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missfit
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 Posted: 12 April 2008 10:12 pm
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Interesting point, maybe you have given me something to think about. Referring to the isolation  bit about the disease. Thank you.

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 Posted: 13 April 2008 04:04 am
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Saturday

Angela is running her 4th London Marathon tomorrow (Sunday) morning so today she's supposed to be resting! She "talked" us through Combat, walking up and down the stage rather than jumping and punching. During Pump Dave was on stage demonstrating. (Dave and Marie are back after an absence of weeks - a death in their family). Carol is now on the first leg of her experiment: ketosis on 600 calories.

Mum and I bought a 6kg crate of tomatos from the market stall for £2, going halves. I froze mine as soon as I could and was having my first tomato-based smoothie by 5.20pm.

Looking at my numbers, bananas are making over half my calories for a second day in a row. Carbs make 413g carbs, indeed my current 'default day' appears to correlate with Lyle McDonald's idea of carb-loading (it is about 8.7g per kilo of LBM, his guidelines are variously either 10g or 12..16g per kilo of LBM; though he would also advocate more protein).

Eating raw vegetables is becoming more of a habit:


Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=227
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Combat, 60 min Body Pump. 2 hours.
Shopping: £1 tomatos(3.1kg). £1
Veg: 15.9% [318kcal, 1639g]:  tomato105 onion-raw35 cauliflower-boiled27 fine-whole-beans-raw24 broccoli-boiled23 stringless-beans-raw22 mushroom-common-raw22 leek-baby-raw18 cabbage-boiled17 courgette-raw17 celery-raw7
Fruit: 56.8% [1135kcal, 1195g]:  banana1135
Starchy: 25.1% [502kcal, 771g]:  potato-baked203 sweet-potato-boiled142 carrot-raw80 parsnip-boiled77
Nuts: 1.4% [29kcal, 4g]:  brazil-nut-HB29
Animals: 0.6% [11kcal, 3g]:  banana-flavour-whey-powder11
Rubbish: 0.3% [5kcal, 3g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [3616g] 2000, 50.1g protein (10.0%), 16.5g fat (7.4%), 412.9g carb (82.6%), 2.86g saturated fat, 54.62g fibre, 0.23g sodium. 16 is 0.8%

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 Posted: 13 April 2008 10:19 pm
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Sunday

AA meeting: 27 people, twice as long as OA meetings and started with a chair by a person who had been to two of our OA meetings as a visitor. There were also two other OAs in the room: one an alcoholic, another like myself just visiting. On the one hand I know I am not an alcoholic and there were many stories I could not relate to. Yet nevertheless I am an addicted person and this trait touches many areas of my life; insanity and alcohol have certainly come together - there are people and social situations that I make bareable to myself by using alcohol. As far as having 'that first drink' - forget it: I never have just drink, I only drink to get drunk so my first gambit is either 4 shots or 6 shots, depending on the situation. I had my last drink on March 14th - so I don't drink every day. When I was told that I'd have to give up alcohol for a while if I embark upon step study, it worried me that drink won't be an option if some situation presented itself. I find bars, nightclubs and house parties the most difficult to manage without a drink. It is funny I feel this way because I did not drink until I was 29, managing to be in those situations just fine. Somebody took a meeting list and marked on it which meetings were 'open' and 'closed' but this wound me up because one meeting that several people have told me was an open meeting was marked as closed: was this an honest mistake or does he not want me to come to that meeting? I am so easy to get going. Cycling there and back was quite an effort, at one point it was too hot for the clothing I picked, for 20 minutes there was a bizzard and my bottoms and socks got thoroughly soaked.

I had a 'food challenge' today, following a low-carb pattern, to remind myself of what it is like. Calories at 1200 and carbs at around 20%, in line with Ultimate Diet 2.0 recommendations; I was aiming for protein to fall between 54g and 72g so it appears there was no need for that portion of chicken breast after all. I know that most people would consider 2592g (5.7lb) to be a lot of food, but I felt restricted (curiously carbs proved more restrictive than calories). Carbs were 62.7g, about 1/6 to 1/7 of typical intake - and around 1/3 of it coming from 580g of tomatos I used for smoothies. After about 6 days when nuts and seeds were not a major component of food intake, today they had to make up over half of all calories. Saturated fat kept under 10g. I don't believe I am glycogen-depleted after one day. Tomorrow I'm going to go back to high-carb high-calorie (2000) eating.

7 day food shopping totals: 0 + 0 + 0.26 + 0 + 1.56 + 1.00 + 0.25 = £3.07

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=228
Exercise: [AM] 90 min cycle to AA in Bletchley, [PM] 45, min Body Step, 60 min Body Pump. 3.25 hours.
Shopping: 25p spring-greens(700g). £0.25
Veg: 38.5% [462kcal, 2400g]:  cauliflower-boiled121 tomato99 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled93 brussel-sprouts-NETTO44 fine-whole-beans-raw33 broccoli-boiled23 celery-raw20 cabbage-boiled15 courgette-raw14
Nuts: 50.7% [608kcal, 102g]:  cashew-raw-ndat230 peanuts-salted-sp133 almonds86 brazil-nut-HB80 peanuts-dry-roasted52 sesame-seed-JS29
Animals: 10.0% [120kcal, 82g]:  chicken-breast-grilled50 herring-grilled50 banana-flavour-whey-powder11 semi-skimmed-milk9
Rubbish: 0.8% [9kcal, 7g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon5 coffee-instant4
Totals: [2592g] 1200, 82.5g protein (27.5%), 68.9g fat (51.6%), 62.7g carb (20.9%), 9.67g saturated fat, 48.07g fibre, 0.46g sodium. 129 is 10.8%

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 Posted: 14 April 2008 11:54 am
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Found some videos at http://www.vegandonelight.com/

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 Posted: 15 April 2008 12:16 pm
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Monday

The low-carb day yesterday just was not fun. It left me feeling hungry or unsatisfied. I guess I'm used to more than 2.5kg of food. Being driven by numbers also reminded me of morbidlemon's recent brush with CRON-o-meter!

As the time was coming up to 9.45am we were all wondering whether she would make it - but she did. Angela was wearing her 'Finisher' T-shirt and medal, having completed yesterday's London Marathon in 3 hours and 53 minutes, which is apparently quite good for a 53-year-old. This was her 4th marathon. She could barely climb onto the Spin stage (in order to change CDs and get mic'd up, and learning her lesson from last year she did not attempt to cycle with us.

