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Peter
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 Posted: 6 January 2008 02:01 am
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A number of times I've started posting what I was eating with the idea of accountability. I felt that if I were sharing with others, I would watch what I ate more carefully. But I would post and post and though I could see that other people had Viewed my posts, no one ever posted back and I still felt quite alone.

My foods are generally very healthy, except for the sweets. So to "go on a healthy diet" all I have to do is cut out the sweets.

Beginning Monday, January 7, I plan to post all the sweets I eat in this topic. Hopefully I won't be posting very often! Still, I'm looking for a volunteer to Watch this topic. It's easy... by clicking on Watch Topic they'll get an e-mail every time I post.

I'll think twice before I have a sweet because I'll know I have to account for it, and perhaps it will help my monitor just to know they're helping someone with an eating disorder.

My commitment is to continue this practice through the end of February, and also to remain active in the New Year, New YOU! Challenge through the same period.

So how about it? I just need one volunteer. I pay NOTHING, but the hours are good and you can quit whenever you want!

If you'd like to volunteer, please send me a PM.

Thank you,

Peter:monkey:

P.S.

Here I am in my "fat jeans" that I wrote about in the Eating Disorders forum, Does anyone else have a problem buying clothes for their heavier body?

I may not look "fat" to you, but it's all relative. My goal is to get back to my standard, which is that my chest stick out further than my stomach. Cutting way back on the sweets will do the trick!

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 Posted: 6 January 2008 02:08 pm
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Need a monitor?  WHAT?  Didn't I read somewhere a while back that you spit a single M&M out of your mouth?  Or was that someone else?  I'm pretty sure it was you because I remember being impressed with how much willpower that took!

Good luck in battling those sweets.  I still pass by my favorite restaurant that has the best sweet tea in the whole world and drool.  And I haven't had a drop of it since late July....so I know how it is.

DG

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 Posted: 6 January 2008 06:49 pm
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Yes DeterminedGal, that was the last time I was accounting for my sweets and I was eating some trail mix and didn't know it had M&Ms in it!

The problem's been that even when I'm accounting for my sweets in the forums, I can quit at any time. No one even notices.

That's why I want to try having someone else monitor me.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 6 January 2008 07:04 pm
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Yea! trimB PMed me and not only volunteered to monitor me, but wanted to join me! So we'll both be posting the sweets we eat and monitoring each other.

trimB, here's my plan and then you need to post yours. We can change them if we need to:

First and foremost, I'm going to post all the sweets I eat from January 7 through February 29. The point isn't to eat no sweets, but to keep them to a minimum.

I'll report everything, including syrup on waffles. And I don't fudge (excuse the pun!), a cinnamon roll is a sweet, not a breakfast food. Well, maybe both, but it's a sweet. I will also consider alcohol (read: strawberry margarita!) to be a sweet.

I usually have a bedtime snack, and often it's two pieces of wheat toast with a minimal amount of Promise and a reasonable amount of strawberry jam. As long as I stick to this formula, I won't report it. It's my treat for the day, along with my Diet Pepsi.

Unless I have company, it will also be my goal not to have any sweets in my home.

Well, that's my plan to get started. Oh, and if I'm just not reporting anything, that's good! I might easily go a week without any sweets at all.

Thanks so much for joining me trimB,

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 6 January 2008 11:54 pm
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Wow that was a great detailed committment, Peter!  I will try to be as detailed, but I might have to wait until the next post to fully flesh things out... I'm a little short on time at the moment.

I commit to reporting any "sweet" that passes my lips until the end of Feb.  This feels like quite a committment!  Anything sweet that is an empty calorie will be reported.  For example a bite of a cinnamon roll while at work but not a raisin (although I think raisins are sweet).

I started putting a tsp of sugar and a bit of soy milk in my coffee at the same time I switched to decaf several months ago.  I won't report this, because it's only once a day at the most.

