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travisb
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Posted: 30 April 2005 03:07 am |
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Please read, updated:
My mother in law had it and it probably saved her life. she lost 100 lbs. but then proceded to put 20 back on. After 3 years she now knows she has to be very careful what she eats or the surgery will have been a waste
Positive - weight loss, appitite control.
negative- limited food digestion (leads to severve digestive issues) problem with getting the nutrients. Rapid weight loss leaves lots of skin
I would reccomend that if you are interested to seek out a support group before and after surgery. You must be even more aware of what you eat afterwards because it is hard to get what your body needs in the limited quantities you can consume
UPDATE
My father had this surgery since I originally posted this. His went very poorly. They nicked his bowl and he nearly died. He has lost weight but it has cost him dearly. It has been 4 months and he can hardly walk around. I still think the surgery can work but be mindful of the statistics.
Last edited on 25 October 2005 03:30 am by travisb
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SLIMANDTRIMYATHINK?
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Posted: 15 May 2005 04:05 pm |
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| :( HAD IT DONE,,NOT ALL IT IS CRACKED UP TO BE,,,IT IS VERY SERIOUS SURGERY, AND THEY DON'T SPECIFY THAT ENOUGH! IT HAS BEEN 25 YEARS SINCE I HAVE HAD MINE AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL COMPLICATIONS AND SURGERIES SINCE, AND LET ME TELL YOU I THANK GOD I AM ALIVE TO SHARE IT WITH YOU,,,THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS,,,YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, IF IT IS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE,,IT IS!! SORRY BUT I AM LIVING PROOF AND NOW A PROUD MEMBER OF WEIGHT WATCHERS THE TRUE WAY OF EATING FOR A HAPPIER HEALTHEIR LIFE!! ITS ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR MOUTH, :P!
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Tommy9791
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Posted: 16 June 2005 01:58 am |
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| Not to be rude or anything, but I'd like to know how much you weigh and why you got to be so big.
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badyin
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Posted: 29 June 2005 03:40 pm |
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I was advised by my Doctor to consider this at the beginning of the year. I contacted a couple of hospitals here (the Netherlands) and was advised that they would only perform it on people under 140Kilos - which seems strange. As my weight was then nearly 180 kilos it was obvious something had to be done.
I started tracking my food and excercise patterns and have lost 18 kilos in 5 months.
I agree with the points made by previous posters and would like to add one from my own research. There is almost 7% chance that you will die, not from the surgery, but from complications arising from it. Most morbidly obese people suffer from other medical conditions, diabetes, heart and circulatory problems, and these are the real killers. Plus the fact that the surgery can be negated by bad eating habits after surgery as the pouch can be stretched.
I had tried for more than 20 years to lose weight and I am finally getting somewhere. Yes it requires will power and determination, but I am now seeing thr results - my weight is coming off, I am more active, my blood glucose level is much reduced, and most importantly, I have re-gained my self-esteem.
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MAMA BEAR
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Posted: 10 July 2005 01:56 am |
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:( I am sorry to have to but a damper on the subject but I have a good friend that had this done back in September last year :( so she had some many problems after the surgery & was in & out of the hospital for a long time ... she was married to a wonderful & very loving & devoted husband. Well, he kept in contact with me via the telephone and kept me updated on what was happening with her until one day in January he called to tell me that he  just could not take it any more & well folks she passed away so I am one person who is against this kind of surgery. I am sorry if I STEPPED on some TOES about this but I do miss my good friend & we were hoping to meet each other one day !! But I guess that meeting will take place in heaven one day !!
MAMA BEAR
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ALittleLessOfMe
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Posted: 11 July 2005 03:43 pm |
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I too am one against this surgery. My Mother had this surgery on December 3rd of 2002. On December 4th they had to go back in due to an error the first time. On December 7th she was back in the hospital in ICU with a staph infection. I last saw my Mother on December 10th, after traveling 8 hours to get there. She was in the ICU unit until January 16th, 2003...and then transferred to a Rehabilitation Facility. She was released from there on her 56th birthday (Feb. 4th, 2003). I was able to talk to her that evening for the first time since December 10th...she wanted me to make sure that all of my children and my husband knew how much she loved them. I assured her that we knew and would see her on the 14th of February.
We never saw her again...she passed away on February 11th...we buried her on February 14th.
