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Hisgal
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Posted: 26 March 2008 11:55 pm |
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Nir,
Due to a number of things happening in my life and others around me, I decided to re-read "Eat To Live" and start following Dr. Furhman's advice, as much as I can.
As I was reading, I thought of you, when I got to pg. 61............"In a review of 206 human-population studies, raw vegetable consumption showed the strongest protective effect against cancer of any beneficial food"
Also ran across this: ".......there is one food that scientific research has shown has a strong positive association with increased longevity in humans............The answer is raw, leafy greens, normally referred to as salad. Leafy greens such as romaine lettuce, kale, collards, Swiss chard, and spinach are the most nutrient dense of all foods."
When I read that, it brought to mind our posts on March 18. I had forgotten Dr. Furhman's 1:1 rule of 1 lb. cooked veggies and 1 lb. raw veggies, that you referred to in one of your posts.
I sure wish it didn't take so long to prepare the fresh veggies! Was I late to work this morning or what? Again, I am in awe of your perseverence, Nir!  I forgot how good all these veggies taste............and I love that I can have all the fruit I want 
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Nir
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Posted: 27 March 2008 12:14 pm |
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Yesterday I took 8 'lunch boxes' on my 4-hour outing to London, the majority (5) were raw, so I am trying. But some things are just nicer cooked. You should see my face when I'm trying to eat raw brussel sprouts  . The excuse I am still leaning on is that raw is only really an option for really fresh vegetables  . My first reading was 2006, I'm now in my second reading (towards the end of chapter 7) and I think I will benefit from a third reading at some point!
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 27 March 2008 01:38 pm |
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Wednesday
Got up at 7.30am and had a couple of hours to prep my MP3 player for my outing. Apart from using that I was also reading ETL at times when on the train.
So after coming back home (4 hour outing for a 4 minute consultation which, in my opinion, could have been done on the telephone, grumble). In a short while I will be discontinuing my two medications and it will be interesting to see how my symptoms then vary. I spent two hours at home (making smoothies and being online) then headed out to counselling, where I drew a comparison between my former TV addiction and my current non-stop online "duties" (well keeping up with so many mailing lists and blogs often feels like a chore and it seems as though my brain does not get a chance to do any thinking). I then had just over an hour to myself at home. Already exhausted, I wish I had napped but instead I kept going (same thing: food and computer).
The body combat workout was a very welcome break. Somehow I mustered enough energy to do it. Safron (who used to work on the fruit & veg stand at the market but who I only really got to know the almost 2 years we spent as members at Fitness First had been brought in as a guest by Hannah, and it was nice to see her again. We briefly talked Fitness First gossip - I did some of that on Monday night when I bumped into the person who is allegedly the only person who is still working there who was working there when I was expelled 1.5 years ago - which is interesting).
I had an early night but needed my sleep and found it easy to fall back to sleep after each toilet break, finally relying upon an alarm to wake me up at 8.30am!
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=210
Exercise: [AM] 30 min cycle to train station [PM] 30 min cycle to counselling, 60 min Body Combat. 2 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 19.9% [379kcal, 1962g]: tomato84 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled81 brussel-sprouts-boiled60 mange-tout-raw60 cherry-tomato35 mushroom-common-raw30 cucumber28
Fruit: 65.1% [1236kcal, 2674g]: banana325 kiwi-fruit245 apple179 nectarine178 plum-british-lightred163 pear-funsize-tesco148
Nuts: 9.2% [175kcal, 29g]: cashew-raw-ndat75 peanuts-salted-sp66 brazil-nut-HB34
Animals: 5.0% [95kcal, 37g]: herring-grilled50 banana-flavour-whey-powder45
Rubbish: 0.8% [16kcal, 9g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon16
Totals: [4711g] 1900, 74.1g protein (15.6%), 33.2g fat (15.7%), 326.1g carb (68.7%), 4.42g saturated fat, 67.14g fibre, 0.09g sodium. 111 is 5.8%
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Nir
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Posted: 27 March 2008 03:48 pm |
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Found this link: http://www.anonymousbodybuilding.com/Ebooks/ There is a lot of rubbish on this page, but also a couple of books by Lyle McDonald that I'm going to sink my teeth into.
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Nir
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Posted: 28 March 2008 06:56 am |
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Thursday
Had a late start then with barely any breakfast rushed out to make pump - a good workout, better than Tuesday. On the way home bumped into mum who was deliering 50 tupperware boxes I bought for £5 (they tend to break after a while when I freeze them).
I was delighted to discover that my 'Three' contract phone had been converted to Pay As You Go on schedule. Later in the day I received a call from their contact centre about the Direct Debit I cancelled and how this will cost me more in future bills (what future bills?). The representative was adamant that yes, I asked for my account to be converted but later cancelled the request. I tried reasoning with them but quickly decided that hanging up on them was the less stressful route.
I neither listened to the computer nor the MP3 player when I woke up or on the way to the gym, encouraging 'peacefulness' until midday. However I then went the other way, and my online research projects are taking me into materials that are challenging me, basically low-carb and high-protein advocates (and I am very curious).
Watched a free preview of British film 'Son of Rambow' with Phil and Rob. The film tackled the subject matter of bullying at school which I found difficult to stomach and at one point I was thinking of leaving but overall I'm glad I stayed for the duration. Both early in the day (around 2pm) and directly after the film managed to 'evade' Rob's attempts to drag me to the pub.
I tried to stay 'on top' of my produce. This involved, amongst other things, sifting through my refrigerated potato reserve.
I got a night-time produce delivery (4.89kg for 99p) including 600g of fruit salad which unusually I consumed immediately (rather than freeze and consume as smoothie). Mum was trying to stress me out by suggesting that there are signs and indications that our good luck with Tesco bargains is about to end. My take is that I do not want to stress about something I cannot change. If it will be, let it happen - I'm sure a solution will emerge. I will not starve.