My goal is mainly to become AWARE of all of the empty calories I am eating.  I honestly think once I am fully aware that I will naturally reduce them.  I think at first I will be reporting VERY often, but hopefully gradually less and less.

Okay we start tomorrow!!

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 Posted: 6 January 2008 11:58 pm
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I'm ready! Well, I will be tomorrow. :wink:

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 Posted: 7 January 2008 03:27 am
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Wow!  I'm jealous!  Sounds to me as though Peter and trimB have a great thing going.  I'm in the same boat as Peter.  People tell me I'm "not fat," but I know where the bones are buried (pun intended).  I have 10 or so pounds to get rid of and a lot of flab.  I know that cutting down (or out) on empty-calorie sweets would be all it takes to come up with the weight loss, and, more importantly, doing that would leave room in my calorie allotment for some of the more nutritious foods that I don't eat because they would be above what I burn up daily.  (Boy, how would you like to diagram that sentence!)

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 Posted: 7 January 2008 06:04 pm
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Lucky Me, be sure to check your private messages :wink:

Okay, so I am already here on the first day with a confession.  Sigh.  This will be the only one for the day though, I promise.  My temptations almost always occur at work in the mornings.

I was cutting up leftover cinnamon rolls in order to make bread pudding.  Oh those soft and gooey middle chunks get me every time.  Honestly this is going to be VERY tough!  Maybe I just can't do this task for a few days until I think I can control myself.  I ate several chunks... I think about 150 calories worth.  150 EMPTY WORTHLESS calories!

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 Posted: 7 January 2008 06:14 pm
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If you weren't accounting for your "sins" :wink:, it might have been 300 calories! Keep posting!

You know I pointed out that I have a lot of control. I'm mostly at home, and don't plan to keep sweets here. You should point out to everyone that you work in a bakery! :dizzy:

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 Posted: 8 January 2008 04:08 am
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Actually, my first report (for today) is to admit to a mixed bag.  I'll preface my confession by saying that I thought losing a few pounds by cutting out ALL sweets (or as close to all as possible) would be a piece of.......no, I can't use that one, can I?  What I discovered today was that in the face of consuming no sugar, the peanuts in my cupboard suddenly developed loud voices.

Well, my "sweets" record for today was: (1) 1/2 cup (and I measure it) of ice cream at about 9 pm.  This is a ritual--not the best idea, but as you said, Peter, about your toast/Promise/jam snack, a treat, and I look forward to it all day.

That was it for the sugar.  There's no (2) on this list.  There are cookies, cake and candy in my house, (not to mention the rest of the carton of ice cream), but none passed my lips today. HOWEVER, I'm going to have to control those pesky peanuts, or get rid of them altogether. 

TrimB, I think you did well to only have a few chunks of the cinnamon rolls.  With the job you have, you should get "hazard pay" for trying to do this.

Peter, congratulations, I gather you had a "zero" sugar day, with only the noted exceptions.  That's wonderful!


I think this is a great idea.  I passed up the cookies today just because I would have to "tell on myself."

Last edited on 8 January 2008 04:11 am by Lucky Me

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 Posted: 8 January 2008 05:06 am
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I would hate to tell you how much :cone: I had LAST night, but then we started today!

Peter:monkey:

P.S.

Actually, it was kinda funny. I was watching Forrest Gump and got a bowl of :cone: at the end. But I started to :crying: so much -- I always do in movies -- that it just sat there melting! Not that that stopped me from slurping it up! :pig:

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 Posted: 8 January 2008 11:54 am
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I would love to join you all, but sweets aren't my weekness....Now if I see a bag of tortilla chips and some salsa, look out!  And I tend to sometimes over eat at dinner time.  Daytime is a breeze, but late afternoon and night is my downfall....good luck with the sweet tooth!

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 Posted: 8 January 2008 04:51 pm
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Thanks!

You can post in Looking for a Diet Buddy for a chips buddy! :wink:

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 Posted: 8 January 2008 08:59 pm
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Confession time!  It doesn't feel as bad this time.  I ate part of the filling out of a small-ish piece of apple pie this morning.  Estimated 100 empty calories.

