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GolfBrew
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Posted: 13 March 2008 04:45 pm |
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My wife and I have been watching the Biggest Loser for the last several weeks and while that show is quite entertaining and it’s impressive to see such large losses (100 lbs by some in a little over 10 weeks) I just hope it doesn’t give too many people unrealistic expectations about weight loss. I mean, these people have doctors, trainers and healthy food at their disposal 24 hours a day and have nothing to do all day but eat healthy and exercise.
While I am happy with my 1-2.5 lbs lost each week, I fear the effect this show will have on people that need to lose weight without the proper resources (nutritionists, trainers, doctors, etc). How many people are starving themselves for weeks trying to lose 7 lbs a week or more, only to give up in hunger and frustration and gain this back and more due to their now very inefficient metabolisms? Oh well, just my rant for the day and my two cents after watching this weeks show. I just hope the show does more good to inspire people to improve their lifestyles than it does to give people unrealistic expectations without the resources to go about the weight loss in a healthy manner.
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kakki
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Posted: 13 March 2008 05:50 pm |
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| I love the show, I've always watched it. But I do agree that with you. I have noticed though that this is the first time(that I remember) that they make mention on how long these people work out during the day. And in the kicked off members blog they also mention how many hours a day they are in the gym. The players themselves will say when they get on the scale, that the weight they lose there is not normal world weight loss. Good job on your loss and success!!!
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EJ33
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Posted: 14 March 2008 10:58 am |
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The biggest loser is an entertaining show but it does plant the seed to shoot for a rapid weightloss. Plus a crazy amount of exercise. But this is very much in line with the mindset of our culture.
To me, most people have this basic plan to lose weight:
1. Pick some fad diet or a "Healthy Eating Plan" and then try to eat as few calories as possible to lose weight as quickly as possible.
2. Exercise 10, 20 or 30 hours a week to try to lose weight as quickly as possible.
To me, if a person wants to permanently lose weight they need to make lifestyle changes.
1. Try to determine a realistic and healthy weight given your body type, height and etc.
2. Estimate the number of calories you need to maintain that healthy weight. (If you find yourself hungry with that number of calories you may have to re-adjust your idea of a realistic and healthy weight.)
3. Gradually make changes in your daily diet so that you eat the calories needed to maintain that healthy weight. (If you normally eat 3000 calories a day and determine you only need 1800 calories a day for your idea of a healthy weight it may take months to gradually go from 3000 to 1800 calories a day.)
4. Gradually develop a weekly exercise routine that you will do on a regular basis. If you exercise about 30 minutes a day this can burn 200-300 extra calories a day. This extra 200-300 calories a day will give you that much more food to eat to maintain that healthy weight.
To me, if you want to weigh 120, 150 or 200 pounds you need to be consuming the calories required to maintain that particular weight. The exercise will give you that many more calories to eat each day but exercising 30 minutes a day is not going to result in 30, 50 or 100 pounds of weightloss no matter how many years you may exercise.
If you weigh 200 and start eating like a person who weighs 150 what will happen? You will have a significant calorie deficit every day and gradually over time you will eventually weigh about 150 pounds.
My two cents...
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Dazed1
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Posted: 15 March 2008 06:08 pm |
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| EJ33, that is the way I look at it. I base my calorie intake on a sedatory person at that goal weight. I do exercise more than you advocate because I have read YoungerNextYear, and I am a big believer in evolution. I have also eliminated all processed food.
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mollymoo24
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Posted: 15 March 2008 06:54 pm |
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The Biggest Loser was a key motivator for me to start my weight loss journey. They were airing the BL Australia marathon right before New Years and I watched the whole thing.
I absolutely knew that I would not lose weight as fast as the people on that show. They were in an immersion program working out a least 4 hours a day and sometimes many more. But it also showed me that you can get real, meaningful results that don't take years if you change your diet and get off your rear and exercise like you mean it. EVERY SINGLE ONE of those people lost significant amounts of weight and did it without pills or other tricks. And some of those girls were bigger than me and they were jogging and climbing and biking in no time - while I had zero fitness and no exercise in a long time. I thought "If they can do it, I can do it!"
Anyway, I think the show isn't trying to fool people and its a much better influence than all those metabo-droxy-cut ads. Just my two cents as well.
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EJ33
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Posted: 16 March 2008 10:21 pm |
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Hi Dazed1,
I used 30 minutes of exercise a day as an example of about how many calories would be burned. Plus it does take a pretty serious commitment to exercise 3.5 hours a week.
Infomercials have people exercising an hour a week and losing 4-5 pounds a week. Nonsense but people believe the infomercials because they are on TV.
I advocate exercising as much as you have the time and energy to do on a regular basis every week.
