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buffalogal00 New Member
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Posted: 20 May 2005 12:28 am |
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In th last 2 years I've had a lot change in my life, I moved to St. Paul Mn, From Trempealeau Wi, Married the love of my life. Changed jobs from Managing a very busy bar to being a receptionist. I found out my mom has stage 4 cancer, so I had to sell my horses so I could afford to go see her once a month.
So I went from being very active to almost sedetary
I quit smoking 190 days ago, and I can no longer wear my clothes, very depressing coming into summer5 sizes larger than last year. I'm healthy as far as heart rate, and blood pressure. But I look-- and feel-- not so good. This has really brought me down, I sudstituted snacking for cigs, I'm glad I quit, but I really would like the extra 25lbs, off.
I guess I would like to know if anyone else has has success with this route, counciling for weight loss.
I'm trying to stay active, I'm a belly dancer, but I really hate the belly I have now, so I've been wussing out of performing, I am going to class tonight with one of the girls in my troop. I need to get through this, with my head up
I really needed to vent, Thanks
Buffalogal00:P
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peterinwa New Member
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Posted: 20 May 2005 02:01 am |
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I spent many years as a very active member of Overeaters Anonymous (see FAQ on eating disorders) and found both the 12-step program itself and the support from the other members very helpful. You could go to as many meeting as you like, and vent all you wanted! :)
Everyone in the group was going through some sort of problem dealing with food, and it's so helpful to be with others that understand you. I also felt like I was "in therapy" because so many of them were and they would share what they learned.
I found both individual and group counseling (OA) to be helpful.
Thanks for sharing,
Peter, caloriesperhour.com
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spensar Member
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Posted: 20 May 2005 04:48 pm |
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OA is a great group, but not for everyone. If it fits for you, great stuff.
Of the commercial programs, Weight Watchers is the best one according to Consumer's Reports - best approach and success for people sticking with it. For your situation, it could be really helpful.
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junebug Senior Member

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Posted: 20 May 2005 05:09 pm |
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WW does seem to help a large number of people, I lurk on their message boards to get recipe ideas, etc. What does surprise me however, is the number of people who regain the weight after a while.
I too underwent several major changes in my life 1 1/2 yrs ago, moved 1000 miles away to get married, went from being an active retail manager to a housewife, got preg, lost the baby but kept the 20plus lbs, etc. At Christmas I got on the scale and saw 146 instead of the usual low 120s I had been all my life and pretty much went into panic mode. I thought, I can meet the summer season fat, or lose this weight, either way, summer will be here in 6 months. I found this site and went to work. I read as much as I could about weight loss and formulated this plan: journal every single thing I eat and document my calories burned. I have lost 19 lbs and have 5 more to go before I am done. This will not work for everyone, but I am far too cheap to pay someone else to help me lose the weight if I can do it for free!!!
Congrats on quitting smoking. That is one thing I have not been able to kick. I am sure you are very proud of that accomplishment, as you should be. Good luck!!
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buffalogal00 New Member
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Posted: 20 May 2005 05:22 pm |
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I'm actually joining La weight loss. I believe right now I need to go in and get weighed, so I have a goal to achieve every week, just to get started. I really slipped in to some very bad habits, now I have to retrain myself. I can find ways to cheat, unless i know I have to tell some one. My goal is to get 15 lbs off buy July, I'd like to have all the extra weight off by September, because I have to perform with the Guild of Oriental dance at Ren Fest, Bellydance, I really don't want my belly, I want my cut abs. Thank you for all your responses.
Eve;)
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peterinwa New Member
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Posted: 20 May 2005 06:02 pm |
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Yes spensar, different programs work better for different people. And I have also heard great things about WW.
As junebug points out, a big part of the question (I think the most important part) is whether or not you will keep the weight off. LA Weight Loss or ANY diet will take the weight off. The question is what happens when you get it off.
Again, I'm not trying to promote OA just because it was great for me. But I would like to point out some differences.
-- OA is not about food, it's about solving the problem of why you overeat. They have no diet plan. It's a support group.
-- LA Weight Loss is a diet plan. Period. As far as I know.
-- I'm guessing WW is somewhere between the two. Since they do have group meetings, that would certainly give you support. And of course they have a diet plan, too.
Peter, caloriesperhour.com
P.S. In addition to discussing diet, I'm hoping the forum What Triggers Overeating? gets some good discussions going. I think answering that question is a big part of the solution.
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junebug Senior Member

