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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 1 December 2008 10:18 pm |
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| The best thing I can tell anybody is their diet and exercise (if they do not have any other medical problem that interfers with weight lose). A person can eat whatever they want and not gain weight if and only if they burn those calories in a day through exercise. If I consume 1500 calories a day, and at Curves I burn 600, and then my morning walk 400 and then 500 thoughout the day from work or whatever. I will maintain the same weight. Now if I cut my calories to 1000 a day and exercise the same I am burning an extra 500 calories. Therefore I will lose weight. That is some peoples problem they consume more calories in a day then they burn therefore they will gain weight. So I have decided that carbs are my weakness, pastas, potatoes, breads, crackers etc. I am cutting back on carbs and I have decided to not eat anymore junk food as I did before. I think I will try the diet pills as an experiment, to see if they actually help, the thing with diet pills is that once you stop taking the pills it has been proven that you will gain a large portion on the weight back. I myself certainly do not want to be on diet pills for the rest of my life. Last edited on 4 December 2008 10:57 pm by Heavy
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K-Money New Member
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Posted: 1 December 2008 11:01 pm |
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Ok, it's 5:56 p.m. and I have taken the prescribed dose for the day. Honestly, I have had a headache most of the day. I am thinking it is from the caffeine in the pills. But, I am not certain of course. No nausea, just a little spacey for most of the day. More spacey after I take the pills. I wonder if Apidexin took the caffeine out of the pills, or lowered it significantly they would have better results???? It seems people are having the most problem with the stimulant piece of the product. Going to the gym in an hour for my first work out with the pills.
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Hellrazor New Member

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Posted: 2 December 2008 02:05 am |
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Heavy wrote: The best thing I can tell anybody is their diet and exercise (if they do not have any other medical problem that interfers with weight lose). A person can eat whatever they want and not gain weight if and only if they burn those calories in a day through exercise. If I consume 1500 calories a day, and at Curves I burn 600, and then my morning walk 400 and then 500 thoughout the day from work or whatever. I will maintain the same weight. Now if I cut my calories to 1000 a day and exercise the same I am burning an extra 500 calories. Therefore I will lose weight. That is some peoples problem they consume more calories in a day then they burn therefore they will gain weight. So I have decided that carbs are my weakness, pastas, potatoes, breads, crackers etc. I am cutting back on carbs and I have decided to not eat anymore junk food as I did before. I think I will try the diet pills as an experiment, to see if they actually help, the thing with diet pills is that once you stop taking the pills it has been proven that you will gain a large portion on the weight back. I myself certainly do not want to be on diet pills for the rest of my life.
This will back fire on you. You should never eat below 1200 calories in a day or you body will start to hold on to fat. Go read the tutorials to help you cause in the long run this will back fire on you
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sheena New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 07:14 am |
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I've used both slimquick hoodia and slimquick extreme and I find them to be just as effective. I find the slimquick extreme to be slightly cheaper as well. Great results with both products, much recommended to my fellow ladies! ".I also used Proacto that l can also help provide longer lasting weightloss result Last edited on 2 December 2008 09:22 am by
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K-Money New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 09:11 am |
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Ok. as you can see it is 4 a.m. and I am awake. I went to the gym this evening, work out was very good. Heart rate was very elevated which was fine and felt good after having a dull headache for most of the day. But, as you can see pills cause insomnia, as many have stated. I believe it is the stimulant in them. Can you say ZOMBIE?? It really is like speed. I am tired but can not sleep and feel like my mind could be going 100 miles a minute. I think I slept, some time tonight, not really sure. For the people on here who have taken the pills for any length of time, wow hats off to you all. The energy you get is good by the dull headaches and not sleeping to me is not worth it. It really can not be good for your brain and blood vessels. So to be honest, after tonight of feeling like I am so buzzed I can't sleep, I have decided not to continue to take them and feel they are probably bad for my over all health. I had hoped to have taken them to drop that extra 5-10 pounds but instead of making my health better I feel it is actually making me feel worse. The side effect for me were not "oh I am going to die" but the stimulant factor (feeling buzzed, a dull headache all the time, not being able to sleep, feeling starving when you start coming down off them) This is ridiculous and all I can say is Apidexcin makers - Are you frick'in kidding me??? Only 2% send this back?? That 98 % love it? I find that very hard to believe.