Yes, you guys are right that it seems extra difficult working with sweets in front of my face (just waiting to fall into my mouth!) every day.  BUT I know that every one has their own unique challenges, and it would feel just like making an excuse for my behaviors if I used my situation as a cop-out.

AND I have to say that I think I would have eaten more if you guys weren't around and keeping a close eye on me.  THANKS!

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 Posted: 9 January 2008 03:04 am
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Confession time?  I guess that would apply to my report for today also.  First of all, I only realized in rereading earlier posts that we were including alcohol as a sweet (well, Peter is, and I think it should be, too).  So my confession revolves around my 4 ounces of red wine yesterday.  This, like my 1/2 cup of ice cream at night, is part of my daily routine, and I won't report it everyday.

Outside of the "regular offenders," it was a pretty good day.  I could have done without the 1/2 oz. package of strawberry jam on my biscuit at breakfast.  However that meal came in the middle of a 35-mile bike ride, so I rationalized it.....rationalized it right onto my biscuit.  Besides, it was Smuckers, so it had to be good? :smile:

Have you found that consuming so much less sugar makes fruit taste marvelous?  Tangerines, apples......they've never been so good!

TrimB, you're making progress........100 calories is better than 150.  Once I wanted to work at a Baskin-Robbins, but I couldn't have handled it.  I'd have been waddling.  My hat's off to you.

Peter, another perfect day?

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 Posted: 9 January 2008 04:29 am
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Speaking of Baskin-Robbins, I walked by one today and none of it "fell into my mouth." :wink: But some thoughts fell into my head! Actually, thoughts of our working together, too!

Confessions? Remember we didn't say we wouldn't eat sweets. Just that we'd account for them to help keep them within reason.

Does eating fewer sweets make fruit taste sweeter? Are you kidding? I preach about that on this website. Raisins are my candy!

Years ago I would buy raisin bran, with all the sugar crystals coating the raisins. Then spoon on the sugar!

Now raisin bran alone tastes too sweet for me -- I make my own with bran flakes and raisins.

Keep up the accounting!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 9 January 2008 05:55 pm
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Lucky Me, I love your posts!  They always make me smile.  And you're right Peter... we didn't promise not to eat sweets, just to report when we do.  So in that sense, I think we are all on track, right?!

So here again - even better this morning at work.  Just one little chunk of coffee cake (that fell off as I was cutting it) went into my mouth.  Probably no more than 50 empty calories.
I stole a couple yummy roasted baby potatoes too, instead of something sweet I guess.  Not the most nutritious thing, but not technically a sweet... Progress!

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 Posted: 10 January 2008 03:19 am
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Thanks, trimB, I enjoy your messages, too.  As a matter of fact, I have this hilarious picture in mind of you going around with your mouth wide open, waiting to see what may fall into it!

I know, Peter, that I didn't promise to avoid consuming sugar, but thankfully, it is having that effect.  The grand total of Wednesday's sugar (if I can manage to keep my mouth shut until bedtime) is ONE Hershey's kiss (25 calories worth of nothing in the nutrition column, but such a nice taste in my mouth).

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 Posted: 10 January 2008 03:34 am
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No, I picture trimB working over her bakery goods with her mouth hanging open (and trying to avoid drooling on the them - pretty picture) hoping that gravity will be defied and the sweets will fly UP into her mouth!

Remember what you said about the peanuts? Yesterday I was working on a friend's PC and opened a can of trail mix. Very hard to limit how much was flying into MY mouth.

What I normally do, and did today with some salted almonds I got for Christmas, is put a quantity in a dish. Then that's the limit.

If you really limit sweets for a long time, I think you'll find that it's just not worth fussing about having one Kiss a day. You just won't want to bother. Or maybe not. We're all different.

I'm just so compulsive it's hard to have a little of anything, so it's usually easier to have none. But I want to have something sometimes, and that's why I'm posting here!

