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Peter
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 Posted: 18 January 2008 05:48 pm
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Yes, as trimB says, the point of this is not to obstain but only to monitor our sweets and be accountable to each other and report what we do eat.

I think it would be great to have Zen join us if Lucy Me agrees. I don't mean to send a mixed message, but as you know the Diet Buddies forum is brand new and I'm still working it out.

Thing is, I want to be able to follow all of our posts. And if there are too many of us, it will take too much time. So I think we should stop at four.

I would say to anyone else reading this, feel free to start your own sweets group. Or maybe it's such a good idea that it should become a challenge? No, I don't think that would work. We don't just want to post lists, we want to discuss the matter. Small groups will be better.

Lucky Me, let us know what you think and don't feel bad about it if you'd like to keep the group to three.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 18 January 2008 07:52 pm
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Peter, I think you hit the nail on the head about why I am enjoying this group so much.  It is not so big that I can barely keep up with all the posts, but it is definitely bigger than my diary (which mainly involves just me & occasional visitors).  Plus I've gotten to know both Peter and Lucky Me a little better.

So what a great idea Peter! 

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 Posted: 19 January 2008 04:25 am
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you know, maybe it would be best if i started another group.  i think i will, and besides, i plan on strating up a chalange in the very near future and i don't want to take on too much at once.  but i will be mindful a post any sweets in my diary! (lol- i can't even remember if i had syrup this morning!  :dizzy:)

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 Posted: 19 January 2008 04:33 am
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Hi all, I think it would be okay if Zen wants to join us.  How could I say "no"?  After all, Peter and S.... (oops, did I ever tell you that I call you Sugar Baby in my mind?) trimB allowed me to join them.  I do agree, though, that four is probably all I could handle as far as reading and responding to posts.  It's been great fun and a wonderful support.  I feel that we've become friends.

TrimB, I already felt for you because of the time you spend with all those goodies.  Now you tell me that you have to get up at 3:00 am?  That's too much!

Peter, you sounded (did you know that words on a monitor can "sound"?) so excited about the puppy.  I hope it works out.  You have done so well at avoiding the sweets.  

Today has been super.  The demons have been on holiday, I guess.  One Hershey's Kiss -- that's it.  I needed a good day; Monday's weigh-in is coming up quickly.

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 Posted: 20 January 2008 05:19 am
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Peter, I read a post you wrote, saying that you did not get the puppy.  What happened?  Maybe there's another one around the corner that is meant for you.

I read in Zen's diary that she's going to begin an "out with bad habits" (or something like that) thread.  Sounds interesting; I have some I could contribute. 

Today I couldn't resist trying one of the cinnamon streusel muffins I made.  I'm afraid I had not much of a calorie deficit today (darn those peanuts), but I'm still hoping to be minus a pound on Monday.

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 Posted: 21 January 2008 03:37 am
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The puppies weren't quite right, so I decided to pass. I'm visiting a breeder Tuesday who may be able to tell me of others. Actually she has one, but it's on the small side and I don't want to look like I have a toy dog. Also it's all black... not sure about that. It would be beautiful, but to me a Miniature Schnauzer is what they call Salt & Pepper.

Food's been fine. Challenge weigh-in tomorrow morning.

Next Monday I'm having a colonoscopy -- we don't need to discuss the details :shock: -- but I have to eat NO fiber for two days, then only liquids for one day, then REALLY clean myself out before Monday morning. So my next challenge weigh-in will be so unreal I think I'll just skip it.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 21 January 2008 04:09 am
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A colonoscopy?  Oh that's fun!  Does a person still have to drink a gallon of seawater?  I did for my first one, but for the second one, I remarked to the pharmacist that that concoction tasted vile.  Big mistake!  He assured me it would be lots better if he added cherry flavoring.  Voila......for two years (or thereabouts) I couldn't stand anything that even remotely tasted like cherries!  Good luck, Peter.  Hey, I just had a great idea:  The next time I have to do that routine, I'll ask for chocolate flavoring.  Then I'll get really thin, since most of my sugar comes coated in chocolate.

It was a good day - one large chocolate chip cookie to report.  Yes, tomorrow is weigh-in day.  It's hard to type with your fingers crossed!

Here's to the right puppy showing up soon.  I hope trimB isn't working too hard.  She has a rough schedule.