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smarti New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 01:37 pm |
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| I have taken the pills for a month now and have not lost 1 pound. My closes do feel like they fit different, put I would not pay for any more of the pills.
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met1330 New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 02:55 pm |
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well Y'all have convinced me not to buy the pills. Thanks guys!
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 04:04 pm |
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Hellrazor:
In response to "This will back fire on you. You should never eat below 1200 calories in a day or you body will start to hold on to fat. Go read the tutorials to help you cause in the long run this will back fire on you" That statement in itself is false. Men and woman both have a different amount of calories they require a day. It also depends on a persons age as well. I studied nutrition and I am quite a wear of how many calories a person should consume BUT it depends on their age, weight, height, gender and how active they are did you know that?
" If your goal is to lose weight by burning off excess body fat, aim to eat 500 fewer calories per day than your daily caloric needs, and maintain or increase your exercise activity. Do not go below 1200 calories per day unless you are on a medically supervised weight loss program or after consultation with your doctor."
I personally consulted with my doctors before I started my own weight lose program I consumed lots of food, just the right kind, I did not starve myself. I exercised and ate well thats how I lose 60-70 pounds. Also if a person is counting calories take note that each gram of protein and carbohydrates = 4 calories, each gram of fat = 9 calories. Thats why foods with a high amount of fat contains more calories. At my current age, height, weight,(I am female) and how active I am, I should be eating around 2400 calories on average to maintain my 175 pounds, but I aim to eat 1000-1200 less then that amount in order to lose weight. I feel great at the moment I have made a complete 360 and am sliping back into the old healthy me I feel great. I guess I just got tired of waiting for the pills (that I still have not received ... lol). I just started believing in myself, telling myself I can do it. I work at an office job (part of the reason why I gained so much weight back) but at lunch time I do my streches and crunches, to get my body moving after sitting for a few hours. It has made a big difference. Even 5-10 minutes a day at first changes your lifestyle and combined with eating well you will lose weight you can move it up to 20-30 minutes a day of physical activity. I did this to gradually ease my body back in it. I found that if you try to go full out the next day and days to follow you will be really sore and probably give up. Well just some thoughts, better get back to work.
Kay
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Hellrazor New Member

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Posted: 2 December 2008 05:17 pm |
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Well I can tell you that my wife was your weight and she was eating around 1700 calories a day and she has lost close to 60 lbs. I was eating anywhere from 1700 to 2500 calories depending on the day and I have lost 100 lbs. I hit a plateau and I decreased my intake of food and guess what I didn't loose any weight. Once I upped the food and changed my routine up it started coming off. You have to look at your body like a water wheel. The more water the faster the wheel spins . I know everyone is different I was giving my thoughts on what I think will happen.
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K-Money New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 05:24 pm |
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Met,
Honestly, I am glad you chose not to bu them, because I know I had really high hopes and I thought everyone's experience is different..I'm tough...how hellish could it really be? It is pretty bad if you ask me. You know when you are trying to sleep.....your mind slows....you can almost feel your heart slow down...and then you drift off. Well on Apidexin, I was lying in bed with my eyes closed, tired mind you.....and your heart just never slows down. It wasn't beating irratically hard but much harder than normal and did not slow down enough to let me sleep. I felt alert and I thought this is crazy. All this for some weight loss? Nah. Ridiculous..... can not be good for you.
