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OzScotty
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Posted: 11 March 2009 03:33 pm |
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KmcK wrote: sCOTTY MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST EAT LESS DINNER SO THAT YOU CAN TRADE YOUR CALORIES FOR DESSERT?. wEIGHT WATCHERS PLAN IS LIKE THAT..BASICALLY YOU CAN EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT. BUT IT MUST BE IN YOUR POINTS ALLOWANCE FOR THE DAY...OR YOU CAN WORK OUT/EXERCISE TO GAIN MORE POINTS TO USE FOR THOSE EXTRA ITEMS SUCH AS SWEETS.
FOR A SWEET LOW CAL LOW FAT TREAT. MAKE A BANANA MILKSHAKE
FROZEN BANANA WITH MILK IN A BLENDER ADD SOME VANILLA EXTRACT AND SWEETNER.
FROZEN YOGURT WITH FRESH FRUIT IS A GOOD CHOICE TOO.
GOOD FOR YOU FOR TRYING. I TOO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EATING AFTER DINNER. THEY SAY YOU SHOULDNT EAT 3 HOURS BEFORE BED GIVES TIME FOR THE BODY TO DIGEST.
KmcK you have also 'opened my eyes' to something that should have been obvious. I like fruit milkshakes. There have been times i have made them pretty regularly. I bought some frozen mixed berries for the exact purpose of making healthy milkshakes as a dessert, and EVERY TIME I OPEN MY FREEZR, i see the pack of frozen berries. Even so, it didn't occur to me to make them until i saw the banana milkshake suggestion in your post (i liked to use banana in my berry milkshake, because it thickens the mix a bit, and the berries along can make it overly tart).
I have done weight watchers before, and it didn't work very well for me. I would eat poorly early in the week, and then eat very little for a day or two at the end of the week, so that i would keep to my points level. After a couple of days of not eating much at all, i would then eat even worse at the start of the next week. I think the points system works better for people who have reasonably well structured eating habits already, but unfortunately that wasn't me. I did lose a decent amount of weight on it, but it didn't help change my cycle of binge/diet/binge/diet, and probably wasn't a sustainable way of losing weight for me.
I have also tried to allow myself room for dessert in my daily intake, sometimes with success. I have found though that I can't rely on myslef to avoid binging on sweets (particularly ice cream) when it is readily available to me.
I don't adhere to any strict time period of not eating before i go to bed (impossible given i go to bed at drastically varying hours, which you can see by my posting times on here. Or not, given not many would have their time settings on here set to Melbourne time!). I do try not to avoid eating much not long before going to bed though, just because it makes me less likely to ea breakfast, and i find that i tend to feel better and do better with my eating if i start with a decent breakfast.
Thanks very much for the help KmcK.
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artistjohn
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Posted: 11 March 2009 05:28 pm |
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Thanks for the thumbs up
I am surprised about the fruit in the supermarket in Aus. I have in my my mind that you would be swamped with the stuff with your climate and part of the world.
It's funny how you have these images in your head. Us Brits also imagine there are thousands of things queuing up to kill you in Aus snakes spiders and sharks to mention a few.
We get really nice spanish oranges and grapes here. Stuff from Israel and South America and South Africa too.
I also eat tinned prunes for breakfast to get things moving (if you know what I mean) Also fruit salad in tins as an emergency against running out of fresh stuff. All tinned stuff in fruit juice/ not syrup.
All the best and keep going.
John
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OzScotty
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Posted: 12 March 2009 08:42 pm |
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John, your perception might not be far from the truth. Perhaps i have just been so accustomed to having a lot of good fruit available that i have become a fruit snob.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 12 March 2009 08:58 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 3 days
Remaining: 18 days
Last night was funny. I went out with friends for coffee after dinner, and there was a cake with caramel that the staff highly recommended. Good caramel is probably my favourite thing in the world to eat. My friends had some.