It's great you have been successful at eliminating processed foods. I wish I could follow in your footsteps.
EJ33
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cportwine
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Posted: 25 March 2008 03:23 pm |
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| I have only watched the show a few times. I just think losing weight is such a personal thing. I can't imagine anyone wanted to share it on nation wide television. But, I do agree. I would think it give alot people who need to lose weight out there a wrong perspective about it. Do they have some disclaimer or something on the show to worn people. You know like " don't try this at home" kind of thing...
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 4 September 2009 10:39 pm |
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*Bump!*
New season September 15th. Daniel from last season is back on and he's determined to get rid of all the weight. There's a contestant this year that weighs more than Daniel did last year. I love that show. It's so emotional and nothing gets me excited about health like watching over a dozen people sweating, crying, and then dancing on the scale. It goes to show that it really, really is worth it.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 16 September 2009 10:32 pm |
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Did you hear Jillian's comment last night about the number of people they have on the show over 400 lbs each? That it's indicative of the severe obesity in our country today. They've never had that many people over 400 lbs. on before..........and the heaviest at 474 lbs? America..........we need to wake up and start eating healthy and exercise!
I, too, get very emotional watching that show. I hate to miss it! Having gone from a measley 247 lbs to 155 lbs and now bouncing up and down the scale..........I've felt their emotions! I've been the last one picked..........the one who doesn't fit comforably in seats (airline or theater)........the one who feels self-conscious being the heaviest one at a party or in a group...........the one who had to wear shapeless clothes, who bought what I could fit into, never stylish clothes..........etc.
I love that they seem to appreciate this for what it is.............a chance to get their life back.............a chance to lose the weight! I love the support they give each other at the beginning shows, and hate the game-playing toward the end.
They inspire me to keep going............to keep on trying...........to never give up! They have so much more to lose than I do at this point. Why can't I just stick with it, and lose those last lbs? If they can give up family and loved ones for the time it takes to be at the ranch and lose the weight, why can't I give up those favorite, fattening foods to eat healthy and get this weight off and keep it off? Well, I can...........and I'm going to let them inspire me once again.
As I look at that group of 16 severely obese people, I try to imagine how stunning they would look at goal weight. It will be amazing, once again, to see them at the end of the season. They just want a normal life...........to be able to shop in normal clothing stores..............and to be able to date or play with their kids, like others do. I can't wait to see them accomplish their goals.
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Peter
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Posted: 17 September 2009 02:04 am |
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I'd never watched an episode of The Biggest Loser before, and when I just watched the 2009 season opener I was quite surprised. I expected there to be a lot of hype and emotion, but I thought they would say SOMETHING about how to lose weight in a healthy way.
In the two hour program, I don't remember a single word about healthy eating or exercise other than their ad for their whey protein powder. I was expecting SOMETHING! Maybe they'll slip some healthy weight loss tips into the follow-up episodes?
The single concept they seemed to push about weight loss was "no pain no gain," and these words are probably responsible for more fat Americans than any other words. Other than, possibly, "Can I super-size that for you?"
This has been a pet peeve of mine since I started jogging to get rid of my fat in the '70s. I would see these overweight people come to the track and KILL themselves and I just knew I'd never see them again. And I wouldn't. Now when I see this happen at the gym, I go talk to them and tell them that the single most important thing they can do in their workout is make it enjoyable enough so they will look forward to coming back.
And that over time -- because they keep coming back -- they will have the added thrill of seeing the weight come off.
So does The Biggest Loser send the message that the path to losing weight is to act like a Marine recruit going through boot camp? How many people would keep that up for long? And how many would die (I really mean die!) in the process?
I was dumbfounded that they would ask 400+ pound people who had not been exercising at all to run a mile. That's insane! (That's drama for the TV screen is what it is, helicopter rescue and all.)
The fact that they spent zero time talking about healthy eating and most of the time showing boot camp style workouts with screaming and swearing and crying (oh the drama!) also sends the message that exercise -- any form of exercise -- is the answer to weight loss. It's not!
Exercise burns calories, increases your muscle mass so you burn more calories 24/7, improves your health and stamina and makes you feel better about yourself so you eat better and on and on... it's great. But it's not the answer! Only eating healthy will bring significant, lasting weight loss, and they didn't say a word about it.
I hope I just got a bad impression from the first episode. I'll watch next week to see if they do any better.
I can understand why people would watch it from the human interest standpoint. The stories and emotions are gripping, and we've all been there. And they even have tribal chanting music when the contestants enter the Elimination Room! (LOL couldn't resist that one.)
But America, buying The Biggest Loser's whey protein and joining 24 Hour Fitness isn't going to fix it.
