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Sassykat Distinguished Member

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Posted: 27 June 2007 05:56 pm |
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Since I have been feeling unwell at times now that I am eating healthier and trying to somewhat follow Eat To Live I felt it important that this be addressed.
I didn't know what was causing my ill feelings and at one point thought about giving up this endeavor of ETL because I thought maybe it wasn't truly for me, if I felt ill.
Then after further reading I came across the explanation for this on page 164 under Headaches, Hypoglycemia and Hunger. Dr. Fuhrman listed every single symptom I had! He says it has very much to do with detoxification.
These are true withdrawals and they will get better as the body is healing itself.
When you have food in your stomache, your body is busy with digestion and so you feel better, but when you have gone without food, that is when your body is occupied with the healing process, or better able to detox.
This will pass and of course and you will feel better than ever if you can keep up the program and persevere through to the recommended 6 week initial eating plan.
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 1 July 2007 02:49 am |
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Good post!
I write about that in my Tutorial:
Just as our bodies can suffer withdrawal from caffeine, they can also suffer withdrawal from substances such as the excess salt, sugar and fat found in unhealthy, highly processed foods. When this happens we might think that we feel hunger, but it is actually our body's desire to satisfy our addictions.
But then I got the info from ETL, too.
Peter
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Sassykat Distinguished Member

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Posted: 1 July 2007 04:21 am |
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They should educate kids in school about this the way they teach them about the off balance "food pyramid". Really, I'd say most people have no clue what effect all this junk food has on their bodies. And most doctors are of no help. I never hear doctors talk about food and nutrition. (Even the CARDIOLOGIST!) They always pull out their prescription pads though, even when you know you are not going to fill it because it's just for cough syrup for the kids because they have a virus. Sorry, I shouldn't get going on that topic I guess.
If Dr. Fuhrman's information is true, then we should be educating our society so that people can make a more informed choice when they go shopping and out to eat. Nobody wants to be overweight and have diseases and feel exhausted all the time. And we do get brain washed by the propaganda, "Milk does a body good" and, "Be sure and get your 5 vegetables and fruits" I think society would be effected if they were told about the withdrawals from not eating the junk and the diseases that are associated with not eating vegetables and fruits. No one truly knows the impact, which is why it is so easy to eat according to our cravings.
Sorry about not taking better notes on things you have posted, Peter. You are very good about informing everyone and helping everyone. Sometimes I do read something, but then I forget about it, until it happens to me that is. I guess I'm like a child in that way. Now if we just had some flyers to hand out... We could really annoy people and they would be wondering what we were trying to sell.
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 1 July 2007 08:38 am |
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No need to apologize!
I don't think they'd read the flyers. People have to want the information and won't usually accept it unless they go looking for it. Though you are corrrect that we should be teaching nutrition in our schools. Also doctors have very little training in nutrition.
Doctors are generally much more interested in treating disease with drugs than in preventing it in the first place. Well, I can't read their minds or know what's in their hearts, but that's certainly what happens in practice.
Peter
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Scoobees Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 July 2007 07:51 pm |
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SassyKat - thank you so much for this post! I have been going through all sorts of 'weird feelings' and general headaches, lightheadedness, tiredness, etc but am only on chapter 5. I so appreciate you pointing out where this is discussed in ETL. I will definitely check this out...thank goodness I am just not going nuts or something.
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Sassykat Distinguished Member