I am on my way now to the post office to return my unopened bottle. :)
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 05:45 pm |
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I appreciate your thoughts, and yes everyone is different that's what makes us all so unique. One weight lose plan that works for one person will not necessarily work for another. Congratulation to you and your wife Hellrazor. Have you managed to keep most of it off? I have gained confidence and I fell great although I only lost 10 pounds lol, just 30-40 to go. A good point Hellrazor makes tho is when your body gets use to the routine usually the weight lose will decrease or come to a standsill. Adding new activites and food choices to your routine will mix it up and you should differntly return to losing weight.
Kat 
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Hellrazor New Member

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Posted: 2 December 2008 09:34 pm |
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Yes I have maintained my weight of 165lbs since July. I give myself a 5lb leeway and have only gone up those 5lbs due thanksgiving Congrats on your weight loss!! 10lbs is 10 lbs and any loss is good. Just keep in mind what I said if yours stops look at what you are eating and exercise
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 2 December 2008 09:54 pm |
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Thanks Hellrazor, thats awesome you have maintained your weight. I have been switching my eating habits, I am limiting the amounts of fat and carbohydrates and upping my exercise. My boss made me order pizza and wings for everyone for dinner, I am so proud that I declined, I walked to the store next door and bought a light healthy snack to curve my craving. (I did my lunch time exercises in an empty office) I also drink alot more water. Because I have worked and studied nutrition I like to get invloved in different diets, I stay away from harmful products. Once finding this forum (that was nowhere to be found when I was researching it ) and realising that the pills I ordered were not FDA approved I don't think I really want to take them (if I ever to receive them). Have you took them Hellrazor? If so how do you find them. Also where I picked up smoking a few years ago I think that also added to my weight gain as I am always trying to quite. I use to smoke a pack + a day now I am down to 3-4. I think like many others I used food to replace a smoke. But like I said I feel great!!! Well backto work!
Kat
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Posted: 3 December 2008 03:40 pm |
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Hi everybody,
So I received my pills late last night, and it is 8:33 am and I have just taken 4 of them (3 detox 1 diet pill) with 2 large cups of water. I informed my boss here at work that I have been on here and that there might be some side effects such as spaciness. I don't want my boss thinking I am on the dope. I am paranoid because now I have read what everyone has wrote and I think my mind is running with that. I am experimenting. I am combining exercise, diet pills and the ATKINS' diet to see what result I get. I will let the pills settle and I will write how I am feeling in a few hours. (My belly hurts but I think it is just from the 16-20 ounces of water I just washed down!)
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 3 December 2008 04:14 pm |
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OK so I feel weird, but like I said maybe it is just my mind. I don't really want to eat my breakfast and I usually enjoy it. I feel anxious for some weird reason and I had to run to the bathroom. Hmmmm also I got cold chills really bad....I don't know it that was just a coincidence or not? But I don't feel sick, just weird its hard to describe, maybe my body is trying to adjust to them.
Kat
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Posted: 3 December 2008 06:08 pm |
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OK that was terrible, I had to run to the bathroom, to spare you the details it wasn't pleasant. It has been 2 and a half hours since I took the pill. I feel better I think the pills have worn off because I have intense hunger pains in my stomach, which normally I don't. I feel less detached from my body so maybe the pills have worn off thank god. I could barely concentrate at work and in my position as an administrator I need to be alert as I don't screw numbers up! I thought they wouldn't be like a laxatives but lets just say that I just saw last nights supper for the second time. (Sorry guys just want to let you know what to expect). Ummm something weird my skin tingled, I still feel a bit weird but not nearly as strange as before. I had three 10 ounce glasses of water already...omg gotta run to the bathroom.