Oh, after the event I noticed I forgot to have my daily meat/fish serving. Never mind.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=211
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 20p cherry-tomato(500g) 19p fruit-salad(600g) 18p babyleaf-salad-with-purple-basil(170g) 10p parsnips(2.7kg) 9p leeks(260g) 9p watercress,spinach&rocket(110g) 8p spinach&red-chard-salad(140g) 6p pak-choi(210g) gift tenderstem-broccoli(200g) £0.99
Veg: 12.6% [240kcal, 1437g]: spring-greens-cabbage-boiled42 tomato39 cherry-tomato36 mushroom-common-raw35 babyleaf-salad-with-purple-basil31 broccoli-boiled27 cucumber19 watercress,spinach&rocket12
Fruit: 60.3% [1145kcal, 2076g]: banana563 kiwi-fruit121 apple91 nectarine80 plum-british-lightred57 pear-funsize-tesco46 watermelon45 mango42 grapes36 galia-melon36 orange26
Starchy: 12.0% [228kcal, 388g]: potato-baked129 jerusalem-artichoke46 carrot-raw44 carrot-old-boiled9
Nuts: 13.2% [251kcal, 45g]: cashew-raw-ndat251
Animals: 1.2% [23kcal, 6g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder23
Rubbish: 0.7% [13kcal, 8g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon13
Totals: [3961g] 1900, 60.6g protein (12.8%), 31.5g fat (14.9%), 343.4g carb (72.3%), 5.37g saturated fat, 53.53g fibre, 0.08g sodium. 36 is 1.9%
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Nir
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Posted: 29 March 2008 01:15 am |
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Friday
I couldn't sleep between 4 and 8am. Spent some of that time re-sweeping through my collection of allotment-sourced potatos. Finally got sleeping again and would have happily slept through Step if it wasn't for my persistent alarm clock. It was somewhat windy (a contrast to the sun which briefly showed its face yesterday) but I enjoyed my outing. I did catch up with sleep in the afternoon.
After allocating a fair chunk of calories to potatos in the morning I moved on to fruits and green veggies in the afternoon. Finally, when coming back from OA I allocated the first 200 calories to a massive salad and a large smoothie made from the lowest-calorie fruits I have (plums and cherry tomatos).
There were 7 of us at OA but two are currently going through the steps and they do not share during this time, so there were some long silences between shares - but I am OK with that. My share was about how I'm using OA to not get stressed by life's events.
Multi-tasking: I am simultaneously reading the following Lyle McDonald booklets: Flexible Dieting, Ultimate Diet 2.0, Rapid Fat Loss, CKD (ok this last one is more book than booklet). Just a bit of fun. Having said that, as critical as I'd like to think my mind is, it is inevitable that anything I read might influence me. My starting point, years ago, was vanity. I weighed about 33% more than I do at present and I did not enjoy my 'spare tyre' look. Health was never an issue! I think I have grown up a little now, but this is a bitter pill I am swallowing as I recognise I am facing a choice: optimising my 'sports nutrition' to do a 'cut' will probably be at odds with optimising my long-term health - so do I need to reach 10% body fat, to 'see my abdominals'? How vain am I?
I'm at the stage where I have more MP3 files than space on the MP3 player, the first time I am realising that 1GB isn't that much.
Again I'm only noticing I forgot to eat my meat/fish portion now that I'm writing up the diary. Not a problem!
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=212
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 45 min cycle to OA. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 13.1% [248kcal, 1458g]: cherry-tomato46 tomato45 mushroom-common-raw33 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled30 spinach&red-chard-salad28 leek-baby-raw25 watercress,spinach&rocket16 iceberg-lettuce16 cucumber10
Fruit: 45.2% [858kcal, 1598g]: banana436 plum-british-lightred117 nectarine103 kiwi-fruit83 apple66 pear-funsize-tesco54
Starchy: 24.7% [470kcal, 616g]: potato-baked444 parsnip-boiled26
Nuts: 14.6% [277kcal, 47g]: cashew-raw-ndat121 peanuts-salted-sp92 brazil-nut-HB32 sunflower-seed-hulled31
Animals: 1.5% [28kcal, 8g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 1.0% [18kcal, 10g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon18
Totals: [3737g] 1900, 63.2g protein (13.3%), 34.4g fat (16.3%), 334.3g carb (70.4%), 5.93g saturated fat, 49.25g fibre, 0.34g sodium. 46 is 2.4%
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morbidlemon
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Posted: 29 March 2008 11:06 am |
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Haha. Tell me about it. I have over 20GB of music on my computer, and that's even after I reluctantly compressed them even further to fit them on my MP3 Player. I've only ripped about half, it that, of my CD collection too. I'm constantly battling with disk space too because art files take up far too much space.
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 30 March 2008 08:26 am |
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Saturday
I will shortly be instructed to come off my medications ahead of a test but my curiosity to see what I am like without them is such that I decided to take myself off early. So far no dramatic changes (unlike similar event in February which had me suffering for 9 days).
Enjoyed my workouts then back home for a day of eating and reading.
Found some 'food porn' videos: http://chooseveg.com/anti-cancer-soup.asp http://chooseveg.com/bean-burgers.asp etc. The cooking videos inspired me be more inovative though nothing particuarly notable (grated raw carrot with cocoa, cooked greens spiced and finely processed, cooked mushrooms processed into a Pate).
My computer has been annoying me. I switched from Windows 2000 to Windows XP back in late January and this is a problem I've not had before then. Some time after the computer has been on a process called 'System' (no, not 'System Idle Process') takes up an unreasonable amount of the CPU power and the only workaround is to restart the computer. My current understanding is that all device drivers run under this process so naturally I have no idea how to proceed. The only peripherals I use are: the internet (via a 100Mbit connection to my 4-way router), an MP3 player (via USB) and a Sony Erricson mobile phone (via USB). As simple session which has neither of the last 2 connected could still result in the inflated System process after a while. Maybe I should be switching back to Windows 2000?
Now that I am feeling more confident about refusing 'regular' chocolates I am wondering whether I should be adopting a similar approach to hard cheese. The issue is whether I have the same problem or whether it is a fundamentally different issue. I did end up throwing away a large quantity of frozen cheese a while back, so there is some similarity.