At home, the eat2live list turned me on to some lecture videos (see above) and from there I went onto other websites for other lectures. For food I was targetting the highest-carb starchy vegetables that I could not eat yesterday. Having taken 2 days to eat about a kilo of tomatos, I ate the other 2 kilos in one day and once more I'm down to bananas as my only fruit. After a nap headed out for my combat class. After  Shey's combat decided that I would benefit from another class so (unusually) stayed for Kim's step as well. I am feeling down at the moment so this is escapism.

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=229
Exercise: [AM] 45 min Spin class, [PM] 60 min Body Combat, 60 min Body Step. 2.45 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 24.0% [480kcal, 2289g]:  tomato320 beetroot-boiled92 onion-raw55 stringless-beans-raw13
Fruit: 41.5% [829kcal, 873g]:  banana829
Starchy: 29.3% [586kcal, 1420g]:  casserole-vegetables:swede-carrot-babypotato-leek-onion208 potato-baked155 carrot-raw130 parsnip-boiled92
Nuts: 3.1% [62kcal, 10g]:  cashew-raw-hb37 brazil-nut-HB25
Animals: 1.7% [33kcal, 9g]:  banana-flavour-whey-powder33
Rubbish: 0.5% [11kcal, 6g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon11
Totals: [4607g] 2000, 54.0g protein (10.8%), 20.4g fat (9.2%), 400.1g carb (80.0%), 2.98g saturated fat, 64.57g fibre, 0.17g sodium. 44 is 2.2%

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 Posted: 15 April 2008 02:56 pm
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a few things-
first, i wated that video. it completely struck me.  i work at a drug store and it is just amazing how many people are on meds for diabetes, or on meds in general (some people have 8-10 'scripts picked up in one day!), and i just know that they don't have to be paying for those meds if they would just eat better.  it makes me both sad and angery.  nobody likes to hear that they should change thier eating habits, but really, then don't complain about paying for meds!  why can't the doctors prescribe a healthy life style?????

second, i am about 1/4 through the Lyle article and i love how he explins everything that is necessary in detail and still leaves out stuff that i really don't need to know.  very interesting stuff thus far!

third- yes, low carb days are not cool. i actually hate them.  i am wondering are you basically no carb?  do you eat any greens?  i find that i get a bit more full with spinach salads.  totally unsatsified psychologically and lacking energy completely, but generally full.

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 Posted: 15 April 2008 03:04 pm
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zenobia wrote: i am wondering are you basically no carb?  do you eat any greens?


Sure, the vegetables I ate on my attempted low-carb day: (vegetable, calories, grams)

tomato 99 582g
spring-greens-cabbage-boiled 93 465g
cauliflower-boiled 121 432g
celery-raw 20 286g
brussel-sprouts-NETTO 44 244g
fine-whole-beans-raw 33 132g
broccoli-boiled 23 96g
cabbage-boiled 15 83g
courgette-raw 14 78g


Total was 2400g (over 5lb) but I did not feel satisfied, I usually eat more.

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 Posted: 15 April 2008 03:25 pm
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oh yeah, i suppose i could have checked that out in your post about yesterday.  heh...

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 Posted: 15 April 2008 10:20 pm
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Tuesday

Before pump was talking about muscle and fat with a couple of women. In a round-about way I was trying to say to one of them that muscle isn't bulky and even if she was as strong as me she should not be larger than me - but I didn't have the nerve to ask about her food...

I think my internet service provider is annoyed at me for watching too many videos as it appears You-Tube is no longer working for me. Never mind I'm sure that will sort itself out in a few days.

An hour before film time went for a walk in the indoor shopping centre, extended it to Sainsbury's where I picked up 3.3kg of pears for £1.05. Went home to put that away then met Phil at the lobby of the Odean. We were about to go in and the guy told us we were at the wrong cinema. Never mind that I asked Phil on two separate ocassions which cinema it was in, and he obviously never checked! Yesterday he was late for a film at Cineworld and almost was not allowed to go in so we were worried. We ran and ran. We got into the film 4 minutes late, luckily the staff did not say a thing. The film, 'In Bruge' was a wry comedy about hit men. Very wry. I was munching on 329g of raw carrots during the film (119 calories), phil was demolishing a 250g bag of Jelly Babies (920 calories).

If I'm getting 1150 calories from bananas (which let's face it, are not the most filling of foods) then I guess I am mostly filled up by the other 850 calories: so why was I not content on Sunday when I attempted a low-carb day? On February 20th I relaxed my previous rule about getting 100g of protein per day. Today I've had the smallest amount yet, 42.12 grams, which is actually less than the RDA (RDA works out 54 x 0.8 = 43.2g).  RDA has a safety margin though. Fat was low and carbs sky-high. Only 5 calories (0.25%) from animals+rubbish, another record.

Should I attempt another low-carb day, I'll actually make it a moderate-carb day with a 100g carb limit, as there is no point in feeling deprived. We'll have to see how I feel.

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=230
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 105p pears(3.3kg). £1.05
Veg: 13.2% [264kcal, 875g]:  beetroot-boiled121 stringless-beans-raw56 leek-baby-raw55 onion-raw17 cabbage-boiled15
Fruit: 57.5% [1150kcal, 1211g]:  banana1150
Starchy: 28.0% [560kcal, 1296g]:  carrot-raw370 parsnip-boiled102 potato-baked88
Nuts: 1.0% [20kcal, 6g]:  cocoa-powder20
Rubbish: 0.3% [5kcal, 3g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [3392g] 2000, 42.1g protein (8.4%), 13.1g fat (5.9%), 428.4g carb (85.7%), 3.83g saturated fat, 65.14g fibre, 0.22g sodium. 5 is 0.3%

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 Posted: 16 April 2008 04:20 am
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interesting that you should mention trading in a low carb day for a moderate carb.  i am really looking into a moderate carb diet, in general.  maybe mix things up every now and then wth low carb or high carb, but i think the key is to find the right ratio for the individual- i.e. getting in enough food but not too much, feeling satisfied as in both full and being able to eat the things you want (assuming that it is fruit, starchy veggies, and a bit of whole grains is what you are craving), and soemthing a person can generally live with.  i am finding that it is more difficult than i thought it would be.

you say you want a 100 gram of carb limit- so 400 cals from carbs, yes?  what sort of ratio does that work out to be when considering protien and fats in the mix?- just curious for my own experimentation... are you basing that off of your 2000 cals?

