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Darlene5
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Posted: 13 August 2008 12:41 am |
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Well Im a bit disappointed in my self. I ate ice cream and peanut butter toast today. It was just too hard to control today. Sucks!
And I just ate some cookie's Screw it! I've already screwed up the whole day may as well enjoy it. I'll be back on track tomorrow. I hope I at least stay the same weight instead of a gain. Its the fourth day of my period and I took a shot today. Maybe thats why the cravings are worse today. Who knows.
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tinkerbell
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Posted: 13 August 2008 02:41 am |
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Darlene,
Just start back tomorrow, it will come off in 1 or 2 days. At least it did with me when I've cheated. I gained 2 to 2 1/2 ibs. I have to work at it hard because I have events I have to attend which of course usually means meals and I'm not in control of what is servered and prepared. I eat before or take my meal with me when I can. But, I have lost 18.5 lbs and have 7 more days to go. Tomorrow I should be under 250, I hope. So if you cheat just get back on the wagon. I leave 2 days after I finish the shots for a 2 1/2 weeks which includes a wedding. I just hope I can keep everything under control. Keep up the good work.
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cynda79
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Posted: 13 August 2008 10:23 pm |
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Darlene,
enjoy your cheat day! like you said start over 2moro. Today is my 3rd day of shot n 500cal and i am not hungry at all. I have maybe had 1/2 chicken tender (boiled) and couple bites of cabbage in past 3 days, Do you know if I have to eat? what about the fruit, I feel so guilty about carbs that I dont ever eat fruit
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cynda79
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Posted: 13 August 2008 10:53 pm |
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does any one know if i can get syringes for the HCG? Im afraid to look like a drug addict if i ask pharmacy... im in arizona. thnks
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Darlene5
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Posted: 14 August 2008 12:10 am |
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Cynda If you are going to be injecting Hcg into your self, then you will want to follow the protocol. The two go together. You dont lose more weight the less you eat. Infact you lose less that way. You have to eat at least 475-500 calories each day. No less, no more. Also You need the certain chemical compounds in each of the foods in order for the body to respond to the Hcg correctly. So there are only certain foods you can eat, and no other foods. Kevin Trudaue's Book, and Dr. Simeons protocol tells you which foods you are suppose to eat. Trust me if you dont eat the write foods, you wont lose nearly as much, or you wont lose any. Example: ( The protocol says you can only chose between these three fruits because of their chemical compounds and how they work with Hcg weight loss: Strawberry's, grapefruit, and Apple. If you eat a Mango instead it will screw up the whole weight loss process, and you probably wont lose as much that day or none at all.)
How much weight do you have to lose?
Why do you need needles? What have you been using instead of needles thus far?
Darlene5
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Posted: 14 August 2008 02:24 am |
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Hi Darlene -
I just started the HCG injections about 10 days ago. I have read through your comments on the forums about the humger. I have been very hungry these last few days and have cheated on the diet. I'm not sure if that just makes the hunger worse for the next few days or not, but I'm actually hungry in my stomach and not sure if I'm doing something wrong. What did you to to help the hunger subside?
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Darlene5
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:13 am |
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Hi Stacy, I dont know what to tell you cause I"m still hungry too. And as you saw, I just recently cheated. Some days are easy and some days are hard. For me anyways.....Thats the weird thing. A lot of people say it's not hunger and that its cravings. But the book says your not suppose to have cravings. And to me cravings are just as hard as hunger. But the cravings do go away a little, and like I said I have plenty of days where it's some what easy. Also I do know that the Hcg IS in fact decreasing my appetite. Its just not by a lot. Its like just enough to be able to do the diet. Im different though, from most people doing this diet. So if your like everyone else your hunger will probably go completely away. I dont drink caffiene so that might be why I have hunger. But dinking a butt load of water helps me the most : )
Are you doing injections or sublingual? In the muscle or Sub Q? And from where did you get your Hcg?
What ever you do dont give up. I know that it gets better.
Darlene5
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Stacey
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:25 am |
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Thanks Darlene!
I'm doing injections and into the muscle. I got my HCG from a doctor in Tennessee that I was seeing for hormone replacement. I really need to lose about 60 pounds at the least.
I would say what I have is hunger because I had lots of cravings before and this is different - it's hunger. I haven't been having caffeine either - does that have something to do with it? I'm not a coffee drinker and have never really liked tea unless it was sweet.
