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danijill
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Has anyone used this with success? I have heard about the injections and diet and would like more info. I live in  the Dallas area if anyone knows where to go to do this diet under a doctors supervision.

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Hi there!

Human Chorionic gonadodropin (HCG) is a peptide hormone produced in pregnancy.

Is extracted from the subject Urine at this point it is a hormone once is processed, it becomes a drug.

It's  frequentely used as a parenteral medication in fertlity therapy in lieu of luteinizin hormone.

In the presence of one or more mature ovarian follicles, ovulation can be triggered by adminitration of HCG.

HCG should never be used as weight loss teraphy, due to the fact that this drug is not intended to help anyone to lose weight, using this drug for weight loss can be dangerous to your health and in many cases fatal.

 

This drug was banned for the purpose of WEIGHT LOSS back in 1974 by the U.S. FDA, but was not banned for pregnacy therapy, it's ilegal to adminster this drug for that purpose, it will not help anyone lose weight.

Save your money and with it purchase organic food.

I hope this help a lot of desperate overweight people out there.

solo_bx

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The FDA as well as the corporate world have a huge bite on the cash that is coming in due to profits on food. this means that whatever the FDA says and aproves, is nothing but lies and full of #%@&!.  hCG has been proven to work. I am using it and I have lost 10 pounds in the last week. Yes, I eat Organic food and drink lots of water. I also take daily vitamins and I wake up alot happier. Don't listen to this clown, man. I am only one guy here, but if you research further, you'll find out that I am not the only one out here who is cutting on the pounds.  Hope you stay away from skeptics and negative douche bags who are probably part of the same #%@&!in' corporate world to keep you from becoming better.

Desireangel
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Hi,

I`m interested in that as well, how did you buy it & how much do you use??? Rosy

Paco
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I learned from the book "The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You To Know About"

you can find the book in any book store. I researched before going into it. my research went as far as Europe and Mexico just to see if there was any inconsistency with the information I was reading. I found it that it is true and that people are using this program. is not a diet since you are not really cutting on food, rather a form of getting your metabolism back to its original state and keeping it that way forever.

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Paco wrote: I learned from the book "The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You To Know About"


Wikipedia has an interesting account of the author here: ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau

For what it is worth (looking at the full title of the book) I don't think you can lose 30lb in 30 days. Well, not 30lb of fat, anyway. If you're interested in raising your metabolism you could do worse than reading Raise Your Metabolism and Burn More Calories

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Paco
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Nothing is impossible, my friend. I'm sure you're one of those skeptics who doesn't believe in the power of mind. It's cool though.

There are three kinds of people in this world, The optimistic, the pesimistic and the one who has no grounds to make a decision what he wants to make.  People are here for a reason, and that reason is to find solutions to get rid of the fat that alot of us have been trying to get rid of for a long time. From personal experience, I use to weight 280 lbs. that was when I was 21 years old.  I made the desicion to go to the gym 6 days a week and I dropped 100 lbs in one year. I kept the weight off for almost 10 years, Now i'm 32, and still have alot of body mass which 30% is fat.

I came across this book that I am now reading and so far I've lost ten pounds in a week. sadly, some people are going to doubt, but that's how the world works. Anyhow, I'm here to relay that info and point people out what has worked for me.  Besides, the point of the program i'm going about loosing weight is, not just to loose weight, but to reset my metabolism to its original state and not worrying about gaining weight so fast.  

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How did you lose weight so fast? I've heard of this book, and I've been told his "recommendations" are ridiculous. Shots and colon flushes and organic foods (which are good), but the normal person has neither the time or means to follow this plan!


Paco
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Well, the book specifies certain things and the book does say that it can be a bit hard to do everything, but if some of the things are followed in phase 1, phase 2 would be alot easier. I'm just going about how the book does and I am not doing everything that they recommend, because i'm like you, I don't have the time to do everything!:-)

Desireangel
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What book is it & by whom? Thanks Rosy

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Paco wrote: the book "The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You To Know About"

by Kevin Trudeau. (see above!)