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 Posted: 16 April 2008 07:38 am
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Going by Ultimate Diet 2.0, I should be cutting my calories down to 1200 for maximum weight loss, or keep them up at 2000 (or create a 10% deficit: making it 1800) if my objective is mass gain with minimal fat gain.

Given the way I chose to work out, my main interest is still getting lean, so that means fitting it within a 1200 calorie diet. So that caps carbs at 33% max; I will also set proteins at a minimum of 50g (minimum 17%) and maximum probably 25% (because of my concerns of over-consuming protein). Protein + fat together will be a minimum of 67% together. I'm giving it another go today

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 Posted: 16 April 2008 10:36 am
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wow, 1200 seems so low!  interesting...  especially when carbs are 33% of your intake.  seems like that would leave you feeling unsatisfied if you are looking at the mass of the food. 

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 Posted: 16 April 2008 10:40 am
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If I was a bigger person, it would translate to an even bigger deficit. Lyle says: half your maintenance calories or 1200, whichever is higher. I'm hoping to eat more than Sunday and feel less deprived. On Sunday I was only eating 63g carbs.

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 Posted: 17 April 2008 12:47 am
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Wednesday

Had some cabbage and headed out to a step class, chatting to Carol about her low-carb experiment beforehand. Afterwards got on with online things, had a large salad (about 100g each of 4 raw ingredients).



When I was done with my online things (around 12.30pm) was feeling bored. Took my MP3 player for a very gentle walk around the shops. Toyed with learning some computer skills but didn't get far with that idea. Before long it was time to head for combat.  Before Combat over-heard that gym participant Sam is taking her Exercise To Music exam in June and will then be thinking about BTS. Combat only started at 7.10pm which was a shame as I left at 7.45pm (just after Mu Ti) to make my 2nd AA meeting (a 1.5 hour meeting where again I knew 2 cross-adicted OAs - different ones from Sunday)



Just after 10pm mum showed up with some fantastic shopping from Tesco, very welcome in the current shopping 'draught', notably lots of apples :apple:, some other fruits, a good quantity of swede (one my favourites) and some 'soup mix' (assorted diced starchy vegetables). Shopping weighed 31.83kg (70lb) and cost £6.15 (19.3p per kilo). At 1am am done with eating but still dealing with my shopping.

My low-carb day went ahead without a hitch. Actually didn't feel the need to go up to 100g of carbs, ended up with numbers similar to Sunday (carbs 60g = 20%, protein = 19%, fat = 61%). Despite my food weighing less (just 2 kilos) I didn't have a problem with it - and enjoyed eating 850 calories from a variety of nuts and seeds (about 5 oz). Nevertheless I'm looking forward to a high-carb fruit-rich :apple: day tomorrow! I can see myself doing low-carb days when low-carb vegetables are in stock, but I can't see myself motivated to eat this way for the majority of the time - I'm not /that/ motivated to get leaner. My BMI is 19.6. I'm lean enough. And it looks like I have ectomorph genetics, allowing me to maintain on a diet with 85% of calories from carbohydrates.

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=231
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 30 min Body Combat. 1.5 hours.
Shopping:
240p apples-braeburn(14.8kg)
135p veg-soup(4.5kg)
102p swede(6.6kg)
40p pomelo(2.1kg)
20p pineapple(400g)
17p apples-empire(800g)
13p cabbage-pointed(420g)
12p melon-and-grapes(200g)
11p apples-golden(1.2kg)
10p sweet-crunchy(370g)
10p mini-cucumber(200g)
5p mango(240g)
£6.15
Veg: 28.2% [339kcal, 1868g]:  cabbage-boiled123 fine-whole-beans-raw74 leek-baby-raw67 courgette-raw53 celery-raw21
Nuts: 71.1% [853kcal, 144g]:  peanuts-salted-sp268 cashew-raw-ndat204 almonds82 brazil-nut-HB71 sunflower-seed-hulled66 monkey-nuts47 peanuts-redskin-raw34 sesame-seed-JS32 pumpkin-seed-hb29 peanuts-dry-roasted21
Rubbish: 0.7% [8kcal, 6g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon5 coffee-instant3
Totals: [2018g] 1200, 56.3g protein (18.8%), 81.5g fat (61.1%), 60.4g carb (20.1%), 13.12g saturated fat, 41.13g fibre, 0.53g sodium. 8 is 0.7%

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 Posted: 17 April 2008 07:27 am
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Nir wrote: Sunday
'that first drink' - forget it: I never have just drink, I only drink to get drunk so my first gambit is either 4 shots or 6 shots,

Is this a form on binge behaviour.?  I am starting to realise that I am a binge person myself.  I barely drink since I have started watching my calories and I am happy to go to a party and not drink.  But when I do drink, 99% of the time I go overboard.  It's like either all or nothing.  I have gotten to the stage that it is much less hassle to not drink because it's not nice being drunk and that happens very quickly lately because I don't drink slowly, I will wolf it down.  That is something I also do very easily with food.  I eat way too fast. Is this also a sign of being a binge person? What is your thoughts on this?

 

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 Posted: 17 April 2008 07:32 am
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on the one hand, they are both binge behaviours, and both could potentially indicate problems

however, you see people who binge on either alcohol or on food who do not have a problem (for example those people who binge on food during holiday meals, but eat normally the rest of the time)

in my case my binge-eating is an eating disorder, but my binge-drinking is controlled enough to fall under the alcoholism radar

going to those AA meetings shows me that some had to finish that pint or bottle just the way I used to finish the entire packet of cookies/chocolates/etc, equally helpless, equally remorseful afterwards

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 Posted: 17 April 2008 07:42 am
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Thanks Nir, definately something I need to look into and work on. :confused::smile:

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Actually I even had the same problem when I used to smoke, I had to finish the whole packet.  If I only had 6 smokes for the day I would make them last, but if I had a carton in the cupboard I would happily chainsmoke.  I guess it also adds up to a control issue.  My solution seems to be that if I want to be in control I must just not have it in my environment.  I wont go out of my way to go buy sweets/alcohol/ciggy's etc but if they are at home(excluding ciggy's now. I conquered the addiction) I will have them.  Although I just realised, I can have alcahol at home or around me and I wont drink it, but if I have decided to drink which I only do when socialising or eating out then I go overboard.  Oh boy! Do I confuse me or what?:confused::shock:  I don't think I am addicted to ciggy's or alcohol because I have to make a mental decision to have them before I have them, but when I do I can't seem to stop.  Chocolates though I cannot say no to, so if they are in the house I end up eating them.