Eat healthy!
Peter
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 17 September 2009 03:48 am |
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| They talk about it all the time, don't worry. They just had to cram the opener with member introductions, a good look at their workouts, and their first-week weight loss. It's basically every bit of entertainment, you know how it starts strong then tapers off then finishes strong.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 17 September 2009 04:46 am |
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Peter, I think it is for the human interest angle that I watch it. It's not for information on how to lose weight and exercise. Who would watch a show on how to count calories and proper exercise technique.........in primetime TV? Wouldn't happen! I know they hype, and I often wish they'd spend more time on what their eating plan is.
But, they don't...........probably cause it doesn't make for good ratings??? However, they do have these "trainer tips" thrown in here and there during the show. I like that they often mention how important it is to drink adequate water.........notice they all carry their water bottles around? And I wondered how much of the collapse on the 1 mile run last night had to do with improper hydration before exercise?
I also like the "challenges" where they have to choose the healthiest food between two choices..........and then explain why it's the better choice. I noticed last year they showed the computers where the contestants had to log their foods, which would then use a program to calculate calories and nutrition info. I like when they take them off campus to a restaurant........usually Subway though (a sponsor of some sort???) and instruct them in making healthy choices when eating out. And the last few seasons, they've been wearing some sort of monitor that they log into their computer to track calories burned. And Jillian may shout and curse (I don't like that part) to get some contestants to push the exercise and give all...........but she's also been know to yell at them if she finds out they aren't eating properly or are cutting calories too low, and stall out in their weight loss.
I know it's hyped for TV...........or they wouldn't have viewers............and I think we all know it's not reasonable for us to put in the hours of exercise that they do........heavens, I can hardly find 45 minutes a day for CURVES or a walk on the track, but we do get to see the emotion of wanting to lose the weight..........we see them willing to risk losing a job or being away from spouses and children, to have the chance to get back to being a normal sized person again............and we get to see that joy and happiness on their faces, on the season finale, as they walk out on stage, not even looking like the person who came to the ranch at the beginning of the season.
Not all succeed at the same level.............and truly, starting at over 400 lbs is a long way to go............but they do all lose weight, and feel better about themselves. Many find a solution to the emotional problems, that are a big contributor to their weight gain. Some shows talk about how without letting go of the baggage, they will just gain the weight back. And some of the contestants do gain the weight back.......just like so many of the rest of us do. 
I know I was trying to wash up my abundant tomato picking last night, and missed a bit of BL here and there.............but I didn't see anything about their protein powder, nor have I in past seasons. Maybe I was busy during those commmercials? I know they push Britta water filter products, and avoiding using plastic bottles that will end up in the landfills. But, without sponsors.............there wouldn't be TV.
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Peter
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Posted: 17 September 2009 07:53 am |
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My comments were based on the only eposide I've ever watched in which they said ZERO about healthy eating and exercise. What they said about water was during their Britta ad.
And if they scared people away from weight loss by giving them the impression they had to exercise like a Marine at boot camp, they did harm.
I'm glad to hear it will get better.
Peter
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Hisgal
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Posted: 17 September 2009 09:27 pm |
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It's still done in a way to hype things up for ratings, Peter...........it's TV after all! And I think in the years they've been on, they are getting better at working food and nutrition stuff in there. I don't remember seeing anything about that in the first few seasons. That was really frustrating!
But, at the same time, I think it's good that they are calling attention to the obesity rate in the US, just by having a show about losing weight. And as they devulge more info on each contestant, you see that they are from every walk of life. Any one of us, who are/have been overweight, could lose control and balloon to extremely obese proportions. I've seen first hand, how easily I've put the lbs back on......and how I struggle to get them off again.
I particularly like the segment they did on the first show this season, (and they've done that before) about what the actual health status is on each one of them..............and it's heartening to see the segment they do later in the season, about how far they've come in reducing or eliminating those health problems. How much Type II diabetes, heart disease, stroke or high cholesterol could be reduced or eliminated across the United States.............if people ate healthy and exercised???
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Scoobees
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Posted: 18 September 2009 12:05 am |
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I just had to chime in - most know this is my favorite show!!
It's reality TV. It's a competition. I don't believe it has ever been intended to be a show on HOW to do anything. It's pure entertainment for me. I think most people by now (the 8th season is it? or 7?) know this is not an instructional how-to thing. The sell the Biggest Loser books for that. 
Anyway, this looks to be an awesome season!!
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Peter
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Posted: 18 September 2009 12:42 am |
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Didn't mean to be bashing your show, and I wouldn't judge it entirely on the opening episode.
