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rawfoodie
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 Posted: 11 May 2005 03:24 am
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I believe that those who have done liposuction are people who are not strong enough to take control and transform themselves to healthy human beings. Sure, you will lose weight with liposuction but it's so bad for you, so many side effects. I've posted this b4 but the goal should be to become HEALTHY rather than to just LOSE WEIGHT.

Pezzzzzzzzgrl
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 Posted: 15 May 2005 06:08 am
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Ive personally never done it, but...

to each, his/her own! :P

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kklageorge
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 Posted: 21 June 2005 07:45 pm
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I personally have done it, twice.  I had four boys early on.  I'm 35 years old.  I will tell you that lipo did not give me the results I wanted.  It was all in my abdomin area.  I will also tell you that 10 weeks ago, I had a tummy tuck.  I love it and would do it again in a heart beat.   Going along with that is the Body for Life Diet and excersise.  I'm really excited to have a new start.

But, it was a choice I made and I am happy with it.  Isn't that the point?

LA

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 Posted: 21 June 2005 07:51 pm
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That's the one thing that really always made sense to me.

If you lose the weight -- and can keep it off! -- having the left-over flabby skin removed seems like a nice reward.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 22 June 2005 05:02 pm
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It was a huge reward.  AND, I love it.  I just can't wait to tone the rest.

Once you change your lifestyle, it seems easy to me to stay in the groove.  And I feel that if you do excersice, from time to time you can indulge in a meal that would not exactly be the greatest....but you need to be commited to an exercise program.

The tummy tuck just gave me a HUGE advantage to keep going. ;)

LA

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 Posted: 22 June 2005 11:39 pm
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Hey to you all,

I am a brand new member. I happened across this website while searching for a calorie counter on line. So far, the information and posts have been really great. The calorie counter is also wonderful...just what I needed.:)

It is also nice to have a place to voice concerns and ask for advice from someone who has been in that situation before. I had to respond, to this post, to give my own opinion and advice.....I had a tummy tuck and liposuction in Nov. of 2003.  I was not, at that time, or am I now, a "weak person" who "could not take control" and become a healthy person.  I did not do it for the "weight loss" effects. In fact, I only lost about 8 lbs total after three months of recovery.  I did it because my stomach muscles were completely destroyed due to the fact that I had a 9lb baby and then a 10lb 22in long baby. With my second son, I weight 192 lbs at his birth and in 6 weeks, I was back in my size 6 clothes.  I lost too much too fast and the skin on my abdoman was stretched like laffy taffy.

I am extremely excited about the results of my surgery and even with all the pain, I would do it again tomorrow.  I am MUCH more confident about my apperance and it has inspired me to go on to lose more that 15 more pounds in the last year and a half and my goal is just 9 more pounds away (yeah!!!).  I work out for 30-45 minutes 5-6 days per week and eat lots of friuts and veggies and drink plenty of water.  Plastic surgery is not for everyone, but it should be an individual decision and no one should be made to feel like they are less of a person because of it.:crying:

 I know the journery is not easy, but the rewards are great. Best of luck to all of you!!!

Deb

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 Posted: 23 June 2005 05:30 pm
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Thanks Deb!

I would do it again in a heart beat as well.  I am only 11 weeks post op now.  I had mine done for the same reason.  I had four children and there was no getting my tummy back by just working out.  Now, I have a bunch more confidence.  The same thing happened to me after my 1st son.  I weighed 180 when I had him and in about 6 weeks I weighed 100lbs. 

Thanks for the post. 

I think it is cool that after over a year you still love your results.  It was the best thing I ever did for myself.

Laurie Ann

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 Posted: 24 June 2005 07:35 pm
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OK i have a question about lipo and tummy tuck. I am only 24 married with 2 beautiful little girls and weigh a whopping 155 at 5'3". I am very unhappy! I see girls my age with nice fit bodies and I have been trying for almost 2 years now to loose the rest of the weight. I did weight watchers for 6 months and lost 20 lbs, but we moved and there is nothing around here, but gyms. i do aerobics 3 x's a week, total body 3x's a week, then walk 45 min. the opposite days, with rest on sunday. Anyway, how much is lipo and a tummy tuck? Do you have to pay all up front? I have been seriously thinking about it lately. My weight is ruining my marriage because I hate the way I look and won't let my hubby touch me. What is recovery like? Is it really painful? Does it take away some of those "i have kids" stretch marks? And does anyone know a good way to get rid of those stretch marks? :?