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Interesting, I don't think that a smaller quantity of a trigger food (such as chocolate) is going to make me ration it and make it last longer for me.

Thursday

Only got 4 hours of sleep; headed out to pump where I felt reasonably strong (but I still can't bench a 22.5kg bar for the entire 5 minute non-stop set, something I've been tring to do for a week or two now). Foodwise focused on enjoying a 'normal' (for me) high-carb day. A 1200 calorie day is a 40% restriction compared to a 2000 calorie day but 60g carbs is an 85% reduction compared to a 420g carb day, is it any wonder I feel deprived?

In the afternoon mum showed up - having rearranged her fridge she had some gifts for me (some of which might be suitable should I do another low-carb day): 1kg mushrooms 750g leeks 600g brussel sprouts 570g kiwi fruit 400g cauliflower 300g broccoli. That's 3.62kg of gifts. About an hour later she returned to sell me 1.3kg of celery for 50p.

I've asked somebody from OA to give me a lift to a meeting in another town. This did not happen for two weeks (they were unwell one week and had work commitments on another) but they came through today. About 20 minutes late picking me up due to the marvels of Sat-Nav and an unfamiliar car, but we were only 5 minutes late and, given that they were the arranged 'chair' for this meeting they kindly waited for us. For a new meeting it was well attended (10) and has a character all of its own. I felt I had a bunch of stuff to share, wavering about whether the steps are for me, feeling very low this week, tinkering with my food plan, what attending AA meetings was like. However my body was conspiring against me: I became tearful and knew I couldn't address the group. Also I didn't want to lower the tone of the meeting which was 99% recovery talk, miles away from the recent AA experience. In a twist I was also recognised by a person I used to associate with a few years ago in a different context, we had a chat after the meeting, they have freshly completed their steps (not done on food or alcohol but on people, places and things) and shared their ESH (and I eventually managed to talk through my tears). Actually I don't think I have been in this tearful state for about a year and a half. I wonder what would have happened had I not had the privilege of attending that particular meeting.

At home after the meeting still had a third of my calories to get through and perhaps unwisely went on the 'heavy' side (the evening meal weighed about a kilo) and this has lead to less than perfect sleep patterns tonight too.

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=232
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 50p celery(1.3kg). £0.50
Veg: 4.4% [88kcal, 416g]:  sweet-crunchy-salad:iceberg-redcabbage-carrot-tesco69 onion-raw18
Fruit: 74.2% [1485kcal, 3120g]:  banana437 apple275 pear-funsize-tesco193 grapefruit179 pineapple167 mango89 kiwi-fruit86 grapes25 galia-melon19 cantelope-melon14
Starchy: 16.9% [338kcal, 1457g]:  veg-soup-mix:carrot-leek-parsnip-celery151 swede-boiled86 potato-baked69 parsnip-boiled32
Nuts: 2.1% [43kcal, 6g]:  brazil-nut-HB29 almonds14
Animals: 2.2% [45kcal, 12g]:  banana-flavour-whey-powder45
Rubbish: 0.1% [3kcal, 2g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon3
Totals: [5013g] 2000, 43.9g protein (8.8%), 15.9g fat (7.2%), 420.2g carb (84.0%), 2.17g saturated fat, 78.17g fibre, 0.25g sodium. 48 is 2.4%

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 Posted: 19 April 2008 12:49 pm
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Friday

So that's two nights of only getting around 4 hours of sleep, not good. Though on the positive side woke up feeling less down than the previous day. Enjoyed my step class (being one of the 3 'stuborn' participants to not lower their step for the speed-step track but then grateful that no-one opted to do the final-peak on double raisers as I would have then had to match them :smile:) then came home, 'greeted' by 4.2kg of swede mum was selling on for 40p. Swede takes a long time to cook and the microwave oven was busy non-stop for hours. A 2nd 'carb-up' day and I was so focused on my fruits and starchy vegetables that I 'forgot' to eat any non-starchy vegetables - I got zilch, a far cry from the 900g target set by Dr F. As a result at one point it looked like my protein intake would be quite low and I had a turkey portion. One of the things I spent time on was reading about the Kimkins diet and the fallout towards the end of last year when it transpired that the woman behind this plan was still obese and that this 'low-fat Atkins' involved so few calories (e.g. 500) that some people had problems like hair falling out.

By 5.35pm, just before setting of to OA, i have had 1162 calories and 2932 grams of food. It was only at this point, with a bike ride ahead of me, that I became aware of just how uncomfortably stuffed I was feeling. I was still feeling that way around 9pm when I got back. There were 9 of us at this, my home meeting; That phrase now means something, having attended two AA and one OA meetings in the preceeding 6 days. The only other meetings I have previously attended were online OA meetings. I did actualy share (first time in 7 days) though was concious of being the only one or perhaps 2 to share from the non-recovery perspective. I did share how odd it felt to have this week had a couple of 1200-calorie days (as per Lyle McDonald's ultimate diet 2.0 recipe) which just feels wrong given that this takes me 200 calories below my unadjusted RMR, something I would never tell any lean person to do. At 7.30pm when the meeting finished I opted to relax and stay for the post-meeting chat rather than sprint homewards to catch an AA meeting. One OA member was soliciting ideas from another about vegeterian cooking with wheat-free and dairy-free angles to the conversation.

Just before 11pm mum showed up with tonight's shopping and more gifts (amounting to another 17.36kg for £4.02). I spent a couple of hours making sure to cook and freeze sensitive high-carb produce (like diced sweet potatos) to give me the option of low-carbing tomorrow. 9kg of courgettes are spending the night unrefrigerated - maybe tomorrow I'll see sense and swap some potatos out of the fridge to make room for these. If I go low-carb, I may try to minimise food quantities - an active stomach-shrinking objective. Perhaps I'll try going by hunger and only do numerical analysis before designing the last meal(s).