One of my aims is to make sure I don't waste produce. This implies maximising the amount of frozen fruit I eat to ensure there is room to freeze more fruit (and indeed today I have managed to freeze the last of those bananas. Yes, all 24.8kg = ~55lb of those I got last week). However whilst fruit is lovely, I seem to be looking for excuses to avoid it: I did yet another 'potato sweep' (with less justification this time - the potatos are now in an acceptable condition and would last a few more weeks/months without attention) and even used chick peas from a tin (which would have been fine for years). I guess both of those choices were an attempt to find high calorie density options that are more satiating than fruit. The logical solution would be to obtain satiety from low calorie density choices [such as raw vegetables - hi Hisgal] so that satiety is not an issue when I'm using the rest of the calories on strategically emptying the freezer. I still need the freezer space for those riping nectarines and tomatos in the fridge!
Things you do day after day risk becoming a habit, and I've been keeping my 'animal+rubbish' percentages under 10% for a while now.
It was obviously time for bed when I fell asleep and woke up again whilst listening to Lyle's 'Ultimate Diet 2.0'.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=213
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Combat, 60 min Body Pump. 2 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 12.8% [243kcal, 1418g]: spring-greens-cabbage-boiled137 mushroom-common-boiled37 cherry-tomato36 tomato33
Legumes: 13.4% [255kcal, 211g]: chick-pea-boiled255
Fruit: 42.6% [810kcal, 1708g]: banana298 plum-british-lightred142 nectarine106 pear-funsize-tesco90 apple90 kiwi-fruit85
Starchy: 21.7% [412kcal, 682g]: potato-baked186 carrot-raw85 parsnip-boiled72 jerusalem-artichoke69
Nuts: 7.2% [137kcal, 24g]: almonds88 monkey-nuts41 cocoa-powder7
Animals: 1.8% [33kcal, 9g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder33
Rubbish: 0.5% [9kcal, 5g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon8 coffee-instant1
Totals: [4057g] 1900, 77.4g protein (16.3%), 29.1g fat (13.8%), 332.1g carb (69.9%), 3.43g saturated fat, 69.17g fibre, 0.17g sodium. 42 is 2.2%
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Beth
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Posted: 30 March 2008 01:38 pm |
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Thanks, Nir, for the website info. I love soup. I think I'll take a trip to the health food store for some organic carrots, etc. and make some soup for this week.
I'm surprised they didn't inform us that we could boil the beans for a few minutes and then start over with fresh water to make the beans "gasless."
Good luck with your meds.
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Nir
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Posted: 31 March 2008 01:15 pm |
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Beth, I also find myself sometimes washing away the water beans are boiled in (such as the brine in the tin).
Is it true that a picture is worth 1000 words?
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 31 March 2008 01:49 pm |
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Sunday
I woke up at "7am", though later on I would be reminded that  clocks go forward so in fact let's say it was 8am. I was in no hurry to eat breakfast but at 10.45am constructed myself a large salad because I was wondering whether the pain in my tummy had anything to do with hunger. However, this was not my only symptom.
I was also feeling constipated, and my testicles were noticably hurting. When visiting the loo it appeared my urine contained blood. At 11.30am I made myself a cup of decaff coffee and then, in the hope of relieving constipation I also started drinking waterin more serious quantities  - drinking 3 litres in the space of a short few hours (done by 3 or 4pm). At 12.15pm I decided to dose myself on 1000mg of paracetamol. At 1.45pm I went to the toilet and decided to collect my urine in a bottle. I was shocked by the dark brown colour (leftmost bottle, above) and the fact that there were some solid 'bits' floating in the liquid!
I reviewed recent events. I recently discontinued medications (last taking them on Friday morning). I drunk one litre of water between 9 and 11am on Saturday, 24 hours earlier, though some of that could have been sweated out during the activity. There were also some liquids in the 3.6kg of produce I consumed later on Saturday (food containing about 70g of fibre, up from my usual average of 50g fibre). However, going by the urine colour this was clearly not enough. Under the influence of paracetamol I was no longer experiencing my tummy or testicle pain but now a new intermittent sharp pain in my lower back on the left (which I presumed to be my left kidney) was making itself felt and this worried me. Also pictured is urine collected at 2.23pm (still darkish and also had a small solid bit in it), 3.09pm and 3.53pm - quickly returning to normal colour upon the administration of water. (I am now feeling fine).
Incidentally my bladder can now apparently hold 300ml of urine without medications. In February the without-medication figure was somewhere between 100 and 150ml, so evidently my operation has made some positive difference.
one lesson: drink your water
In other news, I noticed I was down to about 5 months of multi-vitamin supply and stocked up on Holland and Barrett's ABC Plus (29 different vitamins and minerals), 500 daily tablets - currently on sale for £7.49 (that is 1.5p each).
At 5pm I headed out for step and pump with Jason, doing a mixture of old and new tracks for both and having lots of fun (drunk another ). When I got home drunk another decaff coffee.
7-day food shopping totals: 0.20 + 0 + 0 + 0.99 + 0 + 0 + 0 = £1.19. This is quite shocking but unlike mum I chose not to panic at the temporary food unavailability.
Looking at today's figures, I don't think I've had such a "high fruit day" before, over 72% of calories from fruit, making for a high carb day (75%). I actually needed some help reaching my protein target - opting for Turkey (killing 2 birds with 1 stone).
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=214
Exercise: [PM] 45 min Body Step, 60 min Body Pump. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 5.9% [113kcal, 711g]: cherry-tomato38 leek-baby-raw29 mushroom-common-raw20 batavia-lettuce12 cucumber10 pak-choi5
Fruit: 72.2% [1372kcal, 2245g]: banana765 kiwi-fruit163 nectarine156 apple153 pear-funsize-tesco136
Starchy: 5.9% [113kcal, 147g]: potato-baked113
Nuts: 11.5% [219kcal, 36g]: peanuts-salted-sp101 cashew-raw-ndat83 brazil-nut-HB35
Animals: 4.1% [78kcal, 53g]: turkey-smoked-wafer-thin50 banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.3% [6kcal, 5g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon3 coffee-instant3
Totals: [3196g] 1900, 56.4g protein (11.9%), 28.0g fat (13.3%), 355.6g carb (74.9%), 5.89g saturated fat, 45.39g fibre, 0.32g sodium. 84 is 4.4%
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morbidlemon
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Posted: 31 March 2008 04:05 pm |
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On first reading I thought those bottles had something to do with the bean-water and I thought I was missing something... then I read on. That's a lot of water to have to drink to sort it out  Glad you're alright though! Definitely makes me want to drink more water, I'm a bit behind schedule today thanks to peppermint tea and feeling rubbish.