I did have tea for breakfast yesturday, but didn't drink it all. I need to get some Stevia to sweeten it. Do you know where you find that? I'm thinking I need to go to a whole foods store or something. We don't have those here in our town, but I think I need to find one maybe.
Stacey
PS - did you increase you dosage? I have seen people mention that too. I think I will call the doctor and ask them tomorrow. They had told me that after the first week the people they had on the diet were not hungry at all.
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cynda79
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:36 am |
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Darlene,
I read the books and understand what is supposed to be done but I just can not bring myself to eat. I have been calculating what I eat and its under 100 cal. I know this is not good but I am just not hungry. I started at 137lbs and I am down to 134lbs I would like to get back to my normal weight of 110lbs. I am injecting myself with HCG that I purchased in Rocky Point but I have used all the syringes that I bought, do you know if I can reuse them? (I am not sharing needles with other person) Maybe soak them in diluted bleach H2O?
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Darlene5
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Posted: 14 August 2008 05:37 am |
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Stacy, I think when its in the muscle you can go up to 200 IU for the injections, but no more. I'd ask your doctor what they think though. I never upped my dose. I do 250 injections Sub Q. The dose is larger cause its in the superficial tissue and not muscle. Are your injections daily? If not then that could be the problem.
You sound like me. I had 60 pounds to lose in the beginning too. And I dont drink coffee. I know that for most people Caffeine can decrease their appetite somewhat. So I was thinking maybe those people have it easier. You can get Stevia at Fred Meyers, in the healthfood section. Thats where I got mine.
I hope it gets better for you soon! Keep me posted : )
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Darlene5
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Posted: 14 August 2008 05:52 am |
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cynda79 wrote: Darlene,
I read the books and understand what is supposed to be done but I just can not bring myself to eat. I have been calculating what I eat and its under 100 cal. I know this is not good but I am just not hungry. I started at 137lbs and I am down to 134lbs I would like to get back to my normal weight of 110lbs. I am injecting myself with HCG that I purchased in Rocky Point but I have used all the syringes that I bought, do you know if I can reuse them? (I am not sharing needles with other person) Maybe soak them in diluted bleach H2O?
Cynda, Are you taking anything else other than this Hcg? Any diet pills? You should talk to the clinic where you got the Hcg from about this if possible. I havent heard of Rocky Point. But this doesnt sound healthy to me if your only eating around 100 calories. Not only that your probably waisting this Hcg, because it doesnt work like its suppose to if you not eating the full 500 calories. So right now your probably losing LESS weight than you would if you were doing this WITHOUT the Hcg. Maybe they can lower your dose so it's allowing you to eat more. I really have no idea.
How many times are you injecting yourself each day? And what's the dosage? You shouldnt be out of needles this early.
No, you should NOT Reuse the needles. Please dont, it's not safe.
Cynda, how Tall are you?
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EweWho
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Posted: 14 August 2008 02:52 pm |
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Yes, Darlene, I read your entire post. But look at your first statement in the post. You stated as fact that you are doing injections and that sublingual doesn't work. "I got Injections. Sublingual doesn't work. The molecules in Hcg are too large to enter sublingualy. And Kevin in his book says it doesn't work." Then you qualified that you have heard that a ton of people are doing sublingual and maybe things have changed. But the first statement is fact, the second sounds like your own thoughts on the matter.
To be defensive, you first have to take offense, and I didn't take offense at your post, I was just trying to point out the fact that the protocol works many ways on different people. What works for you may not work for me. That is why someone can't make statements saying that this or that works. I personally know a girl who has lost more than 100 pounds using 125IU subcutaneously, so I know it works that way too. As a matter of fact, everyone that I see doing injections is doing SC, not IM.
I *think* possibly the reason I came across the way I did is because being an admin on an hCG forum we have to keep things balanced there and with more than 700 members it isn't always easy, quick judgment is required. I overstepped here because I saw a flag in your statement that made me respond. I apologize for that. I have to remember that information or misinformation on this forum is someone else's responsibility. You are right, I should have just written a statement that said that sublingual works for me, and those I personally know that are doing the protocol.
I try to speak from experience, mainly mine. If I say something that is contrary to protocol, I tell that someone is doing this or that and it worked or did not work for them. I always clarify that it is a deviation and that it may not work for everyone.