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=233
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 45 min cycle to OA. 1.75 hours.
Shopping:
160p courgettes(9kg)
57p asparagus(620g)
40p swede(4.2kg)
40p sweet-potato(500g)butternut-squash(500g)
32p cabbage-leek(1.2kg)
30p casserole-vegetables:swede-carrot-babypotato-leek-onion(1kg)
24p spring-greens(520g)
20p parsnips(1kg)
20p cabbage-medley(470g)
10p mushrooms(150g)
9p carrots(540g)
gift parsnips(1.3kg)
gift broccoli(660g)
gift cauliflower(400g)
£4.42
Fruit: 70.2% [1404kcal, 2449g]:  banana740 apple233 pear-funsize-tesco207 kiwi-fruit132 grapefruit92
Starchy: 21.1% [422kcal, 1560g]:  veg-soup-mix:carrot-leek-parsnip-celery128 potato-baked104 swede-boiled82 parsnip-boiled41 casserole-vegetables:swede-carrot-babypotato-leek-onion31 sweet-potato-boiled30 butternut-squash-boiled7
Nuts: 4.4% [87kcal, 14g]:  peanuts-salted-sp29 almonds24 brazil-nut-HB23 peanuts-dry-roasted12
Animals: 4.1% [83kcal, 55g]:  turkey-roast-butter50 banana-flavour-whey-powder28 semi-skimmed-milk5
Rubbish: 0.2% [4kcal, 2g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon3 coffee-instant1
Totals: [4080g] 2000, 50.3g protein (10.1%), 19.4g fat (8.7%), 406.0g carb (81.2%), 3.31g saturated fat, 63.29g fibre, 0.38g sodium. 87 is 4.4%

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 Posted: 20 April 2008 07:25 am
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Saturday

Woke up, dished out a large amount of raw mushrooms and headed out to the gym. At combat Angela introduced the group to the first 5 tracks from the new Combat (which some of us have been doing with Shey on Mondays for a while) - with us not sure how well she's learnt her choreograpy it is the ultimate test as we're trying to do it from memory, especially those of us who have been put on the spot. At the end of te day she still knows the choreography better than me. She makes a comment about improvements in music in recent releases, and that she originally got into Exercise To Music because of the music. I can relate a bit - I have really been into dancing for much of my life (even though I'm not doing any at the moment) and I don't tend to exercise in the absence of music unless you think of my cycling around town as exercise - I do that to speech. At Pump, Sam was standing next to a man who was a beginner and dishing out teaching points (something I've done myself on ocassion) reminding me of her teaching ambition. If Sam is absent from workouts next Wednesday and Saturday then chances are high she's doing her course the same place I did.

On the face of it today has been compliant with Eat To Live: mushrooms, broccoli and cauliflower accounted for 1.4kg (about 3lb) of food - I believe most people would consider this to be sufficient; with 159g (about 5.5 oz) of nuts and seeds. But wait! if you look at macronutrient breakdown, it also happens to be Atkins Induction: just 23.2g of carbs, and 68.4% of calories came from fat. Oh, and I wasn't hungry. well I felt some fleeting hunger as I was cycling home around 11.30am but the feeling only lasted a couple of minutes. As I've said before, I'd like to experience hunger to see what it is like.

The plan is to do 2 more low-carb days on Sunday and Monday before having Tuesday as a carb-up day (no idea what I'll do after that).

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=234
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Combat, 60 min Body Pump. 2 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 20.3% [243kcal, 1431g]:  mushroom-common-raw127 broccoli-boiled66 cauliflower-boiled51
Nuts: 79.7% [957kcal, 159g]:  peanuts-salted-sp442 peanuts-dry-roasted118 almonds106 sunflower-seed-hulled64 pumpkin-seed-hb54 brazil-nut-HB49 sesame-seed-JS45 peanuts-redskin-raw31 monkey-nuts29 linseed17
Totals: [1590g] 1200, 71.7g protein (23.9%), 91.2g fat (68.4%), 23.2g carb (7.7%), 14.76g saturated fat, 30.40g fibre, 0.48g sodium. 0 is 0%

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 Posted: 20 April 2008 10:40 am
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Nir wrote:

The plan is to do 2 more low-carb days on Sunday and Monday before having Tuesday as a carb-up day (no idea what I'll do after that).

maybe do two "variable eating" days, as McDonald outlines?  just to see what happens?

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 Posted: 20 April 2008 01:14 pm
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Can you tell me which chapter/book to look at, I hope I'm not being dense but the phrase 'variable eating' doesn't mean anything to me right now :shock:

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 Posted: 20 April 2008 08:06 pm
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pge 71, chapter 13-- it's actually "diet variable" but it was 5:30 a.m. and i didn't get the wording quite right.  sorry..  lol- i am not a morning person

from what i gather, eateing is pretty much based on what your goals are.  if your goals arn't specific, then i guess you could just do a ratio as you see fit for your mood. 

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 Posted: 20 April 2008 08:46 pm
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I see that the diet breakdown for days 6-7 ("Diet Variable") is mostly on page 70 where the choice is between maintenance calories (for max gain) and 10-20% below maintenance (for max fat loss).

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 Posted: 20 April 2008 11:22 pm
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Sunday

Got about 2 hours of online time in the morning before heading out to Bletcley for a 4 hour outing including that AA meeting (unusually I was able to identify some aspects of my food problems within the alcoholic story). On the way home discovered that Tesco are once more selling their Value peanuts (good news for me) on the other hand ASDA have repackaged their raw peanut product and it is now at least 50% more expensive than it was before.

Got back home at 2pm and had 3 hours, spent them mostly online; mum came over with some produce and then I headed out to the gym. I was tired (or maybe just glycogen-depleted) but somehow managed my step and pump classes (Lyle McDonald did warn I wouldn't enjoy workouts on low-carb days); I then socialised for a few minutes with other class members at the sauna before heading home.

Yesterday I installed mIRC so I can more easily follow online OA meetings using the 'log file' feature. I wrote a little javascript program that transforms the log file into something more readable.