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Nir
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Posted: 31 March 2008 11:37 pm |
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Thanks.
by the way in May 2006 (I can't believe it is almost 2 years now - feels like yesterday) when I was tracking my calories and protein on paper I wanted to also track fat consumption (still on paper). I managed it for one week and then rebelled in a major way and there was at least a week of binge-eating (can you picture 4 large American style cookies? or 11 Krispy Kreme donuts?) before I recovered (back to recording: just the calories and protein!)
Actually I find the computer-based tracking to take me less time than the paper-based system I employed before (I am using an application I wrote myself: I don't know what CRON-o-meter is like to use).
Monday
Made a smoothie then headed out to Spin class; when I was back mum came over, delivering some gifts: 1L light cranberry juice; 210g raw king prawns (140g when cooked), 100g mange tout.
Throughout the day tried my hand and various smoothie combinations including raw vegetables:
1) tomato, chineese leaf lettuce, whey powder
2) tomato, pak choi, mange tout, kiwi, whey powder
3) nectarine, raw spring (collard) greens, whey powder
4) apple, carrot, whey powder
Generally spent the day trying to catch up with online things that were getting away from me. Combat came as a welcome break. Unusually no calls from Nash (tried him once myself but his phone was busy) maybe I should see what happens if I don't call - perhaps he has decided to reduce contact frequency I'll never know if I don't have the patience.
At 10pm mum came over to deliver my share of her Tesco efforts. Including some gifts from her fridge this worked out at 8.13kg of produce for just over £1.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=215
Exercise: [AM] 45 min Spin, [PM] 60 min Body Combat. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 12p green-cabbage(1.3kg) 12p stringless-beans(500g) 12p fine-whole-beans(320g) 10p seasonal-veg-selection-value:swede-carrot-potato-leek-onion(1kg) 10p cabbage-leek(600g) 9p rocket(60g) 9p asparagus(200g) 8p pears(1kg) 6p romaine-lettuce(360g) 6p sliced-greens(250g) 5p galia-melon(750g) 3p carrot(320g) gift savoy-cabbage(540g) gift brussel-sprouts(500g) gift pointy-cabbage(430g) £1.02
Veg: 16.1% [307kcal, 1609g]: tomato71 beetroot-boiled45 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled45 mushroom-common-raw40 spring-greens-cabbage-raw34 mange-tout-boiled27 chinese-leaf-lettuce14 pak-choi14 rocket11 cucumber7
Fruit: 54.4% [1033kcal, 1688g]: banana688 pear97 apple95 kiwi-fruit77 nectarine69 cranberry-light-tesco7
Starchy: 15.5% [294kcal, 771g]: seasonal-veg-selection-value:swede-carrot-potato-leek-onion108 carrot-raw107 jerusalem-artichoke42 parsnip-boiled37
Nuts: 10.9% [206kcal, 36g]: cashew-raw-ndat90 peanuts-dry-roasted48 pumpkin-seed-hb37 brazil-nut-HB32
Animals: 2.5% [47kcal, 45g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28 prawn-king19
Rubbish: 0.7% [13kcal, 8g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon11 coffee-instant2
Totals: [4157g] 1900, 66.0g protein (13.9%), 30.2g fat (14.3%), 341.0g carb (71.8%), 5.06g saturated fat, 64.37g fibre, 0.46g sodium. 60 is 3.2%
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Nir
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Posted: 1 April 2008 10:31 pm |
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Tuesday
Woken up by alarm, felt tired but went out to do pump anyway (feeling tired throughout). Wasn't sure why my urine was still pink today (after eating beetroot at 2pm yesterday) so drunk an extra litre of water (over the litre I drunk at pump).
After really hating a morning smoothie made with raw spring greens decided to not have greens raw again! Spent some time preparing and cooking vegetables (and catching up with online things).
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=216
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 12.1% [231kcal, 942g]: brussel-sprouts-boiled73 tomato69 spring-greens-cabbage-raw47 asparagus-boiled26 cabbage-boiled16
Fruit: 64.3% [1222kcal, 2363g]: banana725 galia-melon129 nectarine98 apple93 pear-funsize-tesco89 kiwi-fruit80 cranberry-light-tesco8
Starchy: 6.1% [116kcal, 322g]: carrot-raw116
Nuts: 12.1% [230kcal, 39g]: cashew-raw-ndat114 almonds90 brazil-nut-HB25
Animals: 4.7% [89kcal, 108g]: prawn-king50 banana-flavour-whey-powder39
Rubbish: 0.7% [13kcal, 8g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon11 coffee-instant2
Totals: [3783g] 1900, 65.2g protein (13.7%), 32.9g fat (15.6%), 335.7g carb (70.7%), 5.07g saturated fat, 53.70g fibre, 0.04g sodium. 102 is 5.4%
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Theresa
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Posted: 2 April 2008 06:25 am |
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Great going on the water consumption Nir!  It also seems as if the operation has improved things but just taking a while to show fully.
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Nir
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Posted: 2 April 2008 11:56 pm |
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It's not impossible...
Wednesday in pictures:
 
 
 
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Nir
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Posted: 3 April 2008 12:46 am |
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Wednesday
Spent a fair part of the day preparing vegetables for consumption, which was both useful and felt theraputic. Early on I sureyed all the veg already ready to eat from yesterday and throughout the day sampled everything (whilst preparing more). First thing in the morning I did another 'potato sweep' and re-organised them into fewer containers.
Step was full and I think someone was turned away. I relaxed on the way there by cycling without MP3 distraction. This also applied when cycling to counselling (next counselling will be in 3 weeks). Nash caught me a couple of times today (both times between Step and counselling) his news was that he got a raise today. Unusually for a Wednesday I wasn't shattered by the time I was heading to Combat. In other adventures I visited 2 shops today but failed to find Nutritional Yeast in either one.