OK FALSE alarm, I am back. Where was I oh yes, I had to turn the massage setting off on my office chair because it was making me feel sick (weird because everyday I have it on). Also my mouth feels dry and I have a weird taste in my mouth. YUCK! So am I suppose to take 4 more pills at lunch time (4 hours apart)? If someone could get back to me before 12:30 it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Kat
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 3 December 2008 07:43 pm |
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So I just have taken my second batch of pills. Nope the chills are differently not a coincidence! The taste I have in my mouth is nauseating YUCK. Has anyone experienced any of the side affects I have described so far? No matter how much water I drink it feels like the pills are stuck in my chest. WEIRD
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Posted: 3 December 2008 10:09 pm |
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| Kat, after a few days my side effects went away. I do feel a little sick to my stomach if I do not eat within 1/2 hour of taken the pills, but other than that I am doing ok on them.
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Posted: 4 December 2008 01:55 am |
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Hi Brian1684,
Did you and your wife get back on track with the pills. I ordered my pills yesterday and was excited to see both of your success stories, sorry your wife was getting sick. What has been your total weight loss so far? and are you still taking the pill. I like that there is a positive forum whether it works for people or not. Will keep everyone posted once I start taken the pill. Still haven't read anyone answer whether they have taken the pills after 2 months.
nervous 
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Hellrazor New Member

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Posted: 4 December 2008 03:04 am |
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Hey Heavy is all those crazy side effects worth it?? Also Atkins diet not a good one
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K-Money New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2008 03:06 am |
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Heavy,
I have been reading your blogs to see how you are liking the pills. I am glad you received them. I didn't ever have bathroom issues just the spacey feeling at work, a headache and could not sleep at night. How have you found them while sleeping?
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K-Money New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2008 03:06 am |
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Hellrazor,
Are you still taking the pills?
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Hellrazor New Member

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Posted: 4 December 2008 05:05 am |
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Never took any pills I did my the old fashioned way with Diet and Exercise 100lbs lost
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2008 03:44 pm |
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Hi Hellrazor and everyone.
My boss is on the Atkins diet, there is steps to it. I reduced my carb intake, I don't think it is healthy to totally cut them out all together because when I lost my 65-70 pounds it was from exercising and dieting following Canada's food guide which includes grains as one of the four food groups. Like I said I am using this as an experiment as I went to school to study nutrition and personal training. Well to answer K-money's question. Sleeping sucked, I had to take something to get to sleep. Felt similar effects a person who was on speed or cocaine would feel, strong pounding heart, I had a massive headache, and I know this is really gross but after I ate supper I felt weird gurrgaling feeling in my belly, then I had to run to the bathroom it was horrible. Lets just say the detox pills are turning everything I eat into liquid. So yes maybe the side affects will go away. PEOPLE WHY ARE WE DOING THIS. Is it because we feel this is our last resort? We have tried everthing else? I think some people just are impatient or lazy. They want to loss the weight insantaniously. When I lost my weight I admit it was hard but once you are in the rountine it just becomes easy. I ordered the pills, first I gave up but then I got back into my routine while waiting for the pills, so it became an experiment. I want to test what the company says 5-15 pounds on the detox, come on. CAN YOU SAY FALSE ADVERTISING, directed at people who are looking for an answer and who are down on themselves. Maybe it should read 0-15 lol. Also I just took the pills , once again I have massive chills, my stomach kills, and I know soon my skin will tingle and I will be spacey. Hellrazor I am doing this for everyone who takes these #%@&! pills. THEY ARE NOT FDA APPROVED. This product should not even be on the market. And maybe with my help and others I can make that a reality.
Kat
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:11 pm |
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Ok so after I just finished my posting I went to get some water in the dining room at my work next to my office. I almost didn't make it to the bathroom. OH MY GOD can you say gross. I know DETOX usually works the same as a laxative but come on people. Also the colour reminds me when I had to take dye pills. Bright yellow! This is not normal. Ok so my belly has gotten flatter but I think it is because I have been doing my ab master in the mornings. As to weight loss I will weigh myself Saturday at curves, thats after I have taken all the detox pills. I told my fiance NOT to take the pills. He has a weak stomach. But he wants to do the detox. He thinks I am over exagerating the sideaffects, if he only knew. Well at least I can tell him, I told you so!!! If anyone on here has experienced my side affects can you please tell me. AGGGG this stupid taste in my mouth, that keeps coming up in my throat. I drink to 10 ounce glasses of water with the pills also. Well back to work.
