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william9636 New Member

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Posted: 3 February 2008 12:27 pm |
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I am on a diet that I heard about from a friend.. I think he just made it up.. It probably is not the most healthy way to go about losing weight but so far I feel pretty good.. I am only taking in 500 calories a day.. No bad calories. for breakfast I have 5 hardboiled eggwhites (80 calories), I take a green pepper with me to work and I have half of it for a mid-morning snack to keep my metabolism going strong (16 calories), then for lunch I have a salad with no cheese, no dressing, and no croutons, I estimate that at around (100 calories), for my mid-afternoon snack I have the other half of the green pepper (16 calories), and for dinner I have 3.5 oz. of boiled chicken breast with some onions sauteed in 0 calorie pam. (around 180 calories). The only thing I drink is water and coffee(black, no sugar or creamer), and no snacks after dinner.. My frien lost 82 ponds in about 3 months on this diet so I figured I would try my will power out! So far.. 22 pounds off in the first 7 days!!! My initial goal was only 4.25 lbs per week for 16 weeks.
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Tratra Distinguished Member

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Posted: 3 February 2008 01:08 pm |
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William....
Are you going to continue eating like this for the rest of your life? Because if you're not, you're going to put the weight back on as soon as you start eating normally again. And faster than you normally would, because you're slowing your metabolism...half a green pepper will not "keep your metabolism going strong". And I can't imagine with such a small amount of food, that you have any energy to exercise? Please reconsider this diet....look at the calculators on this site to figure out your calorie needs and go from there.
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 3 February 2008 01:10 pm |
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Welcome to . [Please read our Posting Guidelines about posting links]
With just 500 calories per day you might find it difficult to get sufficient micronutrients (vitamins, minerals, pytochemicals and fibre) but certainly will find it difficult to get sufficient protein to spare muscle loss.
The guideline I give people is to use the RMR calculators (click 'Calories Burned Calculator' at the top of the page) to figure out their unadjusted RMR (before a lifestyle adjustment is made to the number). If you are obese and wish to see quick results (and the answers are 'yes' to both according to the above introduction) then the guideline is to experiment with eating even less than your unadjusted RMR, but to not go any less than 75% of it without medical supervision [and you've not even seen your doctor]. You have omitted your age and height so I've had to make some rather rough approximations, but if your unadjusted RMR works out at roughly 2000 that means you should go no lower than 1500 calories without close medical supervision - not 500.
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glassdog New Member

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Posted: 3 February 2008 03:24 pm |
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William:
22 lbs. in 7 days sound completely unhealthy to me. I'm all for weight loss, but not so much so fast. And as the others above have stated, it's highly doubtful you'll be able to live your life like this indefinitely. There are only 20 calories in an entire green pepper, 1 g of fiber and 0 fat, chol, sodium, or carbs. Just what in that is giving your metabolism a boost twice a day?
I spent many months with WeightWatchers learning more about nutrition than I'll ever need. However, what I did learn is that you're probably going to do more harm than good the way you're going. If it works for you, so be it, but it sounds scary to me.
Glassdog
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Beth Distinguished Member

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Posted: 3 February 2008 08:13 pm |
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| William, I don't know how old you are, but you're talking about losing around 68 lbs in about 4 months? Have you thought about what is going to happen to your skin in addition to the issues others have raised? I am horrified of having to have surgery to remove loose skin and I've got about 75 lbs to lose in 9 months. I try to live and let live, but it sounds like you're flirting with disaster on several fronts! Please be careful!
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jonibug New Member

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Posted: 4 February 2008 04:24 pm |
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Yeah. Well, guess what? I was on a 500 calorie diet when I did phen/fen back in the day. I lost 75 pounds plus lost some of my hair and my periods stopped. Although I lost 40 pounds in 2 months, my body slowed down so that in the end the average was 10 pounds a month anyway. And, of course, as soon as I started eating again, I gained it all back.
OBVIOUSLY this is unhealthy, impractical and not recommended. Last edited on 4 February 2008 04:33 pm by jonibug
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minus25 Senior Member