At 11pm mum showed up with a bag-full of gift veggies, as well as some reasonable bargains, topped off with 30kg of potatos. Altogether I paid and got 40.85kg of stuff - I've stored most of it but there is still unpackaging, cooking work that will have to wait till tomorrow. One 5kg bag of potatos will have to slum it outside the fridge due to lack of storage space.
Listened some more to Lyle McDonald before bedtime.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=217
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 60 min Body Combat. 2 hours.
Shopping: 132p white-potatos(30kg) 75p veg-soup-mix:carrot-leek-parsnip-celery(2.5kg) 30p seasonal-veg-selection-value:swede-carrot-potato-leek-onion(1.5kg) 30p cantelope-melon(400g) 27p cauliflower(240g)broccoli(190g) 22p stringless-beans(500g) 15p mange-tout(150g) 13p shallots(400g) 10p brussel-sprouts(300g) 9p rocket(60g) gift carrots(2kg) gift leeks(1.1kg) gift oranges(1kg) gift mushrooms(750g) £3.63
Veg: 18.5% [352kcal, 1778g]: cabbage-leek-TESCO50 brussel-sprouts-boiled43 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled41 mushroom-common-raw40 tomato36 beetroot-boiled36 leek-baby-raw23 romaine-lettuce19 onion-raw15 fine-whole-beans-raw13 cucumber13 stringless-beans11 cabbage-boiled7 celery-raw5
Fruit: 49.6% [943kcal, 1893g]: banana450 pear-funsize-tesco165 nectarine125 apple105 kiwi-fruit90 cranberry-light-tesco9
Starchy: 17.6% [335kcal, 506g]: potato-baked230 jerusalem-artichoke60 veg-soup-mix:carrot-leek-parsnip-celery28 parsnip-boiled16
Nuts: 11.8% [225kcal, 40g]: cashew-raw-ndat182 brazil-nut-HB35 cocoa-powder8
Animals: 1.5% [28kcal, 8g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.9% [17kcal, 12g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon11 coffee-instant6
Totals: [4238g] 1900, 64.3g protein (13.5%), 32.6g fat (15.4%), 337.3g carb (71.0%), 5.13g saturated fat, 65.72g fibre, 0.19g sodium. 45 is 2.4%
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Nir
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Posted: 4 April 2008 12:05 am |
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Thursday
Got up around 8.15am and did my best to stay 'rested' so I'd have more energy than Tuesday for my pump class. For food I cooked all of the packets of mixed starchy vegetables I still had from yesterday, hence the large amount of starchy vegetables for today. Much of the rest of the morning was spent worrying about mine and mum and dad's mobile phone cashback deal - we've had no acknowledgement of receipt of our first claim and I decided that sending claims to address A instead of address B might have had major consequences, so lots of paperwork to arrange to re-send. After doing all of that swung by Holland an Barrett - new sale starts today and I picked up another tub of Banana Flavour whey protein (one 2lb tub should last for 3 months based on current consumption levels). Got a text cancelling lift previously offerred to a new OA meeting at a different town which we were going to try due to driver being unwell so found myself spending the evening home instead. At 10.15pm mum showed up with shopping and tales of drama at Tesco with a bargain hunter (luckily not mum) being antagonised by a shop security guard who has taken interest in her non-security-related bargain-shopping activity. The shop manager got involved. The security guard vowed to get revenge over the shopper. Somewhat disconcerting. The shopping was 97p for 7.85kg including lots of Swede, which I love. I am still way behind on almost all online commitments, which is winding me up.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=218
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 1199p banana flavour whey protein(2lb) 57p swede(5.3kg) 20p tomatos(950g) 8p spring-greens(1.1kg) 6p pak-choi(250g) 6p green-beans(250g) £12.96
Veg: 8.4% [159kcal, 840g]: tomato33 beetroot-boiled30 shallot-echalion-raw21 cabbage-leek-TESCO17 romaine-lettuce16 cucumber15 cabbage-boiled12 rocket11 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled5
Fruit: 59.3% [1126kcal, 1964g]: banana749 apple79 orange73 kiwi-fruit69 nectarine66 pear-funsize-tesco46 cantelope-melon36 cranberry-light-tesco7
Starchy: 19.9% [378kcal, 1256g]: veg-soup-mix:carrot-leek-parsnip-celery141 seasonal-veg-selection-value:swede-carrot-potato-leek-onion139 parsnip-boiled62 carrot-raw21 swede-boiled15
Nuts: 11.1% [212kcal, 35g]: cashew-raw-ndat84 almonds50 peanuts-salted-sp39 brazil-nut-HB39
Animals: 1.2% [23kcal, 6g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder23
Rubbish: 0.1% [3kcal, 2g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon3
Totals: [4103g] 1900, 50.9g protein (10.7%), 31.2g fat (14.8%), 353.9g carb (74.5%), 5.11g saturated fat, 62.26g fibre, 0.58g sodium. 26 is 1.4%
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Theresa
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Posted: 4 April 2008 06:35 am |
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| Sounds like exciting things happen in UK stores!
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Nir
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Posted: 4 April 2008 09:59 pm |
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Yes. It is some time ago but I remember being with my mum with a manager of Sainsburys accusing us of putting reduced melons in a trolley and subsequently not purchasing them (something which would be out of character for us - we love melons) and threatened to ban us from the store if we did so again (how can you do again something you have not done? grumble)
Friday
I previously stated my typical fibre intake is 50g but an average of the last month comes in at around 62g.
Good relaxing start to the morning. During this time I was online, also managed to drink one litre of water. I then headed out to a Step class where I drunk another litre. On my way out I heard some music coming out of the other studio. The room had three people who appeared to be taking some dance steps. As I was standing outside looking in I was noticed and motioned to come inside so I joined them. An older guy was leading the other two (a guy and a girl) in some basic steps: first salsa then bachata and merengue (there was no partnerwork). I stayed for an hour. The girl left after half an hour (apparently they recruited her from the gym). The young guy apparently works at the gym and secured the studio, the instructor presuably his friend. When the young guy had to go back to work I had a brief chat with the instructor (who has done his dancing in Venezuela) who was aware of one of our town's salsa venus, telling him of the other 3 salsa nights he might like to check out. It was an interesting and unexpected one hour diversion.