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 Posted: 21 January 2008 04:13 pm
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It varies daily but I'm at my lowest weight since I started the challenge and I'm posting it in the challenge even if it might be up a little tomorrow.





I've been thinking that this sweets monitoring might have actually distracted me a little. I mean, instead of thinking a lot about low fat and such, I'm just concentrating on not eating sweets. Well, I won't change anything for the next few days. Then I have my special diet before the procedure. Then I'll get more serious.

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 Posted: 21 January 2008 06:08 pm
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You guys are great!  Worrying about me working too hard?!?  Well I guess I have wierd hours, but I won't complain about having Saturday and Sunday off work.  It's pretty rare in the field I'm in!

Anyway, I have good news and bad news.  I have no sweets to report for Saturday and for today (Monday).  But Sunday is another story.  We went out to eat at an Italian restaurant using a gift certificate we got over the holidays.  The portions were HUGE but I really saved myself for dessert (it was a set 3 course meal).  Then I went crazy.  A big portion of tiramisu (although it was a light textured version) and a giant ice cream filled profiterole.

I do feel like it's out of my system for a while now though.  Was not even tempted this morning at work!

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 Posted: 22 January 2008 05:37 am
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TrimB, I saw your post in Zen's new challenge.  I was tempted to challenge myself to get to bed by midnight.  However..........look at the time now.  That would be a REAL challenge for me, although I know I'd be better off for it. 

I have NO sweets to report today.  This week was a good weight loss, but could be due to my "iffy" scale.  I had a few good days; it could be correct, but either way, it made me feel super all day.

Congratulations, Peter, any week we go down instead of up is great!  Yes?

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 Posted: 22 January 2008 02:46 pm
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Hi LuckyMe!  About your being hestitant to challenge yourself to get to bed by midnight... could you start out with 12:30 or 1am?  Then after you get that far, push it back even farther?  BABY steps are good!
Actually my overall goal is not to eat before 5:30 am or maybe even 6am.  But I decided to start with 5am goal, and slowly work my way later.

So this morning I had half of a small biscotti.  50 calories tops.  Felt very in control, and I think it's related to my new self-challenge.  Thanks to Zen for the idea!

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 Posted: 23 January 2008 05:34 pm
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Still on a roll with more self-control than I've had in quite a while.  It feels great!
This morning I had several of these little teddy grahams.  Someone had brought them in from their home, and they were so cute little things.  100 calories tops.

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 Posted: 23 January 2008 07:05 pm
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Seems that more than the three of us are "monitoring our sweets." At the time I'm posting this our topic has been viewed over 1000 times!

My weight usually fluctuates but it's been 188.5 for three days now so I doubt the next number will be up. That's good.

Yesterday I was traveling out in the country looking for a puppy with my sister-in-law (ex really as I'm divorced but we're all family) and stopped at an upscale local hamburger chain so she could get a snack, shake and fries. I didn't even consider it.

But later I was thinking that I go to such extremes, then eventually crack. So don't you guys feel bad if you're less than perfect about not eating sweets. There's something between being bad and being perfect, and it's called excellence!

Just keep posting what you eat! :wink:

Still looking for a puppy. I won't give you the daily updates but will let you know when I know more.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 24 January 2008 05:31 am
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Hi T & P,  I didn't write yesterday because it just got too darn late.  Tuesday was a good day, as far a sweets are concerned--only one 50-calorie piece of chocolate, in addition to my usual half-cup ice cream treat. 

Today (well, Wednesday) was really good until about 11:30 (which is when I should have been in bed).  However, the sugar demons got to me then to the tune of four (repeat FOUR) chocolate chip cookies.  They are homemade, delicious, and I shudder to think of how many calories!  Oh well, the best laid plans........etc.

TrimB, I think you had a good idea about the getting-to-the-bed-on-time challenge.  Hmmmm......sounds like a song.  Oh, that was the "church."  I'll feel kind of silly, saying that my challenge is to turn in by 1:30 AM, but since it's so often after 2:00.......well, maybe 1:30 would be a little improvement.  I'll give it a try

Here's a question for both of you:  Do you ever eat when you know you are not hungry?  Do you know what it feels like to actually be hungry?  Perhaps this is just my night for saying stupid stuff, but I don't really know what it feels like to be hungry.  I just eat because I want to eat!