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Posted: 6 February 2008 05:10 pm |
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Actually, this might be a bit healthier than most diets. With the exception of the chicken and egg whites. I'd prefer that you introduce maybe 3 bananas, an orange or two, and maybe 6 oz. of wheatgrass into that plan. But that's just me! We all have our radical ideas... When you cut down on calories, you want to be sure ALL of what you do take in are calories that count (and heal).
Oh, the coffee is not great.. but of course I would probably do the same. And consider this a "transitional" diet or plan. Cold turkey diets usually are interim solutions... but I understand the need to keep the coffee into your plan.... It does have somewhat of a laxative or dieuretic effect (which can assist with a bowel movement) but in the long run may make you susceptible to dehydration (and ironically, constipation).
A glorious replacement for coffee is Teeccino but that is not easily found in your local cafe or grocery store.
When you go back to eating "normal", just make sure it's a variant of your current diet. Most of it seems to be non-processed and without heavy carbs. I think that's great.
Please keep us updated. I'm fascinated about where this might take you. Good luck.
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 February 2008 08:24 pm |
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| Hey Minus>>>What's wrong with chicken, eggs, and coffee??? All pretty healthy.
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NevD New Member

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Posted: 6 February 2008 09:14 pm |
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Losing pounds of weight is one thing.... losing pounds of fat is another.
And fat is what you need to lose.
As earlier responses have mentioned, the problem with your present course is likely to be muscle loss. Not recommended for long-term weight maintenance!
You also need some other stuff, like available fats to aid brain functioning.
It's often been remarked on this website, but most diets and regimes will drop weight off your body. Only a sustainable approach will enable you to maintain your metabolistic rate and to maintain any fat loss you might achieve.
I hope you don't do yourself too much damage with your present 'program'.

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Imaw89 Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 February 2008 09:17 pm |
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As many people said it's not a good way too loose weight, not only will you gain more than 22 pounds back, but your going to gain a few extra and it'll be harder when it does because your loosiing muscle which helps burn fat. All you lost is water, and muscle and almost no fat.
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minus25 Senior Member

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Posted: 7 February 2008 12:28 am |
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DaniMae1 wrote: Hey Minus>>>What's wrong with chicken, eggs, and coffee??? All pretty healthy.
Hi DaniMae1 !
Well, I would consider chicken and eggs synonymous with concentrated cholesterol. I don't consider it healthy at all. But I'm no expert, so what do I know.. right?
And coffee is great except for one ingredient: caffeine! But I find it difficult to stay away from myself. Actually, it's worse for me: I can't stay away from the espresso drinks! I'll have 'em 3 or 4 times per week...
Like I said, I'm no expert. All my knowledge (and opinions) are a direct result of reading a number of books, sites, and just keeping an open mind.
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 7 February 2008 02:31 am |
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| DaniMae1, if you are interested in the subject but are at a loss as to where to read about it, you could go to snipurl.com/erapdf and start reading at page 47
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NevD New Member

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Posted: 7 February 2008 10:24 am |
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Well, I would consider chicken and eggs synonymous with concentrated cholesterol
Eggs yes (the yolks anyway) but - chicken high in cholesterol?
As for coffee, there are some very drinkable decaffeinated brands nowadays.
If chicken, eggs and coffee are your only vices, you're doing okay.

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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member

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Posted: 7 February 2008 11:51 am |
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Hey all I know is that I've read a lot about the benefits of coffee and decaf is just as good tasting....eggs, like anything else, are fine in moderation...and chicken can be prepared is so many delicious healthy ways! Plus these 3 things were a staple on my first 40 pounds of weight loss....
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 12 February 2008 04:58 am |
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william9636 wrote: I am on a diet that I heard about from a friend.. I think he just made it up.
I think William made his whole post up.
Peter
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minus25 Senior Member

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Posted: 12 February 2008 05:20 am |
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Peter wrote: william9636 wrote: I am on a diet that I heard about from a friend.. I think he just made it up.
I think William made his whole post up.
Peter
But did you see 60 Minutes on CBS this past Sunday? Feb 10th, 2008?
Hillary Clinton was asked how she keeps healthy... She said she drinks tons of water... and eats hot peppers. She said she swears by it! I immediately thought of this thread when I heard that.
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 12 February 2008 05:24 am |
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Not yet! I Tivoed it and will watch it soon.
I see William's post was edited, and he posted on another forum where he had a link deleted. So I just suspected his post was a ploy to post a link to sell a diet or pills.
If he posts back that I'm wrong, I'll be all apologies. But I see this so often I'm getting pretty cold about it.
Peter
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jonibug New Member