7-day food shopping totals: 0 + 1.05 + 6.15 + 0.50 + 4.42 + 0 + 0.51 = £12.63

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=235
Exercise: [AM] 90 min cycle to Bletchley [PM] 45 min Body Step, 60 min Body Pump. 3.25 hours.
Shopping: 30p spring-greens(2.2kg) 21p peanuts(200g) gift fine-green-beans(410g) £0.51
Veg: 24.3% [291kcal, 1316g]:  broccoli-boiled82 cauliflower-boiled59 asparagus-boiled51 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled43 mushroom-common-raw20 cabbage-boiled19 cabbage-medley18
Nuts: 73.9% [887kcal, 147g]:  peanuts-dry-roasted246 peanuts-salted-tesco186 brazil-nut-HB154 peanuts-salted-sp93 monkey-nuts74 almonds67 sunflower-seed-hulled36 pumpkin-seed-hb30
Animals: 1.0% [12kcal, 25g]:  semi-skimmed-milk12
Rubbish: 0.8% [10kcal, 8g]:  coffee-instant5 chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [1496g] 1200, 68.4g protein (22.8%), 87.5g fat (65.6%), 34.8g carb (11.6%), 14.06g saturated fat, 36.97g fibre, 0.52g sodium. 22 is 1.8%

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 Posted: 21 April 2008 09:38 pm
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Monday

Online for an hour, just nibbling on nuts but not eating any veggies before heading out to a busy spin class where I didn't really exert myself too much, but then I didn't feel I had much to give on this, my 3rd low-carb day in a row. I guess due to vegetable availability each day is slightly higher-carb than the previous one (and percentage of calories from vegetables has also steadily grown day by day). I certainly have plenty of low-carb vegetables available for another cycle after this. The good news is that Tom Venuto thinks you should do no more than 3 low-carb days in a row (Lyle thinks I'm OK to do a carb-up once every 2 weeks - no thank you) so I'm back to 'normal' tomorrow. Maybe even 2100 calories for one day.

Mum called whilst I was cycling back home. On the 11th we received letters from E2Save informing us that our cashback claims were rejected on a technicality and we collectively lost £1620 (about $3240) and naturally it was entirely my fault. I took it quite hard. Mum has been nagging me to do something about it and has even been making some vaguely useful suggestions but I was too depressed. I have been busy distracting myself. For example last Monday I did an extra hour at the gym. On Thursday I 'peaked' as far as being upset was concerned, in fact I couldn't share at the OA meeting as I knew I'd cry if I said a word. Anyhow after a theraputic night I was more accepting of the situation (but I still was not ready to act). So today's extended nag earnt mum a 'hang up' after she refused to drop the subject.

I decided I was ready to put some effort into this. At first I Googled terms such as 'unfair contract', 'unfair terms' and was reading various materials at the Office of Fair Trading website, as well as mobile-phone specific things. Eventually I was in the frame of mind to call the company and have it out with them. Recall that I was holding in my hand letters stating that I had already failed with my claims.

The phone interaction went an unexpected way. I was simply instructed as to what to do next. I spent about 2 hours doing 'admin' (including two trips to the library to use the photocopier, addressing 15 envelopes, filling in 3 vouchers, putting sticy tape to seal some envelopes, queueing at the post office). At the moment I am hopeful that things are back on track with this.

It was then time to head out for Combat, which I just about survived (poor glycogen-depleted me). Sometimes I choose my workouts based on who else is doing them and it was annoying to discover that some of my favourite participants were staying on for Step but I decided on self-care and headed home instead! It is now 10.30pm so I'm predicting an early night (but I could be wrong)

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=236
Exercise: [AM] 45 min Spin, [PM] 60 min Body Combat. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 30.2% [362kcal, 1563g]:  spring-greens-cabbage-boiled117 brussel-sprouts-boiled90 asparagus-boiled62 cabbage-leek-TESCO50 cabbage-medley43 mushroom-common-raw1
Nuts: 69.6% [835kcal, 136g]:  peanuts-salted-sp529 peanuts-dry-roasted118 brazil-nut-HB106 monkey-nuts34 pumpkin-seed-hb17 almonds16 sunflower-seed-hulled15
Rubbish: 0.2% [3kcal, 2g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon3
Totals: [1700g] 1200, 68.0g protein (22.7%), 85.1g fat (63.9%), 40.4g carb (13.5%), 13.35g saturated fat, 45.71g fibre, 0.52g sodium. 3 is 0.2%

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 Posted: 22 April 2008 04:19 am
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Hey Nir!  Not quite sure what the cashback claims issue is, but I hope it works out...that's a crazy amount of money to be out of based on a technicality!

So, it seems I missed something...when last I chekced you were suspecting that your cals were too low and experimenting with increasing your calories to find your true maint. range and now I understand you're carb cycling with a calorie bounce? 

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 Posted: 22 April 2008 06:31 am
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I was reading Lyle's "Ultimate Diet 2.0", the basic configuration requires you to do low-carb (not necessarily ketogenic) and low-calorie for the first 3.5 days of the week and also use workouts to deplete your glycogen. Calories are set at half your maintenance, of 1200 calories (whichever is higher). I was curious about this (about what it would feel like to do it, whether I would be able to cope, and whether it would work for me). However my main drive to do it is the sudden availability of appropriate vegetables (vegetable availability is random because I only buy whatever is discounted). After two false starts (only lasted one low-carb day each time) I finally managed a 3-day stretch and right now (Tuesday morning) I am so grateful to be able to eat carbs. Cooking up some swede right now!

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Sounds like you need a nice fat Hug too! From Africa to the UK for you from me:bear:

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 Posted: 22 April 2008 12:41 pm
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Thanks.

By the way I am currently re-watching Atkins apologist Gary Taubes:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=4362041487661765149

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 Posted: 23 April 2008 10:53 am
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Tuesday

Hoped that some swede, banana, mixed casserole veggies an apple-pomelo smoothie and some turkey slices would be an effective pre-workout breakfast (391 calories, 70.2g carbs, 17.2g protein) but I was either still tired or still glycogen depleted (wrong type of carbs?) and so barely coped with my morning Pump workout.

Mum called to ask whether I wanted to go halves on a case of tomatos from the market - I did.

Rob was at the stop but no bus came so he was unable to join Phil and myself for the preview of enjoyable comedy 'Forgetting Sarah Marshal'. Phil loves to cut it fine - he arrived at 6.28pm and by the time we stepped into the auditorium the film had aready started. In my book the most important thing about a comedy is for it to be funny, so this film worked for me. Phil walked me home as it was on his way (to the cashpoint) and we had a good chat.

At my last meal I had finished the last of my frozen bananas (including the 24-odd kilos I purchased not that long ago, that's well over 23,000 banana calories that I systematically worked through!). Not sure what I will pick for a higher-calorie but still relatively nutrient dense food to have when there is a call for it. Logically it should be something like chick-peas but as those are safely in their tins whilst parsnips and potatos are in the fridge, I'll probably gravitate towards these.