If there are that many people reading our posts, they'll probably quit after this one!  I may be suffering from a chocolate-chip-cookie high. :smile:

I love that line, Peter, about excellence being some point between bad and perfect.  I think all three of us get an "A" for effort.........and results?  Well, I suspect we might all look out of place at my favorite buffet restaurant.

More than enough rambling for one day.  Nite all.

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 Posted: 24 January 2008 06:25 pm
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Lucky Me wrote: Here's a question for both of you:  Do you ever eat when you know you are not hungry?  Do you know what it feels like to actually be hungry?  Perhaps this is just my night for saying stupid stuff, but I don't really know what it feels like to be hungry.  I just eat because I want to eat!

I don't talk about this much in the forums because most people would just shake their heads. Say what?

But I feel hungry about two or three times a year. When I do, it's such an odd feeling that I really take notice of it. For example, when my kids are in town we might have had plans to go to our Saturday morning market around 10 am. So I'll just have my morning OJ before we go, as we always eat there.

But things will get delayed, and we'll end up leaving around 1 pm. All morning long I won't think about food because I don't feel hungry. But when we get there, I might smell something good and actually feel it!

Like I say, just a couple times a year.

The rest of the year, I live as I am as I type this. I had my OJ when I got up, now a Diet Pepsi, and I'll eat my cereal before I go to the gym... about noon or later if I get busy.

To be sure, this is horrible for my health. I should eat a breakfast in the morning, and lunch before I go to the gym. There's a lot of discussion about starvation mode in the forums -- slowing down your metabolism -- and that has to be the case with me. I ate way too little yesterday.

So while most everyone in these forums thinks it would be great to not be hungry all the time, it's not all good.

The rest of the time, when I'm not eating well, the story is so different! By now I would have had two huge cinnamon rolls and milk. I could eat all day and hunger has nothing to do with it.

I learned years ago that it's not the food itself that gives a person release from their problems... escape from the real world... as alcohol gives you. It's the very act of giving up on your diet... running away from good behavior... escaping the world.

I know it's not the food itself because I have observed time and time again over the years that the MOMENT I decide to binge all my troubles are gone!

I could be depressed, sitting in a business meeting which I can't leave for another hour. Doesn't matter... the MOMENT I decide I'm going to give up again and binge all my problems are gone.

Of course they are still there when I get back to them, but I wouldn't know it when I'm bingeing because all that matters is the food.

So yes, I'd say I sometimes eat when I'm not hungry! :wink:

Thankfully the days of horrible bingeing are behind me, but I will probably always struggle to eat well.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 24 January 2008 06:38 pm
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Hey, Ya'll........just stopping by to give you 2 thumbs up! :thumbsup::thumbsup: Quitting sugar is NOT easy, especially with a pastry chef around showing pictures of all the yummies you can't have! LOL!!

Good luck to all!

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 Posted: 24 January 2008 07:23 pm
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Thanks Jonibug!  Although none of us is actually trying to give up sugar - just to be more aware of it and monitor & report when we do have.

So the past few mornings I have been SO hungry.  I've kept to my word of not eating before 5am, and it is helping ALOT.  I didn't realize how mindless I was about munching at that time of day.  Anyway, this morning I had several little bites of cinnamon roll (about 150 calories).

As for eating when not hungry... YES!  And I almost always feel guilty.  Funny you should mention this, because I have recently started to try to be more aware of WHAT I am feeling when I eat when not hungry.  Usually it's anxious or bored.  SOOO I have tried making a cup of tea when I feel this way and want to eat but I'm not hungry.  It helps a little, but I still do it occasionally.

1:30 AM sounds like a reasonable first baby step to me, LuckyMe! :wink:

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 Posted: 25 January 2008 05:06 am
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Wow!  Thanks so much you two for the good answers you gave today.  Sometimes I've felt as though I must be the only idiot in the world who really wants to lose a few pounds, but day after day I eat when I know I'm not even hungry.  During binges, I can understand it; that's giving in to the addiction, and hunger has nothing to do with it  But the day-to-day eating without knowing what hunger feels like?  I was especially pleased with your reply, Peter, saying that you rarely feel hunger.  I want to find an opportunity when I can actually go without food until I know what hunger feels like.  I can't ever remember it being a physical thing, only emotional and/or psychological.

Perhaps there would be merit in treating the first bite of chocolate, cookie, etc., like a first drink for an alcoholic.  Our monitoring sweets has made me realize that most of the dark days are triggered by just a bite, then one more, then even more, then...........   