And I suppose that arguing that it should have contained more about eating and exercising in a healthy way is a little bit like saying professional athletes should be good-citizen role models when all they want to do is play ball. That's their occupation.
But I stand by my point that I think it is very wrong of them to make it appear -- if only in the first episode -- that to lose weight you have to exercise like a Marine at boot camp. That's totally false, and could scare many overweight people away from even trying to lose weight.
And hey, if you think I'm getting carried away with this... well, you're the ones who like all the drama! Haha... just teasing a bit.
Peter
P.S.
If I still had control of this website I could add Bickering Over Reality TV Shows to the calories burned calculator!
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 18 September 2009 12:49 am |
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| I mean, the whole POINT of the show is to lose the most weight. Hence the title and deciding factor of who goes home. They're gonna have to do insane amounts of exercise to do that. It's a means to their end.
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Scoobees
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Posted: 18 September 2009 12:57 am |
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Peter wrote:
If I still had control of this website I could add Bickering Over Reality TV Shows to the calories burned calculator!
Yes! Perhaps I'd have remained at my goal weight with that!!!
It's ok to bash the show though; I do and it's my fave show. You could also argue the fact that it makes people believe that losing 20 - 25 lbs a week is doable.  That's one of my personal sore spots.
And also Peter, you could watch many upcoming episodes and not see so much about proper nutrition. Some of it is mentioned in passing at times; or they have a super quick segment in the kitchen about cooking - but most of it is product placement for advertising purposes.
But again, I LOVE it but it's pure entertainment for me.
And it's awesome to see you around here Peter!!
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Peter
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Posted: 18 September 2009 12:58 am |
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AshIdiot wrote: I mean, the whole POINT of the show is to lose the most weight. Hence the title and deciding factor of who goes home. They're gonna have to do insane amounts of exercise to do that. It's a means to their end.
Okay, that's a good point. But it needs a tagline: Don't try this at home unless you have a medivac helicopter standing by!
For the average person, exercise is NOT the way to lose weight. And those who think so eat too much, thinking they will "burn it off," and fail. Exercise is important to supplement weight loss that comes from proper nutrition, and that's not the message the first epidose gave.
Out of 16 contestants, two went to the hospital and one wasn't back a whole week later. If that doesn't make my point, I give up!
don't take me too seriously.
Peter
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CodeMonkey
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Posted: 18 September 2009 05:25 am |
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Last season the really old guy passed out on the first day and was taken to the hospital.
He came back at the end and competed against everyone who was voted off and won.
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Peter
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Posted: 18 September 2009 06:51 am |
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Hey Mudman! Nice to hear from you!
All of you, actually. I've just been so busy with other websites I haven't been around.
Peter
P.S.
AshIdiot, what's with the New Member status? I just made you a Distinguished Member!
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Hisgal
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Posted: 23 September 2009 03:38 pm |
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So, last night's BL had more on nutrition than I've usually seen. I think over the last couple of years, they've been working more into the show. They never used to emphasize diet this much, from my memory. I like it!
It was interesting to see how much Traci lost...........just back from the hospital, can't exercise like the rest of them, but watched her diet closely and walked and swam..........and beat a few of them, on the scale, who exercised their brains out!
Also interesting that on the notorious Week 2........when historically the contestants lose very little or even gain...........that with close attention to diet (calories) and calories burned (exercise)..........this group overcame the Week 2 curse. Is there a message there for the rest of us? We do need to track what goes in and what goes out!
I also like that they are starting the show out with more of a team attitude. I suppose that will change, and we will see more game-play............but I like this! We all need help and support to lose weight!
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Peter
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Posted: 24 September 2009 07:18 am |
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There's one thing they all seemed to forget when they were congratulating Traci... for her it was week one!
The product ads for Ziploc bags and their protein drink were embarrassing, but I agree... they had more talk this time about healthy eating and exercise.
One specific thing that bothered me was the coach's direction to one woman to keep to her 1200 calories a day. 1200 is COMMONLY referred to as if it's a magic number, no matter how heavy a person is.
This one-size-fits-all mentality is nonsense. As they said, you have to eat enough or your body will go into starvation mode. I'd think for a 400 pounder that 1200 calories a day would send you into starvation mode really fast.
Anyway, it was fun!
Till next week...
Peter
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 24 September 2009 09:27 pm |
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You're right. Someone said this but they didn't emphasize it enough: If you push exceptionally hard, you'll continue to lose huge amounts of weight. But they realized that to make the week 2 goal, everyone was gonna seriously plateau for week 3.
