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jdogg105
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Posted: 27 July 2005 06:31 pm |
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| I discovered a program located in Florida that uses HCG and Phentermine as a weightloss solution. I was wondering if anybody has ever used either product and do they have any major side effects? I am very interested in going on the program because I have friends that are currently on the program and they are losing several pounds per week. Can anyone shed some light on this matter??? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advanced for all your responses.
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Cynda
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Posted: 30 August 2005 10:04 pm |
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| Hi.....my sister was on those and she lost a tremendous amount of weight and has kept it off for 2 years now. She went from a size 18 to a 0 and sometimes 00 :D. I am now on it myself (I just started last week) and so far I have lost a total of 13 lbs. I am not hungry and fell great. I still want to lose 106 lbs so I have a long way to go. Any suggestions here would be appreciated also.
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Peter
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Posted: 30 August 2005 10:17 pm |
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Hi Cynda,
Congrats on your weight loss.
I don't know anything about this subject so I won't say much. But unless you plan to stay on drugs or supplements all your life, you will eventually need to learn to eat well. So please be working on that, too.
Peter
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Cynda
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Posted: 31 August 2005 12:01 am |
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Hi Peter and Thank You.
I don't plan on being on them forever I am just using them this first month (thats all) to help out on my change of diet. I have already changed the way I eat and more importantly the things I eat. Walking is now a part of my everyday life and I plan on keeping it that way. I have been for the past few months giving up on things that I really like that I knew would be hard to stop cold turkey. I no longer wake up thinking I have to have a soda before I open my eyes and it's been 4 weeks since my last one and I really can't believe that I have done it and I don't even think about it much at all and now I can go into any place and just order water. I also have given up on salt and no more junk food or fast food for me. It's healthly vegetables and fruits as much as anything. I vowed to lose 119 lbs by next Christmas and if I continue to eat and exercise properly I know I can achieve it. I joined this site hoping i'd have encouragement from others to keep at it and so far it's been a really cool site. Thanks for watching out for people and looking out for there best interests. 
Cynda
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Peter
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Posted: 31 August 2005 02:42 am |
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Great!
Peter
P.S.
Sorry... just can't resist adding... what's important is what you're learning and the progress you're making. If you want to set a specific weight loss goal, fine. But it you miss it it DOESN'T mean you've failed!
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MissPretty1908
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Posted: 13 September 2005 08:06 am |
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| I started the HCG shot (here in Florida) about two weeks ago. The very first week, I lost 4.6 pounds, and during the second week, I lost two inches from my bustline, waist and hips. A friend of mine introduced me to the clinic. She completed the eight weeks, and went from a size 12-14, down to an 8-10. They say on average, if you use the shot ALONG WITH the diet, it works, but the diet is IMPORTANT, or you won't lose anything. It really teaches you to eat better, and forces you to think about everything you put in your mouth. Honestly, I love the clinic, and the entire plan. I've already dropped one size... and I'm looking forward the future results. What I do like about the clinic, is they do blood work, there is doctor and nurses in the office, and they really do care. If you try it, I'm sure you'll like it.:)
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Missy S
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Posted: 11 October 2005 11:03 pm |
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| How can I get started?
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verysherryberry
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Posted: 12 October 2005 12:42 am |
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Phentermine works by triggering a fight-or-flight response. It acomplishes this by changing the Seratonin levels in the brain and releasing Adrenaline and other related chemicals. This can result in, among other things, heightened blood-pressure, a feeling of panic, insomnia (or, in some, drowsiness) and a loss of appetite.
It is only recommended for moderate weight-loss and for short-term use. Some contra-indications for use are: it is known to be dangerous for people who are already suffering from high blood-pressure or Glaucoma. It can be addictive, and abruptly quitting use of Phemtermine (going "cold turkey") has been known to cause lethargy, depression, and similar related conditions. Some other known side effect include changes in insulin requirements (hyper or hypo glycemia) as well as loss of sexual function (impotence).
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine [Wikipedia]
http://www.medicinenet.com/phentermine/article.htm [Medicine Net]
http://www.fda.gov/cder/news/phen/fenphenqa2.htm [FDA.Gov]
What is hCG?
Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) is a hormone that is produced by the placenta of a pregnant woman. It is detectable in the blood and urine within 10 days of fertilization and hence forms the basis of all pregnancy tests. Because human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) is produced by the placenta, the presence of HCG in a woman's blood indicates that she is most probably pregnant. A pregnancy blood test or a pregnancy serum test measures the exact amount of the pregnancy hormone, human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), in the bloodstream.
why would anyone do this?
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MissPretty1908
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Posted: 12 October 2005 06:05 am |
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This website should answer your questions...
http: //www.yweight.cc/
It's been six weeks, and I'm still doing well. I've lost a total of 16 inches overall from waist, arms, thighs, and chest. In pounds, I've lost 15 pounds. The diet is pretty strict, and if I really sticked to it, I would have lost more, but I'm happy with my results, and have gotten numerous compliments. They do assist with maintenance once you've reached your goal weight and you decide that you no longer want to do the shots. You can check in weekly for weigh ins and advice for no charge. They do offer herbal supplements to assist in boosting your metabolism, and offer advice on what diet will assist you in maintaining your goal weight. You do the shots for 5 days per week, for 8 weeks, then take 3 weeks off, because after 8 weeks your body becomes immune to it, so you take a break for three weeks, and you can begin again if you choose. I haven't reached my goal weight yet, so I will more than likely do them for a second cycyle, but after that, we'll see what happens. My friend that introduced me to the clinic looks awesome. She hasn't done the shots in three months, and she has maintained her goal weight. She maintains a healthy diet with a splurge here and there, but nothing out of control. Do the research for yourself, and determine what's best for you. The nurses at the clinic will provide you with plenty of information for you to make an informed decision. Good luck! :)
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titli
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Posted: 14 October 2005 10:17 pm |
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I started the program this August ever since then i have lost 7 pounds. I have lost 12 inches of my body. I would have lost more but i don't really follow the diet like i should.
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verysherryberry
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Posted: 21 October 2005 12:00 am |
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| do you think it might have something to do with the diet and the excercise? these things are addictive....
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MissPretty1908
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Posted: 21 October 2005 06:31 am |
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| VerySherry, thanks for the insight with the websites you've posted. I've concluded my 8 weeks and at this point I haven't experienced any of the potential side effects from the sites you posted. I have friends that completed the program back in late June/early July, and they haven't experienced any of the side effects either. They've been able to maintain their weight also. While I haven't personally seen any evidence of the side effects in those that I do know, I won't take it lightly that those things could occur. But I also think that the side effects, if they occured, occured in those that continued the shots for an extended period of time. I know there are some that have continued them for a period of several months for a chronic obesity problem, as was told to me by the nurses. Luckily, I don't have that problem, and won't need to continue the program to that extent. I will check in with the nurses for maintenance.... Thus far, I've lost 16 pounds, and feel quite well. My blood pressure has maintained at 120/80, and I plan to continue eating healthy. :)
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tman875
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Posted: 8 December 2005 04:50 pm |
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I have currently lost 20 lbs on this program. I really enjoy how I feel now & have dropped 2 pant sizes! I lost all of this weight WITHOUT using the appetite suppressants, just the hCG injections & diet.
verysherryberry, they use a VERY SMALL dosage of hCG. One injection is 125 units & during pregnancy, a woman would produce between 5,000 - 100,000 units.
The point of the injections is to break down the abnormal stored body fat. This, in conjunction with an 800 calorie diet helps you lose weight as well as inches.
Now that I am done with the program, they have taught me healthier eating habits and tell me that if ever I need support or have questions that I can come in and speek to one of the nurses.
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tman875
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Posted: 8 December 2005 04:50 pm |
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Also, you are weighed and get your blood pressure by a nurse every visit. If there is something wrong, you will be seen by their doctor and he/she will determine if you will be able to do any prescriptions that week.
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Terii
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Posted: 24 May 2006 07:28 pm |
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Phentermne is great.. but it does have some nasty side effects!
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kmauryo
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Posted: 5 August 2006 11:49 pm |
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| Note! On Phentermine you will lose weight but you will also lose your spirit, your conscience, your integrity and your relationships. It changes the internal brain compound sort of like a " Dr. Jeykl & Mr.Hyde" concoction. It had me so frantic that I would open the capsules and put the granules on my tongue to get into my system faster. Be afraid be very afraid.for some people it is the devil. Works differently on many people when I take it within 45mins. I am on the floor scrubbing by hand, repainting the house, reorganizing, and moving 100 miles per hour. Gave the exact same pill to my brother and he went into a deep sleep. what gives?
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rebalose
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Posted: 28 September 2006 10:47 pm |
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| Ijust started this diet myself.Ionly need to lose 10 lbs. Iwas eating very wrong, mostly at night. I was curious if anyone here got the shots and the meds before your blood work returned to the doctor in the clinic? I did one week later and I was told to take the results to my own doctor. My results came back with a high potassium count. I have not been told to discontinue use. The results are coming in the mail though. My doctor is very upset with all and does not like this HCG buisness. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. I have lost 3 lbs. so far. If I were excersizing more I would lose faster. Thanks
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kmauryo
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Posted: 29 September 2006 10:11 am |
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| What is HCG? Never heard of it before your reply! And I thought I was on the up & up ...
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Aria82
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Posted: 16 November 2006 04:42 am |
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| Hopefully someone will reply since it's been a while since the last post. But I and some of my coworkers are doing Phentermine. I only have about 35lbs to lose. And I've been working out regularly like 5 days a week. I'm using it to help curb my eating. I'm the kind who eats well during the day, and for most nights in the week, but it's really the weekends when it all goes to waste. I've been on Phentermine for 3 full days now. And I feel pretty good. I'm in good health and have good blood pressure. I'm really just hoping to get a good boost to my weight loss. I've lost about 76 lbs in the last 18 months since I've had my daughter but for the past several months I've been gaining and losing the same 5 lbs. I'm trying to get most of my weight at least 20 lbs off by the end of the year because in January I'm starting to look for my wedding gown!!! Any thoughts on those who have used just Phentermine would be nice.
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rebalose
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Posted: 17 November 2006 03:34 am |
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| Hello It has been a while since I posted. I see there has been lot's of responces. I only did this hcg and pills for 2 weeks. I got scared of the shot. I did start a diet called The Flash Flush diet and lost and additional 3 lbs. I did lose 5 lbs on the Transformation Medical Diet first. This new diet is great very organic. Very similar to the first diet I was on. I lost a total of 8 lbs. and I am happy with that. I only needed to lose 10 lbs anyway. Happy Holidays!!
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nadeans mommy
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Posted: 11 December 2006 06:24 am |
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I just wanted to add that I used this program about 2 yrs ago and lost 45 lbs in 5 months. The program is great. The appetite suppressants can give some weird side effects. I was always ''wired'' which wasn't too bad for those long nights of cramming for an exam.. it can give you really dry mouth which can associate BAD BREATH 
I just had a baby 3 months ago and gained 60 lbs, so I plan on starting the program again...but this time WITHOUT the Phentermine :)
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Desireangel
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Posted: 13 March 2007 12:19 pm |
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 Hi, can you tell me what type of doctor could I get the HCG-injections from?
But from Scottsdale, Arizona?
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nadeans mommy
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Posted: 13 March 2007 09:48 pm |
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Hi, you can get the hcG injections from Transformations medical weightloss clinic.
ht tp://www.transformationsmedicalweightloss.com/
Good Luck!! Last edited on 13 March 2007 11:51 pm by
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lmyrna
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Posted: 16 March 2007 07:34 am |
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| Did you find a place in Scottsdale that you could get the hcg injections? Would be very interested. Afterall, isn't the estrogen women take for menopause from horse's urine? Hense: Pre'mare'ine. I believe I would rather take a human hormone. Last edited on 16 March 2007 07:43 am by lmyrna
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Desireangel
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Posted: 16 March 2007 07:50 am |
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Hi,
Can you tell me how the pills worked for you & tell me more about that diet? Thanks Rosy
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nadeans mommy
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Posted: 16 March 2007 07:00 pm |
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sorry, don't know a place in scottsdale.
if you're even in florida though, you can go to the first inital appointment and then they would be able to mail you the meds you need. I asked about this, they said they have a lot of people out of state that do this.
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brilliantjeni
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Posted: 1 May 2007 08:52 pm |
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| HCG is great for weightloss if you need a strong dose of behavior modification. I've lost over 50 lbs and kept it off for 5 years now because of HCG. I was referred to it by my friend who lost almost that and has kept it off for over 8 years now and has a figure like Deborah Messing! You can find info at hcgdietinfo.com along with a directory of hcg providers and clinics in various locations. Or you can search googleforweightloss.com and it will make it easier to find the information since it only returns weightloss and diet related websites. Hope this helps and good luck! Last edited on 2 May 2007 01:35 am by
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dp1069
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Posted: 6 June 2007 12:43 am |
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| Hi I am From SHelby NC. I was grossly over weight and was very skeptical at first to try any type of weight loss program. I found on called Totally Fit 4 Life. They have change my life. I have lost over 60 pounds and feel so wonderful. It is a great program becuase they not only give you a diet program to follow, which by the way is not a fad diet but one you can live with, but they also give you an exercise program and use phentermine as an appaetite suppressant. Which works wonderfully. I had very few side effects while taking the medication. the worst was dry mouth. I also used the HCG injections. Which were absolutley great!!!! I saw termendous inch loss while taking this injection. It also helped with my PMS and moodiness. I would reccommend this program toanyone trying to loose weight. They have two clinics in NC ... one in Hickory and one in Shelby NC. If you do choose a program make sure youget the individual attention i did at Toatlly Fit 4 LIfe.
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Desireangel
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Posted: 6 June 2007 08:52 am |
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| So when you are doing the HCG shots, how much of a calorie diet are you on to loose weight. And how does it work for people who work alot? Thanks Rosy
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fitness1
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Posted: 9 June 2007 01:12 am |
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Try the hcg provider directory on hcgdietinfo.com The site also has general information on the hcg diet, a copy of the original hcg diet manuscript by Dr. Simeons, hcg diet recipes, tips for mixing, diet instructions, etc, etc, etc.
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mwpx3
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Posted: 16 July 2007 09:21 am |
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| Hi, I am new here and have some questions for those of you going to transformations medical weight loss clinic. I have been over weight most of my life, about 2 years ago I lost 50lb using phentermine and exercise. I just recently had a baby and have gained back about 60lbs. I came across transformations web site and am very intrigued about their use of HCG in conjuction with diet and exercise. Can anyone tell me how much the initial visits and those thereafter cost? Money is somewhat tight right now. Also, I am blessed with hypothyroidism but my lab levels are under control. I have never been to any weight loss clinic, will my thyroid problem keep me from being a patient?
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plumeria_2121
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Posted: 30 July 2007 09:15 am |
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Hi there.
I just started the HCG injections last week and will only be getting them once a week due to the fact that it's quite a drive to the medical office that administers them. While the shots are financially do-able for me, the drive cuts into my 9-5 work day by at least an hour or so even with their earliest appt time which is 8:00am. The doctor mentioned that once a week should be fine for me as I only really want to lose 20-25 pounds and already eat a really low-cal diet and exercise. However I've cut my calories from 1200 a day to between 800-1000 (never going over) and while I don't weigh myself (I get too depressed when I do so I go off how the clothes fit), I've noticed some slimming in my upper legs and hips area. My pants fit looser. Almost to the point that they're falling off!