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Posted: 12 February 2008 02:58 pm |
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I agree, it was very suspicious. Thanks for doing that, Peter. 
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 12 February 2008 05:41 pm |
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Something ironic is that these people will post once and never look back. But they start a discussion between people trying to help them. And the discussion helps all those who took part!
Peter
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shanebrownacc New Member

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Posted: 15 July 2012 04:08 pm |
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| William how can you say you lost that much weight in 4 months ? I am new to this forum and I really like to know some easy ways to lose weight :(
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GiGiEatsCelebrities New Member

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Posted: 16 July 2012 12:35 am |
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Sounds like a fad diet that will only result in weight gain to me. You cannot subsist on 500 calories for the rest of your life. That's not healthy. You must eat more than 1200 calories a day and since you're a guy the threshold is even more... around 1500 calories per day. You can still lose weight on that calorie allotment too, you just need to eat healthy foods, which is seems as though you know what those are!
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Ruby claire Senior Member

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Posted: 16 July 2012 12:02 pm |
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| My age is 20f and my height is 5 9"inches Weight is 39kg, could you tell me a perfect diet that help me to gain an expedient weight.
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 16 July 2012 12:48 pm |
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Hi. Are you serious or is that a typo? That works out as BMI 12.7. I would recommend some medical supervision if it is available and you can afford it, in the meantime the basics:
1) you will need to be at a calorie surplus. this will be more calories than your have had before. recovering anorexics may be asked to eat as much as 3000 calories a day. (You may still be able to gain weight on fewer calories.) restricting exercise is also typical.
2) if achieving that surplus is difficult because you are not used to eating, you may need to drink some of these calories. You will typically be eating calorie-dense food groups, for example grains, nuts and seeds, dried fruit, avocados. If too much fibre is a problem you may have to eat some refined products / junk food too.
3) you may be malnurished and need specific attention to nutrients - vitamins, minerals (especially electrolites), protein, omega 3 fatty acids
Can you provide any background information such as how much you have been eating recently, what help or supervision you are getting or have access to, how fast you want to gain?
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kessefinfo New Member

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Posted: 18 July 2012 11:19 am |
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william9636 wrote:
I am on a diet that I heard about from a friend.. I think he just made it up.. It probably is not the most healthy way to go about losing weight but so far I feel pretty good.. I am only taking in 500 calories a day.. No bad calories. for breakfast I have 5 hardboiled eggwhites (80 calories), I take a green pepper with me to work and I have half of it for a mid-morning snack to keep my metabolism going strong (16 calories), then for lunch I have a salad with no cheese, no dressing, and no croutons, I estimate that at around (100 calories), for my mid-afternoon snack I have the other half of the green pepper (16 calories), and for dinner I have 3.5 oz. of boiled chicken breast with some onions sauteed in 0 calorie pam. (around 180 calories). The only thing I drink is water and coffee(black, no sugar or creamer), and no snacks after dinner.. My frien lost 82 ponds in about 3 months on this diet so I figured I would try my will power out! So far.. 22 pounds off in the first 7 days!!! My initial goal was only 4.25 lbs per week for 16 weeks.
Wrong. You are going to find that your metabolism will adapt to the reduced food intake and then you will experience even less weight loss. In fact, part of the starvation response causes the body to retain fat, so this is not an approach that will work for you
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 18 July 2012 03:15 pm |
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kessefinfo, I notice that William has not returned in 4+ years so he probably is not reading this.
I don't think 500 calories would have necessarily been the right number for him, but I have done a lot of reading about the 'starvation response' over these last 4 years and even did a bit of self experimentation and am a lot more relaxed about this concept now. It is only principally relevant to thin people (like myself).
In any event, a slower metabolism is associated with longer life. Check out http://www.crsociety.org
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