The problem with making statements as being facts, even from Kevin's book, is that there is always room for interpretation, how you read the statement, and how the reader of your post interprets what you are saying. The best example I can give in regards to KT's book is that in one place he states to mix your vegetables. In another it says to NOT mix your vegetables. The first one is obviously a typo, but one person may remember clearly that the book says to mix and state that as fact. Another case in point is that in Dr. Simeons' original manuscript, oranges were listed. In the Microsoft Word file, they are omitted, probably an error by the typist. KT also omits them. I use them because they are in the original manuscript's pdf file, which is a direct copy of the book.
I've been on protocol for almost a year and I am still learning new information daily. This forum was pointed out on our forum and I dropped in to see what I could learn from the members here.
Good luck on your journey.
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:26 pm |
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| Cynda, I am really concerned that you are not eating your 500 calories on this protocol. You have to force yourself, it's very important or your body is probably going into starvation mode and I would bet that you are losing muscle not fat. It's very important to follow this protocol properly for it to work.
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cynda79
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Posted: 14 August 2008 10:27 pm |
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Hi Darlene,
I am not going to a clinic I got the HCG from a pharmacy in Rocky Point Mexico so I am doing this on my own. I only bought 5 syringes because I wasnt sure of size. I used the last one today and dont know if I can buy over counter. I inject myself with 250iu daily. Today I have forced myself to eat more like you said its so weird though because just the smell of food makes me nauseous it reminds me of when i was pregnant but that is impossible because my husband had a vasectomy. Anyways my height is 5'5"
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Posted: 14 August 2008 11:05 pm |
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Katiepen, what are your thoughts on this??
Cynda, I just really hope you stick with eating at least 500 calories each day. I'm not experienced enough in this to know what kinds of things you can do to help you eat more. Katiepen might have some ideas though. She's done this protocol a few times already. She might know where to get more needles too. As I dont. The only thing I can think of is maybe taking less Hcg and see what happens. And dont drink Caffeine if you can.
Im hoping though that this place in Mexico didnt give you something other that good clean Hcg.
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Posted: 15 August 2008 12:27 am |
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Katiepen, Dr. Simeons protocol doesnt include Broccoli as one of the allowed vegetables. But GHI Medical has Broccoli on their list of allowed vegetables. Seeing how you also went through GHI medical, I was wondering if you ate broccoli during the diet? And if so did it work out ok?
Thanks, : )
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cynda79
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Posted: 15 August 2008 01:26 am |
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Thanks Darlene
I was able to get new sterile needles and syringes at pet feed store
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Posted: 15 August 2008 02:07 am |
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cynda, I'm so glad that you are eating your food, I was really worried. Try some different foods if you're still getting sick. How long have you been on the protocol?
darlene, I did not have broccoli. I stick with Dr.Simeon & KT and when I"ve tried to stray ( as with the mango) I pay the price in 0 pounds lost.
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cynda79
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Posted: 15 August 2008 02:32 am |
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2day is my 5th day on protocol. I have always had an eating disorder...to the point where I would fast drinkning only water and black coffee for up to 7days to maintain weight. I put on 30lbs in past 6months so I was very disgusted and disappointed in myself for losing control, maybe this the reason why its difficult for me to eat. Perhaps it is all in my head? What I can say is that this HCG is helping me not be hungry at all just thirsty and I am drinking lots of water but seem to be urinating less than what I would expect from all the water consumption. Dont know if any of this makes sence but just wanted to post
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Posted: 15 August 2008 04:05 pm |
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Hi Cynda
I've struggled with an eating disorder too and it definately messes with our heads. And I totally understand how you feel about gaining the weight although I know that I've talked to myself like that, it hurts to hear you be so hard on yourself. I did this protocol last year and lost 30 pounds. I didn't finish phase 3 correctly and got really liberal on phase 4 and over the last year I gained the weight back. I was very hard on myself for not completing this process which I truly believe is the answer for my many years of struggling, along with therapy to deal with the stuff in my head about my body. I think that the important thing to concentrate on now is the present which is the only thing that we can change. We've found the answer, we're doing it, we need to be supportive of ourselves and gentle with ourselves. I've lost 28 pounds again and I have 12 more to go. I will finish phase 3 to a tee and follow the principles in phase 4, I've learned my lesson. The only thing that can get in my way now is my negative self talk and I don't want to let that happen.