I do have a question to those of you who have had success with the HCG injections though. How many times a week were/are any of you receiving them? Like any of you, I want this weight to come off as quickly as possible and see that some have lost up to 10 pounds per week! I don't know that I could dip as low as 500 calories a day unless I took an appetite suppresant. Does anyone have any advice for me? I've done my research and truly feel this is the way to go but I want to make sure I'm doing EVERYTHING right to make this weight loss HAPPEN!
Thank you for your time and I look forward to any advice from those of you who are PRO-HCG for weight loss.
Best!
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festefool
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Posted: 28 November 2007 05:06 pm |
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Phentermine is a nasty substance. At 5'6'', I weighed around 145. I was not happy with that weight and wanted to get back down to my pre-baby weight of 125. The first week on Phentermine was wonderful. I dropped 10lbs and really cleaned my house. However, it also made me irritable and edgy. The positive effects lessened and the negative effects increased. Eventually I had to choose between being a little heavier, being a good mother, and having a realationship or being thinner and alone. After quitting the pills, I gained weight and I am now 170lbs. If I had left my body alone...I would be in the 140's. I was not fat before and I feel that this is a common trap that women fall prey to. When I look back at the pictures where I am on speed, I look thin but unhealthy. I'm sure this is not what anyone wants to hear...but....eat better, exercise and appreciate the body that you have. If you are overweight, exercise more and eat fewer calories. Boring...eh? 
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kvegas
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Posted: 6 December 2007 01:17 am |
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 In our town we have a weight loss center called weight loss and wellness in Statesville Nc . They have a program with the Hcg shots and phenetermine pills, together they work. My neighbor started on Nov 1st she has lots of enery and does not feel hungry. By Nov 30 She had lost a total of 20 pounds. She looks Great. The cost is $140- $160 a month. Quite expensive. But well worth the money. The Hcg shots are given once a week at home or doctor office. You get 4 per month. The pills are 37.5mg, You take a half pill a day for 30 days. They really work. Lots of energy, a feeling of well being. I am excited to see how my neighbor does the next couple of onths and I will report back. www. Letsgetthin.com
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losser88
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Posted: 3 January 2008 06:25 am |
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Desireangel wrote:
Hi, can you tell me what type of doctor could I get the HCG-injections from?
But from Scottsdale, Arizona?
Hey im new to this forum but been browsing it for some months on and off. It will be hard for you to get a script from a doctor for hgc unless you are clinically obese. I tried 3 doctors and they all told me the same thing, eat right and excersize. I was 330 pounds this time last year and with the help of hcg injections and i personal trainer i am now just over 220 pounds.
I am also part of a hgc support group which is part of yahoo groups and we all get our hcg from drug delivery.ca
drugdelivery.ca/s33559-s-HCG-PREGNYL.aspx
please join us on yahoo groups in your interested
health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HcgDieters/
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fitness1
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Posted: 4 February 2008 08:21 pm |
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Cynda, I think that is fantastic. I read the success story by the editor of hcg diet info and saw that's what she did as well. It's inspiring to hear it's working for you too!
Desireangel- before you purchase hcg, you may want to try the hcg provider directory on hcg diet info.com... if you haven't already. I've noticed a lot of people are quick to suggest importing hcg for weight loss, but there are soooo many doctors and weight loss clinics that follow the hcg protocol now, and it really makes it easier to have a doctor to direct all your questions to. Plus, then you can come back here and share the information he/she tells you ;)
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weightlossdoc
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Posted: 13 February 2008 04:02 pm |
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Dr. ATW Simeons operated a weight loss clinic in Rome, Italy in the 70s. After 30 years of experience, he perfected his treatment of obesity by combining a very low calorie diet with the injection of hcg. In his clinical outcome study, he found his patients would lose .5 to 1.5 pounds per day.
The treatment is not FDA approved for weight loss, however it has since been shown to increase the rate of fat loss when compared with just the diet.
This treatment can be combined with phentermine to help with appetite control, however it is not required.
Hcg is available as a prescription item only through a physician.
People interested in learning more can visiting www. hcgobesity.org for research and information on this wonderful weight loss program.
This program is also offered from a physician at Skinovative Laser Center located in Chandler, AZ. They can be reached at 480-855-7546
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christyjune
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Posted: 1 April 2008 07:31 pm |
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| Yes. I live in Scottsdale and just started on HCG. Dr. Linda Wright is the woman to call.
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CheriG
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Posted: 3 April 2008 09:17 pm |
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I live in Scottsdale too. I started this last week with hcg. I hope this is the thing to help my metabolism get in shape.
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christyjune
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Posted: 3 April 2008 10:50 pm |
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| Hi CheriG. Where do you get your HCG. I like that I'm getting it from the Dr. and that she is supervising my program -- I go in weekly for weigh in an blood pressure check. However, she is very expensive. I'm thinking I will probably want to do a second round in a few months. Do know how to safely order HCG online, or any other way of getting it in Scottsdale?
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CheriG
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Posted: 3 April 2008 11:33 pm |
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Hi,
I am going to medshape in Mesa. I will go every two weeks and get wieghed, and pick up enough syringes for two weeks. This is also Dr. supervised and it is 960.00 dollars. Is your person in Scottsdale? And how are you doing? This is day 5 of VLCD
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christyjune
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Posted: 3 April 2008 11:52 pm |
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CheriG -
Her name is Dr. Linda Wright, and her office is in the Scottsdale Airpark -- Scottsdale road and Butherus. The cost for the first round is $1400.00. I am only on day 3 of the VLCD, and lost 4 lbs. on days 1&2. I've been hungry, so she increased my dosage to 150cc/day.
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CheriG
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Posted: 4 April 2008 12:07 am |
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| I had no idea about someone closer. I accidentally found this one when I was on the internet looking for hormone pellets. I didn't know about hcg until then. I have read on alot of sites where they are getting this through the mail. I may try that in the future. At medshape I supppose to be enrolled for up to a year or goal weight. I wonder if your diet is the same as mine.
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christyjune
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Posted: 4 April 2008 12:39 am |
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| It is Dr. Simeon's protocol -- 40 injections and 500cal/day diet. That is what costs $1400.00. If I decide I want to do a 2nd or 3rd round, it costs additional. Scottsdale prices, I guess.
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2cute21
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Posted: 29 April 2008 03:40 pm |
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| hi, I heard about the HCG weight lost shot in tampa and i will like the name and # of the clinic if u dont mined
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2cute21
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Posted: 29 April 2008 03:41 pm |
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| can u please send me the name and # please
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want2scrapbook
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Posted: 29 April 2008 08:58 pm |
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I saw this link posted for a clinic in FL
http://www.yweight.cc/
I am just hearing about this...it was on the "Morning Show". I thought it must be something new...but as I do research, it has been around forever.
I have such a hard time losing weight after my hysterectomy...I need to lose like 80 lbs.
I'd be open to learning more about this. I am in Glendale AZ. If anyone knows a reputable clinic here...or a reputable onlline connection...please share!
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CheriG
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Posted: 30 April 2008 05:30 pm |
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Hi,
I totally understand. Weight has always been a problem for me and became more so after going on thyroid, and again after a hysterectomy.
I went to Medshape in Mesa for hcg and they have an office in Glendale. I don't know they are the most attentive group but it is medically supervised.
Best of luck,
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Posted: 30 April 2008 10:42 pm |
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I can tell you that HCG works. Do a search on youtube for HCG and you will find many people who were on the HCG course have posted their daily progress.
I did an extensive reasearch on it and for the record it is not a cure invented by that fraudster kevin T. It is something he too from a doctor.
I am sure it works without side effects, but I would never take it though and I would never recomend it to anyone as a quick fix. Eat healthy and excercise is the way to go.
But I would definately recomend it over lap band surgery and gastric bypass.
It is 3 am in the morning and I need to sleep and i will post again with more details.
I cannot say the same for phentermine, there are results but it may not be healthy. It is drug needless to say so I never researched it in detail.
But HCG is natural hormone produced by the human body and the HCG available is all natural, There is no synthetic HCG, but that is not good news because all HCG is produced from pregnant ladies pee.
More details later, if only you are desperate and are looking towards gastric bypass or alli(yes I would suggest HCG above alli or any other pharmecutical drug)
Otherwise excercise and diet is the way to go.
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ashley88
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Posted: 9 May 2008 12:39 am |
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hey i signed up just to post this as i have been reading all your posts.
I have been researching this stuff for a while now and seen alot of good and bad and still not sure weather to take hcg or not
Phentermine i have not read much of so i will have to look more into that also for weight loss
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rose
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Posted: 15 May 2008 11:22 pm |
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| I just finished with the HCG Diet and lost 44 lb went from size 14 to a 4 and 40% body fat to 22.2%. I went to a doctor in Scottsdale. Dr. Kathy Kamin and I love her. Very caring and helpful.
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| I just finished with the HCG Diet and I love it. I went from 160 lbs to 117 and 40% body fat to 22.2% I also checked it out and Loved that my doctor was doing the diet too. We both look great and would recommend this diet to anyone. I live in Scottsdale and went to Dr. Kathy Kamin. If you have any questions let me know. I love this program so much that I'm now working for her. I love it.
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CheriG
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Posted: 16 May 2008 01:04 am |
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I just finished my 6 wk protocol. I am a little nervous about this next 3 weeks. I went to medshape in Mesa as I didn't know there was a Dr. in Scottsdale. I did not lose as much as you but I did lose. Tell me about where you went if you don't mind.
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rose
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Posted: 16 May 2008 05:59 am |
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| Great job on losing any weight it's a hard thing to do. I went to a Dr. Kathy Kamin at 480-577-6630 in Scottsdale, At the airpark. She is great. She actually did the diet too. I had to do 2 rounds to loose the 44 lbs but it really does work. Let me know if I can help in any way. I love this Dr. so much that I am working for her now.
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Posted: 16 May 2008 04:50 pm |
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| Hi, I have been on thyroid meds for 23 years so I knew that would slow me down a little. But.... I am happy to of lost this much and that was with doing one round. I live North Scottsdale and your location would of been more convienent. Medshape hasn't been bad it just hasn't been great either. I have got most of info on the internet on how to proceed so sometimes I feel lost.
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Posted: 17 May 2008 01:03 am |
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| Don't feel lost just call me at 480-577-6630 to talk about it. I'm on my way to the movies but call this weekend or on Mon. I would love to talk to you.
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thank you,thank you
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I wanted to add that I have started the oral HCG program but it is in Argentina. It is $480 a week and it comes with a lymphatic drainage massage and a mesotherapy treatment each week. I has only been a week and a half and I have lost over 10 lbs, but I want to comment that I was not really extremely over weigh just needed help losing 15 lbs or more in places that were really hard to lose with just diet and exercise. But I met a lady who was really over weight and she said that she has lost 16 lbs in just a few days. He is a great doctor and they are very caring there. The lady said she liked coming here because there wasn't as many distractions to make her cheat from her diet, like a McDonald's on ever corner. Depending on how much weight you need to lose, you don't have to stay here a month they can send you hom with medication. And if you rent an apartment and cook your own meals it isn't too expensive, because I don't know how much it is in the united states, but I read one of the blog and it said $1400 for one week and that is alot because you need to continue onto the next phase.
I recommend it if you have 2 or 3 weeks where you can focus on you and come down to buenos aires...
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tinkerbell
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Rose, how long were you on the program? What did you find to be the most difficult and the easiest about the plan? What do you need to do to maintain? I've just started researching the HCG. I read about it in Kevin Trudeau's book and what he said about the doctor that founded this diet. Still not sure.
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Tinkerbell
Go for it. This diet works. I've lost 18 pounds in 19 days and I feel great. I am full of energy, after the first 4 days I don't really have any hunger until it's time to eat. You just have to commit to it, it's not a diet that you can cheat on. I lost 30 pounds in 5 weeks the first time that I did it but I gained the weight back because I didn't finish phase 3. This time I will finish correctly and maintain my weight loss. I wouldn't do any phetermine or any drug though. This goes againist the priciples of the diet which is to bring back balance to your body. You might lose faster but I suspect that you will not maintain by throwing your body off with drugs. You don't need it anyway, just drink the teas with stevia and along with the hcg hunger is not an issue. Also there are a lot of sources for hcg ranging from $100 for do it yourself to apparently as posted above $1000,s for a clinic. There are mail order places in between that will order blood tests and then prescribe the hcg and send you everything in the mail for self injecting. You just have to pick which method you are comfortable with and able to afford. Good Luck!
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tinkerbell
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Posted: 9 June 2008 03:17 am |
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Thanks katiepen, I've just started checking this and I'm a bit confused. If you don't mind I may email you some more questions. Right now just don't know what to ask.
Tinkerbell
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David P. Morrow
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Posted: 10 June 2008 07:59 pm |
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I agree with Peter very much. You have to ask yourself - Okay, am I going to use these drugs\pills the rest of my life? Is it safe?
The answer is probably 'no'. So what is the best thing to do? Without question, seek out a balanced and realistic lifestyle approach to weight loss \ weight management.
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katiepen
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Absolutely not, you don't have to do this for the rest of your life. That's what the hcg is about, permanent weight loss. It's not just about losing the weight, it's about resetting your hypothymus to function properly and if you follow the eating plan layed out in phase 4 of Kevin Trudeau's book The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You To Know About & exercise moderately then you won't mess it up again and you won't gain the weight back. If done properly this will be the last diet that you ever do. But if you go back to eating chemical laden processed food, artifical sweeteners, msg, fast food, & eat in chain restaurants then don't bother because you will just gain the weight back.
It's important to learn about our food supply and why we are getting fatter & fatter. The food industry is doing it on purpose and unless you educate yourself and start eating whole foods and avoiding the chemicals that they are putting in our food to make us addicted and fat then dieting is a waste of time.
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CrimsonAnimus
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Posted: 4 July 2008 04:16 pm |
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Phentermine is even worse than HCG for side effects.
It's conceivable that so many people have had weight loss from HCG and/or Phentermine, but it's also quite possible that they have damaged their bodies in ways unknown to them.
It's true that every body is different, but I have yet to meet one single person who could not get down to a healthy weight from proper diet and exercise alone, unless perhaps they have a medical condition (and no, I'm not talking about underactive thyroid - all that means is that you'll just have to work a bit harder.)
Most people use fad pills, shots, etc. (and that's exactly what both HCG and Phentermine are - a fad, even if they have been around a long time) so that they don't have to put forth a lot of effort, or because they're not seeing results quickly enough.
For some people, it's harder to lose weight than others. That might be unfair, but that's just the way it is. People in said situation will just have to work harder, and do their research so that they can make knowledgeable health choices.
It's no one's fault but my own that I got up to over 350 pounds. I could sit here and say, "It must be my body's metabolism," or some other such excuse. In the end, though, that's all it is - AN EXCUSE. I, not my body, and not anyone else, chose not to have the willpower to change it at that time.
In the end, it's up to each of us what we do to our bodies, but it's important to take personal responsibility, too. Saying, "I just couldn't lose the weight otherwise" is a pure and simple copout. No, odds are you either were not trying hard enough, or you didn't wait for long enough.