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  • To say that hCG can be fatal is absolutely absurd.
  • It is derived from pregnant women's urine.
  • It is human and absolutely all natural.
  • If you know of a pregnant woman,
  • -And you don't like talking shots..
  • I've heard you can get the same results or better from taking an enema with the urine of a pregnant woman.
  • If you don't have access to a pregnant woman's urine,
  • Naturalhcg.com is a terrific site for all your hCG info.
  • You can download Dr. Simeon's book for FREE at naturalhcg.com
  • I am very satisfied with their service.

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fsahurie
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Arent these pills hazardous to ones health?:shock:

Paco
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HCG are not pills. these are injections. and no, they are not hazarous.

fsahurie
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Paco wrote:  they are not hazarous.
Well, as opposed to what solo_bx said, there are different opinions regarding this.First you say Diet Coke(with no calories) make people gain weight, and now you are saying that another non natural thing is healthy?I do beg to differ......:nono:

Paco
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Actually, HCG is all natural. it's a hormone created by pregnant women.

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Paco wrote: hormone created by pregnant women.

Now, if that text would be in the middle and front of the pill case and box, that brand or company would run out of business!:chewing:

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fsahurie,

You could be right, but it could be worse. A friend recently had parts of a :pig: put into them in an operation.

Come to think of it, if you have ever eaten a hot dog... well, I don't think you would have if you knew what they contained.

Hint:  Note that pure beef doesn't mean that it's all meat.  Just all from a :cow:.

Peter:monkey:

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It's sad how people believe the craziest things and don't focus on the positive side of things. There are over 6 Billion people in this sphere and you are talking about pigs and cows. Where in the world did you come out with that idea!?!? Dude, Women are getting pregnanat everyday, I know the moral of your story, but what do cows and pigs and meat have to do with the subject at hand???

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Paco,

fsahurie thought it would scare people away to hear that HCG could be tied in to pregnant woman.

I was trying to say that wasn't so awful. After all, people are taking parts from pigs every day and people don't think anything of it.

Further, they would be horrified to find what they eat in hot dogs every day.

So my thought was that perhaps there was no need to fuss about HCG being tied to pregnant woman.

Peter Dude:monkey:

Paco
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opps, my mistake!:-)
i misunderstood and a guy like myself is hard to admit when he's in the wrong, but I am!:-)

let's carry on, sha'll we!?!?

Desireangel
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Hi,

I`m doing the HCG diet doing well on it. Started Monday lost 8lbs and feel so much better. Let me know if you need any other INfo. Rosy

Paco
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Ok, what solo stated is completely incorrect. I have seen results and there has not been nothing better in my life that I have tried that has not work. I can recommend you read Weight loss cure they don't want you to know about. by Kevin Trudeau. if you feel that the information in that book is ilegitimate, you could disregard this reply and continue with your search. the reason why the FDA vanned HCG was because they knew this product would bring their investments down and they would lose millions dollars. The product works, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. 

Here's a prime example of what the FDA has covered up:

youtube.com/watch?v=XS3mhjt7TrY

Naturally, Bayer has fiercely denied these claims, claiming that the drug was infected without there knowledge; however, inside documents prove them to have been trying to work with the FDA to cover up the issue.
What happened: Bayer came out with a drug for hemophiliacs.  However, it was quickly discovered that the drug (which was made primarily of human blood products) was tainted with the AIDS virus.  The FDA wouldn't allow Bayer toi sell the drug domestically, so they sold it overseas, specifically in France, Spain, and Japan among other places.  So thousands of innocent hemophiliacs and their families have been infected with the virus.
The allegation: It is alleged that Bayer knew about the fact that the drug was tainted and told the FDA to keep things under wraps while they made a profit off of a drug that infected its patients.  If these allegations are true, then both Bayer and the FDA are at fault for this catastrophe.
The defense:  Bayer claims that it did not know about the drugs being contaminated or the repercussions of selling the tainted drug at the time (this was before alot was known about AIDS).
What do you think?  Does corporate greed justify ignorance?