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 Posted: 24 June 2005 07:48 pm
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Hello #%@&!kidz,

Are you calling your "two beautiful little girls" your #%@&! kids? Just curious.

You ask some good questions and I hope you get some good posts in reply. But I'd also like you to take a look at this post about what my older daughter said:

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum23/76.html

Peter:monkey:

P.S.

To anyone reading this, a hint about posting. When you have a specific subject, like the cost of a tummy tuck, you will likely get more posts in reply if you start a new post under that specific subject, e.g., What does a tummy tuck cost?

kklageorge
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 Posted: 24 June 2005 08:13 pm
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Hello DK

OK, it sounds to me like you are doing all of the right things.  My TT cost $10,000.  It will remove all of the skin below your belly button so if you have stretch marks there, they will be gone.  They also sew your muscles together.  Mine were separated from having 4 children.  With my Plastic Surgeon, I had to pay upfront, but he takes care of everything.  The cost included 2 nights in the hospital as well. 

There is a great Tummy Tuck posting site with a ton of information and people just like you with questions.  It is called breasthealthonline.org. You will need to set up an account but it really helped me before and after my surgery. 

Laurie Ann

DeborahTew
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 Posted: 25 June 2005 07:39 pm
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Hey DK!

My TT was $6,000, but I went home the same day (in office surgery, no hospital stay). I believe, that the state you live in will govern whether or not you can have in-office surgery or not.  Most doc's are going to want the money up front, basically because what recourse would they have to get you to pay after they have done the surgery? It's not like they can repo the implants or put the fat back in (he he he) A lot of places have financing, as crazy as that sounds. You can also ask if they offer a discount for a cash payment. I saved 10% by paying cash. 

 FYI, it hurt like crazy!! :crying:  But I survived, and it was one of the best things I have ever done. Something else you may want to note: Liposuction will make you swell up. Depending on the person, it could happen right after surgery or as late as three months after. It was almost three months before I could fit in the jeans I wore right before surgery, but after 6 months they were too big!! Laurie Ann could tell you her time frame for swelling, if she had any, so you could have two compairisons. Word to the wise, don't plan on being two sizes smaller in a month after surgery, it could take alot longer.  My advise, have it done in the winter when you can wear baggie clothes over the girdles and have several months to recover before bikini season:D   One more thing, make sure you are done with having babies before you decide to commit to this, otherwise, you could end up ruining everything you have done.  Can you tell this is one of my favorite topics to discuss??!!

As far as your work out regimine....Are you taking an aerobics class or working out to a video? If you are going 3x's per week and not losing any, maybe the intensity of the class is too low for you.  I read an article on efitness about an aerobics instructor that taught 4-5 classes a day, 5-6 days a week and was overweight!! Her problem was that she was not working "in her zone" while she was instructing others, so she was not able to lose weight. It's all about keeping your heart rate at a certain level for a certain amount of time. I'm sure that Peter is much more informed regarding this than I am, maybe he can explain it better.  I do know that you have to maintain your individual level for at least 30 minutes per work out to show any results. Before you jump into seeking plastic surgery, check out every other available source. Then if you are still not happy, consult a board certified plasitc surgen in your area. 

P.S. Remember this...Your husband loves you for you, not your jean size! And although you don't feel fit and sexy right now, you're still a smart, loving, beautiful person who I am sure has got alot to offer both her hubby and daughters. Stay Strong!

Deb

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 Posted: 18 July 2005 03:11 pm
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:shock: 10,000 dollars!!!!  :shock: 6000 dollars!!!!!  Wholly!!!!   I just couldn't imagine paying that!  I have the hanging flab, and I think it is nasty, but my hubby says he loves all of me:heart:, but if we ever won the lottery, I'de be in for a serious tummy tuck...in a second!!!!!;)

#%@&!kidz, your 155???  Then your not fat!  MY goal is 150!!!  I wish I was 155!!