I really enjoyed my high-carb day (with the exception of feeling quite full at around 3pm) so I'm in no rush to start the next low-carb cycle just yet. Also I am scared that going down to 1200 calories again so soon might be bad for me, so this implies Wednesday will also be high-carb. I did at one point consider going over 2000 calories in order to hit that 10g of carbs per kilo of LBM (would work out at 475g carbs, I guess) but ended up shying away from that.

If anyone wants to know where ocassional CPH poster David Brown is 'hanging out', I encountered him posting comments at http://www.diseaseproof.com and http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TaubesTalk/messages as he appears to be a Gary Taubes fan.

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=237
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: £1 tomato(3.1kg). £1
Veg: 1.8% [36kcal, 99g]:  onion-raw36
Fruit: 71.6% [1432kcal, 2617g]:  banana652 apple480 grapefruit153 pear-funsize-tesco125 goji-berries-sun-dried23
Starchy: 21.0% [420kcal, 1189g]:  sweet-potato-boiled99 potato-baked89 casserole-vegetables:swede-carrot-babypotato-leek-onion68 butternut-squash-boiled64 swede-boiled53 parsnip-boiled46
Nuts: 1.4% [28kcal, 5g]:  peanuts-salted-sp28
Animals: 3.9% [78kcal, 53g]:  turkey-smoked-wafer-thin50 banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.3% [5kcal, 3g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [3965g] 2000, 45.9g protein (9.2%), 10.9g fat (4.9%), 429.6g carb (85.9%), 1.97g saturated fat, 55.25g fibre, 0.34g sodium. 83 is 4.2%

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 Posted: 24 April 2008 02:06 pm
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Wednesday

I was energised for my step class, 100% times better than same time yesterday.

I am spending more time on the OA IRC rooms (there are two of them). Sometimes I share in a meeting, sometimes I talk to people between meetings. I was kicked out a room for not responding. I wasn't sure if somebody took a dislike to me. I have subsequently had some good conversation with them so I guess it is all good.

The chatting took me out of my 100-things-to-do mentality for a few hours so I was calm for my counselling session (first in 3 weeks) where I recounted some of the drama of this time segment.

I had fun at Combat. I am only human, I allowed myself to be distracted by a particular girl and so wasn't keeping track of time. When I checked it was already too late (need to leave by 7.45pm if I want to make the AA meeting) so I stayed till the end, bought some spring greens at Sainsbury's and proceeded home.

Later on mum showed up with shopping - altogether I netted 17.09kg of shopping for £5.39 (31.5p per kilo, yes about twice the price I was previously getting used to). There was a fair bit and I was tired and busy. On IRC told someone about how I use Eat To Live as my food plan and the 90% rule as a meter for my abstinence. I fell asleep around 1am having not finished dealing with all the shopping. I want at least another high-carb day.

The PHP code for my food pages is not working at the moment, giving unusual error messages. I'm busy so I am holding off on putting energy into debugging this. After all I didn't change anything, surely it is not my fault. Another nail in the coffin of the plan of moving my calorie-counting application from my computer to the somewhat-unreliable internet!




Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=238
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 60 min Body Combat. 2 hours.
Shopping:
120p sweet-potatos(1.7kg)butternut-squash(1.6kg)
80p granny-smith-apples(2.7kg)
80p sliced-pineapple(780g)galia(760g)cantelope(640g)
49p brussel-sprouts(1.1kg)
45p mangos(1kg)
20p parsnip(1.1kg)
18p galia-melon(930g)
18p cauliflower(410g)broccoli(280g)
17p beetroot(200g)
16p asparagus(260g)
15p cantelope-melon(1.2kg)
15p conference-pears(900g)
13p baby-leeks(190g)
12p swede(770g)
11p runner-beans(230g)
10p spring-greens(340g)
£5.39
Veg: 3.9% [77kcal, 387g]:  tomato56 onion-raw22
Legumes: 0.6% [11kcal, 3g]:  TVP-dried11
Fruit: 58.8% [1175kcal, 2697g]:  apple830 pineapple236 pear-funsize-tesco109
Starchy: 26.4% [527kcal, 839g]:  potato-baked240 sweet-potato-boiled151 parsnip-boiled117 swede-boiled19
Nuts: 7.4% [149kcal, 24g]:  peanuts-salted-sp74 almonds30 brazil-nut-HB26 monkey-nuts19
Grain: 1.0% [21kcal, 6g]:  malt-crunchies21
Animals: 2.0% [40kcal, 11g]:  banana-flavour-whey-powder40
Totals: [3967g] 2000, 41.9g protein (8.4%), 21.4g fat (9.6%), 409.8g carb (82.0%), 3.02g saturated fat, 67.14g fibre, 0.30g sodium. 40 is 2.0%

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 Posted: 24 April 2008 11:05 pm
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Thursday

Felt good doing pump (a novelty these days). Afterwards did some eating and cooking; eventually started working on yesterday's shopping (for one thing, so I can post yesterday's diary!). Finally lost interest in Gary Taubes. Summary: he crafts a careful argument against eating 'refined carbohydrates'. Fantastic. Sounds like Dr Fuhrman then! oh wait, the final twist is that, without any explanation, rather than replace refined carbs with unrefined carbs, he goes (surprise, surprise) for the Atkins route, saturated-fat laden animal products (hello heart attack).

I took an online test today to see if I'm addicted to the internet. Sometimes I get behind on my internet commitments when I'm doing food. Sometimes it's the computer that keeps me away from food.

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=239
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 3.4% [69kcal, 150g]:  beetroot-boiled69
Fruit: 50.4% [1007kcal, 2695g]:  apple283 pears-conference185 mango179 galia-melon144 pear-funsize-tesco113 cantelope-melon97 goji-berries-sun-dried6
Starchy: 37.1% [742kcal, 1413g]:  sweet-potato-boiled449 butternut-squash-boiled273 swede-boiled20
Nuts: 5.4% [107kcal, 17g]:  peanuts-salted-sp57 brazil-nut-HB28 almonds22
Animals: 3.6% [72kcal, 48g]:  dry-cured-ham50 banana-flavour-whey-powder22
Rubbish: 0.1% [3kcal, 2g]:  chewing-gum-honey-lemon3
Totals: [4324g] 2000, 49.7g protein (9.9%), 17.2g fat (7.7%), 411.6g carb (82.3%), 2.58g saturated fat, 57.92g fibre, 0.22g sodium. 75 is 3.8%

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 Posted: 26 April 2008 11:58 am
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Nir, I see you haven't posted in a couple of days.  I miss your posts and hope all is ok.