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Posted: 3 August 2007 07:12 pm |
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Sorry I haven't posted Scoobees. Have been trying to consolidate bills and life has been stressful.
How have you been doing and feeling? I felt so bad I was unable to continue with the strict recommendations, but I'll have to say, that I have not had hardly any exercise and in just adding in lots more fruits and veggies I have continued to lose weight in small amounts. I begin each day with 2 fruits for breakfast, and if I am home and am able I make a salad for lunch and open a can of beans and eat half the can to help fill me up and give me energy until dinner. Then again if I am able I will have salad and beans again for dinner. Realistically I can usually accomplish the entire day of this about 3 times a week. The rest of the week we end up eating other foods for lunch and dinner.
I wanted to let you know there are huge rewards even if you can't follow the plan to the T. You can still lose weight and gain health benefits if you add an occasional snack or a free day, or tailor it to something that does work for you. Adding fruits and veggies can have an amazing impact on a person!
Best of luck to you! When I get a chance I'll have to check out your journal. Right now, I've got to go and referee my kids!
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Scoobees Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 August 2007 02:32 am |
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Thanks so much for your reply Sassykat! I've been feeling much better lately...more like my old self. The initial few days I felt so awful that I wanted to quit. I was just trying to ride out the storm.
It's fantastic to know that you are continuing to lose weight without following the program to a T. There are a few modifications I have made for myself, too. I add in a whey shake sometimes...a chicken breast...sugar free jello , etc. Nothing completely crazy or anything...yet. Although, when I drove past the fast food restaurant today - the aroma was particularly alluring for some reason!!!  It was all I could do to hit the gas!
Thanks for your advice - it's very appreciated!
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Mountain Mike Distinguished Member

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Posted: 21 April 2008 05:13 am |
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Any updates from any of you on the ETL plan?
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 22 April 2008 01:42 am |
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I'm doing fine though more than being on the plan I'd say my eating is HIGHLY influenced by it. I also never use any of the recipes listed in the book... I mostly just eat the ingredients.
I'm having some form of meat (chicken or fish) most days of the week, which is allowed on the plan. Though I'm working on cutting back.
I have eggs sometimes, and a half glass of milk every night. But I'm slowly cutting back on those, too. I haven't had cheese in the house for months!
As always, my problem eating this was is losing weight too fast. So I'm having to learn to eat more and eat more often. Both are very natural for me when I'm eating junk, but not so much when I'm eating healthy.
As to the topic, I've never had a problem with withdrawal.
Peter
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cportwine Member

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Posted: 2 May 2008 10:15 pm |
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When I first started dieting three years ago. There were times I couldn't sleep cause I would get these bad headache and I would have hunger pains. Sometimes, (I have to admit) I even cried.
It was like having something that you were addicted to taken away. But, I made it.
Now if I could just do that with smoking, I would get a clean bill of health.
Also, about the doctors. I think it's horrible that they don't offer more support of curing decease's through food choices. My doctor put me on medication for high cholesterol without even offering me the opportunity to lower it by my diet and exercise.
I had a really bad reaction to the medicine and kind of took matters into my own hands. First I avoided my doctor and quit the meds.
When I couldn't avoid her any longer, I begged her to let me try on my own for a few months. She finally agreed.
I think now, I could teach her a few things about how to eat when you have cholesterol problems- and I don't make the big bucks she does.
It should be a requirement for doctors to be train in nutrition. My doctor is not a big fan of vitamins either. Which I think is stupid.
Maybe all doctors are not like that, but mine is.
Last edited on 2 May 2008 10:16 pm by cportwine
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cportwine Member

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Posted: 2 May 2008 10:19 pm |
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Peter wrote: I'm doing fine though more than being on the plan I'd say my eating is HIGHLY influenced by it. I also never use any of the recipes listed in the book... I mostly just eat the ingredients.
I'm having some form of meat (chicken or fish) most days of the week, which is allowed on the plan. Though I'm working on cutting back.
I have eggs sometimes, and a half glass of milk every night. But I'm slowly cutting back on those, too. I haven't had cheese in the house for months!
As always, my problem eating this was is losing weight too fast. So I'm having to learn to eat more and eat more often. Both are very natural for me when I'm eating junk, but not so much when I'm eating healthy.
As to the topic, I've never had a problem with withdrawal.
Peter
I applaud you, I could never live without cheese.
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miss katz Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 May 2008 05:56 am |
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wow I never thought of it this much. Detoxification and withdrawal, but I do feel it when I don't drink diet soda. Hopefully I can do it one day and see if i would feel better eating something else other than msg and caffeine. I depend a lot on fast food. It's my favorite. I have eaten healthier things before like oatmeal and tunafish, but I don't remember a big difference, then again that was a long time ago. I have become a creature of habit, stuck in my routine. I wonder if what I eat is affecting my sleep. My sleep habits are horrible.
Last edited on 4 May 2008 05:57 am by miss katz
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