cycle you will continue to lose weight instead of coming to a standstill. Also...if you don't have a large amount of weight to lose to begin with, you will see smaller losses over the course of the cycles...perhaps that is part of it? Jazz |
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bote11c New Member
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On veggie days I always cook either a pot of veggie soup or a pot of veggie chili. That item becomes my meal twice in that day. I add lots of beans and prettymuch every type of veggie allowed on the list. Another thing I make on veggie day is sort of an italian sautee. I use onions, garlic, zuchini, peppers, fresh tomatos, fresh basil, and italian spices and then grate my 1 oz of cheese- usually a combination of fresh parmesan and mozza on top. It's a side dish I've enjoyed for years, now on veggie day it's a meal. One other vegetarian recipe that I haven't used on veggie day, but intend to is an eggplant roll. Slice an eggplant into long, 1/4" strips and grill them. Then put fresh basil, red peppers, and smoked gouda on the eggplant and roll it up. Bake for about 15 minutes. Just remember that we're limited to 1 oz of cheese per meal. Hang in, there. Its' do-able  |
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rayaray New Member
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Jazz, thanks for the reply. I have one more day til the days off!!! All through this I kept thinking about foods I want to eat but now that I am almost there I find I don't care as much. Did that make sense? I plan on doing the 4 meals a day and hope I can keep to the same schedule. |
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Jazzper New Member
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Hi all! Been busy the last week or two, but I am trying to catch up on the messages here. I have kind of decided to try doing a veg/fruit day instead of the total veg day...It just wasn't working out for me no matter how I tried. How do the Fruit/Veg days on the old plan work...anyone know (Dobie ?)Bote11c-I did try the veg chili posted here and it was pretty good, but I can't eat it all day without having some stomach issues as well as dreading the next meal. I will probably still keep that in my veg portion of the day, but not all day. I may give the eggplant a try if I get brave ...I have only had it once and it didn't thrill me too much, but maybe it is time to give it another go.rayray-How did your days off go? I hope you made it through with good results! I am on a "cheat" weekend this coming Friday...hopefully won't gain back! Jazzper |
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Dobie Distinguished Member
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The old one was not pretty. 3 meals, one fruit, two Veggie. No cheese or dressing listed. I actually change it to four meals and add in beans and potatoes to make it through. Way too few calories that day to be healthy to me. |
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Jazzper New Member
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I did try doing the bean thing and it helped alot, but unfortunately my stomach didn't like the overload of beans  . I think I am going to see if repeating the fruit day stalls me or not...though I may put one meal with the veg chili or a soup in there somewhere. It is just not a good thing when you feel like yaking when you are only thinking of what is for your next meal!Thanks for all of your comments on this board Dobie...I haven't done a lot of posting, but have read quite a bit and your posts have helped quite a bit! Jazzper |
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nina79 New Member
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hi does anyone have any ideas for breakfast on veg only days? tried to make some sort of carrot and cucumber juice last time but couldn't stomach it 1st thing in the morning. thanks nina |
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dennymas Senior Member 
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Hi Nina, I do a baked squash (hubbard, bake the night before). I use a dab of butter and artificial sweetner on it to make it a little more palatable. Denise |
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blackcal Senior Member 
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Hi nina79, All I can say is that I just made a soup using an onion soup mix as a base. I added tons of permitted vegetables and pinto beans. I will work off this pot of soup all day for my four meals. I will also eat a salad with my last meal if I start to run out of soup. The soup really isn't that bad. I can actually get it down. Next time, I'll prepare it the night before so I will just have to heat it up when I want a meal. It can take a long time for some of those vegs to turn soft enough to eat. Blackcal |
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Jules41 Senior Member 
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Hi I read a thread last week that someone has grilled sliced tomatoes with the 1oz of grated cheese melted over the top. I tried this today ( my veg day)with bbq sauce over and it was delicious, went down a treat. Jules |
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nina79 New Member
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thanks for that guys! I will give some of those a try, my problem is that i struggle with savory things 1st thing in the morning, but i guess the squash may be good. Back on day 1 of 2nd cycle. Felt really down yest as i felt really bloated and overate on my 'cheat' days. feel taht i've gone back to square 1. Oh well better luck the 2nd time round! x N |
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j-9 New Member 