Later,

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 10 January 2008 06:31 pm
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TOO funny!  It's more like me looking frantically side to side, with only naughty things all around.  Let down my guard for two seconds and my hand just reaches out and takes a nibble!

Today's casualty was a nub off the side of a low fat blueberry muffin.  Right out of the oven, warm and soft.  A 50 or so calorie penalty that I will take!

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 Posted: 10 January 2008 06:36 pm
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trimB,

Have you thought of allowing a bakery snack every day? Something small, of course?

I'm wondering if then it couldn't be more fun... picking it out each day. Rather than what would be torture for me... being surrounded by all that without a drop to (legally) eat!

Speaking us such things, after being up to 2 am the night before working on the challenge, I was so tired last night that I went right from my PC to bed... skipped my jam toast snack. And not, I can't double it today!

Speaking of the challenge:





Also, here's a Christmastime pic!



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 Posted: 11 January 2008 04:35 am
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Great picture, Peter.  Did I count 1 boy and 6 girls?  You may be in big trouble in a few years, Grampa.

While I'm still not volunteering to get weighed in the altogether at Walmart, I don't see anything wrong with one Kiss!  --  Double entendre?  Guilty!

trimB, I think Peter's idea is excellent.  You could just allow yourself "X" number of calories each day as a treat, and not report it.  That's what I do with my 4 ounces of wine and 1/2 cup of ice cream.  Then you wouldn't have to feel guilty about it.......which for me is the kiss (there's that word again) of death.

Okay, so much for lightheartedness.  I'm thinking about hara-kiri.  Well, it's not quite that bad, and besides I'd have to go sharpen a knife, and right now I don't even have the energy for that.  This has not been a good day.  I had an extremely stressful situation this morning, but got through it just fine.  You'd think all would have been well, but no........emotional eating followed the stress.  It's as you said, Peter, sometimes the compulsion just takes over.  Three candy bars @190 calories each (oh, that'll help me lose weight), and a bunch of other junk that wasn't sugar, but still not on anyone's "legal" list.  

I hope tomorrow will be a better day. 

(signed)   Not Lucky

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 Posted: 11 January 2008 05:06 am
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I didn't have such a bad day, but it was interesting. I enjoyed a thunderstorm around noon, only to hear on the radio on my way to the gym that it was actually a tornado!

We like NEVER have those here in Vancouver, WA, just north of Portland, OR. Last was in 1972.

No one was hurt, but countless homes are without shingles. It was an F1... if roofs came off it would have been an F2.

If I had gone to the gym earlier (I struggle to get away from the PC and to the gym before the evening rush each day) it would have been closed. It wasn't damaged, but a car in a parking lot a block behind it ended up in a tree! Partly up in one, anyway.

Well, I ordered two boxes of Girl Scout cookies today! Which reminds me, I have to update the Food Calculator with the new cookies for this year. I'm not sure I'll ever see them as she lives in Sacramento, CA. But when I came home to a sweet six year old Girls Scout's recording on my answering machine, I had no choice!

I told her to tell her mom it was a dirty trick!

Going to update the challenge stats now then finish the news with my toast and jam.

Night night!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 11 January 2008 06:52 pm
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Oh I did NOT do well this morning AT ALL.  I felt really entitled to eat whatever I wanted... which was apparently half of a sticky bun.  Full of butter and honey and pecans and raisins.  Half was probably 200 calories.  Then a "shoulder" from a muffin and a cube of cinnamon roll - probably 100 calories.  Then I had a half of a pump of caramel sauce in my coffee, another 50 or so.  WHY??  That's 350 calories of junk.  Well that's why I'm here I guess.

I was thinking of your suggestion, peter.  And when I looked around at all the temptation - I saw possibilities instead of "off limits".  Maybe I'll try again at some point... I don't want to blame the incident on this experiment.  But it wasn't pretty, that's for sure!

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 Posted: 11 January 2008 07:07 pm
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Thanks for the report! At least you're very conscious of what your're eating.

