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MidgeH Distinguished Member

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Posted: 19 January 2009 06:11 pm |
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Hi guys. So on the first 6 weeks following ETL you are supposed to have a couple of servings of fruit for breakfast. I do that and an hour later I'm starving! (I'm eating a mix of fruit - pineapple, blueberries, grapes, strawberries - some of each)
What else are you guys doing for breakfast that follows Dr. F's plan, or how do you make it from breakfast to lunch without snacking, since that is forbidden first 6 weeks?
ETS: I thought I would add the daily allotment of 1oz of nuts to breakfast. Is that a sound ETL thing to do?
Last edited on 19 January 2009 08:32 pm by MidgeH
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 19 January 2009 11:14 pm |
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I don't believe there are any restrictions. So breakfast can include unlimited raw and/or cooked non-starchy vegetables.
The fruit is 4 pieces minimum, not maximum, so I have no idea why you're limiting yourself to 2.
The maximum one cup of starchy vegetables or grains could for instance be oatmeal, if that is something you like for breakfast.
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Wonderwoman New Member

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Posted: 20 January 2009 01:48 pm |
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What if you workout between breakfast and lunch, wouldn't you need some form of protien? Also, are oats a good thing to add to a fruit smoothie in the morning? I don't put any milk or yogurt, just fruit and water.
Thanks!
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 20 January 2009 02:09 pm |
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Dr Fuhrman points out that for every 1000 calories of plant matter (vegetables, fruit, legumes, whole-grains, nuts and seeds) you'll likely get 30 to 40 grams of protein. Only a fruit-only plant-based diet will lack sufficient protein. If you have protein at breakfast and lunch, I don't see why you need more protein in the middle. (and yes, I weight train. 4 times a week.)
Oats are fine but just remember that, in the 6 week plan starchy vegetables and whole-grains (and oats are whole-grains) are limited to one serving (one cup cooked - that will be less than one cup of dry oats, not sure how much though). The idea being that for weight loss, non-essentials are stripped out. Calorie for calorie, whole-grains are a poor source of micronutrients (vegetables, fruits and legumes beat them by a mile) so whole grains are either eliminated or restricted to one serving (so long as they don't appear to interfere with fat loss)
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MidgeH Distinguished Member

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Posted: 20 January 2009 08:28 pm |
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I knew you'd have an answer for me Nir. I must have read that wrong that for the first 6 weeks you are supposed to have fruit for breakfast. Maybe that was just a suggested menu.
In any case, as a diabetic I'm having some trouble in eating that much fruit at one time (yes, I guess I could load up on just citrus, but no thanks). I had my 1 oz of nuts today with my large bowl of fruit (which is probably closer to 3 or 4 servings then 2) and it was a little better. I should experiment with veggies or beans for breakfast with the fruit. I mean, really, what's the point if I don't break out of old, unhealthy thinking?
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Wonderwoman New Member

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Posted: 20 January 2009 08:35 pm |
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| I am diabetic also. Do you have to take alot more insulin at breakfast since you are eating several servings of fruit?
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MidgeH Distinguished Member

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Posted: 20 January 2009 09:27 pm |
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I control my diabetes through diet (i was on a pill but stopped) so no. However, there is a whole school of thought that naturally occuring sugar, especially when in the presence of a good dose of fiber, is not an issue for diabetics.
4 servings at one time still seems a little steep for diabetics though, so ask your doctor!
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Wonderwoman New Member

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Posted: 20 January 2009 10:20 pm |
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I am a Type 1, and I try really hard not to take any more insulin than I have to. I see my diabetes educator in two weeks, so I'll ask her what she thinks. Do you just eat a couple of pieces of fruit or do you make smoothies?
Thanks!
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MidgeH Distinguished Member

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Posted: 20 January 2009 10:31 pm |
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With type 1 my guess is that they will tell you to eat no more than maybe a single orange or serving of strawberries (the best diabetic fruit) but it's good that you are asking.
No, I eat the fruit. 1) I want to chew 2) I think it's easy to get carried away with smoothies, just like with juice and 3) they taste like a really disappointing shake to me. Just my hang ups. Plus who wants to clean the blender? Ha
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50lbs2lose Distinguished Member

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Posted: 21 January 2009 03:55 pm |
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my friend who is hypoglycemic ha a tough time only eating fruit until I started sprouting lentils for. Talk aboout protein! Now she doesn't even need them but I like keeping them going !
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Wonderwoman New Member

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Posted: 21 January 2009 04:50 pm |
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| I had an orange and banana for breakfast this morning and didn't have to take extra insulin. I ended up taking half the insulin I normaly do and my blood sugars have been fine all morning. I do drink a cup of black coffee in the mornings even though I know it isn't part of his plan. Maybe in time I'll be able to give it up.
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freshfig New Member

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Posted: 30 April 2011 10:04 am |
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If you're ok with using your allotment of grains in the morning, I love cooked quinoa with a splash of soy milk, mixed with berries and cinnamon. Yum! Another option is to have some beans - I don't mind eating savory foods in the morning, and I find protein fills me up much better than just fruit or a smoothie.
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