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winnerforlife
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Posted: 22 April 2012 12:13 pm |
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hey there,
it all began 5years ago when i was a healthy girl aged 14 weighing 53kgs and i lost weight drastically through a combination of exercise and diet regulation and brought it to 44kgs in 2months.the weight loss didn't stop as over less than a year i lost another 10kgs making me 34kgs and went into amenoria.knowing that i was going into anorexia didnt stop me from what i was doing and i maintained my weight for about 4 years after which i couldnt hold on and i began hogging. its been 2 years since the first time i ate like a pig and i have gained 20 kgs.i hate myself now.i am craving for food all the time. i also procured hypothyroid this year which has created further complications.i want to lose weight but i am too emotionally attached to food.i miss my old fit self.
please help me.
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Nir
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Posted: 22 April 2012 01:11 pm |
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Hi. I think there are two things you need - you need "recovery" from your eating disorder (which is still there - just in a different form) and you might also need a bit of practical help with your 'metabolism'.
There are a number of approaches to 'recovery'. There's counselling and psychotherapy and structured self-help groups. There's Overeaters Anonymous (which personally I find helpful). You can use a bunch of self-help techniques like affirmations and self-hypnosis too.
The practical stuff is relatively simple by comparison. Whether this applies to you depends on just how long and how 'consistently' you have been over-eating following the long restricting phase. During the restricting phase your body got used to the much lower calorie intake and it takes a whole bunch of 'predictable eating' for it to get used to receiving more calories and using them in the 'normal' way rather than just piling on the pounds. Leigh Peele has written an eBook called "Metabolism Repair Manual" which talks about how to do this (get your body used to eating more calories, hopefully without gaining weight in the process). To summarise an entire book in a sentence - you cut out exercise completely, start increasing calories gradually (about 100 extra per week), after 4 weeks you're exercising again, after 8 weeks you're either done or in severe cases you repeat the 8 week cycle from a higher intake starting point another one or two times. The book has been written for someone who already has enough "recovery" that they are in control of what they are doing, otherwise they can't follow the plan. Obviously it would be challenging to follow it either with restricting or binging tendencies.
Where do you see yourself with respect to these two issues? which recovery approaches have you already tried or would consider trying?
good luck
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winnerforlife
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Posted: 23 April 2012 07:24 pm |
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first of all,i am really grateful for your reply.
i hadn't heard of the second approach ever before and i am surprised i could be gaining weight because of my metabolism being accustomed to fewer calories.but i wonder how i'll be able to pull of that 8 week cycle all by myself,as in,restrict my calories considering my binge eating and over eating tendencies.
i am currently looking for a psychiatrist but am unable to find one.also self help groups are not situated anywhere close to my loction and its impossible for me to attend any of their meetings.i have subsribed to the newsletters but they are not effective at all.
is hypnosis a good option?
once again,thanks a lot,this means a lot to me.
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Nir
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Posted: 23 April 2012 08:00 pm |
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I think I am getting some benefit from Paul McKenna's hypnosis CD ("I can make you thin")
As far as non-geographic group support, Overeaters Anonymous has "telephone meetings" around the clock http://www.oa.org/pdfs/phone_mtgs.pdf and there are also live 'internet meetings' (using IRC technology) for example http://www.therecoverygroup.org/meetings/index.html
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winnerforlife
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Posted: 24 April 2012 06:10 pm |
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i have always had a doubt about hypnosis.is it safe?
and thanks a zillion tonne for the links,i hope they help me sail :)
really appreciate your effort.
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Nir
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Posted: 24 April 2012 09:33 pm |
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I was also paranoid and listened to every word on the CD to see if I approved before I tried to use it as hypnosis. That is just being too anxious.
Then again, as an ex-anorexic, some of the stuff he says might not be appropriate. Do remember that stay there with your mind, examining what he is saying, during the hypnosis process. You cannot be hypnotised to do something you don't agree with.