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Hi, I just started fat loss for idiots and I am on day 6. I have lost about 2 pounds. One of my questions is, they list pinto beans as a vegetable. Does that mean I can eat pinto beans all day? I really don't like vegetables. Also, I am confusesd about the portions. This morning I ate a can of pinto beans, later I will eat a half package of tofu, I will have 200 calories worth of frozen yogurt when I get home and will have chicken and cashews later (probably 2 chicken thighs and 2 oz cashews) is this too much? I quit drinking alcohol and I used to drink 2 bottles of wine a night. I also quit coffee. I thought after quitting drinking, I would loose a ton of weight, but I have been disappointed so far. Any advice. Also, can the frozen yogurt dessert be chocolate flavored. It says no chocolate any help would be great, thanks!! |
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sunshine Distinguished Member 
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Do you like v8 juice or chili? Lots of us make a veggie chili with diced tomatoes, peppers, pintos and fatfree refried beans and chili powder and cumin. Some make black bean soup or pinto bean soup. Do you like salads...what about shredded carrots with ff mayo with sweetner...my favorite is asian coleslaw...abag of finely shredded cabbage... chopped cilantro...vinegar and water and sweetner until it is sweet & sour then add alittle toasted sesame oil....awesome and tastes like Chinese...oh and I add alittle ginger and sliced green onion tops. This diet is to teach us how to eat and live in a way to live slim...keep trying ways to learn to love veggies...usually people hate them because they grew up with mushy ones. Raw with a low fat dressing dip is good too. Do you like baby carrots raw? Keep experimenting and ask people for their favorite veggie ideas and try some with an open mind. Hope this helps! SS |
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kristinak New Member
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Why don't you try having the fruit for breakfast instead make a nice fruit smoothie or just eat some nice fresh cut fruit like watermelon, pears, grapes, strawberry etc......I've always ate the fruit first on that day as I am a huge breakfast person and veggies just don't do the trick for me  |
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kristinak New Member
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Are we talking the new diet? just wondering because on the old one that I have it gives me 2 veggie meals and one fruit meal on that day......so sorry if I offered up an idea for something you can't have. If that's the case I am glad I have the old version cause veggies all day I don't think I could do very well  |
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nina79 New Member
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Hi Are there 2 versions???? I only joined at the end of December, sureley there can't have been a newer one come out (typical if there is-trust me to miss out!!  ) No Unfortunatley can't have any fruit on that day- all veg!What does ur diet consist of, day 8 is typically veg day on ths diet and day 2 fruit day-although your allowed a sandwhich i evening. Nina |
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dennymas Senior Member
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Hi Nina, The old plan was from 2005 up through ? (Don't really know) but the new plan has been out for quite awhile. I know there seems to be some confusion about who is doing what and they do seem to be quite different. I would say there are more people using the new version but those that have the old seem to like it better. I think it's what you get used to. So keep following what you're doing and you'll be fine  Denise |
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nina79 New Member
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thanks for that, is there any way of getting access to the old one or can u only get access to the one u get when u subscribed? as i don't know ant better this one seems ok, only thing is if i have to have a tuna salad plate again i think i'll scream! my fault for choosing tuna but it was more for the salad. it's the funny the things that u miss when u can't have! anyway 1 more day till cheat days! How u getting on? |
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nina79 New Member
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By the way thanks for the squash idea on veg day Denise, was yummy Nina |
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kristinak New Member
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hahahaha Oh how I feel your pain lol I am soooo sick of tuna when I picked it I didn't realize that I would be eating it this much  I am on the older plan and day 7 is my fruiggie day where I get 2 veggie meals and 1 fruit meal so they do differ there. I have not even seen the new one or have a clue how it works but I know mine worked for me years ago so I've just stuck with it plus why pay again to get the new one.......I'm sure they all work the same anyways it's the same concept and everyones will vary slightly depending on your food choices. If anyone wants to see the old one I can show them but keep in mind even the old one will vary person to person depending on what they picked..........smarty pants me at the time pick tuna and cottage cheese as some of my choices and boy am i paying for it now  |
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kristinak New Member
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This is what my diet consists of based on the foods i picked this is an older version of the diet (I can only use low fat condiments and can not drink anything that has over 10 cal per glass in it) I try my best not to use condiments though menu for day 1: Sandwich(any kind of home made) Roast beef Sandwich Tuna Ham and pineapple menu for day 2: Fruit Salad Mixed Nuts Omellette Cottage Cheese menu for day 3: egg salad mixed nuts ham and pineapple tuna menu for day 4: Oatmeal ( I can eat it with a small amount of milk) Tuna( can eat it with low fat miracle whip and add some chopped veggies) I have been just sucking it down plain though to get it over with Cottage Cheese(just as it says plain blahhhh) Fruit Salad(I can add light whip topping) menu for day 5: veggies ham and pineapple omellette ( can add cheese and veggies) mixed salad ( any kind of veggie i like) menu for day 6: grapes (that's it just grapes) tuna omellette roast beef sandwich menu day 7: 2 veggie meals 1 fruit meal menu day 8: oatmeal tuna fruit salad cottage cheese menu day 9: egg salad(can't eat it with bread) tuna salad + fruit mixed nuts ( just nuts) omellette menu day 10: oatmeal mixed salad omellette cottage cheese menu day 11: sandwich(home made) omellette tuna cottage cheese |