Do you have a digital camera? It would be so much fun to see where you work!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 12 January 2008 01:27 am
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Hi Guys, 

I'm sorry, trimB, maybe my lousy day yesterday was infectious!  :smile:  Today was better, only a couple of store-bought chocolate chip cookies while I volunteered at Hospice this afternoon.  Yesterday reminded me of how much depression really hurts.  I hadn't felt that for a while, but yesterday the feeling was back......like gangbusters.  It just takes over; I can't feel good feelings, can't think good thoughts, can only think about what I want to eat next.  At times like that, I think I will never be free of the compulsion........and I probably won't, but I know it can be in check. 

Fortunately, things usually look brighter in the morning, and the memory of the day before always helps to stiffen my resolve.........for a while anyhow.

Wow! Peter, that tornado was quite an experience.  My son lives in Oklahoma (in Tornado Alley) and I've been there shortly after big-time devastation.  It's so sad to see places where people have lost everything.  Glad you were okay.

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 Posted: 12 January 2008 03:38 am
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trimB, do you know the source of your avatar? I'd love to make it a little more legible. No, this stuff isn't important. But that's why it's fun for me.

Lucky Me, if it's not too personal, can you tell us why your are depressed?

Thanks for sharing,

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 12 January 2008 02:30 pm
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My avatar is home-made.  Kind of a long story.  My friend teaches art at a community college and for a class project they designed a company logo... we made up the ficticious company "Sugar Baby Bakery" and that is the logo that won the contest.  (Someday in about 20 years maybe there will be a real live Sugar Baby Bakery!)  I guess I can work on it some more to get it looking better.

On a positive note, it is now 10:30 am and I have had no sweets.  Mostly because I didn't work this morning.  And I love the idea to bring my camera into work and take a few pictures!!  Give me a few more days to make it happen...

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 Posted: 12 January 2008 04:53 pm
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On the About Us page which tells a tiny bit about me, I used to have a link to My Story, which told the history of my eating disorder. I deleted it when I sold cph because I thought it was too personal.

But I've had a number of requests for it, so I put it back at the top of the forum on Eating Disorders.

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 Posted: 13 January 2008 03:54 am
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Peter, I will answer the question you asked when I can, but not tonight.  I appreciate your asking, and I do want to share, but.......  You were brave to write and post your story.  I was intrigued by it when you gave me the link last week.  On so much of it, I could have just signed my name.  It's encouraging to know that someone with the same problems has ended up so well.  (Oh oh, that sentence didn't work quite right........at least the "ended up" part, but you get the idea.)

Today has been wonderful for me.  I have Zero Sugar to report! There was a high-class professional tennis tournament near where I live in Florida.  Some of the players were in the top 200 in the world.  Not quite Federer or Henin, but VERY good - people who play full time, make their living playing tennis, and who were from all over the world.  I think I heard cuss words in Russian, Italian, Spanish, and whatever they speak in Slovakia.  Sadly, not too many players were from the USA.

I spent most of the day there and enjoyed it so much that I seldom thought about food.  Around 1:30 pm, a group of friends and I were engrossed in an exceptional match.  I passed around my box of Tic-Tac's and asked if anyone wanted to "share my lunch."  Not too high on the healthy-eating scale, but good for Monday's weigh-in.

It will be fun to see pictures, trimB. 

Now I'm going happily to bed.

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 Posted: 13 January 2008 04:09 am
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You mean we can have fun without sugar? :wink:

Good job!

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 Posted: 14 January 2008 04:11 am
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Yes, we can!  Sometimes I forget that.  This was a good day.........100 calories of dark chocolate..........that's it!

trimB, doing ok?    Peter, do you never fall off the wagon.........into the sugar bowl?  You're making my brown eyes blue..........or is it green?

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 Posted: 14 January 2008 04:34 am
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Do I ever fall off the wagon? That's why I wanted you guys monitoring me! :chewing:

Will I with monitors? Well, first of all remember we can eat sweets. We just have to report them. And I think with you guys watching I'll be able to keep them within reason.