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 Posted: 28 September 2005 06:08 am
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In Canada we can pay for surgery in installments.  Just go to medicard.com and find out what your options are.  You can get a plan that is a small monthly amount.  Check it out.  You might be surprised.  I also find that the costs seem to be much higher in the U.S.  I too would do it again in a heartbeat.  Love it!  :)

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 Posted: 14 October 2005 11:20 pm
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pinkpopcorn wrote: In Canada we can pay for surgery in installments.  Just go to medicard.com and find out what your options are.  You can get a plan that is a small monthly amount.  Check it out.  You might be surprised.  I also find that the costs seem to be much higher in the U.S.  I too would do it again in a heartbeat.  Love it!  :)
I'm in Canada, and I have searched plastic sergeon websites and I have never seen monthly installments.  But I can't wait to log off here and check out the medicard.com!!!  Thanks!:heart: 

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 Posted: 14 November 2005 09:41 pm
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Omigosh -

Just reading this thread makes me feel faint.

I think even to consider this stuff requires bravery.

As to instalments, let's hope it's only the payments they mean - not the surgery!

BTW -  has anyone ever tried body brushing before they opted for more invasive treatment?   It's worked well for some people I worked with (but it does take time and patience).

NevD   :cool:

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 Posted: 8 January 2006 04:39 pm
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Liposuction is bad because it has many side effects, and only that -- your body shape will return , & when that happens it'll be so bad ..!

believe me is not a joke..!

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 Posted: 24 March 2006 01:04 am
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What is body brushing?

nevd
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 Posted: 24 March 2006 09:12 pm
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Using a medium stiff brush all over to stimulate circulation, tone skin and move fat cells around.

:cool:

aidra
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 Posted: 18 April 2007 03:51 am
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Some people's bodies collect fat in certain areas and it doesn't matter how fit they get/are, the fat pocket won't go away. Like, in my family saddlebags are dominate in the women, whether they're a size 6 or an 18 and I know even if I did get down to a size 4/6 I'll always have a pocket of fat on the sides of my thighs. I do plan on getting some lipo in my thighs when I reach my goal weight. Before I was even overweight I had saddlebags, so I know they'll always be there until I do something surgically to them.

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 Posted: 20 April 2007 07:15 am
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aidra,

That's what the tutorial Surgery as a Last Resort says about its correct purpose.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 6 May 2007 05:34 am
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Hi,

 Tummy tucks and liposuction are for people that really dont have the time to lose weight, but have the money to make it happen!I certainily wouldnt risk my health and life for that, of course, but people are free to do whatever theyd like, I suppose.:confused:

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 Posted: 7 May 2007 04:00 am
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fsahurie wrote: Hi,

 Tummy tucks and liposuction are for people that really dont have the time to lose weight, but have the money to make it happen!I certainily wouldnt risk my health and life for that, of course, but people are free to do whatever theyd like, I suppose.:confused:
That is a VERY narrow-minded view...did you not read the rest of the material in this thread, or even any of the info on this site about surgery?  For example, I started at over 300 pounds.  By the time I reach my goal weight, I will have a LOT of extra skin just hanging off my stomach--a lovely "apron," if you will.  Nothing but a tummy tuck (or even a lower body lift) will ever make it go away, even if I get my butt down to something super-tiny like 110 pounds (which would actually be UNDERweight for me, so it's not my goal--just as an example).

morbidlemon
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 Posted: 27 May 2007 01:52 am
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Fsahurie, I see your complete ignorance spreads over all topics :nono: This saddens me.

But on topic, reading this, despite all the positive experiences with it, I'm really glad to have caught my eating habits before I put on so much weight surgery was an inevitability. You're all so brave! I consider what you've done to be healthy and self-empowering, and it's clear you've made the right choice for yourselves as individuals, so I'll join you in ignoring the negative comments :grin:

Edit: Oops, I didn't see how old this thread was. Oh well. :cool:

Last edited on 27 May 2007 01:53 am by morbidlemon

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 Posted: 27 May 2007 04:39 am
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Fsahurie, I see your complete ignorance spreads over all topics :nono: This saddens me.