You're on the right track, be gentle with yourself and Hang in there!
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cynda79
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Posted: 15 August 2008 04:18 pm |
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Big THANK U to Katiepen and Darlene for all your words of support...it realy helps to be able to communicate with others that feel the same way I do. Something that I noticed today is that I can "feel" my right ovary. sometimes before my period I get somewhat of a pulling sensation in my ovary area and the doc told me before that its normal just the female body going through ovulation, but I am not near my period yet and I can feel the same sensation. Its not more than what I would normaly feel just not the right time. Should I be concerned? Is this normal with HCG? It is supposed to stimulate the ovaries right?? Any feedback will be great
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cynda79
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Posted: 16 August 2008 03:32 pm |
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HELP....now that I started to eat the 500 cals (even had 2 apples yesterday) I PUT ON 1.5lbs why? what is going on???? I was losing when i was restricting food...Oh my this is a sad sad day for me.
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I read post about yerba mate and had a cup last nite to help me sleep...do you think maybe this caused the gain????
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cynda79
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Posted: 16 August 2008 04:04 pm |
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| Where is everyone at??? HELLO HELLO????
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cynda79
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Posted: 16 August 2008 04:27 pm |
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| told u guys today was gona be sad day! I tried to give myself the injection just now and hit a vain because got blood when i pulled back plunger...now im scared what if i keep hitting a vain. I need you guys where r u???
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Posted: 16 August 2008 05:56 pm |
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Hi Cynda, Most women ovulate about fifteen days after the first day of your period. So if your period starts on the 5th of the month then you would probably ovulate around the 20th. Some women ovulate more than once a month sometimes, and some ovulate at totally different times of the month. So it's hard to say in your case. I do know that taking Hcg makes you more ferile. It does stimulate the ovaries. But I dont think that this small amount can do much. Unless your in pain I wouldnt worry about it.
Darlene5
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Darlene5
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Posted: 16 August 2008 06:01 pm |
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No, the Yerba Mate tea wouldnt have done that. And you probably shouldnt drink it before bed time cause the stuff is simular to caffeine in that it gives you energy.
Tell me everything you ate yesterday, Exactly every thing. In portion sizes too.
Dont panic ok!! It's all going to be ok, it could just be the fat moving around and it could just be water weight. Dont worry!
Darlene5
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Darlene5
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Posted: 16 August 2008 06:03 pm |
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Cynda, How long are your needles, and where are you giving the injections????
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cynda79
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Posted: 16 August 2008 06:18 pm |
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Darlene,
yesterday I ate small red organic apple for breakfast, 1 chicken tender boiled with cup of cabbage for lunch and dinner. I had 2nd apple in beteween lunch and dinner. H2O throughout day. I did not have anything after 6pm with the exeption of yerba tea. I had trouble sleeping and woke up around 4:30am and had large glass of water because I was so thirsty but didnt weigh myself till regular time at 6:30ish. Do you think the water made difference? The needles I use are 1 1/2" and im injecting upper thighs. Should I do the "apple day" I still havent had any food today because im so freaked out. Please tell me what you think
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Posted: 16 August 2008 06:39 pm |
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How many grams was your chicken? It should be 100 grams weighed Raw. Its really important to have a scale, and weight it exact. But everything else you mentioned regarding what you ate sounds good.
Did you get any oils on your fingers? Or anywhere else on your skin. Did you use any lotions of any kind? Could you have gotten butter or any other oil or oily soap on your hands while preparing food for your husband or kids?
Cynda I really wouldnt inject in the thigh. Its dangerous. Especially with a needle that long. There are major artery's and veins in your thighs that you could hit. Where on your thighs are you injecting? I've done Invitro twice, and with the long needles I was always told to inject in my upper lateral buttocks region. Thats your upper butt and then a little outward away from your spine. Like the Butt/hip region. But with out proper instructions or someone making sure you know exactly where, this can still be risky. You might want to look on the internet for pictures that show where this is. I'll try to find it myself too ok?
Or maybe you can go back and get shorter needles. That way you could do it in the stomach, with now sweat.......super easy and safe.