Just a little dose of truth.
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| People, hCG is not a drug it's a hormone that is produced buy the body when pregant. there are no side affects of hCg. The FDA has approved hCG for other medical uses but not weight loss. if there were problems with this hormone then the medical profession would not use it at all. If you are going to "tell the truth" state all of them.
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CrimsonAnimus
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Posted: 4 July 2008 05:57 pm |
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Directly from the FDA's website:
This deceptive practice is injection with HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin). HCG is a hormone extracted from urine of pregnant women. It is approved by FDA for treatment of certain problems of the male reproductive system and in stimulating ovulation in women who have had difficulty becoming pregnant. No evidence has been presented, however, to substantiate claims for HCG as a weight-loss aid.
An article in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) in 1974 stated: "No convincing scientific evidence exists that human chorionic gonadotropin has any pharmacologic effect in weight reduction. Hence, claims to the public that such effects do occur are a misrepresentation of the scientific facts." FDA requires all labeling and advertising of HCG to state that it has not been demonstrated to be effective in the treatment of obesity. The ads must also state that HCG is not approved by FDA as safe and effective in treatment of obesity of weight control.
Yet the use of HCG for weight loss continues. For instance, advertisements for weight-loss clinics using HCG appeared in the Chicago area in the summer of 1982. The ads included the required disclaimer, but in type much smaller than that used to extol the virtues of the clinics' program.
The pill or shot to enable a person to lose weight without danger and without eating less has not been formulated. And the garment or other device to let one firm up or lose inches without moving a muscle has yet to be invented.
It looks like those who want to be slim will have to resort to those old, unglamorous standbys--eating less and exercising more--to shake those excess pounds.
Note the bolded parts - the FDA clearly states that it is not safe as a weight-loss aid.
And HCG can indeed have many side effects, including the following:
An allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of the throat; swelling of the lips, tongue, or face; or hives);
Pain, warmth, redness, numbness, or tingling in an arm or leg (which may indicate a blood clot); or
Confusion, severe dizziness, or severe headache (which may indicate a blood clot in the head).
A small percentage of female patients treated with HCG have developed the ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS), especially after the first cycle of therapy. Symptoms of OHSS include severe pelvic pain, swelling of the hands or legs, abdominal pain and swelling, shortness of breath, weight gain, low urine output, diarrhea, and nausea or vomiting. OHSS can be fatal. Notify your doctor immediately or seek emergency medical attention if you develop any of these symptoms.
Also, Rose, you said:
"If there were problems with this hormone then the medical profession would not use it at all."
So...are you saying that the medical profession always has our best interests at heart? I don't think so. More people are already on drugs than what is actually necessary.
Also, I never said that HCG was a drug. It is a naturally occuring substance, yes, BUT THE BODY DOES NOT PRODUCE IT FOR WEIGHT LOSS. The body produces urea, also. Does that mean it's safe to inject urea into your bloodstream? Be logical.
On a final note, some of the potential side effects are very serious, indeed. It irks me when people like you come here and make outrageous claims like, "This is a miracle treatment and there are no side effects at all!" You also claimed in another thread that none of the people treated by your doctor with HCG experienced any side effects at all. You know this...how? Did your doctor tell you that? Are you just blindly promoting HCG without all the facts? Or do you actually work for this doctor? I'm inclined to believe the latter, based on the way you come across.
In any case, these are people's lives you are messing with here. I'm all for personal choice, but it's critical you present all the facts so that people can make informed decisions.
EDIT: Actually, it appears you do work for this doctor, by your own admission. Not only does that make your opinion biased, but I recommend you do a bit of actual research into HCG, instead of relying on what your doctor says, who clearly appears to have her own interests at heart, not yours or anyone else's.
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katiepen
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Posted: 4 July 2008 10:41 pm |
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CrimsonAnimus
As for the Phentermine I totally agree with you. It is a toxic drug and is NOT a part of the HCG Therapy. Some doctors that are using the hcg therapy also like to prescribe Phentermine but it has no place in this natural therapy and in my opinion works aganist the principles of this diet which is to bring the body back into balance.
As for the FDA statements above they have absolutely no proper research to back up what they are saying. The FDA is a runaway corrupt organization that is being controlled by the billion dollar food and drug organizations whose profits are being threatened by anything that will actually solve the obesity epidemic in this country. If you are going to trust the FDA with your health then I feel for sorry for your future. What have they given us, the recently first ever FDA approved diet drug ALLI whose own literature warns users not to wear white pants(uncontrolled bowels and all) And it's only a matter of time until the side effects start rolling in the lawsuits. And how about all the FDA approved drugs that have been recalled due to thousands of serious health problems and deaths. There are too many to list.
Do your reasearch on the HCG diet and you will find that it has been used since the 50's and when done correctly there are no complications. HCG is a natural substance, not a drug, and the amount used is so small. Any properly done study has proven how well it works. And I have the best research for myself, I have done it, I have many friends who have done it and have had wonderful results and no side effects, well other then being full of energy and having total body reshaping without drugs or surgery. Now that's a side effect that I can handle.
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CrimsonAnimus
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Posted: 4 July 2008 11:52 pm |
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I brought the FDA into my post in response to rose's FDA statement. I realize that the FDA has their own agenda. So do practitioners who endorse HCG. It's really no different.
Yes, there have been serious health problems and deaths associated with recalled drugs. However, there have likewise been serious health problems and deaths associated with HCG. If that was not the case, they wouldn't be listed as potential side effects.
Finally, I have done a good deal of research into HCG. I have also read several people's online testimonials. Many of them have claimed success. Likewise, many have claimed that they wish they had never done it due to resulting health problems.
Also, especially with how long HCG has been used a weight-loss aid, if it was truly as safe and effective as you claim, it would already have become mainstream. Many quack companies would already have been put out of business, similar to when Rogaine came out.
In the end, as I said earlier, we all make our own choices. However, it's important to make informed decisions, and you are clearly either blindly promoting a treatment without really understanding it, or promoting it for your own gain. Most people have enough common sense to not believe statements along the line of, "This weight-loss treatment is absolutely miraculous and nobody ever has any problems with it." Even people who lose weight the right way occasionally have problems.
Finally, hopefully most people won't make any decisions solely based on what we say here, or what doctors say, or what the FDA says. Do your OWN research, and you will see what HCG really is - a potentially dangerous weight loss treatment option that is likely not worth the risks involved, nor even necessary for the vast majority of people. Guys and gals, take time and lose it the RIGHT WAY. Where there is a will, there is a way.
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ashley88
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Posted: 7 July 2008 05:48 pm |
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has everyone seen these hcg diet blogs?
what do you think, it seems that they are losing weight but not as much as you would expect, 20 pounds in 8 weeks is not a success in my eyes.
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katiepen
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CrimsonAnimus
Really, I would like you to site the research where the low dose amounts of HCG used in association with this protocol have lead to serious health problems and deaths. Since you've done your research and all. Actually the side effects on the box are related to heavy doses of hcg used for other purposes not the extremely low doses used on this protocol.
And I'd love to know where you have found negative testimonials from people who have actually done this protocol CORRECTLY(that being the operative word). In all of my research I haven't found any from anyone who's done it right. All of the negative stuff that I have found is from people who not only haven't done the protocol but who really don't know anything about how it works But if they are there I'd love to know where to find them.
And as for me I have nothing to gain from promoting this therapy. I'm just a woman who has struggled with weight my whole life and have found an answer that I feel passionate about sharing with others who have struggled like me. It's not that I don't believe that diet & exercise alone doesn't work for a lot of people but it doesn't work for everyone. Everyone's bodies are different and some people need more help. This protocol has worked for me and offers me a lifetime solution. I have many friends who it has worked for just as well and I don't know anybody that has done this protocol and commited to it and had anything short of wonderful life changing results. It's not for everyone, but it is the answer for a lot of people.
And I am an all natural,organic only person. I haven't even taken an aspirin or a tylenol in over 2 years (this even with a sprained ankle). Hcg is all natural and I am healthier then I've ever been. My friends have commented on how my skin and eyes are radiant and how healthy I look. I would never have done this therapy if it was detrimental to my health.
And it doesn't have to be expensive. Buy the book, get it 2nd hand if you don't want the author making the money. You can also get the original manuscript online for free. I got my hcg online for less then $100 and the supplies for less then $25. If you take into account the money that I save in food then this diet has cost me nothing and given me everything. If you feel more comfortable going through a doctor then do. It's more expensive but still worth it.
All that I'm saying CrimsonAnimus is share your experience, if diet & exercise alone has worked for you then wonderful, share that. But don't talk about something that you truly have no personal experience or knowledge about and try to dissuade others from finding a solution that may be different from yours but that will work for them.
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CrimsonAnimus
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Posted: 7 July 2008 08:24 pm |
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It was never my intent to start a debate in this thread, but rather to show people both sides of the coin.
It's good that you're happy, and that you've found something that works well for you, but please do not claim it's because you couldn't lose weight otherwise. I have never met a single person in my life who could not lose weight from proper diet and exercise. As I said, some people, like me, have to work harder than others. It's unfair, yes, but that's life. I'm not saying that people who take HCG or other quick weight loss fixes haven't tried, but they most likely just didn't try hard enough.
As far as sources go, I already quoted the FDA, which, whether you like it or not, actually does know more than both of us about the subject.
Here are two more:
http://health.yahoo.com/reproductive-medications/human-chorionic-gonadotropin-hcg-injectable/healthwise--d00572a1.html
http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml
There are plenty of people online who claim to have used HCG and had positive and negative results. They're just that, though - claims, just like yours, that can't be verified one way or the other. Instead, I choose to stick to facts. There is not a single diet/exercise regimen that has no side effects. Not one. Even losing weight the right way can produce side effects for some people. It's important to understand these risks so that we can make informed decisions.
Finally, like you, I have struggled with being overweight for my whole life. I was 330 pounds when I was 17 years old, and remained over 300 until now, 9 years later. When you think of people like me, you think of people who sit down and eat the likes of 5 fried chickens, or 10 steaks and baked potatoes. I've never eaten like that, and probably averaged about 2500-3500 calories daily before I started this, even at 350 pounds. Yes, I am one of those people who gains weight very, very easily. I have to exercise my butt off to keep my metabolism going, and eat a lot of foods that I find pretty disgusting. That's life. I finally decided enough was enough, and started to go at it full force, the right way. That's willpower. Either you have it, or you don't. If you don't, then HCG or other options might be for you. Again, though, you have to understand the whole process, which was my whole reason for posting here.
Good luck to you, and good health.
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| thank you katiepen.
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| I have used Phentermine, was very successfull... I lost 60lbs in about 3 months... I did workout daily and changed my eating habits... But they work great..
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Posted: 18 July 2008 05:26 pm |
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Hi,
Does anybody know how I can get information in Massachusetts about this? I'm thinking of trying it but don't have the money or time to travel to FL or AZ to see a Dr.
Thanks
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Posted: 19 July 2008 12:33 am |
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| Here at Dr. Kathy Kamin's office we can set up phone appointments and ship everything you need to you. We have about 30 out of town patients. Call Rose at 480-577-6630 for more information.
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| Thankl you Rose for the reply. I'll give a call.
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Hi, I'm new and looking for someone to do this diet with. (HCG) I just started it on Wednesday. So I'm on my second loading day, which I'm having problems with. The gorging is suppose to be the fun part! But I chose to start this right after my period ended. I never have much of an appetite after my period so its been hard to gorge. Anyway I think I'll start by giving the details, seeing how this is an informational site, and these are answeres to what seems to be the most popular questions. My husband heard about this diet from someone at work. So I read the Kevin T book. I only paid $4.99 for it on Amazon.com. I also read the Dr. Simeons protocol on line. After seeing Kevin on tv promoting his book, I thought he was totally nuts and would have never bought the book. But now after reading it I see how it all makes sense. I've always been thin until I had my twins. I'm now 60 pounds over weight. I'm 34 years old and 5"4. I weigh 180 right now. I decided if I'm going to do this then I may as well do it by the book. The Dr. Simeons book that is. The diet was founded by Dr. Simeons, he created this diet so I feel the smartest way to do this diet would be to follow his instructions. Kevin's book does follow Dr. Simeons protocol, but he has added a lot of extra's. Like phase one. I chose not to do any of phase one. (the cleanses). I just didnt feel strongly enough about them really making that much of a difference in the weight loss. The book specifically say's daily injections are needed for the diet to work. So thats what I'm doing. You do not need to see a doctor for this. I still have seen no doctor, and I didnt get anything ordered from a different country. Kevin Trudeau has a link on his website that say's "need Hcg?", and I went through that phone number. Yes its expensive, but I dont want to take my chances going through the wrong company to have it not work, and then leave me believing the whole diet doesnt work, when really it does and I was just using the wrong company. I paid around $500.00 for Blood tests, and another $270.00 for the actual HCG and needles. I give the injections to myself, which is very, very simple. I think a great way to loose weight is to eat healthy, and exercise. But its so very hard to exercise when your overweight and have certain health problems that make it nearly impossible. If there's an easier and healthy way to loose the weight and I chose not to do it, I'd feel like an idiot!. I say do all the hard work of exercising after you've lost the weight for maintaining the loss, and for your health. Anyway I thought it would be fun to have someone also doing the diet to correspond with. So anyone out there? : )
Darlene5
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I'm on the third day of injections, and because I felt starving this morning I decided maybe I needed one more loading day. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... I know that sounds so rediculous, but I really didnt load up very well the first two days so Im thinking maybe thats why I was so hungry this morning. So I'll start the 500 calorie diet tomorrow for sure! I've got to be honest here, Im feeling a bit like the whole diet is a huge scam. I'll give it my best shot and if it works, I'll be completely shocked!
These injections are also making me feel VERY TIRED. I havent even started the low calorie diet yet, these shots have been making me tired during the loading days. So I just dont get that. This happen to anyone else? It's like I've taken 3 benadryl!
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Hi Darlene
It sounds like you have all the tools to do this right. The fact that you didn't do any of phase 1 will make this a little harder in the beginning but it will still work. Just hang in there and be strong, it gets easier everyday.
I am in the 6 week period of no sugar or starches before I start my 2nd round of shots in 1 1/2 more weeks. I know this sounds crazy but I can't wait. I not only love seeing the scale go down everyday but I like not being hungry and feeling full of energy, it's just easier. You'll see what I mean. I generally check this site every morning so if you'd like to chat about your experience, I'm here.
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Hi, thanks again. I got through today. hopefully tomorrow will be better. I lost three pounds that first day. Does that mean I could keep losing three pounds a day? Or is that how it is just the first day?. I'm going to Vegas in September. I love swimming and would love to be able to swim at the hotels pools. But with the way I am, I wont be caught dead in a bathing suit looking this fat! So I'm hopeing I lose enough that I can wear a swim suit with out making anyone vomit! : )
Can you substitute Orange for Grapefruit?
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You can have grapefruit but oranges aren't recommended.
As for the weight loss the first few days you will put up big numbers but it does start to taper down. It averages about a pound a day but everybody's body is different and women have a little harder of a time around different times of the month. For me it's my period and when I'm ovulating. But as I said it all averages out. The best part of this diet is not just the pound loss but the body reshaping. It's amazing. So far I've lost 22 pounds in my first round but it looks and feels more like 40. So hang in there and even on days that you don't show a loss it can be because the fat is being moved to places where it is needed. Especially if you have been a yo yo dieter, we tend to lose structural fat and this diet replaces that. Congratulations on your 3 pounds, the first of many to go!