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jdcozzy New Member
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This seems alot better then the new menu. At least you can have some carbs, (roast beef sandwhich) and oatmeal for breakfast a day or two also seems great! I also didn't relize you can add veggies and cheese to the eggs! This is my first cycle and I am on day 7 and doing fine. Down 3 or 4 lbs. I will try not to weigh again until my first cheat day! Also I may just do one cheat day and start again as I want my cheat days to be on the weekends. Any other tips to add to the one or two meal opition per day would be helpful to change things up a bit. It is really hard when your choices for a meal are ham or roast beef. Thats it???  I am looking forward to changing things up a bit. I would love a hamburger. (or Turkey) No bun just the meat! ( where would I sub that in??) Keep up the good work everyone you are very supportive and that helps alot!! I enjoy this forum alot!! Thanks for the help!! |
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kristinak New Member
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On the older diet that I have I am allowed to add cheese and veggies to the eggs I am not sure if it okays this on the new one though. I am not a great recipe idea person I generally just eat it the way it is when i get ham and pine i wrap the pine in deli sliced ham and that's it I really have not got creative on it at all I just suffer lol I also start my diet on mondays so I get every second weekend as a cheat weekend. As far as subbing a burger patty in I am not sure how you would do that as the foods stated are designed in such a way for the diet to work the best so I am not sure what sort of effect that would have on it and so on but if you must, sub it in for when you are suppose to eat other meat. |
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Mamanita Member
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I substituted an extra lean (93/7) patty for roast beef slices once last cycle & it made no difference. Beef is beef! |
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kristinak New Member
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I am writing on here right now because i am avioding being upstairs during dinner! I have a daycare so I make them dinner and tonight is the hardest cause I made burgers and fries and I am a sucker for burgers ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! I'll get through this I know but I can't be there right now watching them eat it it will kill me |
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nina79 New Member
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You poor thing!!! Excellent will power though, think i would have crumbled even making it. prior to diet i had a sweet tooth but ow seem to crave savory things! I agree about the older diet, at least u get more sandwhich options, we can only have one on day 2, also can't add anything to eggs, just basic ally either scarmbled or boiled!! bizarre though cos i regularly have days where meal 1 may be boiled eggs and meal 3 scrambled, i mean jeez how many eggs can a gal eat in 1 day! thanks for sharing ur menu: think your right will all work the same, i guess it's just a new way of refreshing things and possibly making more money if the get older members to subscribe to new menu aswell  Nina |
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Lizardlaird New Member 
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Nina, on veggie days I enjoy carrot, raisin salad for breakfast. I buy a bag of shredded carrots. Mi it with F.F Mayo (sparingly), add a little splenda and sometimes a splash of pinapple juice. I let it sit overnight, and in the morning I drain the juices. Its good. Sometimes I shred some Jicama into it for variety. |
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sunshine Distinguished Member
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Nina, don't choose eggs twice on the diet generator...just once and prepare them as you please....boiled or scrambled or filled or egg salad ect...didn't hurt my loss. I generate menus until I come up with scrambled eggs and bacon or sausage or cheese or deli meats (turkey or ham cut up in eggs or which I fry abit like bacon) When veggies come up also, make an omelette or crustless mini quiche . I eat salsa with my scrambled eggs as a condiment. I also substitute canned salmon for tuna occasionally or just use fish filet. As long as you substitute like for like.....example...fish for fish...or deli ham for deli turkey..broccoli for green beans...it seems ok once in a while. That is my opinion.... but others have said the same...caution though that it is same for same and fat, calories and carbs are very similar. It's best to stay as close to the diet as possible but it is better to make a substitution than give in to something not on the diet or give up. |
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kristinak New Member