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rcurtin2
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Solo-bx, where do you get your information? There are so many errors in what you wrote. hCG is a peptide but is not classified as a hormone. It is present in all people in all tissues,although the medical field does not understand it role outside of pregnancy and to stimulate the gonads. Since it is a peptide produced by all humans, how do you know what it is intended to do? Why is it produce by an infant or todler? Why is it in all their tissues?  It is removed form urine, but remains the same as it was in the bloodstream, it is not altered to become a drug. It is still just the same peptide.

It has never been banned by the FDA and has been available continuously. They did issue an advisory that they found no evidence it helped people lose weigth and therefore should not be used as a weight loss drug. However the studies they used showed that on a Very low calorie diet, both hCG and placebo patients lost the same amount of weight. Their studies did not measure  where the weight was lost, if the body was reshaped in either group,  or if the weight was regained in either group. So the FDA studies does not at all address the claims of those who advocate the use of hCG for weight loss. It is ocnsidered an off label use. It is not illegal for a medical doctor to precribe it.

The use of hCG has a very low incidence  of any side effects. Death was not one of them. No one has ever died due to administration of hCG. If it caused death, pregnant women would be dropping like flies as the amount of hCG in pregnant women is thousands of times the amount one would find in the bloodstream of the dieters.

The question remains if it resets the hypothamus as claimed. I wish our government would take an honest look at the issue.

You lying to desperate people does not help anyone.

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rcurtin2,

Thank you for the information you posted.  You seem to be one of the few in this forum that has any straight answers. I personally have lost 23 lbs. in 30 days using this protocol, and am having no problem keeping it off.  I know I would never have been able to maintain a 500 cal. diet, without the hCG protocol, yet the studies insist that there was no difference between hCG and the placebo. Furthermore, I have never felt better.  I will begin another round of hCG in about a week to lose the remaining 24 lbs. 

My question for you is,  can you tell me where I can find any medical documentation and/or legal information that supports this protocol? You posted that the FDA did not ban it, and  that it IS legal.  Those who criticize it,  maintain there are countless studies prooving it's  inefficacy and detrimental to one's health.   I need something substantial, like studies or documentation, to throw back at them.  I don't even tell people the truth about how I lost the weight anymore because I'm tired of arguing with them. I'm tired of having to deffend what I'm doing.  Can you steer me in the right direction?  GS

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It's unbelievable that the FDA tries to say that there was no difference between the hcg and the placebo group.  I don't know about any of you but if I was on a 500 calorie diet without any help from the hcg I would be insane and dying of starvation.  This was well pointed out when my body became immune to the hcg at 5 weeks, which it does at 5-6 weeks.  You have to take 6 weeks off with no sugars or starch and then do another round.  Anyway last week which was my 5th week on Wed I started to get really hungry.  On Thursday  I woke up starving and by lunch I was ravenous and losing my mind.  Keep in mind that I had been on this diet for 5 weeks and the whole time I had little to no hunger and I was full of energy.  I finally realized that the hcg was not working any more and it was time to take 6 weeks off.  The difference was so huge, it is completely obvious how well the hcg works at releasing enough calories of fat to nourish you and keep you from being hungry. 

This is the 2nd time that I have done this diet.  I did it last year and lost 30 pounds in 5 weeks.  Unfortunately I gained the weight back because I didn't finish phase 3 as outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You to Know About.  I had friends who did the diet right after me and have kept the weight off for over 1 year by finishing phase 3 and living following the principles in phase.  This time I have lost 22 pounds so far and you'd better believe that I will finish phase 3&4 and keep the weight off.  And the best part is the body reshaping, not just pounds lost.  The 22 pounds I've lost looks more like 40.  The hcg causes your body to release adipose fat and not muscle or structural fat.  Look into the studies, there are a ton of them out there. 

And for you Kevin Trudeau naysayers out there.  The man has a past, so what!!  He is just a reporter, he has extensively researched this diet.  This is not his therapy, he's just reporting on it.  Do your own research, this works. 



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