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I just started the hCG Potocol. I did extensive research, and have put links to the most popular sites on my weight loss blog here:
http://appetite4truth.blogspot.com/
The first button top right is the "My HCG Journey" forum, a spin off from the original Yahoo group. That Lingo button takes you to the page of insider lingo...
Today I was researching the appetite supressing effects of the apple, and realized that, that is why the diet wants us to have two a day.
Anything you could possibly want or need to know will be found in the links on my page.
But I'm a 'newbie' on the protocol, time will tell...
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Hi Journey girl, If you can please give us info on how your feeling and doing everyday ok? I'm so interested to see if you will be as hungry as I am! ha ha ha.....have you done the loading days yet? I did three loading days and today is my third day of the 500 calorie's diet. I'm hungrier today then I was yesterday....but I'm still hopeful.
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Posted: 23 July 2008 05:13 am |
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Darlene no I'm not hungry anymore, but I was so I up'd my dose from 125IU to 175IU
Please you guys doing this go to that forum called "My HCG Journey" I swear it's a nice safe place and everybody there knows what they are doing, well the site owners do. I'm brand new to doing it, but I researched my brains out for TWO Months prior to making the decision to do this.
Whan I first started my weight loss I was 250 pounds, I lost 50 on my own, and stalled there for over 6 months, then I started my research.
I'm in WA State and we have an hCG clinic here in Tacoma. It's perfectly safe.
Doing sublingual is way to difficult for me, no way can I hold a liquid for 15 MINUTES under my tongue, TWICE a day.
So I opted for the SubQ injection, so simple and zero pain/irritation.
Please know I'm not afliated with the owners of that forum, nor do I care if anyone comments on my blog, I'd be shocked if they did, it's just the place I put all the best links I know of, after months of research. That one link that is in print, is my own place where you can actually download the original Pounds and Inches manuscript, I put it into a word document so it can be printed and read offline, or there is the iconic link that goes to where you can read it online.
I'm passed menopause, so losing weight is a whole new ball game.
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Alright I will visit your links and your site. Please tell me, how long did it take before you finally stopped feeling hungry?? Do you think Im taking too much hcg? Cause I'm taking 250 IU SubQ injections.
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Darlene did you read the doctors manuscript? It said 125IU
KT's book "The Weight Loss Solution" says 175 to 200
I started on July 12th, and I up'd my dose two days ago b/c of hunger, now I'm fine.
You will not only be hungry, you will gain weight if you're cheating...
One gal on the forum said she used Spenda all through her first round (Not saccarhin on Stevia) and lost 22 pounds... so I think we can tweak some things.
I loaded for the two days it said to load, I loaded till I knew if I took one more bite I'd throw up, so I did the best I possible could, I ate TWO gallons og Tillamook Mudslide Ice Cream.... OMG, so good, it's like orgasm ice cream to me...lol
Sparkpeople has two HCG groups, one is slow, the other ultra religious, which is a turn off to me, you get blessed to death... but if you're very religious you would love that group, if so give me a holler and I'll get a link to you.
FitDay is on my site too, I don't use it, but others love it...
I don't eat the melba toast, b/c carbs make me hungry, and I eat the apple prior to meals b'c they actually curb appetite...
My brain hurts from so much learning....
I'm "Journey" on that forum, you'll see I've been a member for two or three days...
I wish you good luck and we can talk here or there... but over there you'll get so much support from ones who have lost well over 100 pounds and have maintained the loss for quite some time now, they know what they are doing!
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Yes I read both. But the place I went through for the Hcg, (Which is the place on KT's website) says to take 250 which is a higher dose because it's injected Sub Q instead of intramuscular. Maybe I'm taking too much!
I havent cheated. Not one morsel! I gained one pound each loading day. I loaded for three days, so I gained three pounds. Then day one of the 500 calorie diet I lost 3 pounds, and day two I lost 3 pounds. But I was starving! and still am. Day three is almost over and I'm starving as I speak.
I didnt load nearly as good as you thats for sure!
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All lot of the new people on that forum are talking about being extremely hungry, the ol timers told them what's up with that... go over there and check it out...
I'm a newbie, with little knowledge, you must get some advice or you will break and cheat!...
Here is one reply in a thread titled "Hunger" I found it here:
http://www.myhcgjourney.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1058
My first round I thought I was going to die. I told my husband that this wasnt a slight hunger or rumblings i was experiencing but full fledged feeling of starvation. In hind sight I beleive alot of it was in lieu of not loading right because it did eventually get a little better but now I know that you can vary your dosage to try and control this. The second time around I have not experienced the hunger like I did the first time and I definetly try to load according to protocal. I think this helped alot.
Here is a list of people blogging, by age:
http://www.drugdelivery.ca/hcg-challenge.aspx
you might find a kindred spirit there too...
After about 7 days you should not feel hunger ever again at all, NADA!
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Darlene
I took 250iu the first time that I did this, probably from the same place as you, from KT's website, and it worked great. I lost 30 pounds in 5 weeks. Your dosage sounds fine. How is your hunger? I did remember that the first time that I did this I had to learn to distinguish between truly being hungry and just having an empty stomach(which I definately was not used to) also trying to identify emotional hunger, something to think about. I hope that it's starting to get better.
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I've been reading al the post and have a couple of questions. Which I think is all have is questions right now.
How much friut do you eat? I'm eating 2 a day. I eat the apple for for breakfast, which if I don't eat breakfast I'm hungry. I then eat my grapefruit for lunch or dinner.
Darlene, try eating an apple for breakfast and see if it helps. I sometimes take a small handful of almonds just before eating my apples. I've found that if I start my meal with a couple bites of protein it helps.
This is my 14th day and I lost 2# this morning, which I think is great. I wasn't feeling well last night and this morning I didn't take my shot and do feel more hungry than when I do.
Kate - saw the answer to my questions about yerba mate after reading these postings. Now I just have to find it.
This site has been a great help. Thank you to all.
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Hi Katie and Tinkerbell!
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Posted by a Pharmacist on the Yahoo Group.
"Some Facts About HCG and Injections vs Sublingual"
I still see a lot of mis-information and confusion about sublingual HCG on the regular message board, so let's get some facts straight.....
1.) There is no difference in effect between injected and sublingual HCG. Once HCG is in your body, it works exactly....AND I MEAN EXACTLY...the same no matter how it gets there. The body does not know the difference between injected and sublingual, it only sees HCG and doesn't know or came where it came from. This is fact, and I am speaking from experience as a pharmaceutical engineer -- I know how these things work because it's my business to know.
2.) Injected and sublingual HCG can be mixed exactly...AND I MEAN EXACTLY....the same way. There is no special formula for sublingual HCG compared to injections. I did not use colloidal silver and lots of B-12....I used 2 mL of B-12 and 3 mL of vodka and 15 mL of distilled water. I lost 42.7 pounds of the 60 pounds I intend to lose, so it works. This is also fact....the numbers on my scale don't lie and neither do I.
A little aside here: sterile water for injection should not be used because it is somewhat acidic. Bacteriostatic water is supposed to be super clean, free of minerals and pathogens....but distilled water is also mineral-free and much cheaper. If you really think it might be contaminated, boil it again......but that's how it's made in the first place. That's what distillation means....a liquid is boiled and the vapors are condensed to get pure water. Any organisms in the water are killed off in the boiling. Once again, I am speaking from experience with pharmaceutical processes.
3.) The recommended dosage of HCG is 125 IUs per day according to Dr. Simeons, at least to start. You only...ONLY....increase the dosage if you are not losing or are extremely hungry. Another fact, because it comes from Dr. Simeons paper, "The Pounds and Inches Diet". The 166 IUs per sublingual dose number comes from people using Releanna, NOT mixed HCG per the Pounds and Inches protocol. If taken properly, 125 IUs per dose is sufficient.
4.) The rate of loss on sublingual vs. injections varies from person to person, but that is due to differences in body chemistry, NOT the method of dosage. An individual person will very highly probably lose the same amount and the same rate regardless of method, assuming they are doing it correctly. If in doubt, see Item 1.
The sublingual method usually results in about half (50%) of the dose being absorbed into the bloodstream, so the 125 IU dose is taken twice a day. However, getting that 50% depends on how long you hold the HCG mix under your tongue. I did it for 10 -15 minutes, sometimes longer, each time. My results speak for themselves.
5.) It is imperative, repeat IMPERATIVE....that you learn to read food labels. When you do, you will be amazed at how much extra stuff is added to processed foods. White flour, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, starch (esp modified food starch) and chemical preservatives are used in obscene amounts. Also, you can assume that unless it's labeled otherwise, meats are grain fed, injected with growth hormones, and anti-biotics. These things are why we got fat in the first place, so take the opportunity to eliminate them from your diet. Your body will thank you.
Reading labels is also how I discovered that many liquid B-12 offerings have sugar in them, usually in the form of fructose syrup. It may only be a small amount, but Dr. Simeons tells of experiences with his clients that even small amounts of sugar, starch and oil can sabotage weight loss.
6.) It makes NO difference whether you order from Indian or European pharmacies......any drug formulation approved for sale in the US (as HCG is, even if not for dietary use) must meet stringent guidelines as to ingredients and how it's manufactured. The potency is the same regardless of which country it comes form, and there is no difference between Hucog and Organon....they are simply brand names. Cost is only slightly different and delivery times are approximately the same. Once again, my industry experience is speaking here.
There is a difference in packaging but not in the HCG. Packaging from India is in glass ampoules, and packaging from Europe is in small vials with rubber stoppers and an aluminum overcap. Both are sealed containers and both contain the same HCG and either can be used for injections and for sublingual, when properly mixed and in the proper dose size.
7.) Mixing sublingual HCG is no different than preparing injected HCG. You do not need special amounts of colloidal silver, liquid B-12 or bacteriostatic water. I used about 1 mL (which is equal to 1 cc) of vodka to rinse my mixing bottle after rinsing with filtered water, and poured it out. Then I added about 0.5 mL of vodka to dissolve the HCG in the vial (or ampoule), poured that into my mixing bottle and added enough more vodka so I had a total of 3 mLs of vodka. After that, I added 2-3 mLs of liquid B-12 (until I discovered mine had sugar in it), then enough distilled water to have a total of 20 mLs of liquid. Since I bought 5000 IU vials, I had a mixture containing 250 IUs per mL. For a 125 IU dose, I pulled 0.5 mL of mixture into my syringe.
I also found that the liquid B-12 is not necessary. After finding that mine had fructose syrup in it, I mixed my last batch of HCG for my Round 1 Phase 2 using only 3 mL of vodka and 17 mL of distilled water. My losses were slightly better than the previous batch.
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Hi Tinkerbell, I eat two fruits a day. It's been an apple at lunch and a cup size of strawberry's at dinner. The protocol does not include almonds. It says if you change the foods the HCG wont work in your behalf. Its the chemical compounds in the certain foods that works together with the Hcg that in which makes the diet work to where you dont feel hungry. I'd love to eat nuts! I'd put some walnuts in my salad! But I'm really trying to make sure I do what the book and the protocal say's to do. Seeing how they stress the point of following it to a T. And how you cant go over 500 calories no matter what! If I changed something and got a bad reaction, I wouldnt know if it was because the diet doesnt work, or because I didnt follow the rules. But congrats to you! You eat almonds and your not feeling hungry so thats great! I might try that later on if I find that the diet works.
Yesterday was my third day of the diet and I felt just as hungry as the first day. Today is a little better so far, But I know after this lunch digests Its going to be another hard night. But I know I'd feel worse If I had cheated. The fact that I still havent cheated is what keeps me going. I've come so close though! We have some left overs from the loading days. I just smell them though...ha ha ha ha.
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Posted: 23 July 2008 11:02 pm |
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Darlene,
To be clear I don't eat almonds everyday, it's just a couple of times. But I do know and think it's best not to start the day off without eating. My instuctions were to eat the apple for breakfast and I'm not hungry very often. I wish you the best and great success.
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Posted: 24 July 2008 03:14 am |
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Hi Tink,
It'd hard to know where you can tweak this diet... A few nuts are fantastic! I'm prescribed "Fish Oil" by my doc, yet it's not allowed on this diet...
I keep thinking I can do anything for 40 days. Let me know if you have sucess with eating the nuts, I'll feel better about taking my fish oil....
That Stevia is only good for certain things, I got a bunch of it via Puritans Pride... I made one of my famous desserts using it instead of powdered sugar and it had to be thrown out...
Their is such a giant learning curve to learn how to shop, prepare and eat food...
I really like the idea of the "raw diet" but I know I could not maintain it... So I'm trying to make healthy choices. Such as at least one raw meal per day, and two vegatarian meals at least 4 days a week...
Not now while I'm on this HCG protocol, but before and after...
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You know I've read in places with people talking about going to a doctor for an injection once or twice a week, and losing weight. I just dont get this. How could the Hcg do anything if your only taking it twice a week. I mean how could it work to suppress your appetite? I'm taking it every day and it still hasnt supressed my appetite. One of those things that makes me a little weary of this diet.
So whats everyone eating? Im getting tired of the same old. Iv'e added cinnamon to my apples which is good. But I'm mostly not enjoying my salad. It's lettuce, cabbage, and cucumber with a homemade dressing containing Vinegar, garlic, pepper, & basil. Any other idea's? I'm really not enjoying this salad anymore.
Thanks : )
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I just cheated. I ate a very small piece of cake that had hardly any frosting on it. And it was only about three small bites. I wonder if I'll still be a pound lighter tomorrow morning. We'll see I guess. I think I'll have to eat less for dinner now to make up for it.
Darlene5  ha ha ha ha
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Hi Darlene
I've seen on other hcg forums that there are some cookbooks and recipes to help people not get too bored with what they're eating. I'm a vegetarian so my eating is different then others. I used eggs for the protein. I used to mix the eggs with my salad and that helped a lot. It is important to find things that you like while on this therapy. I couldn't stomach such plain salad until I figured out how to make the egg salad and then it turned into something that I looked forward to. Have you tried chicken salad. Mixing up the chicken with some celery, lettuce, cherry tomatoes, apple cider vinegar & salt. I used to put the lettuce in the food processor and chop it up so that I didn't have to deal with so much leafy and so little dressing. I'll try to locate some web adresses for recipes for you.
Hang in there! Just put the cheat behind you and go forward. It will set you back a little but you'll be fine. Just really try to be strong or you'll never know for sure if this will work for you.!
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Posted: 25 July 2008 07:43 pm |
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Thanks Katiepen, Well it didnt set me back. I lost another pound this morning. But yes I"m still hungry. Still dont notice the Hcg lowering my appetite at all.
I'll try the chicken in the salad.
Thanks,
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Today is my eighth day on the diet and the past three days I havent lost any weight. Is this normal? I havent cheated. Does this happen to everyone so early in the diet?