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well made it through dinner thank god that's over think i'll just avoid making burgers for the kids till my cheat days if I make em pasta I'm not that fond of it so I should be alright. I agree if you are having a super hard time switch it up with similar things (when I say similar I mean veryyyy similar) But I would also have to say that if you can, just stick to what it says. Because although some foods are very alike there are differences that even small could make a difference and we are all here to see results so just keep your chins up and keep trucking......they put these foods together for a reason it they meant eat ham for a meal but ohhhhh you can substitute that they'd have said it.....it's like that for a reason because those foods were found to be best together on those days......I'm not anti-switch it up just be reasonable about it don't start doing it with nearly half your meals cause although it may still work a bit it most likely won't be the same results as though you just followed what was on it  HAPPY DIETING (now back to my #%@&! cottage cheese)yuk |
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kristinak New Member
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Not sure who's allowed meat and cheese with their eggs but if you are this is what I do: take a few slices of deli ham and fry em then melt cheese on top scramble my eggs put my eggs on top of the meat and cheese then roll it up like a burrito with a small amount of ketchup (I am allowed ketchup on my diet not sure if you all are) does the trick anyways and tastes pretty good |
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nina79 New Member
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thanks for the suggestions. Are u allowed raisins on your menu? I never have that option on my menu. it seems that there ar quite a few combinations flying around, but my menu doesn't seem to generate this? i usually get scrambled egg and cottage cheese combi, or egg and prawns but never egg and cheese? Oh wellmaybe will change in time? Cheat day tomorrow Yay! just need to make sure i don't over do it like last time!N |
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Lizardlaird New Member
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I have the new menu and the old menu. Since raisins are dehydrated grapes, why not? Just dont use any that have added sugas and stuff. |
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kristinak New Member
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I don't have raisins on my menu, and yes there are a lot of different menus going around actually it surprises me how different the rules on them can vary. |
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kristinak New Member
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I am actually allowed cheese with quite a few things on my menu yet with a lot of the different menus that are going around a lot of you seem to have 2 things for a meal where as I usually only get one weird stuff |
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shopaholic Member 
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Hi, sorry, but raisins are dehydrated and the stuff that stays from the grapes ist the SUGAR. Grapes have a lot of sugar ( potassium) to begin with, so be careful with the raisins. There are sweetners made by splenda with vanilla and hazlenut flavor. They taste pretty good if you mix them with the cottage cheese or use them in your coffee. On the fruit day I puree cooked carrots and add a little pack of splenda- looks like bayfood and it tastes really good. I think it is easier to watch the Splenda with the little individual bags. Last edited on 29 February 2008 09:55 pm by shopaholic |
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Anyar Distinguished Member 
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FL4I - VEGGIE DAY When using the Diet Generator, you will encounter Veggie Day. This typically occurs around the 7th or 8th day of the diet, and your only allowed to have veggies that are listed on your menu. In addition to veggies, you are also allowed 1 oz Grated Cheese (OR) Salad Dressing with each meal, but you cannot have both in the same meal. As with Fruit Day, Veggie Day has also proven to be very challenging, especially if you don't like veggies. For those who do enjoy veggies and those who can be very creative with them (see FL4I - Recipes for suggestions), this day is pretty much a breeze. The reason for Veggie Day on the FL4I diet is not clearly known, but it is assumed that there is a reason, as with Fruit Day. To put to rest some of the misconceptions about Veggie Day, you are only allowed to eat the veggies that are listed on your generated menu. If it says squash, this doesn't mean green beans. If it says green beans, this doesn't mean squash! As mention above, there are also very specific instructions on what condiments can be used with your veggies. Keep in mind, these condiments are over and above what is allowed on your FL4I condiments list. It is suggested that you adhere to the diet's guidelines as any deviation can slow the weight loss process. Please use this thread to post encouragement, assistance or any questions you may have pertaining to Veggie Day. |
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grady71 New Member
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Pinto beans are listed on my veggie day. Does this mean that I can have hummus? It's made primarily from pinto beans. Does anyone eat this on veggie day? |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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Grady: Hummus is made from Chickpea (garbanzo) -- not Pinto Beans. If the diet says to eat Pinto Beans, that would be my recommendation. |
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sweetieday New Member
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I don't think you are allowed corn or potatoes. It said you can only choose from this list: You'll be eating 4 meals (just like other days), but you must choose foods from the below list only: · Lettuce · Tomatoes · Cucumbers · Green Beans · Onions · Celery · Carrots · Pinto Beans · Sprouts · Spinach · Broccoli · Zucchini · Squash · Peppers Last edited on 14 June 2008 10:51 pm by sweetieday |
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I posted a topic on this but what do some of you eat for breakfast on veggie days????? |
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Anyar Distinguished Member