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winnerforlife
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Posted: 30 April 2012 08:37 am |
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| will this help me too as i'm no more an anorexic but probably a food addict? Last edited on 30 April 2012 08:38 am by winnerforlife
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Nir
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Posted: 30 April 2012 04:00 pm |
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| The Paul McKenna "I can make you thin" encourages you to eat slowly and mindfully, to switch to healthy foods, to consider if you are truly hungry (and not eat if you're not), to be happy and content - and to exercise too.
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winnerforlife
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Posted: 3 May 2012 08:11 pm |
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| thanks a lot for all the advice! i got valuable new insights. :D
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Diet Coach
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Posted: 5 May 2012 07:40 pm |
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Let's clear up a misnomer. Anorexia is rare and real anorexics don't get fat. Anorexia is a real disease and it is organic in nature. The odds of having anorexia nervosa and then becoming gluttonous are slime and none.
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Nir
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Posted: 6 May 2012 07:22 pm |
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Actually you are incorrect. Some anorexics are also obsessed with food and purge. Some people at Overeaters Anonymous who are dealing with over-eating concerns were at one point underweight anorexics.
Whether you like your belief is immaterial, what simply matters is what happens in the real world. Some anorexics in recovery are still obsessed and concerned with their weight (self-esteem) but just allow it to be in the healthy range. With others once they let go of their fear of food they get stuck in with their food obsession (which during their early recovery is encouraged by everyone around them) and they can cross the line. I guess you are implying that this group was never a "true anorexic" but they invariably were dangerously underweight and requiring some external intervention to 'set straight', which is good enough for most poeple.
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Diet Coach
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Posted: 8 May 2012 11:52 pm |
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Nir wrote: Actually you are incorrect. Some anorexics are also obsessed with food and purge. Some people at Overeaters Anonymous who are dealing with over-eating concerns were at one point underweight anorexics.
Whether you like your belief is immaterial, what simply matters is what happens in the real world. Some anorexics in recovery are still obsessed and concerned with their weight (self-esteem) but just allow it to be in the healthy range. With others once they let go of their fear of food they get stuck in with their food obsession (which during their early recovery is encouraged by everyone around them) and they can cross the line. I guess you are implying that this group was never a "true anorexic" but they invariably were dangerously underweight and requiring some external intervention to 'set straight', which is good enough for most poeple.
Anorexia Nervosa does not involve bingeing or purging. That would be a form of bulimia.
AN is an organic psychiatric disorder. Bulimia is a psychological disorder.
Anorexia nervosa is a psychiatric disorder characterized by an unrealistic fear of weight gain, self-starvation, and conspicuous distortion of body image. The individual is obsessed with becoming increasingly thinner and limits food intake to the point where health is compromised. The disorder may be fatal. The name comes from two Latin words that mean nervous inability to eat.
- Anorexia Nervosa: A disorder where a distorted sense of body image leads to self-starvation to the point of death in some cases.
- Anorexia Nervosa: Syndrome in which the primary features include excessive fear of becoming overweight, body image disturbance, significant weight loss, refusal to maintain minimal normal weight, and amenorrhea. This disorder occurs most frequently in adolescent females. (APA, Thesaurus of Psychological Index Terms, 1994)
Source - Diseases Database - Anorexia Nervosa: (psychiatry) a psychological disorder characterized by somatic delusions that you are too fat despite being emaciated.
Source - WordNet 2.1
Anorexia Nervosa is listed as a rare disease" by the Office of Rare Diseases (ORD) of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This means that Anorexia Nervosa, or a subtype of Anorexia Nervosa, affects less than 200,000 people in the US population.
Source - National Institutes of Health (NIH)
Anorexics don't get fat.
There are bulimics who starve but they are not anorexics.
Bulimia is not rare. AN is. You are more likely to see an albino than you are a true anorexic.
This is not a distinction without a difference. Bulimia is curable. AN rarely is but it can be managed.
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PontiLaks
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Posted: 14 June 2012 11:31 am |
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Due to the life-threatening nature of anorexia, treatment begins with short-term intervention to restore body weight. Long-term therapy follows to treat psychological issues and prevent reoccurrences.
The person is best served in a hospital setting, where constant observation is present. In extreme cases, the person is force-fed intravenously or via feeding tube.
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