If I really fall off the wagon, I promise to be honest and tell you I'm quiting. I won't pretend I have to stop for some untrue reason.

I don't have any sweets in my home, so I can't slip without a trip to the store. That helps a little. trimB can't say that about "the office"!

Lucky Me, can I add your city to your profile? Or Smalltown if you want it to be private?

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 14 January 2008 05:20 pm
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Weekend was so busy!  But now I'm back... with a little to report but not too bad.
Saturday I was catering a baby shower for a friend, so I was running around all day.  I stole one sugar cookie, which was basically my lunch.

NOTHING on Sunday, woooo!  Although it was NOT a great day overall, no sweets were consumed.

This morning I had a couple teeny nibbles of cinnamon roll scraps - 50ish calories.  That's more like it.  I'm glad my mini-binge happened on Friday because I was able to get it out of my system before going back to work today.

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 Posted: 15 January 2008 01:52 am
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Hi Guys,

trimB, your avatar looks wonderful.  How did you get it so much better?  I got a magnifying glass out one day to read the "Sugar Baby," but now it looks great. 

Peter, "Smalltown" will be fine (because it is).  This has been a good day.  I'm reporting one square of very dark chocolate (Hershey's Cacao Reserve, 36 calories).  That's it.....of course I'm not in bed yet (duh!), but I'm feeling happy, and that's usually a sign that I'm in control, not the monkey.  I managed to lose a pound this week, even with one totally out-of-control binge day.

Concerning food, do you think that people with compulsive-addictive personalities ever get cured, or it's always an AA type of thing, as in recovering?  I would like to feel that a day like today was just a normal day, not a good day.  I thank God that my addiction has never been drugs or alcohol, but as I look back, it's always been something.

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 Posted: 15 January 2008 04:09 am
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Hey, watch how you talk about monkeys!

I think it's like AA at least in the sense that we will never look at food quite the same as a normal person. BUT... if we get it under control, we'll be WAY ahead of the normal, overweight, inactive American!

Keep your chin up!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 15 January 2008 05:25 pm
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I tend to agree with Peter.  I can't reasonably control my food without thinking about it quite alot.  It's taken me some time to admit that and be okay with it.

Today's sin was a big bite of chocolate cake - before I threw it away (was getting a little old) and a peppermint stick.  The peppermint just made me want hot chocolate with peppermint schnapps in it... it's cold here!

Here's the first of two pictures - the dreaded breakfast pastries!

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 Posted: 15 January 2008 05:26 pm
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And the dessert display case, which often sees me nibbling on whatever is about to get thrown away...

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 Posted: 15 January 2008 06:07 pm
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Oh my.

We can eat what we want, we just have to post it. So send me the cake and two cinnamon rolls. FedEx.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 16 January 2008 03:57 am
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Me, too........with gobs of frosting, please.  I just have one question:  Could I have the address of where you "throw it"?  I'd weigh 400 if I had to be around that stuff all day!  Actually, I'm jealous of Peter because I do not have the option of getting all such things out of the house. 

Even as I say that, though, I'm remembering years ago (many) when I might have gotten up, dressed, and chugged off to the 7-11 at 3:00 am if I wanted and didn't have a cigarette.  But, you know what, I am now a perfectly "normal" person in regard to cigarettes......never have a desire for one.  Perhaps that's advantage of an addiction to something that you can cut out completely.  Maybe I should try that with food.  :grin:

Peter, you are an encourager.  Thank you for the message you wrote earlier today.  My monkey is the one that is frequently on my back.  If I ever convince him to l-o-v-e vegetables, instead of pie, cake, cookies, ice cream, and everything chocolate, we'll get along just fine.  Do you have a different reason for the monkey ID? 

All I have to report today is a momentary lapse -- two kisses (50 calories).  It was a happy day.  