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omayra wrote: I posted a topic on this but what do some of you eat for breakfast on veggie days????? Not to sound cynical or anything, but we eat veggies! LOL If you read some of the diet trends on the internet, they say that you don't have to eat a traditional breakfast for breakfast. You can eat anything with nutritional value. Many of us are just used to the traditional breakfast (cereal, bacon, eggs, toast, pancakes, etc., etc.) because this is what we're accustomed to eating. Veggie Day provides little creativity and manipulation so it's not like you can switch Meal 1 with Meal 3. Unfortunately, it's the same veggies throughout the day. You are allowed a little Parmasean cheese. Maybe some fried tomatoes or Zuchinni with a little Parmasean cheese might provide some normalcy for breakfast. Good luck!! |
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sweetieday New Member
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I just make chilli and eat it all day. Out of pinto beans too, which is different but it's still good. |
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nina79 wrote:
Tomorrow is my all veggie day and since rhubarb is technically a vegetable I am thinking of fixing it for my breakfast meal,stewing it with sweetener and cinnamon and since it can be either red or green is it "legal" ?? What do you all think ??? |
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xiomigirl Senior Member 
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I think the only veggies you can have are the ones listed on the 8th day! unless you find similar ones =S Im afraid you can only have 3 tblspoon of low calorie salad dressing in every meal! |
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MSWILEY87 New Member 
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Hey guys, tomorrow is my vege day and I think I will have like caesar salad for breakfast and lunch then lupper and supper a bowl of minestrone soup!! I love this @ Olive garden, they put potatoes I know we can't use them so I researched and foudn a great recipe. I will share with you guys under the recipes section. |
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Whatsitallabout New Member
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shopaholic wrote:Hi, Interesting that you only get one item. My menus give me 2 and 3 items for each meal. The combinations are sometimes horrifiying , but I stick to it to the letter.Vegetable day is/was the most difficult for me. Until I started getting a little more creative. So, I now cut carrots, some parsnips (for flavor) onion, loveage (sp?) and whatever vegetable I find that's not starchy with some salt and Mrs. Dash and cook that until I can cut the vegetables with a fork. Put all of that with some liquid from the pot in the blender adding a cut up, uncooked tomato and whirr it around a few times. Still chunky, I serve that with some grated Parmesan, which is allowed on vegetable day. When you close your eyes, it could almost be Minestrone I could eat that soup all day long and not get bored. My vegetable days are easy now. |
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sweetieday New Member
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if some of you still lose weight with the starch, here's a good idea. bean dip with baked tortilla chips :-) yum. You can even get "fat free" bean dip as well. And then you can add cheese to it since it's veggie day. |
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I know some don't lose weight with the beans, but I love beans. I think I would be tempted to eat the baked tortilla chips on cheat days, but it could be a hinderance in losing weight on diet days. You could, however, mash your own beans for veggie day, and make a sort of hummus type dip that you could also use with vegetables like carrots, etc. I think vegie day is my favorite over fruit day, hands down. But when it comes to losing weight, the fruit day seems to be more effective for most. |
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omayra Distinguished Member
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This is a veggie day I posted on the recipes forum, I thought it would be helpful here too: 1 package of tofu burger crumbles (optional) 1 can of pinto beans, rinsed and drained 1 8oz bottle of taco sauce (any brand, I prefer Taco Bell) 1 8oz can of tomato sauce (preferably mexican style) 1 can of mild, hot or regular Rotel (diced tomatoes with green chiles) Olive oil flavored cooking spray Crushed garlic to taste 1 diced onion Chili powder to taste Ground cumin to taste Kraft Taco Shredded Cheese Blend or your favorite, (optional) Instructions: Spray the pot with the cooking spray, Sautee the onion and garlic on a 4 qt pot, until the onion is tender Cobine remaining ingredients and stir. Simmer for 30 minutes. If using a crock pot, set in on high for 4 hours or on low for 6 to 8 hours or overnight. You can eat this throughout the day on veggie day. Sprinkle with an ounce of cheese if desired. I personally eat this chili on veggie day with the tofu crumbles because I don't like meatless chili and the crumbles come close to that. I've still lost weight regardless but it's up to you. Last edited on 10 March 2009 05:14 am by omayra |
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cowgirl_kimmi New Member
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can you eat lentils on your veggie day? I found some progresso lentil soup and since pinto beans are allowed I thought maybe lentils would be. Also, what about pork and beans in a can? It doesn't actually have pork in it just pinto beans and sauce. |
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PrettyPorcupine New Member 
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This is a late reply but... Those should be fine. I am thinking of having the can of Progresso lentil soup that was in my pantry for dinner -- checked the label and it's just lentils, veggies, and water. Should be fine. Ditto the pork and beans. As you say, it's just pinto beans in tomato sauce -- just make sure it' s not the kind that has a big ole chunk of pork fat in it (although even that won't kill you, I bet |