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Posted: 27 July 2008 05:24 pm |
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Hi Darlene
That happens to me me at different times in my cycle, when I'm pre menstrual or when I was ovulating. If it's not that then look closely at everything that you are doing. Are you accidently getting any oils on your hands, are you using any body care products that you shouldn't. This protocol is so specific, it seems crazy that such small things can throw it off but they do. If it goes more then 3 days then you can do an apple day as outlined in Dr. Simeons manuscript. That should jump start the weight loss again. Hang in there, it really does all even out in the end. Your body might also be moving fat around, try to be aware of how your body is feeling not just the # on the scale. As we all know the scale is a very inaccurate measure of what is really going on.
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So when this happened to you while you were ovulating, afterwards was there a big drop of weight making up for the days you didnt lose? Or did you just continue on the one pound a day? The only thing I cheated on was one small bite of organic ice cream yesterday. Thats it. One very small bite. Can you put Raw organic Coconut oil on your skin during phase 2?
I even got some excercise yesterday, so I was pretty surprised at the scale this morning. The meat I ate yesterday was a little different it was a new york steak, instead of veal. I took every spec of fat off I could find before cooking it. Since day one of this diet all the beef I've been eating has NOT been organic. Just because I cant find it anywhere!. I can find organic ground beef, but it's not low enough in fat. But all the chicken I've been eating has been organic.
Thanks for your help! : )
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Posted: 27 July 2008 06:54 pm |
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Hi Darlene
I know that it sounds crazy but just one small bite of food can stop your weight loss for 1-2 days. It's not so much the calories as the composition of the wrong foods throws off what the hcg is doing.
And no, no oils on your skin at all, even wonderful cocunut oil which is also what I use when I'm not on the shots. I have excema, so dry skin was a big concern for me. I found that I could soak in dead sea salts, these have minerals to soften the skin so that helped me not get too dry without any moisturizers. I went online and ordered them in bulk at snowdriftfarms.com. They were more affordable there.
I found a couple places that you can look for recipes. hcgrecipes.blogspot.com & HCGcoach.com. Hopefully these will help you not to be so bored with your food.
And yes my weight loss would even out, not necessarily right after in a big drop, those tend to really be in the first week. For women we can really expect overall a weight loss of 1/2 to 1 pound a day. But it's not just the pounds lost, it's the body reshaping that really shows. I've lost 22 pounds so far but I swear it looks at least as much as 40.
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Posted: 27 July 2008 09:12 pm |
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Well thats what it is then. I used some extra virgin coconut oil on my legs a few days ago. I thought for sure that in KT''s book it said to use it during the diet. He must have meant to use it during phase 1 and 3 or something. Great! so these past two days have been pretty much wasted shots. I wont be able to make up for those days where I didnt lose anything right?
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| Everything's a learning experience with this protocol. Try not to get too stressed out that just ends up working aganist us. In the end you will be happy with your results. You've finished your first week and that is the hardest. My mantra the first round that I did this was I can do anything for 40 days. Hopefully the hunger will be alot better this week and you'll find some variety with those recipes.
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I cant stand this diet! This is nearly impossible! Either this diet doesnt work, or GHI Medical gave me the wrong stuff! Im nine days into the 500 calorie diet, and the hunger is outrageous! I dont see how anyone can follow this. Why does this Hcg work for everyone but me? I havent heard one person have the same troubles Im having. And no its not just cravings, it's hunger. And even it were just cravings, cravings can be just as hard to fight as hunger, so how would one follow the diet? Im craving just about every food BUT the food I'm suppose to be eating. Im a stay at home mom, maybe its harder on me cause Im at home where theres food. I dont know. But this Hcg hasnt done anything for me. I had energy like one day. Thats it. The only thing I can find that this Hcg MIGHT be doing is keeping me from feeling week. Thats it. I almost feel like this Hcg makes me crave food more, cause when I used to diet with out it, it wasnt this hard.
Im looking for someone who is having the same problems, anyone?????
Darlene5
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Posted: 30 July 2008 03:48 pm |
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Hi Darlene
Have you contacted GHI Medical? Maybe there is something wrong with your batch because you shouldn't still be this hungry. I've only heard of people having this happen when it's a bad batch of hcg. I've heard of people buying a pregnancy test and putting the hcg on the stick to see if it's good. Maybe they can send you a new batch. In the meantime before you give up I would just eat more vegies when you're starving. This is better then giving up and you shouldn't be suffering this much. I've heard of a lot of people eating as many vegies as they want and their weight loss is still good.
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Posted: 30 July 2008 04:02 pm |
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Hi Darlene,
Katepen is right eat more veggies just don't mix them up - what ever veggie you eating in the am eat more of that and same as the night time meal. I work for a naturalpathic dr who has incorporated this program into her practice. You should not be starving. If you do a pregnancy test on the vial - you will use up your vial plus there is such a small amount of hCG in it that it may not show up. If you are doing this through a Dr. care then talk to them about it. Good luck
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Thanks you guys. Yes I've talked to GHI about it. They dont say much. They just went over everything I"m suppose to be doing. Thats it. I really doubt they will give me a new bottle of Hcg for free. I mean how do they know I'm not lying to get a free bottle. How can you get a bad batch anyways? What would make it bad? You mean expired? Or something thats not even Hcg at all? If this isnt Hcg then I wonder what the heck it is Im injecting into my body. The expiration date is fine. I'm not sure what would make it bad.
I eat lettuce with cabbage for my veggie at lunch. And usually asparagus (which I hate!)for dinner. So are you saying I shouldnt mix my lettuce with cabbage?
Thanks for your help you guys!
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OH yeah, and they (GHI) tried to sell me some appetite suppresant pills when I tried talking to them about this. Ha ha ha ha ... I said you sold me a product that doesnt work, so why would I buy another one of your products! I'm tempted to buy some Hcg from some where else just out of curiousity to see if GHI really did screw me over. But then I would probably have to start the whole protocol over again right? (the gorging).
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Hi Darlene
I used GHI Medical the first time and I didn't have any problems. I'm sure that what you have is hcg, I don't think that GHI medical did anything wrong it's just that I've read on some forums that some batches weren't working, probably in the manufacturing. Frustrating I know. But it doesn't sound like it's not working at all, just not as well as it should. Try the extra vegies and see if that helps. It really shouldn't mess with your weight loss.
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Hello everyone. I have been doing the HCG Phentermine for 2 months...The first month I lost about 13 lbs, the 2nd month I had to take the majority of the month off due to a car accident...couldnt work out so didnt take the meds...Im back on and into week 1 of my 3rd month, but more like my 2nd. I never felt hungry, in the beginning the thought of food made me sick, I didnt want to eat 500 calories a day, any food was forced. I noticed for me that water is HUGE Month 1 I was drinking 96 oz. a day, or 3 of the Aquafina liter bottles. I switched to the pills versus capsules because they are half the price at my pharmacy... when i went last time to the doctor I told her I felt like it wasnt working as well, definately harder to stay under 800 cal(my max). I also felt like I was ok throughout the day but by night the meds had worn off so I was soooo hungry. She suggested that i break the pill in half, half after or before breakfast and the other half around lunch time....ITS DEFINATELY WORKING! It makes my energy level higher and helps curb the night starvation periods I was having, ok I wasnt really starving but I was hungry...
Also, I dont have anything I am restricted from, I usually do not eat white flour anyway and try to stay away from sugar but Im just on the 500-800 cal a day. I know some people loose faster following a more strict program but the way I am I feel like I could eat the way Im eating now forever, once off the diet i will probably remain around 1000 calories a day due to my metabolism being so low...but when I restrict myself I crave the things i cant have. also i take 2 days a week off phentermine and only take 1 shot a week. the 2 days off stop the immunity your body begins to build against the phentermine...Im really happy with this program so far, everything is monitered closely by a physician. I am going on a Cruise sunday so i know it will be a challenge to work out and eat right, but like my dr said as long as i take it as a vacation and not a floating table it will all be ok!
Im not huge, im an 8 I just want to be a 4 again, I would like to loose about 35 lbs more before being off the program...we can only do 6 month intervals....
also the days off the phentermine teach me how to each healthy without the med. I will say that I crave more sweets on the days im off, with the phent i want fruit all day, and like a slice of turkey....
to those who were posting earlier that its for people who "dont have what it takes" to do it the old fashioned way, I was working out 6 days a week, for 2 hours~ 1 hr on the eliptical with heart rate at cardio and fat burning the whole time (minus the cool down and start up) and weights the next hour. I stayed on a strict 1000 cal diet, no bread no white flour and very rarely allowed myself a half of a cookie or something, water only. I did this for about 8 months and lost 3 lbs....3!!! It was so not worth that much work...and it wasnt that i built muscle, my clothes fit the same, measurements in inches were about 1/2 an inch smaller in waiste and nothing really everywhere else....Im only 21 so my metabolism shouldnt be what it is but it is....anyway the dr said i would have to eat 500 a day or 800 on days I go to the gym... I dont think I could do 500 without an appetite supp. without starving PLUS the hcg causes ur body to get the other calories it needs from the fat already stored, so when a normal person consumes 700 cal. a day weight loss is difficult because their bodies enter starvation mode, its a fine line, with this HCG prevents that by obtaining any additional calories needed from the stored fat....hcg's only side effect i am aware of (done some research) is increased fertility when using 10000 units, versus the 35 i use. Phentermine isnt healthy, but neither is being overweight you are more likely to have heart problems from being overweight then from this medication.
sorry to be so long winded...my first post haha!!
Good Luck Everyone
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Has anyone else noticed fewer bowel movements while taking Hcg? Does anyone know of a laxative thats ok to use with the diet? Something that wont screw up the diet? I was told by my clinic that you cant do a colon cleanse while on the diet. But I would think theres something else out there that would be ok. Like maybe just some magnesium or something. benefiber??
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Hello everyone, i signed up just to post this as i have been reading all your posts.
I absolutely agree with MrsCook2008, long thought what to do and all the same have dared and have bought in this shop checkeddrug.com .
Thus mine MasterCard have accepted without problems.
And here I am very happy, good luck everyone! 
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Is aloe Vera gel ok to use during phase two.( For a lotion ?)
Thanks
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Hi Darlene
Yes , i had the same problem with bowel movements. I started doing coffee enemas which are also a wonderful liver cleanser and they are cheap and you can do them yourself at home. You can also do colonics.
I don't know about the aloe vera, I avoid everything like that. I do have excema so dry skin is a concern. I started soaking in dead sea salt baths. They are full of minerals that moisturize the skin plus as a bonus they help with detoxing.
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Hey there,
I'm about to start the HCG diet (in like 2 days) and am also a vegetarian... i'm desperately seeking advice as far as what to do for the protein as a substitue. i do eat eggs but i have no idea how many/the egg whites only/yolk ratio, etc. also, i heard i can use cottage cheese as a substitute sometimes, as well. any experience with this? and is tofu/veggie "meats" completely out of the question? thanks so much in advance for your help...
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Hi veggiehelp
Yes, tofu veggie meats are out of the question. These are processed and contain hidden sugars so it's better to get off of those now. I used to use those quite a bit as well but have discovered that soy is not very good for most people and it's better to stick with beans, eggs, & raw dairy for your protein sources when you finish the protocol.
I have used eggs for the protocol and that has worked perfectly. You use 1 whole egg + 3 egg whites for your protein. I usually make egg salad for lunch with celery, cherry tomatoes, lettuce, red onion, apple cider vinegar, dried mustard and herbemare(an organic herb salt), very yummy and filling. Then for dinner I poach the eggs and have a vegetable on the side, usually sauteed cabbage or spinach with onions. I just use a really hot cast iron pan, of course no oil, and I've had no problem mixing the onion & veggie. You can use cottage cheese but the milk sugars can slow down your weight loss (usually to about half) so I just stuck with the eggs. You're only having 2 egg yolks a day so there's no problem with that. Good Luck!
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| I have just learned about this HCG shot and would like to know if anyone knows the likelyhood of contracting HIV from this growth hormone?
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| I would think slim to nil as long as you use sterile new needles for each injection.
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Hi Everyone, I have found this site extremely helpful. I am beginning the HCG program on Monday, so wish me luck.
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| Good Luck Chaz! We're here if you have any questions.
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Posted: 14 August 2008 02:42 am |
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Is Rose still on this forum? I thought she or someone else might be able to help with my situatiojn.
I have been on the HCG for about 10 days and have lost about 9 pounds, but I'm very hungry! I have cheated the last few days because I'm so hungry. I keep reading about people who are not hungry at all and I thought you might have some insight for this since you're working for the doctor. What are your thoughts?
Thanks! Stacey
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:45 pm |
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Hi Stacey
I'm not Rose but I'll see if I can help. I think that Darlene mentioned drinking tea. I could not do this therapy without it. Yerba Mate is the best. Also wu long tea and chamomile at night. Use Stevia for sweetner, it also helps to balance the blood sugar which will help with the hunger. I also put cinnamon on my apple which also balances blood sugar.
Also be sure to follow the protocol exactly, don't cheat, this just makes things worse. The hunger will get better.
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Posted: 14 August 2008 05:43 pm |
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Thanks so much katiepen!
I was wondering if cheating just made hunger worse. I am committed to follow the protocal exactly today and believing it will get better.
As for the teas - are the specific ones you mentioned available at health food stores or where did you get yours? (Yerba mate and wu long) and I am going to have to go to a health food store this weekend to get some stevia.
I'll try cinnamon on my next apple - I forgot that was allowed. and my protocal doesn't include strawberries, but I see that many people use them, so those are ok too?
How much have you lost so far? and is this your first time on the protocal or have you done other rounds?
thanks again for responding!
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Posted: 18 August 2008 03:16 pm |
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Hi Stacey
I did the protocol last year and I lost 30 pounds but I didn't finish phase 3 correctly so over the last year I gained the weight back. So I started again, totally committed to doing it all right and with a solid belief that this will be the last diet that I ever do. I lost 22 pounds in my first round, I hit immunity early because I messed up my first shot and accidently gave myself a mega shot. So I took the 6 weeks off in between and did phase 3 perfectly this time and now I'm on my 2nd round. I've lost 10 pounds so far(including the 2 I gained on my gorging days) so I've lost a total of 30 so far and I have 10 more to go. I feel great and confident and this time phase 3 will be done to completion and I will live following the principles of phase 4.
Yes, the health food store is your best bet for the teas or online for wu long. And strawberries are allowed. 8 medium. How is it going for you?
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| Okay, so I can really use help. I started my protocol one week ago today and have barely loss 2lbs!! I don't contribute those 2lbs to the protocol because I've been excercising as well daily. Has anyone else had this happen and what can I do to get the weight to start coming off!!??
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Posted: 31 August 2008 08:36 pm |
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What kind of exercising are you doing? When ever I do any kind of exercising I dont lose much or none the next day. The book says to only walk. Probably because your burning calories, and with this diet you cant eat LESS than 500 calories.
Some other things to look at,
Are you injecting?
Do you feel hungry? If so that would mean the diets not working which would mean it's probably either that not enough is getting into your system, or that you need a higher dose.
And are you using any lotions, oils? are you getting anything like that on your hands at all or any where on your body?
Are you making sure to not eat any of the same thing in each meal each day? And tell us what your eating? This is very interesting. We will get it figured out for you, so dont worry ok? : )
Darlene5
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Posted: 1 September 2008 12:23 am |
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Hi Darlene, Thanks for responding and I need the help.
First, I have been working out pretty actively i.e. spin classes, personal trainer, etc.