Rob texted in the afternoon to ask what I was up to. Predictably he was drinking in a pub and asked me to join him. I declined. He in turn declined my invitation for him to come over.
After hours exposed once more to the PC (whilst also doing some food preparation and eating) I had some quiet time then headed out to OA where we had 12 people. It was the first birthday of the person I previously mentioned asking me why I don't just stop eating when I'm full instead of counting/weighing. I do like the birthday meetings. I kept having thoughts in my minds about what to share ended up being the last person to share. After the meeting I asked somebody to sponsor me but they said they had too much going on in their lives. I then asked another person - they said it depends if I agree to do it their way we will meet to talk about it some more next Friday night. Obviously that is big news for me.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=219
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 45 min cycle to OA. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 13.9% [265kcal, 1231g]: brussel-sprouts-boiled69 tomato66 cabbage-boiled27 onion-raw26 leek-baby-raw19 cabbage-leek-TESCO15 shallot-echalion-raw14 romaine-lettuce11 chinese-leaf-lettuce10 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled8
Fruit: 69.2% [1315kcal, 2081g]: banana888 pear-funsize-tesco90 apple85 kiwi-fruit78 nectarine71 orange67 cantelope-melon36
Starchy: 0.8% [14kcal, 130g]: swede-boiled14
Nuts: 11.6% [220kcal, 38g]: cashew-raw-ndat178 brazil-nut-HB42
Animals: 4.1% [78kcal, 47g]: turkey-cooked-wafer-thin50 banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.4% [8kcal, 3g]: wafers-ice-cream-ASKEYS6 chewing-gum-honey-lemon3
Totals: [3530g] 1900, 56.6g protein (11.9%), 31.8g fat (15.1%), 346.9g carb (73.0%), 5.60g saturated fat, 51.68g fibre, 0.22g sodium. 86 is 4.5%
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Nir
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Posted: 6 April 2008 09:29 am |
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Saturday
Angela is running in the London Marathon in 8 days (on the 13th) and is supposed to be 'taking it easy' until then so as I was sitting on the stage she joked about me being on the stage. Well I think she was joking. Anyhow she taught the classes but I wonder if she'll let me do that next week - if so I know I'll enjoy it. There is a guy who is progressively increasing their weights and "getting away from me" - well on the squat, chest and back tracks. I'm actually using higher weights than him on triceps. At the same time I'm not ready to go up on those other tracks but I guess my "plan" of gradually increasing calories may eventually help with getting myself stronger.
In the afternoon mum came over with some LIDL shopping.
After last eating before 8am held out till 2pm. Then over next 3 hours slowly ate 664 calories. The food weighed 1934 calories (average 45.3 calories per 100g). A large salad with raw ingredients. Some cooked vegetables. Some cooked starchy vegetables. A couple of tomato-based smoothies (one incorporating lettuce, one incorporating nectarines). Cashew nuts. I was munching through all of this while doing general food-prep chores and keeping up with online things. I was not doing it 'on purpose' but suddenly I felt uncomfortably stuffed. The kind of stuffed that had me instantly give up on what I was eating (the rest of my tomato-nectarine smoothie - putting the rest in the fridge) and go lie down for a 2 hour nap. Woke up and at 7pm and still 1083 calories to eat till the rest of the day.
I'm no where near catching up with the online things I feel I should catch up on but I took a break and instead read a big chunk of Lyle McDonald's 'The Ketogenic Diet' instead, as a treat. I got to Chapter 6 "changes in body composition", he has an interesting ratio formula for figuring out if your diet is ketogenic enough. The answer needs to be at least 1.5: (0.9 fat + 0.46 protein)/(carb + 0.1 fat + 0.58 protein). Also, Mr McDonald believes that to avoid muscle loss during the first 3 weeks of a ketogenic diet you need 150g of protein (this is because at this point your brain does not work on ketones and requires some glucose to function, with 150g of protein providing 87g glucose - with some more glucose being derived glycerol). Or less protein and more carbohydrate (for every 10g of extra carbs you can reduce protein by 17.24g) but watch how such changes will affect the ketogenic ratio above. Mr McDonald's work is from the same time period as Dr Atkins, but Atkins never gives the reader any credit and does not provide explanations or scientific references.
In other news, I found out how to do this:
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=220
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Combat, 60 min Body Pump. 2 hours.
Shopping: 40p red-onions(1.5kg) 26p aubergine(400g). £0.66
Veg: 16.8% [319kcal, 1523g]: spring-greens-cabbage-boiled47 tomato46 cauliflower-boiled37 cherry-tomato35 onion-raw33 mange-tout-raw32 stringless-beans-raw23 shallot-echalion-raw20 broccoli-boiled18 aubergine-boiled15 batavia-lettuce8 celery-raw5
Fruit: 56.6% [1076kcal, 2166g]: banana469 orange139 kiwi-fruit135 nectarine135 pear-funsize-tesco103 apple87 cranberry-light-tesco8
Starchy: 12.0% [228kcal, 529g]: potato-baked86 jerusalem-artichoke84 carrot-raw35 swede-boiled22
Nuts: 12.8% [244kcal, 41g]: cashew-raw-ndat84 almonds67 brazil-nut-HB48 sunflower-seed-hulled45
Animals: 1.5% [28kcal, 7g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.3% [5kcal, 3g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [4269g] 1900, 62.0g protein (13.1%), 32.8g fat (15.6%), 339.1g carb (71.4%), 5.30g saturated fat, 64.66g fibre, 0.10g sodium. 33 is 1.7%
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Nir
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Posted: 6 April 2008 09:41 pm |
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Sunday
Not constipated as such but woke up with weight on the heavy side and decided to drink 3 litres of water during the early part of the day to encourage more movement (drunk just over a litre at the workouts, too).
Shortly before 5pm mum showed up with 7.11kg of produce for £2.64 - I had time to freeze some grapes before heading out for great workouts, dealing with the rest when I got back home. Fridges are plesently full.
I've switched back to reading 'ultimate diet 2.0'.