The situation was almost too silly, like it had been scripted for a sitcom. Guy trying not to eat sweets anymore presented with something really temnpting. People around him making a big deal about how wonderful it is (the staff and then my friends).
It wasn't tempting though. There was no agonosing over whether or not to have any. It just didn't even feel like an option to me. I guess that is a good sign.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 15 March 2009 10:23 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 6 days
Remaining: 15 days
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OzScotty
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Posted: 16 March 2009 02:45 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 7 days
Remaining: 14 days
1/3 of my goal completed. I am now finding it reasonably easy to keep it up. I often get complacent once i get through the tough starting out period when trying to make changes, and quickly end up falling into my long established habits. So, i must be careful.
I also need to start getting healthier. So, I am going to start setting myself some other goals too. I haven't decided exactly what form they will take, but i feel ready to start focussing more on some bigger changes.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 18 March 2009 08:54 am |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 8 days
Remaining: 13 days
Day 9 is a challenege. After dinner i had a strong urge to eat ice cream. I resisted though, and now seem to have got through the worst of it.
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KmcK
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Posted: 18 March 2009 05:44 pm |
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| Keep it up you are doing well!!! don't give into temptation!!
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OzScotty
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Posted: 18 March 2009 10:20 pm |
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KmcK wrote: Keep it up you are doing well!!! don't give into temptation!!
Thanks for the encouragement. I did manage to resist, so that's good. It was the toughest i have found it since i started.
GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 9 days
Remaining: 12 days
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OzScotty
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Posted: 18 March 2009 10:25 pm |
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This morning i have weighed myself for the first time in a fair while.
126.5 kg
Pretty #%@&! off at myself about that, but no point dwelling on it.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 20 March 2009 01:39 am |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 10 days
Remaining: 11 days
Almost past half way. Yay for me.
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Victoria
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Posted: 20 March 2009 09:22 am |
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| Good job!
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OzScotty
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Posted: 22 March 2009 03:02 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 13 days
Remaining: 8 days
Still going well. Tonight i went to dinner at a friend's place. Lovely looking dessert was on offer. I didn't have any.
The great thing is that i no longer have the post dinner cravings that i used to have. In that sense at least, i have broken the habit.
I know from experience that i am now in danger of getting too relaxed about my problems. It starts to feel so easy to do the right thing, that i can't imagine how it was ever difficult for me. So i become complacent, and suddenly, without realising it was happening, i fall into old habits.
Despite being well on the way to achieveing my goal, i am not going all that well generally with eating well, and it makes me pretty unhappy with myself. As does the knowledge that i am nearly 10kg heavier than i was in July last year.
I have never had sustained success with weight loss (not for a long time anyway) and so i lack confidence in my ability to do it. Closely tracking my weight and diet has always become too intense to be sustainable in the past, and being relaxed has never worked either.
I have recently progressed from being quite relaxed (which was good for me mentally) to being strict about one small area. That has worked well for me, but I am afraid that if i try to extend that strictness much firther that i will fail. I am afraid if i try to do it by just being sensible, that i won't make any significant change at all.
I think I will start a thread on the main board seeking advice about overcoming a lack of confidence.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 23 March 2009 11:17 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 14 days
Remaining: 7 daysLast edited on 23 March 2009 11:17 pm by OzScotty
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OzScotty
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Posted: 25 March 2009 04:43 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 16 days
Remaining: 5 days
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OzScotty
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Posted: 26 March 2009 08:04 pm |
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GOAL: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 17 days
Remaining: 4 days
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OzScotty
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Posted: 26 March 2009 08:36 pm |
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I have recently reverted to having smaller meals more frequently. My impression was that eating more often added to my problems, because it forced me to more regularly focus on food. I also had a bit of success eating 3 meals a day in the middle of last year, which made fewer meals seem more attractive.