And finally, I do have a complaint about the show. The nutrition challenge with Curtis Stone. How the eff do you get so many calories out of a blueberry, yogurt, almond parfait? The almonds are 20 calories. The blueberries are 83. The yogurt is 40. How would you get 207 calories out of that? Honestly, am I the only person on earth who isn't too stupid to buy a healthy yogurt? I'm so sick of the LOL OMG HTIS YOGURT IS GREEK AND LOW FAT IT MUST BE HEALTHY! Uh, no. It has like 200 calories. Read the label, just like you keep telling everyone else to do.
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 30 September 2009 02:45 am |
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This episode totally made me mad. Now, not the content, but the players. For one thing, this is EVERYONE'S 'cursed' week 2 if you think about it. For Tracy, it really is week 2. For everyone else, the past two weeks have been grueling and they got their reward for it and now it's time for the plateaus. Therefore, there was absolutely nothing wrong with accepting a two pound credit at the weigh-in. Everyone was acting all shocked but like they said fifty times last week, people lose like 3 pounds at most and some even gain. 2 pounds has suddenly become a huge deal. Yes, she should have conferred with Mo, but everyone should have already realized how valuable the prize was.
Next, everyone was so mad at Tracy for her ability to control the game. Why? I don't know. EVERYONE had that choice. And if you're really seriously hating yourself for 100 calorie cupcakes, you must not eat cupcakes in the real world where they have upwards of 500 each. 100 calories? You can burn that in 12 minutes. 400 calories? Definitely in one extra hour. NOT a big deal since they don't cheat at all except at these temptations.
The weigh in really made me mad. Tracy WAS being nice about everything. Shay weighs like 100 pounds more than Daniel so by all rights she SHOULD have lost more percentage than he did even if she was 'sick' this week.
And then she lost 11 pounds. Those people need to just calm down. The show only lasts for like, 90 days, right? You can't get burned out like that. You'll never keep going when they send you home if you stress too much. And Jillian's freak out? God. She just shows me that even if you're skinny and in shape, you're still a worthless wreck if you don't go to therapy.
Yes, it's sad that a whole team went home, but I don't think anyone should blame Tracy in the slightest. They knew how high the stakes were with someone controlling the weigh-ins. There's ALWAYS something extra you can do. Instead of crying in the living room for two hours in front of a camera, you could have gone swimming in that huge pool in the backyard. Or taken a walk. Something. And however the purple team voted, they're still gonna be hated and like they said, two teams were gonna be up for elimination and a whole team was leaving regardless of the powers she won.
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Peter
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Posted: 30 September 2009 06:26 pm |
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I never watch TV live. I used to tape everything, but now use Tivo. But for the first time in two years I missed something. For some reason Tivo is set up to tape next week, but missed this week. I see it's going to be on the web soon so maybe I'll watch it, though I hate sitting at my computer and watching videos.
But it sounds like it's worth watching!
Personally, I couldn't imagine going to a weight loss camp and even considering eating a cupcake.
Peter
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Scoobees
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Posted: 30 September 2009 09:17 pm |
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I thought it was a great show last night!
Tracy = psycho
I can't believe Jillian didn't wring her neck lol! She seriously looks and acts like she needs some psychological intervention - not weight loss. And what a two-faced liar she was to all the other contestants. 
Tracy = voted off as soon as the others have an opportunity  Can't wait!
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cportwine
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Posted: 30 September 2009 10:46 pm |
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I usually don't watch the show. But, last night I did and I actually liked it. Yep, tracy is a "you know what". I doubt she will last long on the show.
I find that when I watch it I want to exercise more then I normally do. So, it's working for me at the moment to watch it while on the treadmill. 
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Peter
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Posted: 30 September 2009 10:58 pm |
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I got really sick (just a bad cold) and during that time cut way back on the treadmill. Probably a good idea. (I just reduced the incline.)
Now that I'm better, I was thinking of working back up to where I was over a perios of a week or two. Then I decided just to tough it out and go for it... just like on the show.
I did it!
Peter
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cportwine
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Posted: 30 September 2009 11:07 pm |
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| LOL.... That's great Peter! I almost talked myself into jogging....which I hate... lol Last edited on 30 September 2009 11:08 pm by cportwine
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Peter
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Posted: 7 October 2009 01:31 am |
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I found out why episode 3 didn't tape... I was taping two other shows (my limit) at the same time. And I always think I don't watch much TV!
I decided I just wasn't going to watch it anymore, then looked at a bit on the web and got hooked. Watched the entire 84 minute episode!
I sure can't relate to that cupcake challenge, but it's just the nature of my eating disorder... all or nothing. I would either quit and go home, or go all the way. If I stayed in, there's no way I would cheat on doing my best and eat anything that could set me back. No way.
(Of course there's a downside to that. When I do slip, I usually go all the way!)