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:18 pm |
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Hi Heavy,
Do you think the pill and detox is working for you? It sounds like it is, aside from the side affects you are feeling. Look forward to reading what your weight is like after you weigh yourself.

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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:24 pm |
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:34 pm |
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Heavy,
Stop taking them. I am confused by why people decide to take diet pills and expect not to have discomfort or side effects. Everything you put in your body is going to have a reaction to it.It's something different , your body isn't used to it. However if you are feeling that badly about it, STOP! Do you know anything about what detox is, it's a cleanser cleaning the waste in your body, that could of been built up for years inside of you. You have to let your body adjust, but not at the risk of your health and mental health.
Good luck!
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:41 pm |
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I am quite awear what a Detox is Nicole. I tried the herbal teas that do the same thing, but worse (you can't leave your house, best to do on days off). I try different diets for study to draw my own conclusions. The expression "don't knock it till you try it". Same concept. Maybe it is working for me. Like I said I lost 65-70 pounds before by combining my knowlegde together. Like I exercised in the morning then ate to boost my metabolism and ate 5 small meals instead of 3 large ones etc. You think dieting and exercising isn't hard work and tough I personally know it is. You don't have to tell me. No pain no gain, basically what your saying.
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K-Money New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:41 pm |
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Heavy,
I took the detox and I didn't have any of the bathroom issues you are having.....a few more stools but not loose at all. After you are done taking them, that should stop. For your sake I hope so. I have not taken the pills for three days now and I just starting to feel normal again. I am glad to hear that you had the same side effects I did at night and I wasn't the only one. I just got really scared that it can't be good for my heart .
As for your eating plan Heavy, honestly my motto has always been lots of vegtables, moderate fruit, keep protein to around a deck of cards for a rough judgement, and add some whole grains (breads/cereals). I think white rice, pasta and white bread should not be staples in a diet unless you are a marathon runner or have a very active metabolism. Also, when you see a condiment chose better.....mayo, salad dressing, special sauce, cream sauces....you know those are the fats that make good food not so healthy.
And as you can see from everything you are writing it really is a lifestyle. I think for me, I try and eat healthy as much as I can. I don't fuss too too much, because I know I am going to cheat some. But for the most part, I choose the veggies, and whole foods. I take myself (lol) to the gym 5-6 times a week and it is just a part of my life. It just is, every day (with one rest day) something that will be good for my heart and weight loss. I think that when it becomes part of a life style, you don't have to worry so so much about calorie counting because I think weight will go up a little and then down depending on the time of year or occasion. If I go up a pound or two, I just cut back a little and know it will come off because I know I will be going to the gym every day and it will come off in a week or so.
I think you weight loss is great Heavy and it sounds like you know what you are doing. Keep exercising on a daily basis, and I think cutting back on carbs is a good thing. Sugar and starch are good uses of fuel but make sure you are getting lots of veggies and your lean protein. You have lost your weight due to better food choices and consistent exercise and I think that it the way it will continue to come off.
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:44 pm |
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Hellrazor,
A 100Lbs is an awesome amount of weight to lose....was this weight that creeped on or was your weight a nemesis for most of your life? I have never taken diet pills before and this was my first time trying something like this. I have always been active and try and chose good foods but thought this may be a tool to get a little more fat loss at a quicker pace. Boy, what a trip..... It was very unnatural these pills.