Today was a so-so day for sweets, a chocolate chip cookie & a square of dark chocolate (50 calories).  I don't know how many calories in these cookies......and it's probably better that way!  However, I had way more to eat than I wanted to have.  Yah, that makes sense!  I can just envision some monstrous hand forcefully opening my mouth and cramming a laden fork into it.  My "excellence" today was closer to "bad" than "perfect." :smile:

Yes, trimB, I think that too often my overeating begins with stress.  I'm seldom bored, but often stressed.  Exercise often allays the desire to eat, but I'll try the tea approach, too.

Pete, your puppy pictures are adorable.  I'll take one of mine.  Oh, oh, it's getting late.  Bye  

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 Posted: 25 January 2008 07:59 am
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Hi. I'm briefly invading your topic to mention that yesterday (Thursday) I woke up with stomach cramp which just would not go away for a few hours. As I'm familiar with Dr Joel Fuhrman's Eat To Live materials I know that this was not 'true hunger' (which is a mouth and throat sensation). The cramp did not seem to respond to food or drink but did go away after a few hours. I'm sure that if I didn't know about 'true hunger' I would have assumed I was hungry and 'medicated' myself with food.

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 Posted: 25 January 2008 05:57 pm
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Interesting Nir... that could be a whole other discussion thread though.  Personally, I am a little skeptical of Dr Fuhrman's "true hunger" concept.  How can we be so sure about the qualities of another person's very subjective inner feelings, like hunger?  I think he would be wiser to be more clear that this concept is his THEORY and is not provable.

On with the sweets report!  I'm having a high calorie day today, on purpose.  Still within maintenance (plan, at least).  I had 1/4 of a apple turnover (100 cals), a bite of a lemon bar (50), 5 small bites of pie crust during a taste test at work (150), and 2 chocolate wafer cookies while baking at home (100).  WOW that's more than I thought... 400 calories total.  Will have to be more careful the rest of the day!

Thanks to my monitors!

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 Posted: 26 January 2008 03:51 am
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Funny how you can go so long without thinking of something... then when you do, where does it suddenly come from that it didn't come earlier?

I'm talking about this new Diet Buddies forum. Not just our topic which I'm enjoying daily, but I think the whole concept of the forum was a great idea!

I started my first of two days of no fiber before my medical test Monday. Sunday is liquids only. Not much else to report. Looking at another puppy soon, but not sure it will be the right one yet.

Keep posting!

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 26 January 2008 04:03 am
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It is written that there is a God-shaped hole in every person, and I believe that.  I also believe that some of us must have a chocolate-shaped hole within us too!  The things I wish I hadn't eaten today (I'm going to stop thinking of them as "sins") were two chocolate-chip cookies (thank goodness, they're almost gone) and two 50-calorie squares of dark chocolate. 

I don't like it that these things are so high on my list of addictions, along with a few other things I don't have to report (not sweets), because they take up room in my calorie allotment and don't add any nutritive value, but.......but this sentence is already too long.  Today did include lots of exercise: biking 10 miles, two sets of doubles (tennis), and an hour in the gym.  So, maybe I'll just decide that being 5'5.5", and 126.5 lbs is just okay, and 122 is The Impossible Dream.  Oh no, you've heard of "California or Bust"?  Well, my California is 122!

I think I'll try a new diet.  It's called the Tic-Tac Diet.  Every hour you eat one Tic-Tac.  After 4 or 5 days I should be able to write my own book on how hunger feels.  Just kidding, guys!

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 Posted: 26 January 2008 05:32 pm
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Lucky Me wrote: I also believe that some of us must have a chocolate-shaped hole within us too! 

I don't like it that these things are so high on my list of addictions, along with a few other things I don't have to report (not sweets), because they take up room in my calorie allotment and don't add any nutritive value, but.......but this sentence is already too long. 
Oh no, you've heard of "California or Bust"?  Well, my California is 122!

I think I'll try a new diet.  It's called the Tic-Tac Diet.  Every hour you eat one Tic-Tac.  After 4 or 5 days I should be able to write my own book on how hunger feels.  Just kidding, guys!


Okay, your entire post had me giggling!!!  You are too funny!

And I agree with you Peter - the buddies idea is GREAT!  I remember maybe a year ago noticing that I had alot in common with several other forum members and wanted to connect/commiserate with them specifically... but there wasn't really an obvious or convenient way to do it.  Little did I know that we were missing the buddies forum!