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Posted: 20 May 2005 11:15 pm |
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| I never want to discourage anyone from attempting to lose weight or criticize methods to do so, please before joining any weight loss program, go to ripoff.com and do a search on the type of plan you might be considering, it is an eye opener for sure.
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Seragilo Senior Member

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Posted: 21 May 2005 04:52 pm |
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Hi There!
Kudos to you for wanting to make a lifestyle change, because thats what you have ot think about. If you decide to go on a diet you will more than likely gain all the weight back. Thats the first step one must realize when choosing to loose weight. Next is deciding how to get you to a healthier weight, and that should be between you and your body...maybe even with the help of your doctor. Research everything, if you decide to join a program make sure it incorperates food you like. Nothing worse joining a grorp of some sort only to find you hate half the food. That will guarentee you failure. Also if you join a program does it cost alot? Some charge an arm and a leg in their food. Plus you must...and that is a strong must add some form of exercise to your new lifestyle, it helps your body in every way!
I personally pick and chose what I eat. I follow the new food guide, watch my fat and calorie intake and thats about it. For me it works. I grab recipies that I like from any program. I have changed my life simply by cutting out foods high in sugar and fat, and replacing them with more healthy choices. Not to mention I work out 3 - 4 times a week.
Good luck to you and your new lifestyle.
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buffalogal00 New Member
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Posted: 23 May 2005 05:49 pm |
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Well I went in To La Weightloss, I was not impressed! I did veiw it as a rip off, and a scam, They advertise you use food in your kitchen, but than tell you you cannot replace the food items they have for you, they also advertise pay as you go, NO, they want 700.00+ dollars upfront,if you reach your goal weight by a certain time, than they give you 1/2 back. The counslor I spoke with was defensive and rude when I asked questions regarding this. I walked out and made my own plan. I'm doing very well at it. I've got my plan down, to the differnt workouts all week long. from Belly dance, weights, cardio,and yoga. I even get to spend more time with my husband because he is joining me in most of my workouts;).
Feeling good,
~buffalogal00
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peterinwa New Member
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Posted: 23 May 2005 06:39 pm |
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When my friend joined LA Weight Loss he didn't read the contract carefully to see that you only get some of your money back if you reach your weight goal AND you have been buying their energy bars. Don't know if it still works this way, but always read every word of a contract.
I have another friend that liked their program and lost his weight. Though he's put it back on.
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spensar Member
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Posted: 6 June 2005 05:34 pm |
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peterinwa wrote: Yes spensar, different programs work better for different people. And I have also heard great things about WW.
As junebug points out, a big part of the question (I think the most important part) is whether or not you will keep the weight off. LA Weight Loss or ANY diet will take the weight off. The question is what happens when you get it off.
Again, I'm not trying to promote OA just because it was great for me. But I would like to point out some differences.
-- OA is not about food, it's about solving the problem of why you overeat. They have no diet plan. It's a support group.
-- LA Weight Loss is a diet plan. Period. As far as I know.
-- I'm guessing WW is somewhere between the two. Since they do have group meetings, that would certainly give you support. And of course they have a diet plan, too.
Peter, caloriesperhour.com
I'd say OA is the best alternative. Then only thing is that when I checked out their website it appears to be largely faith based, which is not where everyone is at. Hence, the reference to WW.
Regarding WW, it provides an eating plan/framework with plenty of choices, but it uses regular food without the requirement to buy food like Jenny Craig or LA WL. The support is weekly meetings and weigh-ins, which are moral support and not really exploring why you overeat.
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 6 June 2005 07:11 pm |
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I'm not saying OA isn't "faith based" but I wouldn't choose those words because to my mind they imply religion.
Like all 12-Step programs, OA is based on the belief that you couldn't solve your problem yourself and needed to turn to a power greater than and other than yourself for help. This can be God or whatever form of higher power your religion (if you have one) believes in, or simply other members of OA... your support group. This is why I wouldn't say "faith based."
Some members fully participate and work through the 12 steps of the program; others simply learn and get help from attending the meetings. Listening to others and sharing if they choose to.
It's all very flexible and non-judgemental. A place where you can feel very safe and comfortable with others also struggling with food.
Peter
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littleduce New Member
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Posted: 7 June 2005 02:39 am |
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Junebug-
I agree with you completely about using caloriesperhour to lose weight for free! I counted, charted and planned for 5 months 3 years ago-lost 30-35 pounds (depending on the season!) and feel terrific! The mind set is not "diet", it's "what changes can I make in my life (eating and exercise) that I can live with?" This liefstyle change has gotten me through numerous life-changing and stressful situations without weight gain. Because of my learned eating/ exercise behavior, I do not have those diet fluctuations that so many other people have when "dieting". I do not diet. I live!
I know you will look terrific for the summer! Know that you will continue to look and feel great (FOR FREE!!!)! Congratulations!:D
Littleduce
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nee Senior Member
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Posted: 26 June 2005 01:35 am |
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Weight Watchers is great if you can stand to listen to a bunch of women who never lose any weight sit there and complain about how their husbands sabotage them, week after week after week. That's one reason I quit going to the meetings within a pound or two of goal - I'd just about burst into flames, listening to the same women bitch every week. (I was newly divorced myself.)
It's a good plan, though, and designed for life. I'm doing the 1990 (pre-points) plan right now, and it's working. I'm pretty sure I'd abuse the heck out of the current points system, but I know people who are succeeding on it.
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yohkos New Member