Darlene5
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cynda79
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Posted: 16 August 2008 06:59 pm |
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I didnt get any oils on skin because i use gloves when cooking and cleaning up. do you know of chapstick that i can use? my lips have always been dry and now on this diet it is worse. I got the thigh area injection from doc website that uses HCG for fertility problems...wow i didnt know it was dangerous. could i get shorter needles and still inject thigh? there is no way i could inject my stomach area and injecting butt area would keep me from being able to see blood when checking for vein right? Geez I feel like such an idiot maybe im just 2 stupid for this diet
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Posted: 16 August 2008 08:52 pm |
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| okay i went out and got 1" needles, this is the smallest size store carries. do you think this will be okay to inject into thigh? the needle is shorter but seems just a tid bit rounder
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Posted: 16 August 2008 11:33 pm |
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No, no, no, your not an idiot : ). I dont think its dangerous to inject into the thigh if you know what you are doing. Ok? If this is the best way you feel comfortable than thats how you should do it. I didnt know you had good instructions on how to do it. At least if you keep having problems with it, you have the shorter needles you can try. When you inject the Hcg do you then take your finger off the syringe before pulling it out of you? Cause that might cause a little suction.
I'll get back to you regarding the chapstick. I saw somewhere that mentioned an ok chapstick to use. I just have to go find it.
Be strong, and dont give up! : )
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Posted: 16 August 2008 11:39 pm |
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Cynda, I dont want to tell you what size needles you should use. I think you should go with what ever is most comfortable for you. And then just make sure you do enough research about it. (When it comes to injecting correctly, and in the right location.)
As far as you gaining weight. Im not sure what caused that. But you should just give the diet a chance and see what happens. keep eating the whole 500 calories. NO LESS. And see what happens. It may have just been water weight, or the fat moving around. Or a number of other things we dont know about. I think you'll know if the diet works for you or not, if you give it a full fair chance. So hang in there : )
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Posted: 17 August 2008 12:09 am |
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Ok I read on this website, http://www.hcgutah.com/hcg-faq.htm
that Carmex is ok to use because it doesnt penetrate the skin. But Regular chapstick is NOT ok.
But this website could be incorrect. I have no idea. I know that lipstick is ok to use, so maybe Carmex is too.
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Posted: 17 August 2008 02:11 am |
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| Thanks for all your help Darlene. I guess today is just not a good for me. My left thigh that i hit vein this morning is somewhat sore...nothing alarming just feels like after workout muscle sorness. This should be normal right? no possibility of blood clot since i didnt continue with injection after hiting vein right? i tired googling and got lots of usless info. Darlene, how much weight have you lost? is the weightloss noticable? Im thinking perhaps all this stress over what can go wrong with injections is just not worth it. but at the sametime im telling myself 2moro will be 1 week and that i should just hang in there
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Posted: 17 August 2008 05:54 am |
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I'm new at this so I don't feel comfortable giving advice, I'm still learning. But here is some info.
I use Syringes for 1/2cc for 50 units or less, 5/16" length needle & 30 gauge needle. They are small and thin and I haven't had any trouble with the thigh or stomach & they don't hurt. I had a fear of needles and couldn't even watch a needle going into the skin on tv. At first my husband gave me the shots, but now I'm doing it. I had too when is work hours increased and he wasn't here.
I've stayed at the same weight for 2 or 3 days and then dropped 2 or 3 lbs. Friday I gained 1/2 lb but Saturday lost 2 1/2 lbs. So that may happen to you some. Our bodies are all different so we will lose in different ways. I have 3 shots left and I've lost 21 lbs and that's with cheating 3 times. One time I did what Darlene did and decided I was going to enjoy it since I knew I was going to gain anyway. I could have lost more, but decided not to dwell on that, just be grateful I've lost over 20 lbs. I still have 3 more days with shots so it could be more.
Just keep trying it is worth it.
Here's a couple of hints that the clinic gave me that may help:
I don't know if the first statement is made in Kevin's book or Simeon's plan. I have been told not to eat the same fruit or protein twice in the same day by another program that worked very well.
Please be advised that you should not eat the same protein, vegetable, or fruit twice in the same day.
Apple Cider Vinegar can be used on your salad and marinated on your daily proteins (organic beef, breast of chicken and white fish). This stimulates metabolism and cleansing of the internal organs. It is also powerful in helping to release stored fat cells. Eat Breakfast. Eating breakfast helps to increase your metabolism, decrease appetite and increase your morning blood sugar for energy throughtout the day.