Now for the nitty gritty.  This morning I had a taste of the chocolate tart filling I made (50 cals or less) and a piece of the coffeecake I made before I sent it to work with hubby (400 cals or more).  Then just now I had a peppermint stick (50 cals).  There are a few of those left, so I might have to throw them in the trash quick!  I might be impulsive, but I have never once gotten something BACK out of the trash. :devil:

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 Posted: 26 January 2008 06:38 pm
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trimB wrote: I might be impulsive, but I have never once gotten something BACK out of the trash.

I have!

For many years in OA I kept hearing stories of people eating out of trash cans. I thought they meant trash cans around the city or whatever, like a homeless person might have to do. I didn't relate at all.

Then one day it suddenly hit me what they really meant... as I was doing it!

Let's say for my last binge of the evening I bought a Sara Lee cake, but could only eat half of it. The rest went in the trash. I planned to be on my diet the following day, as always.

The next evening when I'd been off my diet for most of the day, I'd remember the cake in my trash can!

It would be in the box in my own kitchen and not really much different than if it had been sitting on the kitchen counter. But here I was, eating out of my trash can!

After I finally learned what they meant, I started using the garbage disposal or pouring water over it before it went in the trash. This was good because if I manage to arrive home still on my diet it wouldn't be there to tempt me. But of course many times I would just have to go buy another cake!

I'm on my second day of no fiber, and dropped a pound. But I won't really know my true weight till I'm back to eating normal next week.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 27 January 2008 05:02 am
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Thanks for the kind words, trimB.  I want you to know that I have thoroughly enjoyed "buddying" with you.  You and Peter are both unfailingly encouraging, as well as kind and helpful.  I wish I had your ability to be candid, Peter.  It's admirable, and I'm hoping for the day when I can be that, too.  Every evening I look forward to reading and writing with you guys.

Today has been wonderful.  I have NO SUGAR (discounting my daily ice cream treat) to report.  I've thought about those blasted cookies a zillion times, but haven't succumbed to their beckoning.  And today, I completed 100 miles on the bicycle for this week.  That is always my goal, but very often I don't make it.

From now on, whenever I think that something I do in this never-ending struggle to be normal, is far out, I will "see" again the picture of you, Peter, pouring water on Sara Lee before you stuck her in the trash!  That's choice! 

I hope all goes well with your test on Monday.

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 Posted: 27 January 2008 05:54 am
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Lucky Me wrote: Today has been wonderful.  I had NO SUGAR (discounting my daily ice cream treat).

I totally understand. I'm doing that with my daily toast and jam snack. But you have to admit it sounds funny!

Grrr. I should post this in the Pet Peeves topic. For the second day in a row this Miniature Schnauzer breeder has replied to my e-mails, but both times not responded to all my questions. Namely, where does she live!

She's looking forward to seeing me tomorrow, and I'm all excited about seeing her puppy, and don't know where she lives! I need to be three by noon, but she won't be home so I can call her. Grrr.

It will be resolved by the time you read this. Just venting so I can try to get some sleep.

Second day of no fiber. Only liquids tomorrow. Such fun! (No toast and jam, of course!)

Night night,

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 27 January 2008 02:31 pm
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You guys are doing so well!  I wish I could say the same.
We went to friends' house for dinner, and I had brought dessert.  So I had a piece of that, more or less to be social... it was a chocolate peppermint tart.  I don't even want to think about how many calories.
Then this morning I had a piece of coffeecake (400 calories or so).  I guess I have to get rid of that too?!?!

It always is SO much more difficult when I am baking at home, usually for others but I always taste or have the leftovers.  This past week it was the dessert from last night and the coffeecake for this weekend.
This coming week I have 3 cakes to make... so I am challenging myself to NO nibbling!  NONE!  I'm sure I'll have other sweets to report but NONE of those 3 cake tidbits! :angry:

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 Posted: 27 January 2008 03:52 pm
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I'm picturing your cakes looking like something left out overnight and found in the morning with little mouse nibbles all over them. How do you nibble on a cake and not leave it looking mouse-nibbled?

Cover up you nibbles with icing? :wink:

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 28 January 2008 04:58 am
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Oh no, now there will be trimB's coffee cake in the trash can with Sara Lee!  Is this can big enough for the rest of my chocolate chip cookies? Good luck with avoiding the nibbles on three cakes.  You can do it! 