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Posted: 4 December 2008 04:59 pm |
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Hi K-money,
Yes I agree. I am great with portions, I like to go to curves 5-6 times a week (I am just starting up again) resting on Sundays (they are closed). I like getting up early and doing my ab master it only takes 7-10 minutes, I have an office job so at lunch I go into one of the empty offices and do some exercises. When I get home I dance (I use to be a dancer thats why I lost weight and had so much strength), I like turning my satilite to my favorite music channel and go full out..LOL I feel so good doing so as I stopped dancing a few years ago. Have you lost any weight on the pills, or noticed a difference K-money? I know it is only my second day but I am noticing a change in myself. Umm your right in that different times of the year weight gain and lose can be expected. In summer people tend to be more active, which slows down in the winter months (if you are like me and it feels like I am in the north pole where I am from lol ). Well back to work.
Kat 
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Posted: 4 December 2008 09:56 pm |
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Hi Heavy,
Honestly, I only took the pills for one full day. I have taken a few other things, Hoodia etc. just to give me an edge but none of those were like Apidexin. The reality is that I think I was slightly dehydrated because you are taking the pill and the detox and drinking all this water that keeps going right through. If the pill did not have such a strong stimulant in it, I think I would have felt better. I knew taht I would feel different taking them and expected some differences but not at the level that I experienced after just one day. The first night when I went to bed and could not sleep I thought if I had any health issues or was predisposed to a stroke or anything else this medication could certainly help it along and the feeling was not worth putting me at risks for heart issues or stroke. I think that after a few days if you are still feeling poorly Heavy you should not put yourself at risk even for a study. But you will know best when enough is enough.
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Posted: 4 December 2008 10:40 pm |
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Honestly K-money, last night I was tripping out. I kept think for some reason that the pills would cause my death in some spontaneous way (heart attack and stroke, my family has a very long history of both , my uncles, papa and grandma all died). I kept thinking that internally the pills were really doing a number on me. I dunno it came with the anxiousness and headache. I think too much I guess. I noticed today that, the second time I took the pills it didn't affect me that greatly. Thank goodness. I would never compromise my health to the point where it would affect me in such a negative why that it could kill me. Tomorrow will be my last day for the detox, I will weigh myself, compare my results to that of the pills site (5-15 pounds). Then I will in describe in detail my experiment.
Also K-money what time did you take the second pill (4 including the 3 detox pills) ? This would be very important information to draw a conclusion to a thought I have.
Kat
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Posted: 4 December 2008 10:57 pm |
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| In responce to nicolelove, have you taken the pills? Duh I waited like 20 days for them, and I have been reading on here of course I expected sideaffects. People have to realize just because it says "all natural ingredients" DOESN'T mean that it is good for you. I detox usually before I start a diet so I know the pros and cons.
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Posted: 5 December 2008 12:21 am |
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Hi Heavy,
I took the first set of pills at around 9 a.m with tons of water, thinking this best because I eat around 10:30 a.m. A later breakfast then some people. I felt a little light headed about 30 minutes afterward but nothing I couldn't deal with. Like I said I kind of thought it relaxed me initially. I ate at 10:30 a.m. and then had lunch at around 1:00 p.m. I didn't take the second dose until a little later because I was feeling so buzzed and was starting to get a dull headache even though I had been drinking water the whole time. So, I waited and took the second dose at around 3:30 p.m. which I knew was late in the day but thought that I don't go to bed until around midnight, that I should be o.k. To be honest I even poured a little out of the pill to make it less strong. I took it, about 30 minutes later I was zooming again. I went to the gym that night and was ok during my workout. A little winded but felt better. It was later that night at around 11:00 when I realized how high I was...lol. At 4 a.m was when I wrote the blogs saying I was still up and felt like my heart was racing and could not get it to slow down. To be honest Heavy, I just dredded taking another one...lol.
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Posted: 5 December 2008 03:36 am |
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K-Money wrote: Hellrazor,
A 100Lbs is an awesome amount of weight to lose....was this weight that creeped on or was your weight a nemesis for most of your life? I have never taken diet pills before and this was my first time trying something like this. I have always been active and try and chose good foods but thought this may be a tool to get a little more fat loss at a quicker pace. Boy, what a trip..... It was very unnatural these pills.