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MAMA BEAR
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Posted: 11 July 2005 09:02 pm |
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ALittleLessOfMe ... Sorry to hear that about your MOM !! I am glad to see that someone else is against this sort of surgery besides me. I think that if a person wants to loose the weight ... that they need to try really hard to loose it on there own first and then if all else fails then ... think long & hard about having this sort of surgery done.
mama bear
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ALittleLessOfMe
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Posted: 11 July 2005 10:38 pm |
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| I agree on trying to lose it on your own first. And my Mother did for years...and she looked into the surgery for quite a while before having it. It's been about 2½ years since she passed away, and I still can't believe she is gone. She had just turned 56 a week prior to passing away. Life goes on, and we learn lessons...I learned to lose it on my own from this experience.
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chappelear4
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Posted: 21 July 2005 07:52 pm |
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I thought about the surgery, but the doctors I saw said that I would have to go on a LIFESTYLE change, learning how to eat the right foods for 6 months before they would perform the surgery. Heck, if I do that (I thought) why don't I just lose weight myself and say the heck with the surgery.
I am reading a book by Dr. Phil called "SELF MATTERS", and it points out some key things such as saying no to others and not to yourself, and saying yes to your needs first and foremost to regain self-esteem.
I am 29 weighing 256 lbs. Between childbirth, marriage and putting myself last I have gained over 100 lbs in almost 7 years. So far, in the last 2 weeks I have lost 8 lbs. I am exercising and eating better, not depriving myself of my occasional treat. I have little goals, like going from a current size 22 to a size 18....and I will keep trying to go a size smaller everytime I reach my current goal. I don't want to get discouraged, however, I do have a moderate back injury.
As for surgery, I think I will pass. I want to see my babies grow up. As for my weight? I cannot afford to have back surgery...it's too risky and there is no real proof it works. I need to work on me and put me first...and I am doing it!
Dawn
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Peter
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Posted: 22 July 2005 01:30 am |
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I agree about the lifestyle change.
When I did my research and wrote the FAQ on this subject, I wanted to present an open-minded viewpoint so I didn't express my thoughts about this point.
http://caloriesperhour.com/faqs_surgery.html
But everything written on the surgery says that after having it you will HAVE to change your diet radically. So as you say, what's the point of the surgery? Just do it in the first place.
I suppose the answer is that once you have the surgery you will be forced to eat differently or you will get sick. It's kinda like the drug alcoholics can take every morning... then if they drink that day it makes them nauseated.
Peter
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reinhard.weiss
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Posted: 26 July 2005 10:35 pm |
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While it is certainly crushing to hear the stories of the failed surgeries that resulted in the death of a loved one, there have also been stories that I have personally encountered of individuals with excellent success. As is the case with just about any type of major problem, the skills and experiences of the individual is the major factor in the likelihood of success.
I was a consultant for years, and during that time I was (and still am) marketing top grade nutritional supplements, so needless to say I was involved in many conversations about health, well-being and dieting. I encountered a particularly weird situation in Columbus, OH, where I worked on a floor where literally 4 people (out of about 10, all in the SAME AISLE) ALL had this surgery. :? To the best of my knowledge, all of these have been very successful, and the folks dropped literally a ton of weight :D (couldn't resist).
What I found particularly weird, however, was (what I think is) a ridiculous move on the part of the doctor to prescribe supplements in the form of pills to these people (my products are liquid based and isotonic, which IMHO is the perfect solution, pardon the pun, for this situation). Giving these patients a pill is as nuts as a dentist giving you corn-on-the-cob after yanking all your teeth ... particularly given that there is no research that I am aware of on how folks with this type of surgery are able to absorb anything, let alone pills (there are standards for dissolution of tablets called pharmacopia standards, but these are defined for a healthy digestive system). Throw in the fact that these are supplements (which are only controlled or regulated in an extremely limited way on a voluntary basis), and there was virtually no chance at all that these people were getting any benefit from those supplements.
About the dangers, anybody that has had a serious challenge to their digestion knows how fast things can go downhill when you cannot get the right mix of nutrients. Somebody in our church ended up in the ICU on life support for a few days over something like a stomach flu when her electrolytes got messed up. It is apparent to me that there are plenty of doctors out there who are willing to do this surgery without really knowing all of the life implications, and I believe you had better get that down FIRST before you get into trouble, and (as the stories described herein make clear) you had better rely on your own knowledge to put together all of the pieces to keep yourself healthy.
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fantasia31
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Posted: 8 October 2005 01:21 am |
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My mom had this surgery done. For her, it was successful. My major complaint is that she has been trying to push me to do the surgery.