I have a friend who hates reality TV, and watches sitcoms. I think sitcoms are so stupid. Same tired old humor. The guy's always dumb and the woman smart. (Except for I Love Lucy! LOL)
I guess I like the drama of the REALity TV, though I have to laugh sometimes. At one point when they were making decisions about some small matter the music was right out of the climatic battle scene of Star Wars!
That was pretty cool about the team that went home. How they were willing to be voted out because they felt they could do it on their own. Then how that one guy fell in love with the other woman from the show and they were working together!
I look forward to tonight's episode, though I probably won't watch if for a week. But go ahead and post... so you don't give anything away I won't read your posts till after I watch it.
Peter
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cportwine
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Posted: 7 October 2009 02:20 pm |
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| I didn't see the ending. I took a break from the treadmill and came up stairs. So, I don't know who had to leave. But, somehow I am wishing it was that tracey. I really don't like her. Even when she was kind of crying on the scale, I had to do an eye roll. I'll have to look it up on the web and see how it all ended...
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Peter
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Posted: 10 October 2009 03:42 pm |
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You can watch the full episodes on the web!
No one likes Tracey!
Well, I'll still gripe that they give too strong an impression that you have to beat yourself up in the gym (something MOST morbidly obese people are NOT willing to do) to lose weight. So I was really happy to see that Tracey lost 4 pounds after not working out at all!
Peter
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tourproven
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Posted: 20 October 2009 03:36 pm |
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The Biggest Loser has been a HUGE inspiration for me to make my weight loss happen. Though the weight loss numbers on the show are huge, what it does for you is show you that IT IS POSSIBLE, and not only that, but if you really tried hard enough...in a few short months you could completely change your life. The show makes the task of losing a lot of weight, not so overwhelming. To think that only 3 months from now you could be 30,40,50 or even 60 lbs lighter than you are! It makes you think about living the rest of your life overweight, vs just getting it done and living life thin and healthy. I want what those biggest losers have achieved. They are completely new people in only 4 months. My plan is a little longer, but I am going to kill it everyday to make it happen!
Also, the newest season is nowhere near as good as previous seasons to me. I don't seem to have the attachment to the characters as much. PLUS- How in the h*ll could they not vote off Tracy (that B*tch) when they had the chance? It defies all logic.
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cportwine
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Posted: 20 October 2009 04:17 pm |
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I am kind of bummed that I won't get to see it tonight. I got to go to a meeting. ugh! I could really use the mind set and exercise that I like to do while watching it.
I might have to get up early tomorrow and watch it on the net....
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Peter
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Posted: 21 October 2009 08:56 pm |
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I haven't read the two posts above, written after the Oct 20th episode, because I'll be watching it tonight! I just FINALLY saw the Oct 13th episode, about which I guess no one commented (unless it's in the above posts). I missed the Oct 13 episode because of a trip, and they FINALLY put it on the web.
Okay, I need to accept that it's just a fun TV show and stop harping about the lack of good info on weight loss, but gesh... the show starts out with everyone eating cake! Just seems like the wrong message.
I did like the training tip about the wall push-ups for people who are too obese to do the regular kind, because if you have read many of my posts on this website you know that I LOVE baby steps!
Speaking of which... every time Dena was trying to jump up on that stool if you looked in the background you saw piles of those ADJUSTABLE steps used for aerobics. I can't understand why her teammates didn't get her to use those, and work her way up in height. Baby steps!
I was sure Tracey was going. Oops!
She sure could have made amends with everyone by letting them be with the partners and coaches they wanted to be with. But she was just playing the game!
All the other contestants wanted to get control and choose the teams just like she did, but when she did it they were all upset with her. Reminds me of the idiots on survivor who complain because they trusted someone then were double-crossed. It's the nature of the game! Haven't they ever watched the show before?
Peter
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 21 October 2009 11:12 pm |
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| I'm glad someone's finally starting to see the side of Tracey that I see, that she isn't a villain and she hasn't done anything wrong. I mean, you had to have heard her say "I'm tired of making everyone else happy and I have to start doing things for myself", right? She wanted to make good teams. And honestly, if you can't lose weight because the same person isn't right next to you at all times (hello, they're across the gym. they live in the same house. what's the problem here?) then something tells me you're looking for any excuse to put those 50+ pounds right back on. Don't these people see where those excuses have gotten them in life? On another note I do feel so bad for Dina going home to those people who she no longer has anything in common with. I really hope she doesn't go back to eating the way she did and that maybe her family will try to emulate her. What's the point of saving HER life if they're just throwing their own away, you know? "Oh, you beat lung cancer? That's great. By the way, Malboros are only $3.99 a pack now so I bought a carton."