Read this and you will get your answer.
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum1/7659.html
Once you read that then look at my avatar take a guess what it is. So to the people that think they need to take diet pills if I can do it the old fashioned way anyone can you got to want to do it
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Posted: 5 December 2008 05:00 pm |
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Hi guys,
hmmm. Had a rough night last night. Finally got to bed around 11:00 and was up again at 4 am and remained awake. I notice my heart rate increases on the pills and I feel really out of breath when I run or do any physical activity. I am urgy to this morning and my chest feels tight. On the plus side I will be finished my detox today, my pants are looser and my belly flatter. While doing the detox and taking the diet pill my routine was as follows: Morning - ab master 7-10 minutes, walk to the bus stop then to work from my drop off stop (10-15 minutes). At work (8:15-8:30) I take my 4 pills(3 detox 1 diet pill) with two 10 ounce glasses of water. Then I eat 30-45 minutes later, usually something really small like a cereal bar or hot cereal which I usually can't finish because my stomach is so turned. Around 10:30-11:00 I have very intense hunger pains. Then around 11:45-12:00 I take my second set. Then I eat half an orange and a whole wheat sandwich or tuna and crackers which I have to force myself to eat. Then I go into an empty office at work and to some exercises for 10 minutes. When I get home I prepare my fiances supper and make a light one for myself (pasta and veggies or a small portion of what I cook him). Then after supper I usually turn on my fave music channel and dance (hip hop, aerobic etc.). I have a hard time getting to sleep, the first night was good last night not so great. My chest hurts on and off. I feel anxiety for the first 2 and a half hours after taking the pills. My emotions are elevated (I started crying this morning) and for the first 2 and a half hours I am more withdrawn at work. Then I get hyper, crazily hyper!!!! Umm I know it is gross but my bowel are still very loose and I still have that gurgling feeling in my belly, I hope and pray that once I stop taking the detox it will go back to normal. Another plus I do feel great when I am coming down off the buzz once it is over I feel skinnier. WEIRD lol K-money maybe if you had taken them earlier it wouldn't be so bad because I know if I take them any later I would not probably get to sleep at all. Also yes I get high off of them, it was the first time this morning I took them at home. The bus ride was horrible cause I felt like a coke/crack head (its like I am buzzed do I look buzzed does everyone know I am buzzed lol) and we have lots of them around here.
Kat
Oh I weigh myself tomorrow, I will update on Monday.
Last edited on 5 December 2008 05:15 pm by Heavy
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Posted: 5 December 2008 08:27 pm |
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Hellrazor,
Great job and congratulations on your new found health!! I would be interested to know what it was in the book that really motivated you?
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Posted: 5 December 2008 08:39 pm |
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Well at the time I read it the new Rambo had just come out and I loved that movie. I was on a big stallone kick at the time I read it. It was real down to earth almost felt like he was talking with me. He spelled out it real simply and just that you have to put your mind in to it to wanna change. I recommend it highly and maybe it can inspire you like it did me
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Posted: 6 December 2008 01:39 pm |
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Hellrazor,
Thanks for sharing your story and it is interesting to see what inspires people to get healthy. So, if you don't mind me asking....were you at a normal healthier weight most of your life before your daughter was born and you were dealing with the knee injury? And how does your knee affect your work outs today, do you still have pain?