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glassdog New Member 
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I finally talked my husband into doing FL4I with me...it's almost impossible to do it alone. We both decided that the fruit day was a "no go." I tried this diet last summer with a friend and I was soooo hungry all day on fruit day. My husband and I have decided to substitute the fruit day for a veggie day, and skip the sandwich. There are way more options to curb hunger with veggies rather than fruit (in my opinion.) I posted this question last year and only received one response. I was hoping one of the "old-timers", or more experienced people on this forum, could help us out? What are your opinions on our substituting the veggie day for fruit day? So far, it hasn't hurt our weight loss, but will continued exclusion of the fruit day eventually work against us? Thanks... glassdog |
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webfairy Moderator
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Hi glassdog, and welcome! That is great that you got your Dh to do the diet with you. It is so much easier when making meals, and the support is nice, also. If you don't think it is hurting your losses, then do it (sub veggie for fruit day). I am one for telling people to stick to the diet strictly, especially when first starting so you have something to go by when you decide to sub. Some people either stay the same or gain the day after veggie day, and lose nicely after a fruit day. I am one of those people, even though I detest fruit day! And yes, I am hungry like you, and I get shaky and headachy, and feel generally miserable on fruit day. But I alway figured the outcome was worth it for me. On the other hand, if it is going to make you blow a cycle by cheating, then I say the veggie day swap is fine. That is my two cents. Let us know how you do, ok? Come on over to general discussion thread when you get a chance, and say hello to everyone. You will get more responses to any questions if you ask them in that thread, normally. Best wishes to you and DH! |
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321contak New Member
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Is Tofu allowed in place of beans or a veggie? Thanks |
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webfairy Moderator
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321contak - Hi there. I am not sure about that. It is made from soy BEANS, so it sounds possible, but not sure it is really a similar sub. I used to eat tofu and still do at times, not often anymore, though. I read an article that really changed how I looked at soy based products. If you like I can send it to you (PM me). I have hypothyroidism (low thyroid) and soy is not good for people with thyroid problems. From what I have read, you can sub tofu for eggs, so maybe you can try that for a sub. Wish I was more help. Let me know if you have any other questions. Are you knew to the diet? Are you doing the diet generator (DG) or Beyond Calories (BC)? |
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321contak New Member
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Thanks for the reply. I am on the diet. Day 7 finished.Using the DG. It's been going smoothly and I've been staying on track. I am doing this together with a friend. I would like that info on soy please. Thanks again. |
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webfairy Moderator
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321contak - I PMed you the information on soy. |
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Cindy513 New Member
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Webfairy I looked back on some of the other posts and I saw where you didn't understand why we need a veggie day and a fruit. I might have the answer: I believe it is because all the veggies and fruits that are allowed, except for the occasional banana, are what is referred to as negative calories, of course nothing is really negative calorie but the premise behind that is that these foods burn up more calories than they contain. So if you eat a peach that is 65 calories it might burn 70 calories by eating it. That is why Weight Watchers for instance gives you tomatoes etc as unlimited you can eat them all day and never gain weight. That is also why much of what we eat here is not so limited. Some say if you eat so much of the so called negative calorie items you can actually lose weight. Kewl right? Ro |
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webfairy Moderator
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Cindy - I don't remember that post exactly, but this has been a big learning experience all around since starting the diet in 2008. I have read a lot about negative calorie foods, and have a bunch of information saved about it on my computer. I find the concept quite interesting, but never really related it to our foods here on the DG. Thanks. |
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321contak New Member
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Hello, Anyone ever tried Boca Burger or Garden Burger on this diet as a veggie? |
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webfairy Moderator
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321contak - Are you asking if you are doing a vegetarian version of the diet, if you can use those, or if you can sub those items for veggies? You need to read the ingredients in any items you substitute for another to try to get the closet possible sub. If you are talking about subsituting these items for vegetables, I don't think that would work. The Boca Burgers would be more of a meat substitute as they are soy protein. They also contain cheese. And the Garden Burgers contain brown rice, oats, and cheese. So not sure that would be ok as rice isn't allowed. Maybe someone else will have an opinion. |
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