I was thinking the exact same thing.  It's endlessly tiring to keep reading this person's same narrow-minded views constantly.  To pop up on so many threads with an insult here and a cocky negative post there...this is getting utterly ridiculous. 

But anyway, I am in a situation like Jillybean mentioned.  I'm almost to goal (71.5 pounds down) and am unhappy with my sagging extra skin.  Unfortunately at my age (44) the skin has lost most of it's elasticity and weight training hasn't fixed my problem much either.  So I am all for tummy tucks, etc.  If I could afford it - that's a whole different issue!:tongue:

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 Posted: 17 August 2007 02:05 pm
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All these people are quite satisfied with the results!
plasticsergeant.com/home/body-procedures/liposuction
Liposuction is much better than being fat and doing nothing about it
I had three procedures done

--Edited to comply with Forum Posting Guidelines

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Peter
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 Posted: 20 August 2007 05:09 am
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AngelShell,

Oh my! Don't get me started on people that want to look attractive chewing huge wads of gum like cattle! :cow:



Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 21 August 2007 12:11 am
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You're so funny Peter!  Reading your post made me laugh!  I get quite irritated at my kids when they chomp too noisily on gum and lots of times I end up making them throw it away.  I just did that today with my 17 yr old son!  Geesh, he was chomping his gum like there was no tomorrow!:grin:

By the way, I know someone who had the lipo and tummy tuck, and they said the procedure was way worse than they expected, and then they gained all the weight back anyway. 

 I think it could be a reward for the person who has lost a lot of weight, to have that extra skin removed, but I do know some people who would have been better off proceeding with caution and being more realistic.

I'd also like to add, that we can't all afford to shell out money for expensive cosmetic surgeries to look perfect.  We should keep a few things in mind if we need to be practical. 

- We don't live forever.

- We can't stop the aging process.  Our skin is going to sag and get wrinkly all over our body.:wink:

-Sometimes being happy means being content with the way we have lived our life, not with our appearance.

- Age does come to everyone, regardless of how attractive one feels he or she is.

I guess what I'm trying to say is.  When it comes time that you know your life is coming to an end, will having cosmetic surgery have been something you really felt you were so glad you had done?

I guess if you have the money to spare, and like mentioned earlier, you have lost the weight and deserve the reward - great!  That would be an awesome reward. 

 But if the choice will put hardship on you because you can't afford it, perhaps it would be better to "count your blessings" and make a list of all the good things you have in your life, including both material things and relationships.:smile:

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Sassykat wrote: I'd also like to add, that we can't all afford to shell out money for expensive cosmetic surgeries to look perfect.  We should keep a few things in mind if we need to be practical. 


Not all abdominoplastys (I HATE the word tummytuck) are for "cosmetic" reasons.

It's a fact that a large amount of excessive skin in the lower abdomen (APRON) can create a harbor for bacteriological growth that can be LIFE THREATENING!  THis is especially true for people who have lost large amounts of weight and are very athletically active.

There are several medical conditions that can be caused by, or contributed to, by excessive skin:

  • Sleep disorder,
  • Sexual dysfunction,
  • Skin leisions,
  • Bacteriological infection.
  • PAIN,
It is important to talk with your physician, to determine if there is a medical reason to have this excess skin removed. In those cases this type of surgery is not only necessary for your health, but will be covered by insurance as well.

 

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 Posted: 5 January 2008 10:10 am
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Victor, I think sassykat was responding to this " Liposuction is much better than being fat and doing nothing about it
I had three procedures done" comment from someone else.  But what you say is really good and informative.  I live in Sweden, and will have to check (when the time comes) to see if we can have that done as a regular medical procedure (free) or something elective.

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For the best answer; you would need  to consult w/ your local plastic surgeon. All insurance companies have their own rules on whether it is medically necessary or something someone wants done(no medical reason why it needs to be done).    Hospitals and doctors have their own prices; what may cost one person $10,000 in one  part of the country, will cost different somewhere else.   I do know in my home state you need medical reason for insurance to cover it and for the patient to not pay out of pocket.   Hope this helps some. 