Secondly, I have been hungry even with taking the injections everyday.
Third, my food intake has been pretty consistent I think. I deviated once but nothing of major significance to through me off the this much. I have not been eating vegetables everyday with my meals. I travel alot and sometime have to get food on the fly. So food may have something to do with it if I have to be consistentant with meal regime.
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Posted: 1 September 2008 05:32 am |
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Well thats what it is then. Its your exercising for sure! And it's also what your not eating and maybe also what you are eating.
You have to eat the veggies, the fruit and the meat, the combined chemical compounds in these foods is what triggers the Hcg do work the way it does. The portion sizes have to be exact too. The meat has to be weighed raw and can be no more or less than 95-100 grams. The veggies are a cup size, and can only be certain veggies. The fruit is either a grapefruit, seven medium strawberrys, or a med to small size apple. You can use Cinnamon on your apple, salt and herb seasoning on your meat, and apple cider vinagar and salt for your salad or veggies. Did you read the protocol at all? I would read it so you understand what you can eat, how to eat it, etc...you will then understand why you need to eat all the foods and no others.
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Posted: 1 September 2008 01:46 pm |
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I did not reead the book because the company I used "HCGdiet.com" said it was not necessary because their program deviated from it. I read it last night after your email and wow!
I had also received a massage, was using lotions and oils, etc. I am going to buy a food scale this morning and follow the protocal to the letter!
I am still concerned about the fact that I am still hungry. I purchased some wulong tee but it hasn't done much. I don't know if it is the right potency since I purchased it from the same place as I purchased my HCG!
Well, i'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again for the advice and support. This is a wonderful forum!
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Posted: 1 September 2008 07:07 pm |
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Chaz, now what book are you talking about? How could you have ordered it, recieved it and read it all in one night! ha ha ha I was talking about the book. The weight loss cure they dont want you to know about by Kevin Trudeau. Or you can read Dr. Simeons protocol which is on the internet for free. Maybe thats what you read?
Man! I'm surprised you didnt gain weight! ha ha with all that oil! Even just a tiny bit of oil on your finger is enough to cause you to not lose anything the next day. Its crazy! Its mostly fatty oils we want to stay away from. I cant believe Hcgdiet.com didnt tell you any of this. Sounds like they didnt tell you anything as to how to do the diet.
As for your hunger. I had the same problem. I went 35 days on the diet hungry, and craving sugar. I finally got the idea to try shooting in the muscle instead. what a huge difference. I now have no problems with hunger. And I finally feel the energy everyone talks about. At first I kept the dose at 250, but I have now lowered it to 200. I could tell 250 was too much, just because I was kinda wired and felt my heart in my chest. According to the protocol 200iu should be the max when injecting into the muscle. So I'd like to play it safe, and go by the rules. Im injecting into the thigh now and using the same short subQ needles. I just inject in locations where the muscle is near for the needle to reach. Chaz this fixed my hunger problem completely so you might want to consider this. Where are you injecting now? Is it in the muscle? And how much are you injecting? Maybe you just need to up the dose. If you dont want to shoot in the muscle than the other option is to keep injecting where your injecting now, but up the dose.
Hope this helps : )
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Posted: 2 September 2008 01:49 am |
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I downloaded Dr. Simeon's protocal online and read it.
Currently, I'm injecting 250 and I inject it in my stomach about 2 to3 inches away from my belly button but the cravings for sugar are great and Iam still hungry. I have very thick thighs so I don't know if that is the best way to reach muscle for me but I would like to try injecting it into the muscle....Question: does it hurt more to inject into the muscle directly?
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No Chaz it doesnt hurt at all. But if your going to do that I would for sure find good instructions. You will need to know the safe locations to inject, and you will need to order your needles from a good place. Im sorry I dont know of a place to order needles, but I"m sure someone here on this forum will know. They may even know where you can get instructions. You might be able to find info on this buy just looking back at previous pages reading peoples posts too. But be very careful, you dont want to hit bone, and you dont want to hit an artery. So I would research as much as you can about safe places to give muscle injections. Hopefully you can find a safe place on your body to do it with the short needles you already have.
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| I started the HCG diet 9 days ago. (Mon and I'm writing this on Wed night). I have lost 15 lbs!!! It is incredible. I can't even hardly believe it. I am following Dr Simeons protocol precisely. I am exercising though (I started last mon with a trainer, the same day I started the diet). I was dealing with cravings my first week, although I think they were completely in my head and not true hunger. The meals satisfy me, so I'm not left hungry right after. My second week seems much better with cravings. I think its cause I am seeing such great results. I only expected to lose 20 total, so now I'm hoping to lose close to 25. Everyone should read the official manuscript that Dr Simeon wrote, its long, but details everything. I haven't touched oil, lotion or anything in over a week....I'm going to lather up when this is done!
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Posted: 4 September 2008 05:37 am |
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| Oh and also, I'm not doing the injections - I have a oral (under my tongue) version. I don't think I could do the shots....
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Posted: 4 September 2008 05:42 am |
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Sounds great Kirsten! Where did you get the oral Hcg from? Is it true you dont get immune to the Oral kind?
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Well this sucks, but I think I'm becoming immune to the shots now. I think I have to end it. I think I lost the least amount of weight than anyone I've read. 20 pounds in over 45 days. Not too impressive. Depressing cause I wanted to be down at least 10 more pounds before my vacation. I wish there was some way I could keep going!!!!
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Hi Darlene
Don't get discouraged now. You had problems at first but you've figured it out now and your next round will be even more successful! You knew this immunity was coming, just take off the 6 weeks and enjoy a little more freedom. Be very careful, follow phase 3 exactly and be prepared to fast(the steak day) if you need to, it works like a charm. If you really want to flatten your stomach for your vacation do some colonics before you leave. These will help your next phase be more smooth too. Whatever you do just enjoy your weight loss on your vacation, 20 pounds is a lot of weight, especially on this protocol. We as women never seem to be happy with our bodies, try to enjoy your accomplishments and don't worry about the next round until you get there. This is a lifetime protocol, you have the rest of your life to enjoy more vacations with even more weight loss!
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Hello fellow HCG Bloggers. Well, i've been on my protocol for 3 weeks now and have loss a whopping 11 lbs~
What am I doing wrong? I admit the first week I was completely backwards but since then, no oil, lotions and I have stuck to the 500 calories or less. I have 19 more days on this phase and want to really optimize the program in hopes of getting closer to my weight loss goals.
I love to work out and would really like to incorporate that into my plan. I read a recent post from Kristen who loss 15lbs in 9days while working with a trainer as well. I would be so happy to know what an average day was for you i.e. menu and amount of time you exercised.
Otherwise, i'm feeling better. Not hungry and only cravings at night. My energy levels are amazing and my mood is good.
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Chaz
Try to remember that your body is reshaping too. So even though it doesn't show on the scale that doesn't mean that you're not losing fat.
Also, you said that you are eating 500 calories or less. The or less part concerns me because if you eat less then 500 calories that can keep you from losing weight too. The 500 calorie diet along with the hcg brings us to the edge of starvation which is what causes the body to release the adipose fat. But if you eat less then the 500 calories then you could go into starvation mode and then your body will hold onto everything that you have. so just make sure that you are eating your full 500 calories and that they are made up of the foods recommended by Dr. Simmeons & Kevin Trudeau, don't skip anything even if you don't feel like eating.
As far as the exercise I know that walking an hour a day is recommended but nothing more strenuous then that. You don't want to burn too many calories, you don't have that many to burn. You can pick up more exercise when you go into phase 3. I'm in phase 3 now and I'm exercising more everyday, it feels good to be able to do more.
It sounds like you're right on track. I know that it's frustrating when other people show faster weight loss but our bodies are all different and 11 pounds in 3 weeks is nothing to sneeze at. I'm sure that you can see it and feel it on your body. I had a slower weight loss too but in the end I'm at my goal weight after 2 rounds, I lost 40 pounds, and I have a lifetime plan to never be fat again. Very worth it! Good Luck!
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My fear is going over the 500 calories a day and sometimes I'm not very hungry. I have noticed the change in my body and the way my clothes fit. It's funny because prior to beginning this protocol, I was not scale conscious at all and now I feel as though I'm obsessed with it!
I have been playing with different menus to see what works best for my body and dropping weight. I have found that the beef is not my friend. Currently, I eat half a grapefruit and coffee for breakfast, 2 boiled eggs and salad for lunch, the other half of the grapefruit to snack on, and for dinner is chicken breast (steamed), a veggie ie broccoli or asparagus and a tiny salad with nothing on it (I don't eat salad dressing). If i'm craving sugar, i'll cup up an apple and snack on it. Of course, I drink from 6 to 7 16oz bottles of spring water each day. I also drink the wulong tea and coffee if I don't have my tea bags with me.
I put that there to see if I'm on the right page of if anyone else has a good menu that they have been successful with.
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Posted: 16 September 2008 09:24 pm |
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Hi Chaz
I was reading through all the posts and saw your post on your meal plan. I'm wondering if you are not losing as much due to mixing veggies...maybe adding in the salad is delaying your loss. It was my understand per the manuscript that there is no mixing of the vegetables since different veggies are metabolized differently. How often you are having eggs, because the yolks contain higher amounts of fat. I am also curious as to how come you have increased your injections to 250 instead of 125 IU in the manuscript?
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Posted: 17 September 2008 12:50 am |
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Hi Chaz, your losing half a pound a day which is still good! But have you tried to do the Apple day? You should see a big loss after doing that, and it might kickstart the diet into working better there after.
If your eating organic grapefruit, they are quite smaller. I personally would eat a whole one on days your more hungry, just because Im certain it wont effect your weight loss.
Diddo what Katiepen said, dont work out! Just walk a little. You cant burn too many calories or it wont work.
I'm so glad to hear your appetite is decreased now. What did the trick?
As for the beef, I couldnt find any Organic beef that was lean enough. Maybe thats why the beef isnt working for you? I know were suppose to stick to Organic only but I didnt know what else to do.....So I found a NON Organic ground beef with only 4 % fat. Its at FredMeyers and called Laura's Lean Beef. This is what I used. It also says it has no antibiotics or added growth hormones so thats a plus. Maybe this is still too much fat though, i dont know. But they dont put the fat content on steaks so how is one to know? So I chose the ground beef. I couldnt find Organic Veal, so I tried NON Organic Veal, but because I found myself chewing on bits of fat in it, I thought it might have too much fat. I put seasalt and garlic powder on the ground beef and it tastes really good! Also Katiepen would know how to eat eggs cause thats what she eats.
As for Vegetables, Broccoli is NOT on the protocol. Not sure how much of a difference it would make by eating it. But it's not on the protocol.
For lunch I had a salad made with Romain lettuce, and tomato. I made my own dressing which was just Salt and Vinegar. (Apple cider vinegar is a fat burner)
For dinner my Vegetable was a salad made with Cabbage, and Celery. (With the salt and vinegar dressing)
This way both vegetables for each meal were different. And I would have chicken for lunch and beef for dinner. And a total of two different fruits a day. Usually it was an apple for lunch and either strawberrys or a grapefruit for dinner.
And I used Stevia in my tea for a sweetner.
Hopefully something here helps : ) But keep your chin up, your still doing well. Half a pound a day is not bad!!
Darlene5
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Hi Chaz
As for the eggs 2 eggs has too much fat so you have to use 1 whole egg with 3 egg whites. This was my protein source for the whole protocol as I'm a vegetarian and it worked well for me. Also with the fruits it says to have 2 different ones so instead of the other half of yur grapefruit try an apple or 8 strawberries. And broccoli has too many carbs for the protocol. Try cabbage or spinach both of which you can be a little generous with. I hope this helps. Try reading through the manuscript again and if you can get Kevin Trudeau's book that is full of info. Good Luck!
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I started the HCG shot (here in Florida) about two weeks ago. The very first week, I lost 4.6 pounds, and during the second week, I lost two inches from my bustline, waist and hips. A friend of mine introduced me to the clinic. She completed the eight weeks, and went from a size 12-14, down to an 8-10. They say on average, if you use the shot ALONG WITH the diet, it works, but the diet is IMPORTANT, or you won't lose anything. It really teaches you to eat better, and forces you to think about everything you put in your mouth.
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Thanks Katie, but I never eat the yolks! I believe I finally have my protocol working correctly. I have lost 15lbs since starting and my body fat has dropped significantly!! Then women here can probably give me some advice with this one but how did you ladies do during menustration?
I have about 15 days left on this round and 15 lbs left to hit my goal. I have learned some wonderful eating habits and new ways of preparing my meals. this has been a life altering event for me and I will be an advocate of the HCG "Diet" for a long time.
Good luck everyone new, stick with it because it does work! But i'm not going anywhere........
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Hello,
I would like to know where you purchased the oral hcg. I would like to try that before the shots.
Will you please provide that information?
Thanks
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We use the shot, but you can also get oral hCG from our clinic after a doctor's appointment. Let me know if you still want the info about the clinic. eMail me at the following email: buck at 3rdwave.com (at=@)
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Hello all! I going to be starting the HCG diet here shortly and need a little help. Tomorrow I will take my shot of Double HCG with B-12 which is an "all you can eat day". The following day I will take Double HCG with another "all you can eat day". I guess this is called my loading days.
BUT, here is where I am not so sure, day 3 and 4 (Sun and Mon) I will not take any shot, just start my 500 cal diet. Then on Tues., I will start my single injections and continue with my 500 cal diet, which is actually day one, right?
See I am a little lost. The pamplets they gave me at the Clinic say one thing, but the MA there and the Dr. say different! Mix of information here. I am a nurse and I am unsure of what I need to do.
Someone please help!
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mdmx24
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hello. Im a 30 year old female..always been pretty active but I cant seem to shed some unwanted extra pounds like I have in the past and its getting frustrating. thats why HCG injections..sounds so appealing to me.
Problem is I'm 5'2 and about 127lbs. Most dr's dont take me seriously when I express my concern and I am stifled. I have tried the lipotropics...and Ehhh...not impressed. Am I overweight enough to use HCG? have u any experience with the oral HCG?
I appreciate any knowledge u can share or just your opinion. Thanks
Gia
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mommamary
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Hey everyone this is my first post. I heard about the hcg shots and became very intrigued. I have never really been satisfied with my weight, and I gained a lot with my two pregnancies. So now I'm considered obese. I have tried many things, after my first baby I lost 30 lbs, which I gained back and more, then of course I gained more during my second pregnancy, since I have found is even harder to lose. I grew up in Martial Arts, and my dad had us very active growing up, I have recently got back into Karate and am a member of Curves. I just really am deperate. I want to lose between 100 and 150. I am just really humiliated with myself and cant believe I ever got up to this size. Other than the weight my blood pressure is fine and I dont have any type of diabetes. I just dont recognize myself.
Anyway, so like I said I recently heard of the hcg shots and did some searches on it, which is what lead me to this site. I am very interested but also a little weary. I just dont want to end up in an even worse situation than Im in right now. One of the clinics, that offers the hcg shots, that is closest to me is in Hickory, NC. It's called the Complete Laser Clinic. They offer a "physicians supervised-weight-loss program". It's run by Dr. Hamel. So basically one of my questions are: has anyone ever heard of this clinic or been to it. I would like to get some feedback about it, to see if it is a good place to go. It sounds good. But nowadays you never know. I also was wondering if something like this would be covered, in any amount, by health insurance.