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Posted: 6 December 2008 01:55 pm |
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No I was skinny most of my life until about 2004 when I became a little lazy. Yes I do have chronic knee pain daily. I try not to let it effect my workouts I just know how far I can push it and if I over do it I have relief at home . A lot people think " well you have had 2 surgery's why are you still having pain" I think that to myself everyday. I wish I knew why but I don't . I was told I could have it for life and the surgery's were done to possibly take away my pain which it didn't . I wish my injury was a sports injury or something like that. Mine was a bone defect that sat dormant for 35 yrs and something triggered it . I just try and keep positive and think you can do it just try
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Posted: 6 December 2008 06:46 pm |
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Hellrazor,
I think that is a great attitude to have, really!! I have had my share of minor sports injuries (ankle sprains, tendonitis etc.) but about three years ago I tore my hamstring muscle. I would say that it is maybe back to 98% now, but it took three years to feel like I had the same strength in it and even now if I run or sprint hard enough I still get a little twinge in that are to remind me that it's never quite the same. I would like to say that I think your knee will become a 100% again, but I think some times for some people it never really goes back to the way it was. I think probably some sports athletes could attest to this.
Well I commend your strength, so many people just say I can't do it because......because because..... and don't believe they can. I love the show Biggest Loser and have watched for several season's now and love when they "get it" and their bodies have changed enough that you know that fire has been switched on and they will most likely continue to live a healthier lifestyle.
I wonder how Heavy is doing on her pills :)??
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Posted: 6 December 2008 08:17 pm |
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Thanks and hope 1 person can read my story and be inspired to change I will be real happy. I'm going on my 3rd year of dealing this and I'm real tired of being in pain. Most of the time I'm good with it but we all have bad days. I'm meeting with a surgeon in a couple weeks to see if I'm a candidate for a replacement . They say that roughly 85-90% of people that have this done notice relief from pain almost immediately . If he tells me I'm to young blah blah blah I will tell him how I have the drive now to rehab it and plus being young would help a lot with that
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Posted: 8 December 2008 05:19 pm |
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Good morning everyone,
Just here for my update. I finished my detox on Friday. Since then just taking the two apidexin pills a day is going well. I think my body has gotten use to them and I do not feel horrible and everything seems good (I think combined with the detox was what was making me sick). Before I started taking the pills I was around 182-186 pounds. I weighed myself today at curves (I started curves today, while taking the pills (8 a day 6 detox + 2 apidexin) I did moderate exercises) I weighed da da da da 172.4 pounds Not bad not bad.
Kat
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Posted: 8 December 2008 08:13 pm |
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Hi heavy,
I just received my pills today, I'll start tomorrow. Congrats on your weight loss.

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Posted: 8 December 2008 10:20 pm |
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Last edited on 8 December 2008 10:21 pm by Heavy
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Heavy New Member
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Posted: 8 December 2008 10:21 pm |
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Thank you. I still do not think diet pills are the answer. LOL BUT if an individual is set on taking apidexin be warned that if you can get through taking the 3 days of detox it isn't so bad after that. I researched this pill before I started taking it. Something interesting to note while I was cleaning I found some important information I mis-placed the main ingrediant in APIDEXIN is DiCaffeine Malate: the legal ‘alternative' to cocaine SIDE EFFECTS are: jitters, insomnia, headaches, increased heart rate and blood pressure. I was so upset with myself!!!! I mixed up the ingrediants. I was sure I chose the pill that did not contain this. I knew deep down tho because to be honest I had a substance problem in my youth (2years ago). I knew the effects I was feeling but I kept reassuring myself that I did my homework and I picked the best diet pill that did not contain this as I am very sensative (I was hypersensative (kind of like allergic but you can't say you are allergic to illegal drugs) ) Because if my heart rate increases to much its hard to steady it again. I guess thats why I had such a bad reaction. But now that I am just taking the 2 pills I don't feel that bad, its tolerable but sometimes I feel so overwhelmed. Well just wanted to let everyone know.
Kat
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Posted: 8 December 2008 10:53 pm |
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WOW that doesn't sound like anyone should use it.. That would explain why you had to force yourself to eat something and also explain why you felt buzzed cause you were
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Posted: 9 December 2008 06:39 pm |
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After you got the email about the money being put back onto your card..when you returned it....how long did it take to show up?
for everyone who has returned it. :o) thanks :o)
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