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Posted: 26 May 2006 08:01 pm |
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I agree with you that WW meetings suck. I found to be true what you said about the same complaints and it was annoying. I lasted two weeks. Could not stomach the meetings.
Kim
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Skipperdox Distinguished Member

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Posted: 26 May 2006 11:34 pm |
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I am in WW and really like the meetings. Sometimes I think it's the people in the meetings that are the problem. I know I like the Friday meeting more than the Wednesday one. This is partly because I prefer the one team leader, and partly because I know the people better in the Friday session.
WW does not specifically target psychological reasons for over-eating, but it does try to incorporate life changes that help you maintain weight loss. When you reach your goal weight, you can become a life member. You need to weigh in once a month to help you maintain your weight loss. You may attend any meeting anytime. This is all free once you become a life member. If you regain weight you can re-register anytime for free and then pay the weekly fee until you regain control and get back to your goal.
Weight watchers uses "tools" like visualization and assertion to help you accomplish your weight loss. These are all things you can take with you and use even if you quit. I also find a lot of support in the meetings, similar to this website. Weight watchers tries to make it clear that they are teaching healthy eating and a healthy lifestyle. The are not exclusively a weight-loss program. They teach weight-loss through creating a more sensible relationship with food.
What has made weight watchers successful for me has been my attitude. I was really ready to get in shape when I joined. I had already started to make some small sensible changes to improve my fitness level and eat healthier. Weight Watchers just brought all the puzzle pieces together.
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 27 May 2006 10:42 pm |
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nee wrote: Weight Watchers is great if you can stand to listen to a bunch of women who never lose any weight sit there and complain about how their husbands sabotage them, week after week after week.
OA teaches you not to try to change other people to solve your problems. But rather to take responsibility for yourself.
Meetings and discussions vary as the people do just like in WW, but the emphasis is not likely to be on what others are doing to you.
As long as these women blame their weight on their husbands, they are not likely to lose it.
Peter
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