Actually, I'm sorry but I cannot contribute my cookies to our virtual trash can.  Years ago (more than I care to think about) my mom taught me to "waste not, want not."  I guess it was good advice because I have to admit that I've never been in want, but there have been many times I've wished I could just throw something out instead of keeping it until I eat it.  Perhaps discipline has to start in the grocery store.  Old habits die hard!

Hope you found out where the breeder lives, Peter.  You could start a new forum, called Pet Pet Peeves?

Sunday's true confessions:  Two cookies and two Hershey's kisses. 

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 Posted: 28 January 2008 06:00 am
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I appreciate the saying "Waste not want not," but when it comes to food, there's another that sometimes applies:

"Don't make a trash can out of your stomach."

It's an old saying, but it applies to our discussion. If your body doesn't need something, is it better to put it in your stomach than the trash can?

Getting ready for my test in the morning today I had a glass of OJ, one of apple juice, and a couple cans of :sodapop:. Never felt hungry.

In fact, I just realized that I was allowed to drink all the juice I wanted (I guess I did!) and just to keep my strength I should have had much more juice.

Oh, I guess I just didn't feel like it because I also had to drink so much water!

:glass_water: :glass_water: :glass_water: :glass_water: :glass_water: :glass_water: :glass_water: :glass_water: ...

Guess it's about time for trimB to be getting up! :dizzy:

Night night,

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 28 January 2008 03:04 pm
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I managed to pawn the second half of the chocolate peppermint tart off on my sister yesterday, whew!  There's still half of a small coffeecake left that might hit the trash later today... it's calling me!! :shock:  I don't like to waste things either, LuckyMe - but I guess I ultimately agree with Peter.  Better wasted in the trash than sitting on my love handles forever!

Many cakes form a slight dome on top while baking.  This needs to be leveled off (IE cut off) before filling and icing.  Instant cake scraps ready for nibbling.  No need for covering little nibbles up with icing, haha!  Those cake scraps will HAVE to hit the trash instead of my lips!

This morning had a couple of bites of cinn roll (200 cals), one bite of cookie (50 cals or less), and one little sliver of coffecake at home (100 cals).  350 calories of junk, UGhhhhhhh!  Okay that's it, the coffecake is going away!

Hope your test goes smoothly today, Peter!

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 Posted: 28 January 2008 11:44 pm
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My test was fine, thanks. No pollywogs.

I lost at least two pounds and it will be interesting to see where my weight settles after a few days of eating again. Right now I'm strugging to get down some homemade rainsin bran. Nothing sounds good yet.

Okay, trimB, now I understand. I Googled your job description and found this:

Must have Level II or higher Cake Leveling skills, the fine art of nibbling on each of the layers of a cake to ensure that they remain level, + of - 0.1 degree.

You are a dedicated employee. :wink:

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 Posted: 29 January 2008 04:37 am
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Hi guys,  I did not eat at all well this week, and it was only due to tons of exercise that the scale did not go up.  I just can't rely on that again this week; it's too hard.

Four pieces of candy, then a chocolate candy bar, and a bunch of other (not sweets) junk.  A friend gave me a big basketful of beautiful oranges.  Maybe I can charm the sugar demons into being satisfied with an orange or two everyday.

So glad your test was negative, Peter.  A two-pound loss, uh?  Hmmmmm   Nope, not worth it.  Besides, my doctor would probably have me committed if I asked for one.......after what I told him about the last one. 

And, oh yes, I totally agree with everything both of you said about throwing things out, rather than wearing them.  At least intellectually, I agree.  Practically, it's difficult, but when I'm sad about my day's intake (like now), I am filled with resolve.......until tomorrow morning when I will feel better and hence, not quite so resolved.  Thanks to both of you for being there.

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 Posted: 29 January 2008 06:02 am
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Lucky Me,

Can you think of an alternative when you are tempted by a sweet? Not that they are great habits, but I've used Trident gum or a diet cola. I guess just other bad habits.

I thought of your half-cup ice cream when I updated the Stone Cold Creamery list today.

Hey, I get to upgrade your title to Member in a couple days!

Had my toast and jam snack again tonight. My old bedtime friend.

Night night,

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 29 January 2008 08:07 pm
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Was that text really in a job description, Peter?  TOO funny!  Glad to hear that your test was fine.