7 day food shopping totals: 1.02 + 0 + 3.63 + 12.96 + 0 + 0.66 + 2.64 = £20.91
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=221
Exercise: [PM] 45 min Body Step, 60 min Body Pump. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 90p cauliflower(2kg)broccoli(1.4kg) 40p red-grapes(1kg) 36p green-beans(750g) 29p asparagus(400g) 20p brussel-sprouts(630g) 20p peas(90g)runner-beans(70g) 18p galia-melon(640g) 11p chicory(220g). £2.64
Veg: 15.0% [285kcal, 1350g]: pea-frozen-SP61 tomato49 cherry-tomato35 asparagus-boiled34 mushroom-common-raw24 shallot-echalion-raw24 cabbage-boiled23 aubergine-boiled22 runner-beans-boiled13
Fruit: 68.2% [1296kcal, 2131g]: banana671 grapes185 nectarine181 apple132 pear-funsize-tesco113 galia-melon13
Starchy: 1.2% [23kcal, 205g]: swede-boiled23
Nuts: 13.7% [261kcal, 45g]: pumpkin-seed-hb78 almonds69 cashew-raw-ndat59 peanuts-dry-roasted36 brazil-nut-HB19
Animals: 1.5% [28kcal, 7g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.4% [8kcal, 4g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon8
Totals: [3742g] 1900, 55.9g protein (11.8%), 32.5g fat (15.4%), 346.1g carb (72.9%), 5.20g saturated fat, 54.56g fibre, 0.10g sodium. 36 is 1.9%
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suenos
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Posted: 7 April 2008 06:15 am |
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| Ha! Finally managed to click onto your diary without the computer rudely booting me offline! Only got to read the present page though 'cause I don't know what the problem was before and don't want to tempt the 'puter gods toooo much.....so I see you're reading Lyle McD again.....can't imagine how you square his theories with those of ETL - two more radical extremes in dietary approaches I can't imagine! But to be honest I tend to lean far more to L.M's approach ....partly because I'm into heavy lifting so it has more direct applicability to me in terms of body recomposition...and partly because his research is always exhaustive and dead spot on and he provides the specific studies that he relies on to form his theories so I can research the exact same sources and see if I personally make the same interpretation - or not. Last edited on 7 April 2008 06:16 am by suenos
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Theresa
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Posted: 7 April 2008 07:06 am |
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I think you should offer to stand in take some classes when the instructors are off. That way you can see if you enjoy doing it and then if you do earn some money while doing what you were going to do anyway. With not an ounce of fat on your body you definately will be a good example and an encouragement for others. 
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Nir
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Posted: 7 April 2008 10:20 pm |
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Monday
Poor sleep patterns. Almost decided to skip Spin but ended up going anyhow. Forgot my MP3 player at home - was on phone to mum when getting out of the door, by the time that conversation was over it was too late so had some enforced silence/meditation whilst cycling over to the gym. Sweated more than last week. Had a nice chat with my OA friend who did the same class (touching upon my on/off ambition to be an instructor).
Theresa, unfortunately it is not as simple as that. Although I'm a qualified Exercise To Music instructor, I am not a Body Training Systems (FitPro) instructor, whilst all the classes I go to (except for Spin) are BTS classes. So I don't have a BTS license. And for the moment I'm not going to spend the required amount of £££ money going on the relevant training courses.
Suenos, you are right - some ideas are somewhat difficult to merge, protein being the obvious one and amounts of animal protein a close second. Yes, I like the fact that there are references (and who knows I might even try following one of them one of those days: but unlike you I don't have universal access to academic papers). Even though I am more an ETL person than anything else, I think the prescribed training would be the bigger hurdle for me (I choose exercise in social settings). So I'm mainly reading for education: but I am not ruling out the possibility of doing a modified low-carb thing to test its effectiveness on myself.
On a separate matter - you wrote (in miss katz diary) about the coincidence of discovering health properties of foods and wanting to eat them. I think I've had a "rougher ride" in terms of discovering foods are unhealthy for me and giving them up!
I'm having video urodynamics (again) mid-May and I had to call the hospital to arrange to see my consultant the week after. I first got an appointment for the right date and then called somebody with more power to shift it to later on in the day so I can catch a cheaper train (and save at least £10). After some discussion with mum we decided that between now and May I'll go back on one of my medications (bladder relaxant) to see if it has any positive effects on my symptoms - I'll then take myself off it again in preparation for the urodynamics test.
Today I was feeling generally disatisfied with the quality of friendships I have in 'real life'. I feel I know my OA friends on a better level than anybody else. Rob got me wondering through some shops with him for just under an hour. Supposedly a win for me as it meant I wasn't being dragged to a pub, but it only confirmed how I was already feeling. The theme changed a little as I was then thinking about things that might make me odd. One thing is my current relationship with music: I only exercise when music is playing and I hardly ever hear music unless I am working out so they are coupled to each other. Also I consume so much of the text on my computer screen as computer-generated voice, and a significant part of it on my MP3 player whilst cycling, shopping, waiting for a gym class to start etc - I am guessing that hardly anyone else does this. Mind you thinking about it I don't personally know anyone who counts their calories - but those of you reading this paragraph are statistically more likely to be doing so compared with the average person.
The 'DELETE' key has now fallen off my laptop keyboard. That makes 5 missing keys!
In other news, I cut out all nuts and seeds to see what it would do to my percentages. Fat ended up at 5.6% of calories. 83.4% of calories from carbohydrates. Does that count as a low-fat, high-carb diet?
EDIT: the experiment continues. After 3 uneventful weeks at 1900 calories (after 7 weeks at 1800), I'm increasing calories as of tomorrow to 2000.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=222
Exercise: [AM] 45 min Spin, [PM] 60 min Body Combat. 1.75 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 15.1% [286kcal, 1314g]: cherry-tomato71 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled57 broccoli-boiled38 mange-tout-raw34 asparagus-boiled31 fine-whole-beans-raw25 leek-baby-raw23 pak-choi7
Fruit: 76.2% [1447kcal, 2447g]: banana714 grapes335 pear-funsize-tesco150 apple88 nectarine86 galia-melon74
Starchy: 7.0% [133kcal, 562g]: jerusalem-artichoke62 swede-boiled44 carrot-raw27
Animals: 1.5% [28kcal, 8g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Rubbish: 0.3% [5kcal, 3g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [4334g] 1900, 52.5g protein (11.0%), 11.7g fat (5.6%), 396.2g carb (83.4%), 1.58g saturated fat, 58.32g fibre, 0.03g sodium. 33 is 1.7%
Last edited on 7 April 2008 10:33 pm by Nir
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suenos
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Posted: 8 April 2008 04:29 am |
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Nir wrote:
EDIT: the experiment continues. After 3 uneventful weeks at 1900 calories (after 7 weeks at 1800), I'm increasing calories as of tomorrow to 2000.