Now I'm not advocating for or against surgery, but I told her that I am going to give myself a year to *start* seeing results by limiting my caloric intake before I even consider the surgery. I just felt it was too good to be true, and not what I am meant to do. It really alters the body. I am sure that there are people out there that do really need this, but it's not me. Frankly, it shocks me that my mom would want me to do something so risky, when it is clearly not the only alternative.
I am working hard at my diet and exercise plan, and although I am doing this for myself first, I do have to admit that I want to prove to my mom that it *can* be done without surgery. All it takes is the right attitude and determination. I have been doing this for a few weeks, and I am seeing results already.
Even if I am destined to be overweight, at least I'll be eating healthier and not putting myself at risk unnecessarily! What really matters is being healthy. I am going to try everything I can before I consider the other options.
Just my two cents!
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Youlka
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Posted: 28 June 2006 08:58 pm |
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| Oh! any surgery is scary.. to me at least, I`d rather go on diet pills than let myself to be cut again!
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tealady
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Posted: 10 November 2006 04:18 pm |
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Hi,
I just recently had the opportunity to speak to katie jay (nawls.com) She is suppose to be an expert on this type of surgery. She was happy she had it done and felt it was such a positive impact on her life. She will be in chat on weightlossbuddy.com on the 15th. I liked the chat system with experts because you can ask them questions in real time.
She had told me there are serveral standards that must be met before surgery is even considered. I believe some of them were you need to be at least 100lbs overweight. You also need to have some health risks due to your weight. Hmm I can't recall what else, right now. Anyway it was pretty interesting.
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Heavenseventeen
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Posted: 26 November 2006 10:54 pm |
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chappelear4 wrote: I thought about the surgery, but the doctors I saw said that I would have to go on a LIFESTYLE change, learning how to eat the right foods for 6 months before they would perform the surgery. Heck, if I do that (I thought) why don't I just lose weight myself and say the heck with the surgery.
Exactly. By that time you doing it with a 0% chance of dying (unless of course you do some crazy exercise like sky diving...
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darcpass
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Posted: 28 January 2007 12:18 pm |
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I had gastric bypass 11-3-05. I know several other people that have had it. Many of them think the lifestyle changes are very dificult. All of them would do it again in a heartbeat. For me I eat normal, just not nearly as much. I weighed 198lbs at the time of the surgery. My weight now is 106lbs. Before the surgery I had asthma, high blood pressure and joint issues. I feel so much better now.
I know there are people that have serious complications and even die due to the surgery, but I think the health of a person before the surgery has a lot to do with the outcome. At the hospital I had it done at I have seen them bring so many people in ambulances for appointments. When somebody is that unhealthy I am sure any procedure would be extremely dangerous.
My mother's friend had it done. Her doctor told her she wouldn't survive the surgery, but then again he didn't think she'd live out that year the way she was. She opted for the surgery and it is amazing the changes. It's been about 4 years now. She even went back to school and became a nurse.
Also I think the procedures done today are much safer than the ones done several years ago.
For me the surgery was truely an easy way out I suppose. I had never been overweight. But several rounds of steroids really caused my weight problems. I was so hungry all the time. And everytime I'd lose a little weight I'd gain back even more. In the end even getting ready for work was a major workout. I know it's a decision that should be well thought out and everybody should make on their own after talking with doctors.
Dawn
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weightlosssurgery
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Posted: 21 December 2009 09:53 am |
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m nt getting you please tell me clearly about weight loss surgeries.
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weightlosssurgery
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Posted: 21 December 2009 09:54 am |
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what is a gastric bypass surgery? How it effects?What after this surgery? IS it helpful and good for health?
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Pauline3
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Posted: 5 February 2010 03:51 pm |
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weightlosssurgery wrote: what is a gastric bypass surgery? How it effects?What after this surgery? IS it helpful and good for health?
This is quite a good brief guide to gastric bypass or gastric band surgery http://www.womenrepublic.co.uk/beauty/cosmetic/gastric_band.htm . My own view is that although I know surgery can really work for some people, I think a lot of people could try a little harder to lose weight before choosing to go under the knife. I'm 45lbs overweight and deep down I know I could lose the weight if I really, really tried. But I'm the first to admit how much it's all down to motivation with a little bit of greed and laziness thrown in. I eat too much and I don't exercise enough - and I think 99% of other overweight people are the same.
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