Thanks for listening and to any feedback. I find a lot of stuff on here that is very helpful. I love hearing about peoples journeys and triumphs, and hopefully one day I will be one of those success stories. Thanks guys. Any information is helpful, I really want to do this program. I just want it to be successful.
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| Hi, I have tried the pills and they seem to work ok although it still takes work such as the laying off the soda and exercising. The pills that I took seem to help keep me on my diet and exercise routine. I wish you each and everyone good luck with whatever routine your trying. I have lost a good amount of weight and am still losing and happy with the results that I have gotten.
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Some of my friend's whom have been on Phen before, suggested I should stop taking it for a few days every once in awhile, so my body doesn't get use to it.
Hope it'll help me
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I started this diet in November of 08 the first month I lost 12lbs an the second I lost 10! I am so amazed at how easy this diet is. It really teaches you how to make good decisions on what to eat. I go to the weight management center in statesville NC, it's a little expensive considering that insurance doesn't pay for any of it. But if you have as much weight as me to lose it is well worth it! Good luck to all that are on the diet and if you are one that is considering this diet, I HIGHLY recommend it! Oh and here's a tip for you guys......I have learned that only taking the phen. pills every other day helps me to not be so dependent upon them!....good luck!
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mommamary
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Hey kgreenwood. Congratulations on the weightloss. I have been considering wether or not I should do the program or not. I need to do something I have a lot of weight to lose but it makes me nervous. I just dont want to screw myself up even worse. Any helpful tips you can give me would be great. Good luck on your program.
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Mommamary, I definitely encourage you to try this program! If you are worried about the effect it will have on you maybe you should just take the shots and not the pills. The pills are the only thing that have side effects on me, sometimes they make me jittery but as far as the shots go they are safe! Good luck in your decision!
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Thanks kgreenwood. I was definitley worried about the pills. I thank I will try them and if I start getting the mood swings, which is what Im worried about, then I will stop them. I have 2 kids and I go to school, so usually Im already stressed enough as it is. But, if you give yourself the shots, is that a big deal? Have you ever heard of the complete laser clinic in Hickory? That's where I'm planning on going. They seem to have a good program. A physician, nutritionist, nurses, etc, so it seems to be good. I just wish I knew someone else who has went there so they could tell me how they liked it.
Thanks again.
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No i haven't heard of them, but I am sure it is a good place to go. I go to Statesville. At first I let my mom give me the shots, I am very squeamish when it comes to needles, i didn't think I would be able to handle it. But she only gave me two, after that I was fine it is no problem they don't even hurt they are so tiny you don't even feel them. I just went today to weigh in and I have lost another 6lbs I am also taking two shots a week instead of just one.
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| I am very interested in going to talk to the Medshape clinic in Mesa, AZ, but I fear they will do a hard sell on getting me to commit. No where on their site or through internet searchs can I find out how much this will cost. Do they want you to buy their own food? I tried the NutriSystem food but it didn't agree with me. What is the long-term weight loss? I am very cautious about "rapid weight loss" programs and how it would affect my physically. I have about 20 pounds to lose - I just don't like the way I look. I'm glad I found this forum.
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April 22, 2009
I am new. Just read Kevin Trudeau's book and all these blog postings from the last few year's :-) I live in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Does anyone out there know where I can find someone who follows the "Simeons Protocol" for the hCG dieting details. Also, I called a clinic in Tulsa, OK that a Dr. Shuler runs (hCG Medical) and they said that if I have the blood tests that they would start me on it and order the prescription of hCG for $200. I asked them about mixing it though and they said that I would be mixing it up in half batches for the 40 days they have you do it for and each batch would be for 20 days. In his book, Kevin Trudeau warned of the weakness of the hCG formula and it not working very well at all if mixed ahead of time. He said that it has to be mixed daily and used within 24 hours. I asked them about this discrepency at the clinic and they were not familiar even though they say they follow the Simeon protocol -- strange. They did tell me that the American pharmaceutical hCG had to be mixed this way and that the European hCG could be mixed individually since it came in seperate ampules for each day. I asked them if I could get the European version and they said that they ordered it for a few patients and could get it for me but the cost would be $3,000 per 40 day treatment instead of the $200. YIKES! Does anyone have any knowledge on this subject. I really don't want to put the effor into this if I get a real watered down version even though I know that weight will be lost anyway since it is done with a very low calorie diet (VLCD) - but I really want the benefit of regulating the hypothalamus and "reshaping" of my body. -- PLEASE anyone with any information -- Kindly respond! Thanks, Zandy
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Does anyone know a doctor in south florida that I can go to for hCG? Or anywhere else in the country?
Thanks, Zandy
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| Hi, Sorry I don't know about Florida-I am in Arizona. I have been using a homeopathic HCG. Anyone had this experience? It has worked well-I have had good energy eating well and feeling good. I have been on for about three weeks and woke up the other day feeling irritable. Going to a homeopathic physician I found out that I needed to take a homeopathic pituitary supplement and that has corrected the irritability! I am not losing as fast as some of you but have lost 12 lbs and it feels good. Anyone using the homepathic type of HCG?
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hi Zandy, I am in south florida and have found 2 clinics here that use the HCG diet protocol one is on the west coast the other the east coast if you are interested i can have the coach call you and get you started. we have been meeting in different homes doing our weigh in and measurments and have a support group.
I am workingwith the group on many of the recipes using the 500 calorie allowed foods.
this is my 20th day of a 40 day protocol . i am down 2 pant sizes and 13 lbs. talk about excited i have been dieting all my life and never have seen the inches come off in the places needed. if you have an interest ck out my website and sign on
http://hcgdietinfo.webs.com/
my email is= hcgdietinfo@yahoo.com
thanks babs
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Posted: 8 May 2009 12:30 am |
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hey , i am in south florida and I have been on the simeons hcg protocol for 20 days
I have lost 13 1/2 pounds and lots of inches 2 actual pant sizes.
ck out my site http://hcgdietinfo.webs.com/
my email = hcgdietinfo@yahoo.com
i will help you in anyway i can to reach your goals. i have alot of recipes on my site and had to reset the sight so the site is just restarted againg. look forward to hearing from you . Barb
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Posted: 8 May 2009 12:54 am |
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Wow, an HCG information site that is not selling anything. That is a first.
I read your story, Babs, and I'm glad you have hope now. Stay safe!
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I did this diet, and lost weight. But I was starving the whole entire time. I followed the diet perfectly, and read the book. You are just as hungry taking the shots as you are if you don't take the shots. So if you want to save some money do this diet with out the shots. But I wouldnt recommend that either. The liars out there say, "oh then it must be cravings your feeling and not actual hunger". Well does it really matter what it is? Both are equally painful! Just let me tell you, the whole selling point of injecting this stuff is the ability to eat less with out feeling hungry right? Well if your still freaking starving to death while taking it, than why freaking keep taking it?? I'm shocked at how many people out there will get on this site and lie through their teeth about not being hungry. I think your all selling the stuff!
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| I can't believe you get so wound up about Kevin Treudou? but you turn around and quote Steven Barrett!!!!!!!!!! Do you know who he is?? Maybe you are working for him. If not, he's a failed doctor, a psychiatrist, who was hired by the AMA to go around and call anything other than medicine quackery. He goes after anything and anyone who has any great ideas on how to help people naturally or otherwise that goes against traditional "modern medicine". He is brutal and hated by many people for the lies he tells. People believe him because he has MD after his name for some reason. He has no knowledge with regard to nearly everything he comments on. Once again, he was a psychiatrist. He is paid well by the AMA to destroy people with the use of the huge sums of money the AMA has to do this. He has spent his life trying to ruin the lives of chiropractors, naturopaths, and anyone who wants to help mankind without the use of drugs or surgery. If he is against the HCG diet, you can bet it is safe and effective. This diet must pose a threat to the medical establishment if they sent him out to shoot it down. They will lose money with their diet drugs if word gets out. Don't trust everything the FDA, FTC says. There are many people who have been fighting and losing in court to defend their products, ideas and rights to perform procedures that are safe and effective--yet they are blocked by the long arm of the law that only wants to help the powerful lobby groups related to the AMA. So now we can label them as criminals, and make fun of them--like you did with Kevin. The AMA is threatened (in the loss of $$$) by people who have better solutions than their dangerous drugs. BTW-- those drugs that kill so many people were all approved by the FDA. This is fact.
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Last time I checked Steven Barrett is not a convicted felon unlike Kevin Treudou.
Here in case you didn't know about Kevin . He sounds like he can be trusted... not
"In 1990, Trudeau posed as a doctor in order to deposit $80,000 in false checks, and in 1991 he pleaded guilty to larceny. Trudeau had used the credit cards of eleven customers of a mega memory product to fraudulently charge approximately $122,735.68.[13] He spent two years in federal prison because of this conviction (Choi, 2005). Later, in his book Natural Cures, Trudeau claimed that he has since learned from his experience, and is now motivated to help people rather than merely make money for himself.[9]"
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| Nice!! Unlike Barrett who is still evil
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Yeah and a convicted felon isn't evil
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| Sounds as if he isn't hiding the fact and admits to learning something from the experience. I'm not tring to promote him, just putting things in proper perspective. Not everything you hear coming from the other side is true either. And be very suspicious of anything Barrett says. He has motivation from the AMA in having certain opinions. Just follow the dollar to get to the truth.
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Im not defending either one just pointing out how Kevin Treudou is a convicted crook. I find this product like other quick weight less programs a joke. If someone chooses to use it then great they are trying to change but the best program is diet & exercise . I know I lost 100lbs the old fasioned way . If I can do it after having 2 knee surgery's then anyone can if you put your mind to it.
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| That is awesome! Glad to hear you did it. Nothing worse for the knees than weight. I'm just hearing about the HCG diet for the first time. Wondering how it can be safe if it affects hormones and is found as a cancer tumor marker? I'm very curious to learn more about it--haven't ruled it in or out yet. I only want to lose 10 lbs. to get into a swim suit this summer--buying a boat. I think exercise is the best bet. The only reason I am commenting here at all is because I saw the name Steven Barrett pop up and my skin crawls. LOL
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I can just talk to my experience, that HCG worked for me. I did this because the costs were low, and the program didn't have some exercise routine that was difficult to follow. My sisters lost weight on this program too. I haven't seen too much, so I can't speak to this in depth, but from my little exposure, it works.
So, as they say, do your research and then come to a conclusion with all of the information that is out there. Good luck with your weight loss.
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I am only on my third day of the protocol. I live in a Utah which is a desert, I am naturally very dry. At my clinic they gave me jojoba oil and after 5 min it is gone.
I am wondering if anyone knows of any other products that my be more effective that we can use during the protocol?
For example I have bought aloe lotion, which has no oil listed in the ingredients but I have not used it yet because I don't want to mess myself up.
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| If tomato and pepper's are ok to eat then is fresh salsa? I was thinking I would put that on top of my grilled chicken. Last edited on 17 May 2009 09:08 pm by shoegal_alicea
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I am only on my third day HCG diet protocol. I live in a Utah which is a desert, I am naturally very dry. At my clinic they gave me jojoba oil and after 5 min it is gone.
I am wondering if anyone knows of any other products that my be more effective that we can use during the protocol?
For example I have bought aloe lotion, which has no oil listed in the ingredients but I have not used it yet because I don't want to mess myself up.
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Here is something that will help you with hunger problems while on or off this HCG diet. It's called Glucomannan Root. It's cheap. Mine was $16.00 for the brand name I got "Nature's Way". But you can get any brand. And I've seen it cheaper too. This is just about the safest supplement you could ever take because it's just pure fiber. This fiber swells up in size much larger than any other fiber. It stays in your stomach for a long time making you feel full. And the food that you eat stay's in your stomach longer too. You stay feeling full for longer.. And because your food is leaving your stomach much slower your blood sugar levels regulate. YOU DONT CRAVE SUGAR!. Which also means no more feeling tired. (Which has been the biggest blessing for me) I'm not doing the HCG diet. These Glucomannan pills are all I need. It also of course helps people who are constipated. Although when you first start taking it you may not go number two for a few days. But then after that you should go every day. If you look it up you will find other interesting health benefits from Glucomannan. Like lowering Cholesterol. Today I ate half a peice of pizza for lunch and I felt full. I take three pills twenty minutes before each meal. I've only been taking it for four days now and lost two pounds. I think this stuff will work for a lot of people. I cant see why it wouldnt work for anyone really. There are so many diet pills out there that are just so bad for you. Those fat burner ones may work for a while, but your ruining things in your body that will cause you to gain weight easier later on, after you stop taking the pills. And you cant take them for ever either! They mess up your thyroid, hypothalmus, and your adrenal Glands. And then theres the side effects. But you can take Glucomannan as long as you want. Its just fiber. Like phyllum Seed husk, but thicker. I tried the Hcg diet, and I was just too hungry. I wish I'd have known about Glucomannan back then. I think this stuff will work wonderful with the Hcg diet. Although I think it will work just as good on it's own. I have had no side effects taking it. Look up side effects on the internet, and I think theres only a few temporary side effects which fall under any fiber diet. Alright I've said my peace. I just hope you all try it. And hope you all love it!
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Hi Shoegal, I'm not doing the diet. I did it, and didnt like it. But when I did the diet I used Aloe Vera Gel. Which is just straight Aloe and nothing else.
You have to look on the ingredients label. If there is anything in that salsa that's not aloud in the HCG diet, then No, you can not eat it. You could make your own salsa though and weigh it as part of your vegetable.
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Darla from my understanding of the program the shots are not what help with hunger pains or cravings... its the pills of phetermine(probably spelled wrong) that help with the hunger pains. So you have every right to be mad if someone told you the shots of hcg will make you less hungry b/c they don't. You need the appetite suppressant pills in addition to the shots.
I just started my hcg shots on July 9th with the weight loss clinice in huntersville, nc
I lost 10 pounds last month just eating less and exercising with no help, so i hope to see the shots help me lose inches and more pounds than I could do on my own...if I dont' see at least a 20lb loss or at least a pants size loss I probably won't continue next month.
I will keep everyone updated. I get do the shots once a week at home, and do the 600-800 calorie diet for 2 weeks followed by a 1000 caloried diet every third week. plus the book says to exercise for at least 30 mins a day for 4 days a week but i'm doing it for an hour 6 days a week. and it says to make sure you get lots of protein within 3 hours of waking up and cut back on carbs (unless in week 3)
I am currently 220lbs 5'8 and I would like to be 200 by August 9th and I will post again on that date b/c I'm not going to weigh myself until then. Toodles to all and this website has helped me so much to make more informed decisions on my weight loss journey!
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I use to attend transformations is orlando and participated in their weight loss program. I lost abt 35 lobs in 2 months for my wedding. It was easy. I did not follow the day word for word because I would be sick trying to eat 500 calories a day.
Now, I live in Atlanta. I am 5'2 and 260 lbs. I really need to lose the weight. I finally found a clinic here that does the HCG now I just have to get up the $300 to get started. Hopefully by Mid-August I can start. I want to lose abt 40 lbs by Thanksgiving. I am always tired. I can barely walk up the stairs in my home without being out of breath. I am just tired of the weight and the agony that accompanies it. I will post often to see how everyone else is doing so that i do not get off track. And to answer the questions, yes, it does work!!!! B4 having children I never had any stomach, I gained 90 lbs with my son and have found it dificult to get and keep off but I am determined now to get the life that I devoted to my unappreciative and cheating husband back. NEVER AGAIN!!