Eat 6 small meals per day ( only in stage 1). This helps to increase your metabolism and release abnormal fat reserves.
Eat salad with lunch and dinner. Eating a salad made with fresh vegetables helps to stimulate digestion and adds fiber which helps to regulate blood
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Add Fiber. Fiber will help relieve constipation, reduce appetite, improve
digestion and cleanse the body of toxins.
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Posted: 17 August 2008 05:57 am |
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Cynda, If you know you hit a vein then your most likely not injecting in the right location. Thats why I feel it's safest and easier to use a shorter needles. If you do this you shouldnt have any problems. Your also already pretty thin, so I would slightly pinch the area your injecting.
I've lost 15 pounds, and yes I can tell. I see it, and feel it. I lost 15 in 28 days. I didnt lose any weight the whole five days of my period. And there were two days here and there where I didnt lose anything cause I had cheated.
Im not sure why you keep mentioning blood Clots. I've never heard of that before. What would cause that?
Darlene5
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Posted: 17 August 2008 06:07 am |
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Thanks Tinkerbell, Well maybe thats why I'm not losing more. I eat the same vegetable with each meal. I hate asparagus though! I literally gag on it. So would a cup of regular lettuce for lunch and a cup of cabbage for dinner count as being different. I mean what else is there? I cant sit and eat a cup of radishes, or a cup of onions. And a lot of the time I eat an apple for both lunch and dinner. I gues I'd better change that! : )
Thanks,
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Posted: 17 August 2008 06:19 am |
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It's worth trying to see if it works for you. I know that Simeon's plan says to eat only one type of vegie at a meal, but combine sometimes like spinach & a little onion (tsp). Can we use lemon? You could put lemon or apple cider vingar on your aspargus and don'g cook it so that it's too soft, a crisp can make it better.
Good luck with the rest of this round for you. I leave for a trip next Thurs which is my 3rd day after my last shots. So that should be interesting making sure I don't eat more than 500 cal. I'll be gone for 3 weeks, which scares me a little since I will be eating out all the time. I need to read that stage again before I leave, because I'm not sure I understand what I'm suppose to do yet.
I have to go to bed so I can get up for church in the morning. Have a great day!!!
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Tinkerbell
Be sure to follow phase 3 while you're gone, this is the most important step of the whole protocol. If you cheat all could be lost. Trust me, I know from experience. No starches of any kind including beans & potatoes. And no sugar of any kind, this is very important, you have to check for hidden sugars, no honey, agave nectar, maple syrup, etc... Other then this you are not restricted but you have to be very careful if you're eating out. Bring your own dressing for salad or just get oil & vinegar most other dressings can have hidden sugar. Restaurants put sugar in everything. Eat very basic and try to find organic. Ask lots of questions and don't get any sauces. Good Luck!
Cynda, hang in there. You have to follow the protocol. The weight gain was probably protein deficiency from the days that you didn't eat. As I said before the weight loss there was probably muscle & water, not fat, so you have to give your body a chance to even out. Follow the protocol no matter what keep going and you will start losing. If you stop eating again then you will just keep the cycle going of it not working. give it another week eating everything that you are supposed to. And I agree with the others, use shorter needles. There's no need for those long needles. I also inject in my upper outer buttocks and it's easy and I've never drawn blood. Relax, take a long detoxing salt bath everyday, you are being too hard on yourself.
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Darlene5
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Posted: 18 August 2008 01:09 am |
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I have cravings so freaking bad! I want donuts!!! And icecream, and cake! Its horrible, the craving is so strong. And If I could just eat some bread! or even a little peanut butter would sufice. I've been over my period for days now and still havent lost any weight. I did nothing wrong yesterday except eat my dinner at around 9-930 pm when I usually eat it at around 6:30. And then I went to bed at midnight. Thats all I did wrong yesterday, and I gained weight! I'm not giving up, and I wont cheat, but it's so flipping hard! And I'm not doing no Apple day! ha ha ha
I'm getting my Hcg from a different place for my second round. I really dont think this Hcg I've been using works good enough. And I'm thinking of doing it in the muscle this next time.