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 Posted: 26 April 2008 03:49 pm
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Yes running slightly late with Friday's post, given that it is almost 5pm on Saturday evening right now!

Friday

The only day of the week where I get a lie in because Step is at 10.30am. I guess Sunday can also be a lie in if I skip the AA meeting. I decided on a low-carb day but glycogen stores still full from the last 3 days so plenty of energy on display.

Back home and chatted to mum about this and that before long online sessions. Then suddenly it was time for OA. A great meeting with 11 people. For a change I was first to share, not caring if it meant that something will pop into my head that I won't be able to share on (usually no 2nd shares). After the meeting a member told me that they had felt cold towards me because a few weeks ago I said something in a share of mine which they took to be directed at them. I was saying that somebody at OA told me to eat when hungry and stopped when full. It was directed at a different member who literally used those words at me. So the person who had this resentment at me for being upset at her - well it was all in her head! Never mind, such a minor thing. After half an hour of chatting to various people I cycled back home but decided to stop at the AA meeting. My OA meeting finished at 7.30 and I was there till around 8.05, the AA meeting starts at 8pm but I only got there at 8.40pm so I only got 20 minutes of (some powerful) shares. It is interesting that one of our members is confident and well-established, with almost 31 years of sobriety, but in his own words somewhat timid in OA (I guess it doesn't help that he is wearing his food disease and is not achieving much physical recovery). If I ever get the opportunity I would give him diet advice!

At 10pm mum arrived with lots of shopping - 15.71 kilos for £4.77 (makes 30.4p per kilo). My freezer is choc-full of apples and tomatos so there was no room for any of my strawberries. I don't usually get olives because they are not usually discounted - boy were these salty. The only salty thing I have on a regular basis are salted peanuts, which are quite salty but these olives were 5 times saltier (and still oily after multiple attempts to wash them with water).

So many high-carb things arrived that need urgent attention so I decided tomorrow shall be a high carb day so I can take care of them all!

Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=240
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 45 min cycle to OA. 1.75 hours.
Shopping:
150p strawberries(2.4kg)
140p butternut-squash(2.3kg)sweet-potato(2.1kg)
32p black-olives(170g)
24p spring-greens(1.6kg)
24p mushrooms(750g)
22p orange(1.9kg)
17p sweet-potatos(1.1kg)
13p swede(500g)carrot(320g)onion(240g)parsnip(80g)
13p mini-aubergines(200g)
11p tomato(400g)
11p runner-beans(250g)
10p veg-stir-fry:cabbage-carrot-broccoli-onion-Tesco(400g)
10p pineapple(200g)
gift strawberries(800g)
£4.77
Veg: 37.7% [453kcal, 2137g]:  spring-greens-cabbage-boiled150 cabbage-leek-TESCO77 aspajragus-boiled49 tomato47 broccoli-boiled42 brussel-sprouts-boiled30 veg-stir-fry:cabbage-carrot-broccoli-onion-Tesco22 fine-whole-beans-raw20 courgette-raw16
Nuts: 61.4% [737kcal, 272g]:  peanuts-dry-roasted200 olives-pitted183 peanuts-salted-sp135 brazil-nut-HB53 almonds51 monkey-nuts37 sesame-seed-JS29 pumpkin-seed-hb22 sunflower-seed-hulled18 cocoa-powder10
Animals: 0.9% [10kcal, 12g]:  banana-flavour-whey-powder6 semi-skimmed-milk5
Totals: [2420g] 1200, 65.7g protein (21.9%), 81.5g fat (61.1%), 50.9g carb (17.0%), 8.58g saturated fat, 56.79g fibre, 0.41g sodium. 10 is 0.9%

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 Posted: 27 April 2008 08:16 am
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(Beth, it is fantastic that someone actually checks up on me!)

Saturday

I felt tired and weak and bothered as I was heading out for my workouts. As I was switching from low carb to high carb for the day I ate about 500 calories high-carb (for example sweet potatos) before heading out. I used the time to cycle to the gym, pre-workout shower etc to centre myself I was feeling good before the workout started and had good ones. Towards the end of the two hours, at body pump's shoulder track, smiled to myself noticing that the mighty Sam was only using 2kg dumbells but her mum (who is probably around 50?) was using 3kg dumbells that's 50% more. I wonder how I would feel if my mum was in the room for most of my workouts would it cramp my style?

At home after the gym I had a whole bunch of cubed buternut squash and sweet potato that needed to be urgently cooked and then either eaten or frozen (but freezer space is currently limited). Was doing this at the same time as other things for a few hours.

I am a computer techie so I decided to do detective work to find out why my 'food links' stopped working, discovered my PHP was falling over the require_once 'DB.php' line which meant the admins broke PEAR::DB. I am powerless over people, places and things. What to do? anxiety. I filed a 'ticket' doing my best to provide the right information for resolution. I got an inappropriate reply blaming me for doing something wrong. I was annoyed that they never bothered to propery read what I carefully wrote. In full techie mode I can be a right sarcastic sod and I had to hold myself back in my reply in the ticket - a mixture of humble and sarcastic. It worked somebody actually bothered to read what I wrote, they went ahead and fixed their server and so my little program works again. I get easily stressed.

I also fixed a couple of things on the FL4I forum. Moderators can merge 2 topics into one but only technically-minded Admins (that will be me) can split one topic into two, so doing it made me feel good about myself.

Phil came around to hand-deliver a voucher giving me £5 off food at Slug and Lettuce. Unfortunately there aren't many healthy options on the menu. My ideal choice a baked potato is not available. My disease started obsessing about using the voucher for a dessert.

It was 5pm and I finally got around to uploading my diary. I was feeling tired, I had between 20 and 30 unopened emails and thoroughly beaten by life and the things I have chosen to do on a regular basis. How pathetic - I don't even have a job, my time is my own and I can't keep up with my own life.

Last night my friend revealed he would be chair at tonight's new AA meeting. I didn't want to go as I was exhausted and stressed but I did want to hear their story so I went anyhow. My 5th AA meet and the first I shared at. I learnt a lot about my friend from the chair. Also bumped into the first person who shook my hand as I walked into my first OA meeting - I wondered what happened to him as he has not been to an OA meeting in months, I thought he was 'out there' but he is an AA (which I didn't know) and maintains his main recovery so whilst it looks like he might have put on some weight I know all will be well for him. We had a chat and he pointed out that 't