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I have lost 153 lbs through diet and exercise and had LOTS of hanging skin. I exercised and did not lose the weight extremely fast...1 1/2 years. I had a panniculectomy and it made such a difference. My skin has poor elasticity and there was no other option other than cosmetic surgery. For those who oppose plastic surgery and say that it is the lazy way out, come walk a mile in my shoes and then make that judgement :wink:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/txfarmgal36/beforeafterjodie1.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/txfarmgal36/beforeandafter.jpg

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 Posted: 17 February 2008 05:31 pm
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timeforachange,

I spent the first 50 years of my life in Southern California where everyone seems to be quite vain. After all, it is the home of Hollywood!

I grew up thinking all plastic surgery was ridiculous. Today, I still cringe when I see a 90 year old actor with the tight, unwrinkled face of a 20 year old. It just looks unnatural to me.

Then one day I heard Dr. Dean O'Dell, a doctor with a talk radio show, discussing the subject. He pretty much agreed with me, but laughed that if he ever has a "turkey neck," skin hanging on his neck looking ugly, he'd probably have the very simple operation to have it removed.

Ever since then that's been my attitude. It's not about trying to look like a movie star, or one-quarter your age. It's more like having an unsightly mole taken off your face.

I doubt I'd bother with such a thing, but I could possibly see myself have such skin removed from my neck someday. Or maybe if it started hanging over my eyes so I could hardly see.

I think your surgery is a parallel to this line of thinking and makes total sense. It's very different from something like a face lift to look younger, or having liposuction as a method of reducing weight.

Peter:monkey:

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Thanks Peter...and I totally agree...I personally would not have cosmetic surgery for vanity reasons but to each their own I guess. Abdominoplasty is not meant for weight loss. Matter of fact...most plastic surgeons will not perform one on a person who is not within 15% of their ideal body weight.

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 Posted: 26 February 2008 05:56 pm
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Victor version 4.0 wrote: Sassykat wrote: I'd also like to add, that we can't all afford to shell out money for expensive cosmetic surgeries to look perfect.  We should keep a few things in mind if we need to be practical. 


Not all abdominoplastys (I HATE the word tummytuck) are for "cosmetic" reasons.

It's a fact that a large amount of excessive skin in the lower abdomen (APRON) can create a harbor for bacteriological growth that can be LIFE THREATENING!  THis is especially true for people who have lost large amounts of weight and are very athletically active.

There are several medical conditions that can be caused by, or contributed to, by excessive skin:


  • Sleep disorder,
  • Sexual dysfunction,
  • Skin leisions,
  • Bacteriological infection.
  • PAIN,
It is important to talk with your physician, to determine if there is a medical reason to have this excess skin removed. In those cases this type of surgery is not only necessary for your health, but will be covered by insurance as well.

 
 

Somehow the entire winter passed without me being aware of all these posts!  Guess it's because I haven't been feeling well, didn't get notifications and didn't come here to check.

The post I made earlier - back in August it would appear, was based on my knowledge of a "tummy tuck and liposuction" which was that done on a friend of mine who had felt she wasted the money because she had problems from the surgery and then gained weight after it was done anyway.  She had it done for cosmetic reasons.  So my post was made from that perspective.  I now since have grown a bit wiser with my own health problems and would print a retraction if I could.:wink:

I do appreciate Victor sharing this information and enlightening me.  I'd also like to say that I try very hard not to stand in judgement of others.  I'm a fairly practical person when making decisions for myself, but I too am human and am vain when it comes to getting dressed to go out in public.  I try to look as nice as I can, and then I forget about it for most of the rest of the day.  My original point was suppose to be more of "beauty that comes from within is more important".  As I just want to encourage others to feel they have value no matter what.  We don't always have control over how we look.  That was really the main point I wanted to make.  I'm not the brightest crayon in the box however and lots of times things I want to say, just come out wrong.:smile:

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nevd wrote: Using a medium stiff brush all over to stimulate circulation, tone skin and move fat cells around.

:cool:

Did anyone get any information about body brushing?

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 Posted: 30 April 2008 05:16 pm
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Weightloser wrote: Did anyone get any information about body brushing?
Here's a whole topic on it:

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum6/693.html

Peter:monkey:


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