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cportwine
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Posted: 21 October 2009 11:27 pm |
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I really don't think tracy is evil. I think she is just playing the game the way she needs to. But, I do love to hate her..... she is such a you know what. I do think she is very self centered and is trying to make it all about herself. Which is good if she can lose weight doing that. I think she is by far the most fake person on the show. Almost like she was put there for the ratings and to keep us all watching. lol
I felt bad for dina also. I hope she can find a happy medium with her family. I know that is something everyone goes through when they lose weight. I still fight and struggle with mine at times about different things. Like you said, why be healthy if there is going to be no one around to share it with.
Oh yea, forgot, I skipped the meeting last night, just to watch the show.
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Peter
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Posted: 22 October 2009 05:26 am |
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cportwine, I'm glad you got to see it as they don't usually put it on the web for a whole week... this time it was the day following the next week's episode. I wasn't taping it because of two other shows, but one of them ended so now I get to Tivo it.
AshIdiot, I agree about them making too big a fuss about being split up with their partners. They got to be with them I think all other times except when they were working out together.
tourproven, I am absolutely thrilled with your energy, and don't want to say anything to dampen it. But be careful. I know you're not just a statistic, but statistically people who try to lose weight really fast don't do as well in the long run. If at any point your weight loss slows down, please remember to be thrilled to death that you're still losing!
Well, that was the best episode yet! I really liked it when the back team went home and you got to see how they did in the "real world." I thought that was very educational, something I've said was too often lacking in the show.
I think character-wise I like Danny the best. Really working hard, really loves his family (though they all do), really inspirational to others. So I'm rooting for him!
And what a great ending... Dina jumped up on her stool!
Peter
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tourproven
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Posted: 22 October 2009 02:16 pm |
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This weeks Biggest Loser was definately the best one so far of this season. I think it was the first time they were able to connect with the audience on an emotional level with respect to the contestants by seeing them with their families, plus getting to know them a bit better.
I was rooting for Dina. I thought she was the most genuine, down to Earth one of the bunch. Tracey is dispicable, scheming and evil. Rudy is going to set world records for weight loss I think. Poor Daniel has got so much extra skin to contend with, it looks like he's melting. Amanda doesn't have a prayer, it appears she's like the 'Brittany' of the bunch that doesn't seem to do well, ever.
I think the Biggest Loser has made a huge mistake this season by using individuals that have too much weight to lose. There is only so much time in the show, and not many of these people can actually achieve their goal weight during the season, though there are a few. Most of them will lose a ton and still appear to be big because they still have 50 or more lbs to go. For me, I want to see the winner be someone like Ali Vincent, who looks incredible; thin; and like a person that you never would have guessed was ever overweight. Those are the most motivating stories. She is one of the few that took it ALL THE WAY to the goal weight.
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Peter
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Posted: 22 October 2009 05:41 pm |
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I hate seeing all that hanging skin too, because I know that it becomes more of a problem when you lose weight quickly. But I guess anyone losing that much weight would probably want to eventually have some of it removed.
tourproven, check out some of my doggie websites!
http://www.DirtypawWebsites.com
Peter
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Scoobees
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Posted: 4 November 2009 03:14 am |
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| Can't say I was sad to see Tracey go , but it was unfortunate that the only time she sounded like a sane and normal person was in the last few minutes. She looked really good in the current flash forward - and what adorable kids she has.
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cportwine
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Posted: 4 November 2009 12:53 pm |
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| Yea, I even got kind of choked up on her return home. But, I am glad she is gone from the show. I was happy for allot of them that had good weeks. Being away from the norm can be hard.
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Peter
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Posted: 7 November 2009 05:25 pm |
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I totally agree about Tracey. Only nice in the end.
I wonder what it's like for her children to watch the show and hear all the things said about her. Or if they read any of the forum posts on the web.
I suppose her children, and all her friends, will take the viewpoint that she was just trying to win the game.
I got behind, so I am just now posting about the previous week, which no one commented on.
I loved the therapy coaching Julian gives to the contestants, especially how she helped Abbey see what was causing her to be so unhappy... and put on the weight. And how to work around it. (Oh yea, she lost her family. Duh. Well, that's what made her unhappy, but Julian helped her get on with living.)
It's very much like what we shared in Overeaters Anonymous, and what I heard in therapy myself.
I thought both Tracey and Liz were not very nice people in this episode so I'm ready for either of them to go.
Back to the current episode, while I LOVE Washington DC, I thought all the games there made a dull episode compared to the previous week. Though I loved the bit in the White House garden and kitchen. Pretty cool!
Also I hated that Danny "stole" all those people for the first contest, people that another contestant had already recruited. I was surprised they didn't bring that up.