Apart from that period in the middle of last year though, it hasn't been working for me. I have no real clue as to why it worked then but not since, but it has probably taken me longer than it should have to realise. I figured that as i have a tendency to become obsessive about food, that eating less often would be good for me, becuase it means i have to think about what to eat less times each day.
Unfortunately, when you have less meals, it means that each meal needs to be more complex, so that you can get the nutrition you need. So, it hasn't generally seen the kind of reduction in 'think time' that i was hoping for. The relative success i had in the middle of last year meant that i continued to try and follow this structure even when it wasn't working for me. I have done that plenty of times before too with a few different diets that i had some short term success on.
Anyway, as i said, i have been eating smaller meals just recently. What i like about it is that my meals have become simpler. I suspect that could be more important in preventing unprodictive food obsessiveness than merely eating less often.
No matter what eating pattern i have on any given day, and i think it is likely that in different circumstances different patterns will suit (i think i have often become too committed to the process), what i need to do is make sure my energy intake is low enough for me to lose weight.
I know that is not a revelation, most people with even a rudimentary understanding of weight loss understand the 'energy in - energy out' equation. I guess the point is that everything else is secondary to that, and only matters insofar as it helps me keep my energy intake low enough to lose weight.
Recently my overall energy intake has seemed like too big a problem for me to control. Suddenly it somehow seems manageable, i think at least in part due to my 'simpler' small meals. So I now feel ready to go beyond just focussing on narrow problem areas, such as my goal not to eat sweets after dinner, which i still intend to reach.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 26 March 2009 08:50 pm |
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GOAL2: 21 days under 10,000kj
Completed: 0
Remaining: 21
I have always struggled to deal with situations where it is difficult to know the energy content of a meal. My tendency has been to just not worry about it if i can't have very specific details, which has meant i eat too much. So i have effectively forced myself to choose between any kind of social eating (at restaurants ot at other people's houses) and being accountable for what i eat.
Obviously that is not a good thing. So, for this goal, i will use estimates based on the best information available to me, rather than using it as an excuse to give up.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 28 March 2009 06:03 am |
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GOAL1: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 18 days
Remaining: 3 days
I was a little over 10k kj yesterday so Goal2 still has 0 days complete.
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ShannonOfDoom
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Posted: 29 March 2009 06:57 am |
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Scotty get yourself one of those little calorie books, they're only $10 and they fit in your pocket. (just go to the counter of any book store & they will know what you're after) I don't leave home without mine, it is the single best tool for weight loss!
Don't leave it up to guess work. The book has saved me from more 800+ cal meals than I care to mention.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 29 March 2009 07:23 am |
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ShannonOfDoom wrote: Scotty get yourself one of those little calorie books, they're only $10 and they fit in your pocket. (just go to the counter of any book store & they will know what you're after) I don't leave home without mine, it is the single best tool for weight loss!
Don't leave it up to guess work. The book has saved me from more 800+ cal meals than I care to mention.
I have 3 of those books, from various years. That is where i get my "best information" from. They are great for most things, and i refer to them heaps.
I have tended to struggle with home made things when having dinner at a friend's place, and things at restaurants. Information is available, but i seem to go a bit obsessive with it, so when i can't weigh each ingredient, it feels like i am cheating.
I have never thought to make sure i have one in my bag though. That is a good tip. The other day at work i had a couple of cadbury mini eggs, and it took me a while to find nutritional info on them online. Much easier if i had the book with me...and as i said, i have three, so i can just have one in my bag permanently.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 30 March 2009 01:13 pm |
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GOAL1: No after dinner sweet food for 21 days.
Completed: 21 days
Remaining: 0 days
All done.
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OzScotty
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Posted: 6 April 2009 06:37 am |
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Weighed myself today.
125kg
It is nice to see that number starting to move lower.
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ShannonOfDoom
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Posted: 6 April 2009 11:13 pm |
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| Congrats scotty!
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OzScotty
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Posted: 8 April 2009 05:01 am |
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Thanks Shannon. :)
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