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 Posted: 16 January 2008 06:39 am
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I have 12 monkeys, and they all have names. My younger grandchildren can actually see them! But all my grandchildren love my stories.

Okay, I'm bragging here, but I have the ability to make up the most fun stories on the fly. Like about the time they all got up early in the morning to help out trimB in her bakery. Oh my, what a mess! The good news is that trimB was so busy cleaning up after them that she didn't have time to snack on a crumb. Not a crumb!

I went to the bakery section of my market today to get my healthy bread, and came pretty close to the cinnamon rolls. There are a morning staple when I'm not eating well. I have my habits, good and bad.

I have it easy living alone and controlling all the food in the house, but before I sold cph I spent untold hours in supermarkets gathering nutrition data for the food calculator. I entered all the data for the first 24,000 items all by myself, before I got some help.

So I was around food all the time. It's all about where your mind is.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 16 January 2008 06:52 am
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Just after posting the above, I posted in this topic:

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum26/4626.html

It's not the reason I chose to put a monkey by my name, but it's worked out nice!

As my monkey always says... hang in there!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 16 January 2008 05:25 pm
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That sounds like a great story Peter!  Maybe it influenced me a bit because I didn't snack on any crumbs while working this morning.  I had 1/3 of a croissant at home... I guess not technically sweet but seems really JUNKY to me.

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 Posted: 17 January 2008 05:30 am
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Two lovely pieces of my favorite dark chocolate (72 calories).  That doesn't bother me, though, when I know I've worked it off during the day, as in 13 miles on the bicycle and 3 sets of doubles tonight.

Peter wrote:
before I sold cph I spent untold hours in supermarkets gathering nutrition data for the food calculator. I entered all the data for the first 24,000 items all by myself, before I got some help.
I bet most of us who enjoy this site so much have no idea about how much effort went into creating it.  Thank you..........and I guess I figured out how to use the quotation marks in the "reply" box.  Took a while; not too swift, uh?  Well, what can you expect from somebody who lives in Flori-duh!  Of course I could tell you where it is on the map :grin: if you're still wanting to further your education 

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 Posted: 17 January 2008 05:35 pm
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Funny enough, I moved from Portland, Oregon to Jacksonville, Florida in 2003.  So I guess I have been former neighbors to both of you!  :smile:

Anyway, I am pretty sad today.  I did so good at work this morning... half of a pump of caramel in my coffee (50 calories).  That's it.

Then lunch hit.  I was feeding Theo and watching my hubby scarf something on his way out the door to work.  One of his leftover doughnuts was sitting in front of me.  I was so hungry, but unable to go get myself something at that moment.  So yep you guessed it, I ate the doughnut.  First just one bite to stop my hunger until I could rightfully address it.  Then another, then another, and then "oh well I might as well finish it".  I know it's not the end of the world, but still a little disappointing how it happened.  Could I not have waited 10 more minutes??!?

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 Posted: 17 January 2008 05:50 pm
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I hope you gals don't mind if I talk about my weight loss, even though I was the one that got the idea to help each other only monitor sweets. Just need to vent.

It's the same tired old story, nothing new. I made big changes to my diet for the challenge, giving up sweets. I jumped from 192 to 189, but have now been around 190. This always happens.

It feels like I've made such drastic changes, but not really.

I do best making changes slowly -- except that then I get frustrated with the slow results and need to vent.

I'm having bran flakes and raisins and skim milk for breakfast, and my jam toast and milk for a bedtime snack. These are examples of things I will eventually change. In fact, when my box of bran flakes runs out, it's back to oatmeal made with raisins, water, and a spoonful of ground flax seed on top. My microwave broke so that's one reason I'm procrastinating getting back to the oatmeal. I'll have to boil it on the stove.

Yesterday I accidentally found (no foolin'!) the remains of a jar of peanut butter that my roommate left when he move out in December. So I had a peanut butter and jam sandwich for lunch, with milk of course! There's enough peanut butter to do that again a few more times. I love them, but normally only have them with my grandkids when I visit.