Just felt like posting cause I'm bored. : )
Darlene5
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Posted: 18 August 2008 04:43 am |
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Hello Ladies,
I Read everyone's posts and Im glad that everyone is doing so well. Darlene you are so strong for not giving into the craving especially since you are on your cycle. sugar is my weakness when its my time of the month. Here is my update: I totaly freaked out yesterday after the "bad injection" because my left leg became very tingly, somewhat sore and my toes little numb, no discoloration, swelling or bruising though Long story short...I had a panic attack late at night thinking I had a blood clot and it would travel to my lung and kill me... my hubby just about had it because I scared him and then refused go to ER...what would I tell the doc? Anyways today I droped the 1 1/2lbs that I had gained but I didnt give myself shot because my hubby asked me not 2 and I felt so guilty for scaring him that I agreed. I didnt get hungry and I ate normal protocol menu but it was difficult to do so. Should I start shots again tomorrow and continue with diet? Thanks for listening to my whininning
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Posted: 18 August 2008 06:03 am |
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Cynda, what could cause a blood clot? I'm still not sure why you feel you could get one.
I think that you should use the shorter needles. Wouldnt that solve your problem?
Darlene5
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Posted: 18 August 2008 03:03 pm |
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Hi cynda
yes, the hcg is still in your system. Take your shot today and continue on the diet and you will be fine. If you don't take the shot today you will be running out of the hcg in your system and then the 500 calorie diet will just make you tired and weak and you will go into starvation mode. Take your shot right now and relax. If you do a search for hcg forums and read about all the people doing this and self injecting I have yet to find anyone who got a blood clot. relax, use the smaller needles. You will be right back on track.
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cynda79
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Posted: 18 August 2008 03:34 pm |
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Thanks guys
I will strart back on shots today. If i get shorter needles what size? will the smaller still reach into muscle? Darlene, the blood clot formes when there is trauma to the vein and during the healing process the clot gets too big to disolve and can travel to lung, heart or brain...causing death, stoke, heart attack
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tinkerbell
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Posted: 18 August 2008 03:49 pm |
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cynda,
Check my post on 17 August 2008 12:54 am for some suggestions. I put the part about needle size from the post below. This may be of help.
"I use Syringes for 1/2cc for 50 units or less, 5/16" length needle & 30 gauge needle. They are small and thin and I haven't had any trouble with the thigh or stomach & they don't hurt. I had a fear of needles and couldn't even watch a needle going into the skin on tv. At first my husband gave me the shots, but now I'm doing it. I had too when is work hours increased and he wasn't here. "
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cynda79
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Posted: 18 August 2008 04:09 pm |
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| Thanks Tinkerbell off 2 buy new needles i go...2day will be a good day!
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Darlene5
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Posted: 20 August 2008 01:32 am |
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Hey Stacey,
Are you still out there? havent heard from you in a while. Are you still feeling hungry?
Darlene5
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Darlene5
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Hi guys, well I cheated again today big time. I dont even feel guilty cause I know it was completely impossible not to. I really dont think this Hcg works on me. I tried very hard, but the cravings are just too strong. Maybe I'm already immune to the Hcg because I was so overflooded with it when I was pregnant with my twins ha ha ha ha Either that or I got a bad batch! Depressing cause I dont think I'll be swimming in Vegas like I hoped! I only have I think 10 more shots left. And I've only lost 16 pounds. Because I cheated today that sets me back at least two or three day's before I'll lose anything again. So if I keep with the diet for the remaining shots, I'll probably only lose around four or five more pounds. If that!.
So I lost 16 pounds in 30 days. I think I could lose that much weight with out the Hcg. And eat what ever I want in the process. Maybe a diet of 800 calories of any food I want. Sounds better to me. Also this Hcg makes me tired and feeling depressed all the time.
But I'm glad for so many of you that it works for! Maybe I'll try again with Hcg from a different company.
Darlene5
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katiepen
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Posted: 20 August 2008 03:18 pm |
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Darlene
What are you talking about it doesn't work for you. 16 pounds in 30 days is a good weight loss and it comes off in all the right places. If you go on an 800 calorie diet you will lose muscle & water not fat and you will put your body into starvation mode so that you will rapidly gain the weight back after the diet. I strongly encourage you to not throw away all of your hard work, finish phase 3 and wait until you feel ready again to do another phase. You've worked too hard to mess with your body like that!
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