Peter
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tourproven
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Posted: 11 November 2009 04:48 pm |
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[This post contains *SPOILERS* if you haven't seen this weeks episode yet...]
Was it just me, or did Tracy always have the most 'unusual' expressions on her face? Almost cartoon-like. It's amazing how people decide if they like you or not. Tracy was playing the game like a truly competative person would, however she came across as a dislikable b*tch. I didn't like her either, but I feel for her that I would have perhaps acted similarly. There is much more to this show than losing weight for staying on there. You have to somehow come across as non-threatening and develop relations with everybody there.
This show really brings out one's true character. Last nights show showed the character (or lack thereof) of Rudy. It was absurd for him to have voted the way he did. No ethics, or common sense whatsoever. There was only one person who was allowed to vote for Shay as far as I'm concerned, and that was the team partner of Amanda, who was obviously very conflicted by who needs to be there, vs voting off your own teammate and roomate. For me, Liz is another dispicable person who maybe a gramdma, but is ruthless and would gut you like a fish without thinking twice about it, vendictive.
If you happen to watch the Jay Leno show that aired just after the Biggest Loser, it was great. They brought out Daniel and Shay. To my best guess, it had been about 2 and a half months since the day they were sent home. Daniel had further lost another 33 lbs., and Shay had lost another 50. Shay had lost 100 on the show to get down to 376, and now she said she's in the 320's and wants to set the record of 213 lbs lost by December. That Daniel has a lot of character and is a real straight shooter. He seems to really have his sh*t together. I found it funny the episode before last when he said that after seeing photos of himself at 454 lbs. he didn't even have a neck, and that his head looked like it was placed on top of his shoulders like a snowman. It doesnt get any more factual than that.
I think the act of losing weight and putting forth that much effort really brings out your inner self, and especially brings out emotion. I'm an emotional wreck during my own journey. I get emotional at the drop of a hat, and it seems that the Biggest Loser contestants are the same way.
I'd love to see Liz and Rudy get knocked off next. There's not too many in this group that I like. I would have to say I want Rebecca to win the whole thing.
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Peter
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Posted: 11 November 2009 04:59 pm |
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I think I posted above that I agree about Liz.
I think I'd like Danny to win. I like his story about giving up and now believing in himself again. And his goal is to be a good man to his family.
One thing I'll say in defense of Rudy is about what happened at the circus contest. Shay made him look really bad, like he broke his word. But I think Shay had it all wrong which makes me dislike her.
As I understood their agreement, it was that they would work together till the end. And I think Rudy did that. (Well, pretty much. He might have turned against her when there were three left rather than just the two?)
I got a little turned off about Rebecca when she started quitting at the gym. That's why I like Danny's never-give-up attitude.
Did anyone else notice that the men didn't take their shirts off for the weigh-in this week? I can guess why.
Peter
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tourproven
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Posted: 11 November 2009 05:31 pm |
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They seem to always stop taking the shirts off near the end. Is that because they're melting and don't want to show tons of loose skin?
Actually it was Rudy that made himself look bad at the circus, by going against his own agreement. She was right to be mad at him. Sean was someone who had character, he even sacraficed himself to let Shay stay there. Rudy is just pr*ck. I hope Sean ends up winning the 100K.
On another note: the notifier by email for replies to topics is not working at all for me on this site for about the last 2 weeks despite all my settings being correct, somethings wrong with the site.
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Peter
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Posted: 11 November 2009 05:35 pm |
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Okay then, what was Rudy and Shay's agreement?
I'll let Nir know about your problem. I think it's come up before.
Peter
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tourproven
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Posted: 11 November 2009 05:54 pm |
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In the big scheme of things, it didnt' matter. Rudy was going to win anyway when it got down to 3, but he should have kept his word and taken out Shay last.
That seemed like a pretty tough challenge as far as physical wear/tear on the body. I'll bet those contestants woke up pretty sore in the morning!
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AshIdiot
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Posted: 11 November 2009 11:11 pm |
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I thought it looked super fun, but even in my gymnast days I never could have done dozens and dozens of jumps. I loved how Danny was like doing somersalts, maybe he is younger at heart than most on the show.
Did anyone else find it ironic that Rudy is in the "old people team" when he's not even 30 yet? It's kind of sad these people are morbidly obese before they're even a third of the way through life BUT they are trying to nip it in the bud which I have to applaud them for. I do think Shay was overreacting during the challenge, being really bitter. I am so sick of her being like "I weigh so much more than everyone, I can't do that, I'm too big, blah blah blah" really? You can work out for like six hours a day but you can't jump through a hoop? Obviously making excuses got her where she was nine weeks ago but when is she gonna let it go and realize what she is physically capable of?
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