Ohhh, now I'm annoyed (at my computer not you LOL) because your dietary experiments always facinate me and I don't have a clue what this one is about because I can't read backwards in you diary. Brief recap pretty please - what's the experiment?
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Nir
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Posted: 8 April 2008 06:26 am |
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| Well whilst I was doing the full time college course (which I am no longer doing) I did 3 low calorie (and sometimes lower-carb) days at 1400 calories. So from January 30th I stabalised at 1800 calories for 7 weeks. Yet during the period of late February / early March I had a gym lay-off for 9 days (and did not adust calories downward). This seems to have been the catalyst for some weight loss. This suggests that 1800 might be too little for me when I am exercising - so I am therefore experimenting with doing the same, except this time instead of reducing exercise I am increasing calories. I guess I want to 'rediscover' what my effective maintenance level is but if I start gaining then I won't necessarily panic (reasoning that with my 4 hours of weight training per week, some of it is bound to be muscle).
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Nir
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Posted: 8 April 2008 07:13 am |
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Nir wrote: Animals: 1.5% [28kcal, 8g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder28
Totals: [4334g] 1900
Something I wanted to point out for a while. The question how vegan am I can be answered either by calorie or by weight. The later one is the more impressive-looking.      
by calorie: 1 - 28/1900 = 98.526%
by weight: 1 - 8/4334 = 99.815%
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Nir
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Posted: 8 April 2008 04:32 pm |
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I have just re-read this rather memorable article, called 'The Fast Supper'
http://nymag.com/news/features/23169/
The wierd thing is that on the second reading it makes more sense, I have even seen posts by some of the characters in the article.
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sunshine
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Posted: 8 April 2008 05:35 pm |
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Hey Nir...I found your diary...thanks...I think! lol
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Nir
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Posted: 8 April 2008 10:49 pm |
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Tuesday
Unusually my vegetables weighed more than my fruit. Mind you this does not mean I cut down on my fruit today - every day is "fruit day" on my plan (hi Sunshine  !).
Got up and rushed over to the gym for a good pump class. In the afternoon mum came over with gifts of a yellow-pepper(160g) and courgettes(370g).
One of today's blog entries on the Eat To Live blog ( http://www.diseaseproof.com ) was making fun of Atkins die-hard blogger Jimmie Moore ( http://www.livinlavidalocarb.blogspot.com ). I already have a problem with what this guy is saying, but now that I've been watching some of his You Tube output ( http://www.youtube.com/user/livinlowcarbman ) I found him to also be incredibly annoying. In fact I would appreciate input from anybody reading this state-side: is this guy annoying or does he seem like the average people you know? Either way, a few months ago this guy found himself with a problem: he makes his living from his blog website, including advertising. He was actively promoting the Kimkins diet and then there was a lot of bad publicity about people following that plan who were instructed to eat 500 calories a day, whilst the website owner had false photos and in fact is still obese whilst apparently following her own plan. This occupied most of the rest of the day.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=223
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump. 1 hour.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 27.5% [549kcal, 2391g]: beetroot-boiled73 cherry-tomato72 brussel-sprouts-boiled49 onion-raw46 cauliflower-boiled40 pepper-yellow-raw40 mushroom-common-raw35 fine-whole-beans-raw33 broccoli-boiled30 leek-baby-raw29 cabbage-boiled28 stringless-beans-raw28 chicory20 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled18 pak-choi9
Fruit: 50.3% [1007kcal, 2197g]: apple293 banana236 pear-funsize-tesco181 nectarine139 grapes84 galia-melon74
Starchy: 16.7% [335kcal, 535g]: potato-baked217 carrot-raw66 jerusalem-artichoke52
Nuts: 3.2% [65kcal, 11g]: cashew-raw-ndat41 brazil-nut-HB24
Animals: 2.0% [39kcal, 10g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder39
Rubbish: 0.3% [5kcal, 3g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon5
Totals: [5148g] 2000, 71.1g protein (14.2%), 21.7g fat (9.7%), 380.1g carb (76.0%), 2.84g saturated fat, 80.36g fibre, 0.04g sodium. 44 is 2.2%
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missfit
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Posted: 8 April 2008 11:25 pm |
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| I am truly in awe of your level of self-control. Your diet seems so sound and healthy. I hope one day some of that will rub off on me. Good job!!
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Nir
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Posted: 9 April 2008 04:55 am |
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| Thank you for this Oscar. I want to give credit to Overeaters Anonymous (http://www.oa.org) without whom none of this would be possible . Thanks also go to a Higher Power (whichever way I chose to define it)
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morbidlemon
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Posted: 9 April 2008 12:08 pm |
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Hang on, did that guy [Jimmie Moore] just say that it's only in the last 100 or even 50 years that we've introduced grains into our diet?
I'm cringing.
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Nir
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Posted: 9 April 2008 12:26 pm |
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| Thanks for the support but I am still wondering whether this is just the 'British reaction' and for all we know, this guy is very likeable for a US public. (And how about those sound effects?)
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morbidlemon
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Posted: 9 April 2008 12:42 pm |
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Well based on my experiences of american culture, particularly from watching what the TV is like over there when I went to San Diego a few years ago, I imagine he's pretty normal... What I've seen of Turbo Jam is the same, it feels really gimmicky and has sound effects too. Obviously I'm not putting this stuff down in any way, it's not marketed for the British public.
I don't know if it's because we both speak English and we share a lot of similarities, but it's easy to forget that they're just as foreign as any other country.
So I imagine that this is just a painfully British reaction. 
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zenobia
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Posted: 9 April 2008 10:19 pm |
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