So I did throw out the last bit of coffeecake.  Just too hard to keep around.  Hubby would not have gotten to it before I polished it off, I assure you!  He doesn't have the same compulsions as I do.  Baked the second of the two cakes for this weekend today.  No nibbles.  YAY!  Thanks to you two for helping me be accountable.  The third cake was iced and sent off this morning, so no dangers there.

This morning I had a couple of small cinn roll nibbles (100 cals).  Not too bad!  Between you guys and Zen's 21-day challenge, I might just clean up my eating habits... a little.:wink:

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 Posted: 30 January 2008 03:26 am
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There's something spooky going on here.  A few minutes ago, at the end of a marvelous day, I was thinking about what I was going to write.  Then I turned on the computer and found Peter's suggestion about the gum or diet soda.  What I had decided had helped so much today (well, from about 8:00 pm on) was 3 or 4 Tic-Tacs at intervals.  I've joked about these things before, but I've never really used them to foil the sugar pangs.  Somehow just having something in my mouth has kept me from wanting to wipe out the contents of the refrigerator.  (Hey, mom, did you take my pacifier away when I was a baby......or weren't they even invented yet then?)  

I have no extra sweets to report, and not any junk either.  It's been a good day and I'm thankful.

All right! Is there a big check that goes with the status upgrade, Peter?  BTW, what happened with the breeder for whom you had no address?

Good for you, trimB.  So Sugar Baby got out three cakes that were nibble-free?  Excellent!  Have you ever noticed that so often we all have a good day?  And ditto for a bad day. 

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 Posted: 30 January 2008 06:12 am
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Glad you both did so well!

Lucky Me, you can wipe out the entire contents of a refrigerator? Child's play. I do supermarkets! :wink:

I had a good but exhausting day, as I made contact with the breeder and got my puppy! It was fun, coming from So CA for 50 years, that it snowed arriving at her home in Salem, OR and driving back through Portland.

Okay, I'll try not to be too much of a doting dog owner as I've always made fun of them, but I"ll be posting Muka's mug shots here:

http://www.MySchnauzer.net

I'm so tired I doubt I'll even get to my toast and jam snack tonight, and I did a great job with my meals. Below is my lunch. I thought it would look so odd to many that I took a pic just for fun. Obviously I had the camera out for the trip to see the puppies.

It's really more like healthy snack material, but on the rare occasion I pack a lunch when I'll be out it's pretty typical.

I'm also proud of my dinner. I decided to treat myself to Panda Express. Sometimes I just get a side of Chow Mein for a treat, but tonight I had a meal. A meal is typically Chow Mein and one entree, Orange Chicken. But I've been doing so well with the Challenge that all that grease soaked dough didn't sound good, so I got broccoli beef.

Turned out the broccoli was WAY overcooked, and the beef tasted like it was covered with horrible gravy. So I didn't eat much!

Going to post some Muka pics now if I can before I fall asleep!

Night night,

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 Posted: 30 January 2008 07:27 pm
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Great pics Peter!  Muka looks like a really sweet puppy.

I really didn't do too bad at work this morning... about 100 calories worth of cinn roll nibbles.  I've made them so many times that they are darn near perfect, and it is hard not to eat the little scraps that fall off as I cut them out of the pan.  So 100 calories of junk I can live with.  Maybe eventually that will seem like too much, but for now I'm okay with it.

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 Posted: 30 January 2008 07:57 pm
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Your scraps remind me of Sweet Nothings!

Peter:monkey:

P.S.

Hmm. I just Googled that and maybe it was just a family term?

My ex-wife's grandmother would bake the pie crust trimmings after putting cinnamon-sugar on them if my memory serve me right.

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 Posted: 31 January 2008 12:32 am
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That is too funny!  I'm still giggling at the picture in my head of Peter wiping out the entire supermarket.  Which end did you start with?  I hope you quit before you got to the bug spray and the paper products.

Muka looks adorable.  Now you aren't alone.  TrimB, you really know how to hurt a guy...talking about "perfect" cinnamon rolls, while I am trying to survive on Tic-Tacs. :smile: Seriously, it sounds as though you are doing great.

I did my weekly 35-mile bike ride today (with breakfast in the middle).  The only extra sweet I have to report is 1/2 of a packet of strawberry jam.  Breakfast came with a wonderful, fluffy biscuit, and I know you've heard of the commandment which says, "Thou shalt not have a marvelous biscuit without strawberry jam."  Haven't heard that one?  Shucks!