BTW, it's healthy bread, and peanut butter isn't bad, just high in calories. But it won't help me with the challenge!

I'll keep making adjustments. I know I'm actually losing fat because it goes first from my face and I'm already looking hollow in my cheeks. Part of the problem is that I'm working out again, and I build muscle really quickly. So that helps explain the lack of weight loss.

Lastly, last night I ate so late that when I shut this off at midnight I didn't even feel like my toast snack, so I had an apple instead!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 18 January 2008 06:06 am
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Let's outlaw every January 17th from now on.  It didn't seem as though either one of you was very happy with your day........and I'm miserable with mine.  Like you, trimB, my day started out wonderfully.  I ate healthy food, not too much of it, and got a good bit of exercise.  Then came tonight.  Perhaps Rome wasn't built in a day, but sometimes is seems as though it can be torn down in one!  I guess it started with that square of chocolate.  Then it's, "just one more wouldn't hurt." And pretty soon it's everything in sight.  When the compulsion takes over, I can even eat things I don't much like.

I feel for you, trimB.  You said, "Couldn I not have waited 10 more minutes?"  I identify with that.  Why, why do I do the very thing I do not want to do?  It's been this way for so long that it's very easy to want to just give up.  Well, tomorrow will be better; it always is.  The problem is knowing that I am always an inch, a minute, or a square of chocolate away from a binge.  I could give up food completely and have 40 marvelous days.  40?  Well I think that's about what the Irish hungerstrikers lasted.  TrimB, you are probably too young to remember that.  Peter?

Venting here is fine with me; goodness knows I do enough of it.  Actually I've shared more with you two than I ever have with anybody.  I hear your disappointment that you're not losing faster.  I could tell you that you don't look heavy, but I don't like it when people say that to me.  I know what I want to be.  Sometimes I wonder.......are our expectations and desires realistic? 

Your breakfast menu?  It's a weird coincidence; I have oatmeal, raisins, and a dab of flaxseed for breakfast everyday, plus half an orange and a bunch of vitamins.  I use old-fashioned oats, cook up a good-sized pan of it, put it in the refrigerator, and then zap some of it each morning.  Knock on wood - my microwave works.  We could take up a collection for you to have a new one, Peter.  After all we owe you!

 

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 Posted: 18 January 2008 06:24 am
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To young to remember? I'm too old to remember much of anything anymore! :wink:

I got really distracted today. When I got home from the gym I... well, the end of the long story is that I might be getting a Miniature Schnauzer puppy this weekend! I have no supplies, so I've been planning and posting in MS forums all evening. Nice to have your mind on something else! (You can't eat MSs!)

I helped my roommate get one just over a year ago, and we raised it together. Here he is beside me where he spent his days with my while I worked on cph:

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum45/2812.html

Excuse the mess, but I only put the quilt on the bed when company comes (and the dog isn't on it).

So it's coming on midnight and I still have to make the second half of my dinner. I managed a huge bowl of boiled corn earlier.

May the 18th be a better day for all!

Oh, and trimB, think of me when you get to work. I'll be sound asleep! Oh, that wasn't nice. Well, you're sound asleep now.

Night night!

Peter:monkey:

P.S.

I know I don't write much about sweets, and I haven't had any since we started tracking them together. But don't thinks I don't need you gals. You're the reason I'm doing so well!

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 Posted: 18 January 2008 07:07 am
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hey guys.
um, is it too late to join?  i have been wanting to join for a while, but i didn't want to invade.  sweets have been "kind of" (waaayyy understated!) a problem for me....  lately, i have even been in the mind set that i am looking for sweets... like i am completely consciouce of what they will do to me, and i think it through before i go for it, then i do, and i only slightly regret it later.... but it's a bad thing to get into. it can quite esily snowball.   i can't get there again.  i even actually bought chocolate about a week ago.  i had to throw out a big bag of m&ms given as a gift because i just gave up on caring about it and was snaking on them all of the time....  i really can't