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go girl! save that money and get right! but like I did before I had the money I just started cutting out the bad stuff and exercising and I lost 10lbs on a 1700 calorie diet within a month. but I'm hoping to lose at least 20 this month b/c I'm doing 800 cals per day along with 1 hour of exercise at least 6 days a week.
And just like you my lying cheating fiance who I now learned was trying to "fatten me up" when we were together, is now my motivation to really get this weight off and truly get the type of man I deserve not only b/c I'm thinner but b/c I will be that woman who cares about keeping herself up and loving her body! No man wants a woman who is insecure!
I'm 5'8 220 overall goal to be a size 12 or about 170lbs.
also whats this about he oils not on your body?? Dr. Girourad says nothing about this
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Darla
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Posted: 15 July 2009 01:10 am |
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The whole point of the Hcg diet is that you can get away with eating 500 calories a day because your not hungry. Some people I see have totally twisted the diet into their own. The person who discovered and made up this diet is the only person you should be listening to as to how it works and how to follow it. (Dr. Simeons book,) He makes it very clear that the diet will simply not work unless it's followed exactly the way he describes. In fact if you change anything you will gain weight. And this is how he say's it works: The Hcg will only work AFTER your body hits starvation mode. And at starvation mode the Hcg makes your body consume it's own fat for calories. Meaning your body is eating itself. Its living off the calories in your fat, there for you shouldnt feel hungry. Taking a shot of Hcg only once a week or so is not going to do anything. And the book say's starvation mode is 500 calories, not 800. I personally dont believe in the diet. But if your going to try it and spend so much money on I would think you'd want to do it right. At least read the book or the directions that come straight from the source, the man who discovered the link between Hcg and weight loss?
I would never touch Phentermine. Its a drug simular to speed. Its a chemical drug that damages your organs. And the damage it does is weight GAIN! You can lose weight on those kinds of pills (phentermine) but at the same time your hurting yourself. The weight loss doesnt last because you've damaged the organs in your body that control your weight! The damages make you gain the weight back plus a lot more, and the damage also makes it ten times harder to lose the weight again. Like your adrenal glands, Hypothalmus, thyroid....All the things that cause weight gain. At some point during or after taking the pills you've worped them out, so they cant work as well, and that leads to Weight Gain. Look it up, and see how Adrenal fatigue causes weight gain. Those pills usually cause anxiety dissorders too. Not to mention how badly they mess up your metabolism. Your metabolism is toast after taking those pills. Another reason for weight gain, and the reason why you gain back more weight than what you had before you started taking the pills.
I understand the frustration to want to lose weight. I'm still there right now. Im right with you, I am. I get depressed about being fat, and not wanting to go anywhere, wanting to look good in clothes again, having more energy, feeling like it's never gonna happen, getting impatient and wanting the weight to be gone RIGHT NOW! Wanting to take the fast approach because I just dont have the patience...... etc. I'm still feeling all these things. It's really hard. But I know now that there is only one way to STAY thin. To lose weight and keep it off. And that's simply eating healthier, and exercising. Which makes your organs work properly and gets that metabolism head strong! Nothing has to be hard core. Just something realistic that you know you could stick with the rest of your life. Like buy a juicer and make sure you get all four or five servings of vegetables and fruit a day. And walk for an hour and fifteen minutes every day, or close to it. Briskly walking an hour and fifteen minutes can burn 500 calories or more. And get enough fiber in you to where your going number 2 every day. You do all this and eating less will just happen with out even trying. You will feel better mentally and physically. When you eat all the vegetables and fruit you need in a day your cravings diminish because your body has all it needs, it feels satisfied. Exercising also decreases appetite.
I did the Hcg diet and I was starving, it was torturous. I dont see the difference between doing the diet with Hcg, or doing the diet with out Hcg. You get the same results either way. The weight loss is the same, and the starved feeling is the same. Anyone who starves is going to lose weight. And their not going to be healthy. If your willing to sacrifice your health, and dont care about gaining the weight back, then the Hcg diet is for you. I know there's a lot of you out there who are just way to curious that you just have to do the diet anways. I know because thats how I was, and thats what I did. I would be very interested in hearing from you six months after you start. There's a lot of people who dont talk on this forum anymore, and I wonder why!. It's because it dawned on them that the Hcg was doing nothing for them and they were just starving themselves. Something too difficult to follow the rest of their lives.
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EmJay
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Posted: 15 July 2009 06:25 pm |
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wow everything you said is enlightening! Thanks darla.
so if your body doesn't hit starvation mode then the hcg doesn't work. because I don't feel starving at all! and I'm refused to take that phetermine too!
So I'm not weighing myself for a month...but I feel like I'm eating too much. so I don't know about this. I will read the original book b/c though my best friend did this diet with Dr. Girouad in Charlotte and lost 70lbs in 5 months, I'm begining to think it may not work for me.
Have you heard any positive/negative things about the hcg drops you can order online??
I don't mind taking the long road to weight loss, b/c I started on that road before I went to hcg, but since this seems like a booster to the process and I can afford to spend the money, then why not try? Anywho, keep me updated Darla! Thanks so much!
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Darla
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Posted: 17 July 2009 05:42 am |
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EmJay wrote: wow everything you said is enlightening! Thanks darla.
so if your body doesn't hit starvation mode then the hcg doesn't work. because I don't feel starving at all! and I'm refused to take that phetermine too!
So I'm not weighing myself for a month...but I feel like I'm eating too much. so I don't know about this. I will read the original book b/c though my best friend did this diet with Dr. Girouad in Charlotte and lost 70lbs in 5 months, I'm begining to think it may not work for me.
Have you heard any positive/negative things about the hcg drops you can order online??
I don't mind taking the long road to weight loss, b/c I started on that road before I went to hcg, but since this seems like a booster to the process and I can afford to spend the money, then why not try? Anywho, keep me updated Darla! Thanks so much!
I have no idea what diet your doing. What kind of shot are you doing? Are you taking a shot of HCG once a week? It doesnt stay in your system buy maybe two days. The real HCG diet calls for a shot every day so you maintain a certain amount in your body.
How it supposably works is your very hungry the first few days because the Hcg hasnt started to work yet because your still trying to hit starvation mode. Once you hit starvation mode then you shouldnt feel hungry anymore. I think its a bunch of bull.
If your eating 800 to 1000 calories a day, that could explain why your not starving. Especially if you get to eat what ever you want. That's the other thing. With the HCG diet you have to eat only certain foods in order for the Hcg to even work. They say it's the chemical makeup of the food that works in coordination with the HCG. (which I think is another pile of #%@&!!). If you take one bite of the wrong food the whole day is shot! The Hcg makes you gain way more weight than you normally would if you eat even three bites more than your 500 calories if it's the wrong food. You have to weigh the food also to make sure your not going over your 500 calories. Or eating too much of one food. Your variety is so limited that your pretty much eating the same meals every day.
The Book specifically say's oral HCG doesnt work and explains why. But of course tons of people swear that it works. I'm not one of them.
I hear you. Whether many of us want to admit it or not, I think we all would take the magic pill if one existed. And that doesnt mean we're lazy and dont want to do hard work. I think most of us would take it because were impatient and want something fast. I dont mind exercising either, I just hate how long it takes to lose the weight.
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EmJay
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Posted: 17 July 2009 06:21 pm |
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oh ok! well yea i don't think i'm going to continue on next month with the hcg shots... go to letsgetthindotcom and you can kind of see what plan I am doing.
i can eat alot less now without being hungry. but the part about just wanting to eat for the sake of eating is what I struggle with.
I also exercise 60 mins a day at least 5 days a week. i feel better, i just don't look any better. i don't need hcg to starve myself. if want to eat drastically less for 4 months i can do that on my own.
I guess i may lose my sixty pounds in about a year if I'm going to do it traditionally!
oh well. at least i'll be ready by next summer.
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Nir
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Posted: 17 July 2009 07:34 pm |
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| http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/snake-oil-comes-in-all-kinds-of-bottles/ (it is about HCG) Last edited on 17 July 2009 07:34 pm by Nir
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EmJay
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Posted: 17 July 2009 10:28 pm |
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| hey, thanks so much for that! i think thats exactly what I needed!!! you are the shiznit!
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zayaz24
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Posted: 22 July 2009 08:03 pm |
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If you're looking for the hCG Diet close to Scottsdale, look up
Sonoran Oasis Spa. They're great, I've got two friends who have been shedding weight like it was their business and just recently signed up.
One's down 13 lbs in one week and the other is 15lbs in 10 days. I'm starting my process here in about a week and I cannot wait.
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Healthchic
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Posted: 18 August 2009 08:19 am |
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I read past comments on how dangerous the HCG diet can be. I think people are uneducated when it comes to losing weight. What is the point of being skinny if you're not healthy or not alive? My close friend just passed away a week after finishing the HCG diet from a pulminary embolism. 80% of us have clotting disorders that we don't even know about... You tell me... is it worth the risk to lose weight and risk your life and/or health? I've had eight children. The best way to keep weight off is by exercising, eating healthy, and drinking water before eating your meals.
Please, please before considering alternative diet methods, know your body and start with the basics. Love yourself enough to take care of your body....
Live Healthy ~ Your body will thank you!
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Cassiopeia
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Posted: 29 August 2009 06:33 am |
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My problem with the post above me is that it implies that HCG caused the embolism.
I am meant to start next week on HCG and I'm under a doctor's care. When speaking of health issues, it's always easy to spout off about eating right and getting the right exercise. Some of us have done all that and more. My blood pressure is slowly climbing. I'm borderline. BP medications can be dangerous too. So, it's a matter of making an informed decision.
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StanCo
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Posted: 29 August 2009 02:57 pm |
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I was 330 pounds with high BP when I started HCG. In 3 weeks my BP was down to normal and I was dropping weight like crazy. I lost 95 pounds in 4 months, and my wife lost 60 pounds in the same period. We have since seen many friends drop their weight also. We DID NOT do rounds (why stop when you are in the grove?) - so don't do ROUNDS.
I watched my BP every day, because I'd read that HCG will tend to normalize BP naturally, and if you continue with BP MEDS, your pressure can go too low.
"Exercise the weight off" is an URBAN MYTH. It sounds right, but is is WRONG. Only a very few body types respond to exercise as a means to lose weight (Several studies are showing this). To lose weight fastest, you must do it with diet. The HCG Protocol allows this to happen, even assists with the mobilization of fat.
For a large number pf people, obesity is a condition that MUST be dealt with quickly. It is a contributor to high BP, heart problems, diabetes, lots more...
StanCo ( stananddonna at 3rdwave.com ) at=@
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msmccoy
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Posted: 31 August 2009 07:40 pm |
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I must say I respect the opinions of those that feel that taking phentermine and/or hcg is dangerous.
I began taking phentermine last Monday on Aug. 24th. I began the hcg injections on the 27th. I was dead set against diet pills or any other method to assist with weight loss until the traditional way no longer worked for me...I tried very hard to loose weight with exercise and eating right...cutting out all bad carbs! In 3 mths I only lost about 5pds...That was very discouraging..,I have decided to do half the phentermine because taking an entire pill makes me very nervous and jittery after the first several hrs. I take two injections of hcg a wk. I do agree that some people have a misunderstanding of the hcg injectons...the side affects are minimal because of the low dosage...atleast that's what my weight loss doctor told me...I've taken hcg before when my husband and I did invitro fertilization and believe me there's a huge difference and the dosage is extremely higher....so much so that you can nearly feel the heaviness of your ovaries because of all the eggs it's producing and I did this twice.. In the wk that I've been on the phentermine I have already loss 7pds...It's a little scary seeing the weight fall off so fast. My only fear is keeping the weight off...I have made up my mind to continue to eat right and exercise but I would love to hear more success stories of having kept the weight off and less of the dangers. I say less of the dangers because I feel we have all read enough about the meds to decided if our desires to lose weight outweighed the possible dangers of taking the phen and hcg. So please someone share you success stories as to how much you've lost and how long you've kept it off and how you've kept it off..
Good luck to all
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blondie30
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Posted: 31 August 2009 10:32 pm |
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jdogg105 wrote: I discovered a program located in Florida that uses HCG and Phentermine as a weightloss solution. I was wondering if anybody has ever used either product and do they have any major side effects? I am very interested in going on the program because I have friends that are currently on the program and they are losing several pounds per week. Can anyone shed some light on this matter??? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advanced for all your responses.
I have never heard of this before tonight. It sounds amazing. Im am based in the West Midlands Uk, does anyone know where i can get this stuff, do you have to go through the doctor?
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msmccoy
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Posted: 4 September 2009 03:37 pm |
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Blondie 30
I am doing phentermine and hcg shots 40units twice a wk and it has done wonders. Your only side effect will come from the phentermine. Dry mouth is the worse...the side effects are a lot worse at first but I'm on my second week and now the only thing I have is the dry mouth but everyones different. I lost 7pds the first week.
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coolmom39
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Posted: 8 September 2009 01:15 am |
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This is my first post. The reason I accessed this site was because I had just returned from my hometown visit this weekend after finding out that my sister had been on the HCG diet. She's always weighed between 110 - 130, and is 5'5. She felt that weighing 130 was too much. Around 60 of her co-workers were on this diet and doing the injections. A friend showed her how to order the shots online, and how to inject them. She followed the diet for 6 months! She experienced hair loss, memory loss and starvation. Her stylist said she was lucky. Several women have experienced total baldness!! Please see this link. http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml
My daughter was on a dietician/diet doctor phentermine diet. When our family doctor found out, he scolded her because it's a form of Speed. She ended up with excercise induced asthma. He had to wean her off the phentermine gently. Please be careful... A sensible diet, lots of water and excercise seem to be the best way to lose weight...
Good luck!
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msmccoy
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Posted: 8 September 2009 03:52 am |
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CoolMom39,
thanks for the information...Unlike some on this site I am not offended by the things people post to warn us of the dangers....But you really have to consider the situation with your sister....Anyone that small that would go through any extreme to loose weight is definitely going to have grave side effects...There's basically no fat on her body so these meds have to pull from somewhere....I am not surprised by the outcome...As for the phentermine, I can definitely see how it can cause permanent damage...since my last post I have decided that this month will be the only month I take them...I can only pray that there will be no permanent damamge..
Again thx for the info
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quinnlaken
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Posted: 27 October 2009 05:16 am |
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Hello!
I think you should try the sublingual drops of the hcg. It's much, much easier then doing the injections.
Im 16, and i went on this diet for 3 weeks and lost 24 lbs, and went from a size 12, to a size 7/8.
I've been reading on here that people think you caloric intake is 800, when it's really 500.
Another reason why people could not be losing as much as they should, is the people you bought it from could have mixed alcohol into the hcg. It is believed that doing so helps to preserve the hcg, when really, all it does is damages the proteins in the hcg, making it less effective.
here is the link to where i bought my sublingual drops. all you do, it 10 drops under the tongue, 3x a day
hcgbuydirect.com
The website looks fake, i know... But trust me, it's legit.
Thanks!
Laken
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