I AltaVista'd Sweet Nothings and got a bunch of ads for Maidenform bras.  Oh well, you can't win em all, I guess.  My mom used to roll the clippings from the piecrust into a circle, spread jam on it, roll it up and bake it with the pie.  Yum!

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 Posted: 31 January 2008 04:17 am
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I weighed 184.5 today, just a half pound above my goal for the challenge ending in February. But after my fasting I'll have to see where it settles. Back to the gym tomorrow.

Not much more to report. Tired from staying up late last night posting pictures of my puppy.

Night night,

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 Posted: 31 January 2008 06:00 pm
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I think you were sending me brain waves, LuckyMe... because I was just fantasizing about biscuits this morning.  Luckily none materialized, or else I might have eaten many of those babies!

This morning's damage was not too bad... 100 calories-worth of nibbles of pecan pie bar.

I've never heard them called Sweet Nothings, but those both sound like great ways to use up pastry scraps!  My favorite similar thing is with any yeasted dough scraps.... brush the little scraps with butter and roll in cinnamon sugar, then stick several little scraps together in a muffin tin.  I've heard them called pull-aparts or cobblestones or monkey bread! :monkey:

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 Posted: 1 February 2008 04:24 am
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Hey, that's my monkey!

I've seen monkey bread in whole loves. Great fun, it's like breaking apart a clump of muffins.

Back to gym today. Weight still 184.5.

Eating virtually no sweets is really making it easy to stay away from them. I'm going to Costco Saturday and I would normally get one of their Berry Berry Sundies. But it sounds like just too much right now. I'll likely get a hot dog though.

I'll see what my friends are serving Super Bowl Sunday. Just might have something then!

Night night,

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 Posted: 1 February 2008 05:13 am
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You're doing fantastic with your weight, Peter.  Maybe I'll have to reconsider that colonoscopy business! One thing about biscuits, trimB, you don't have to report them.....unless, of course, you succumb to the strawberry jam.

Not a great day, sugar-wise, but 13 miles on the bicycle and three sets of tennis tonight should help.  I gave in to two chocolate candy bars (mini ones) and a piece of cake.  I need to give up sweets altogether; they so often seem to need a "chaser".......like peanuts or something else salty.  Then comes the depression. 

Sometimes I just say, "Why do I want to be thin anyhow?"  But then I see somebody like the man who weighed 700 or 800 lbs. on the Dr. Phil show yesterday.  Whew!  Poor fella.  

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 Posted: 1 February 2008 04:46 pm
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Lucky Me, I almost replied when you called jam a sweet the other day. I guess it's whatever you want it to be. But I just always looked at it as a condiment on a healthy piece of whole wheat bread. It is made of fruit.

Okay, and sugar. And of course apple pie is made of apples!

Oh, that's a funny story. When my kids were small we used to frequent a cafeteria in Pasadena, CA that I went to as a kid myself. It was so great because the kids could order two or three small dishes side dishes to make up a meal, whereas in a restaurant they would have to order a whole meal.

My wife would always order a baked apple, and call it fruit. That way she could still order dessert!

I guess if a baked apple is fruit, strawberry jam certainly is!

Haha,

Peter:monkey:

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Don't get the colonoscopy to lose weight yet. I'm up a pound today! As predicted, it will jump around fo a bit.

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 Posted: 1 February 2008 06:28 pm
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OOOH have I been cheating?  I haven't been reporting my jam intake!  Mostly because I have a "no sugar added" variety.  But it is fruit, so it tastes sweet.  Anyway, my goal was mainly to report sugary junk - so fruit-only jam in on the fence!

Not such a great day yesterday after all.  Had two little chocolate wafers (100 cals) and a little taste of icing I was making (100 cals?).  So that was around 300 cals of junk for the day.  I know that's too much!


But today hasn't been much better... taste of cherry pie, taste of cookie dough, half of hubby's donut, then a finished cookie.  OH NOOOO!  That's about 500 calories total.  WHOA how embarassing!  Well anyway, that is motivation to ignore my sweet tooth at least for the rest of the day.  :sad:

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 Posted: 1 February 2008 07:55 pm
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The discussion of what's a sweet can go to far. I was just having fun.

I used to use the no sugar added type myself, but the fructose they add is basically sugar, it just comes from fruit.

I feel that condiments often make eating healthy palatable. For examp