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tasha
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Posted: 16 February 2009 12:50 pm |
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Hi there.
Im new to this forum but having read through a number of threads, its seems to be a great place for advice. I put on about a third of my body weight due to medication side effects and am desperate to lose some/all of it! I have been off the drug for several months now but although my weight gain has stopped or at least slowed i dont seem to be able to lose ANY weight even though i exercise daily and eat very healthily. So i have decided to give diet pills a go as a quite boost to my weight loss. Ideally i would stay on them no longer than a month but am open to being on them for a little longer if i have to. So my question is-which diet pill would you advise i try first? I was looking at ordering either apidexin or Orovo? I am looking for something with fast results, that is safe to take, and has least side effects as i need to continue my active daily routine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated as im desperate at this point!
Many thanks
Tasha
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Nir
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Posted: 16 February 2009 04:09 pm |
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i dont seem to be able to lose ANY weight even though i exercise daily and eat very healthily ... with fast results, that is safe to take, and has least side effects as i need to continue my active daily routine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Can I have more information please?
Age, Height, current Weight, how much exercise/activity do you do per day
and how many calories you're eating
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tasha
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Posted: 16 February 2009 05:32 pm |
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Oh sorry-im 21, 5'5'', about a size 10 (i havent weighed myself in ages as im weighed at the doctors and told the difference but dont dare look), i do about 2/3 hours cardio daily plus live an active lifestyle and i eat about 500-1000cal a day.
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Nir
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Posted: 16 February 2009 09:39 pm |
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Unless I've got it the other way around, a UK size 10 is a US size 8 (US vanity sizing). So presumably you're still in the 'normal' weight range even after the weight gain. Let's not overlook the obvious flaw in your plan, 500-1000 calories is too little. You should be eating no less than your unadjusted RMR (which depends on your weight).
Two examples:
BMI 22 -> (Female, 21, 5'5", 132lb) -> unadjusted RMR 1365
BMI 25 -> (Female, 21, 5'5", 150lb) -> unadjusted RMR 1446
see also What It Takes to Lose It All
Hopefully you can see that this drastic approach is not helpful = it doesn't work (well it works for a short time and then it stops working). Going back to your original phrase, neither is it very healthy - because even if you were eating the healthiest foods (=vegetables) you're still unlikely to receive all your micronutrients (vitamins, minerals, fibre, pythochemicals), adequate protein and essential fatty acids in such a calorie range.
You certainly don't need diet pills, you need to get the basics right: eat enough but not too much (looks like the 1400 calorie mark is correct for you), continue exercising, give it some time (a few weeks) and expect results.
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tasha
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Posted: 17 February 2009 12:48 pm |
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| I do understand what you are saying and thank you for your help-its just that i have been off the tablets since November and am excerising to my limit but no weight seems to be coming off. Im not expecting miricals-like 30lbs loss in 30 days or anything, its just my metabolism seems to be so messed up that i cant eat anything without putting the weight on. I was really only looking for something to kick start the weight loss and allow me to eat healthily without putting weight on continuously.
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Nir
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Posted: 17 February 2009 03:32 pm |
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Perhaps some history would be useful.
How many days or weeks or months have you been restricting at 500-1000 calories?
And before that, how much do you think you were eating and for how long?
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tasha
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Posted: 17 February 2009 08:10 pm |
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Ive been restricting to that number of calories consciously for about a year and a half (ever since i was put on the tablets that caused my weight gain). Before that i def had more 'junk' food but still didnt exceed the recommended daily cal intake i dont think although i didnt active count calories. I was a fairly skinny teenager until i was about 17 when i was put on medication (different to the one i refered to before) which caused me to gain weight very quickly and after that struggled with both my weight and body image. However now im just finding it impossible to shift the pounds or to even maintain a constant body weight. Ive asked the doc but because i dont have a high enough current weight, i dont qualify for prescription meds.
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Nir
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Posted: 17 February 2009 09:03 pm |
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If you've heard of 'the starvation response' or 'starvation mode', this is it. Your body has only been provided with 500-1000 calories for over a year. It had to cope in order to survive so it developed coping strategies. To physically recover from this adaptation (and then to be able to lose the excess fat you want to lose) you need to need to 'build up' your metabolism back to normal function. The established way to do that is to increase calories gradually until they're back where they're supposed to be (for weight loss, around 1400 - more for maintenance). Graudally means don't hike them to the target level immediately, step it up 100-200 calories and stick with the new level for a week. During the transition period some weight gain is likely (live with it - worth it in the long run).
The rather separate question you ought to come to terms with is whether eating 500-1000 calories is simply a misguided approach or whether you have an eating disorder. Coincidentally I've been browsing over at http://www.something-fishy.org/ this afternoon and it is quite interesting. For example if you display anorexic tendencies but still have your period then you are classified as ED-NOS (eating disorder not otherwise specfied). As a man does that mean one can never be anorexic or that it is easier to be diagnosed as one? If you're not sure, definitely worth a visit.
If you can come to terms with the idea that what you're working with the idea that what you're doing isn't working and try something else that's more likely to work, you're on your way. If you're emotionally tied to one approach, you'll need to address that first!
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jaymz247
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Posted: 21 February 2009 03:50 pm |
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| Don't order Apidexin, they will not refund your money and will not reply to your emails. I purchased the product in Dec 08 and still have not received or got an explanation of why they didn't ship my product. I would advise in looking at another company. I just lost $200 dollars!
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tasha
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Posted: 23 February 2009 11:50 pm |
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I do appreciate your concern Nir-i am however monitored by the doctor due to health reasons and so hopefully anything would be picked up by her. I dont think my reaction to my weight gain is that suprising-most women would be slightly worried by such a gain in such a short space of time i think!
Has anyone tried PatenTrim, Thermodrenix or Fenphedra?
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doglover7
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Posted: 14 March 2009 02:44 am |
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I only took one pill of Apidexin and made me feel sick for 3 day. My blood pleasure was very low and my heart was beating so fast that I thought I was having a heart attack. The two days after I took this pill, I woke up several times in the middle of the night with panic attacks. Also I felt so nauseous that I barely ate for 3 days. I wish I never tried this thing. I did lose two pounds with one single pill, but it because I felt so sick that I could eat. I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody.
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