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Nir
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Posted: 5 March 2008 11:11 pm |
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Indeed thanks to everyone for caring!
And yes it is great to be back in the gym, perhaps I should have called myself 'obsessed with fitness' after all that name was still available back when I joined 
Wednesday
Got up rather early and did online things (whilst eating). Planned to divide my 1800 into 6 meals: one pre-gym meal, two meals during my time back between 11-3pm, one meal in the 5-6.30pm gap and two meals between 8.30pm and bedtime. Inevitably the double-meals ended up being merged together and stretched, so I guess I had 4 'meals'.
Enjoyed step even though there was a bit of tension between myself and instructor Jo regarding whether I'd be using higher step level for speed-step and the final peak. We were over-subscribed and one person brought an older step from another room - yet this was a step you could not take down to the zero level for speed step: so I 'helpfully' swapped steps with that girl, so she could be on level zero whilst I was on level 1. Jo said something in my direction. Interestingly she did not tell off another participant who was also on level one. Ditto for the final track (another gym member was also on 2 risers).
Project for the day seems to involve exploring http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CRsupportgroup/files/
Counseling was OK but I need to think about deciding what to give priority to in case I don't receive this service indefinitely.
At 6pm I shut down the computer and the lights and day-dreamed for half an hour. I felt weak and without motivation as I was heading out though luckily transformed on the way to combat. Hannah (future combat instructor currently just a participant) is back from her USA stint, and this was my first class with top instructor Angela (who has been very ill over the last week and is finally recovered). The class was fantastic, twice as good as Monday's Combat.
Made contact with mum who brought over shopping. Normally I trust her judgement on bargain hunting but she was surprised that I thought that one of the items (blackberries) was a bit pricey for me, DESPITE being priced at 9% of its original price (workout out 100p per kilo). Overall got 9.7kg for £3.22 (average 33p per kilo).
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=189
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Step, [PM] 30 min cycle to counselling, 60 min Body Combat. 2.5 hours.
Shopping: 60p blackberries(1.3kg) 36p cucumber(3kg) 34p cauliflower(800g) 25p plum(540g) 24p spring-greens(500g) 20p butternut-squash(660g) 20p rhubarb(430g) 20p pineapple(360g) 20p button-mushrooms(300g) 17p orange(670g) 16p monster-mushrooms(330g) 14p cabbage-leek(300g) 9p broccoli(180g)cauliflower(160g) 7p kale(200g). £3.22
Veg: 9.7% [175kcal, 713g]: spring-greens-cabbage-boiled47 brussel-sprouts-boiled35 asparagus-boiled29 broccoli-boiled25 beans-green-boiled23 cauliflower-boiled17
Fruit: 52.6% [947kcal, 2151g]: banana353 mango167 apple106 nectarine83 fig-fresh72 mandarins59 raspberries55 cantelope-melon40 cranberry-light11
Starchy: 17.5% [315kcal, 606g]: butternut-squash-boiled163 sweet-potato-boiled82 potato-baked70
Nuts: 12.6% [226kcal, 39g]: cashew-raw-ndat74 peanuts-dry-roasted58 peanuts-salted-sp39 sunflower-seed-hulled32 brazil-nut-HB23
Animals: 6.4% [116kcal, 31g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder116
Rubbish: 1.2% [21kcal, 12g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon21
Totals: [3552g] 1800, 75.6g protein (16.8%), 30.5g fat (15.2%), 305.9g carb (68.0%), 4.25g saturated fat, 56.16g fibre, 0.21g sodium. 137 is 7.6%
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Theresa
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Posted: 6 March 2008 04:55 am |
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It's great that you are back to your normal workouts etc. I hope the operation has done what it needed to to make your life easier.
Reading through your diary always makes me feel guilty for not eating enough veggies. I will seriously have to up my veggie intake again and drop the sandwiches a bit. 
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hoofprints
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Posted: 6 March 2008 07:21 pm |
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Glad to read you are back to exercise and feeling better. Good thing you never gave up posting through the whole experience...we would have gone into shock.
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 12:08 am |
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My opinion is that the operation has not worked at all and once a short time period has elapsed everyone (including the consultant and mum) will agree that the way ahead is to go back to 'plan A', the original bladder enlargement operation that was planned. Unfortunately in recent days I've had to argue with mum who seems to think that maybe this operation has worked but the benefits will only show with time and patience. My instinct is that she's wrong.
The last time I stopped posting was during that pivotal 35-day binge period in 2006. Not posting is not good news for me!
Thursday
Breakfast was lots of veggies and a couple of fruit smoothies, and I took out both plastic containers and plastic bags out to be recycled on my way out, also visiting the 'nut stores' (Julian Graves and Holland and Barret) on my way to the gym. A bit funny the way I insist on keeping tabs on sales at HB, especially of Whey Powder, given that sometimes I have thoughts like "once I'm finished with my current supply of Whey I shouldn't buy any more" this was previously related to its cost and more recently to my aim of eating less animal protein (see Eat To Live).
Got to pump and felt slightly ganged-up upon. I thought I'd be late so I texted ahead asking to be 'set up' but the weight selection was certainly not my usual weights - Michelle and Marie had decided I was to take it easy. Both of them were absent on Tuesday when I survived a pump workout at almost my regular weights and I certainly wasn't going to take it as low as they had in mind for me! Obviously they both meant well (and I don't think Michelle realised about my operations being swapped). Luckily I was early enough to get some more weights for my station and have a good workout.
Between noon and 2pm ate lots of fruit smoothies whilst simultaneously online; then napped for a bit. Mum came over to sell some Kale and give 210g of orange peppers as a gift. I continued eating till 5pm. Headed out for a step class getting back at 6.30pm for a final half-hour eating marathon, finshing my 1800 calories by 7pm (have to fast for 14 hour for blood test tomorrow) squeezing all my calories into a shorter eating time means indulging in foods without having to 'wait' for calories. Sampled every type of fruit have in stock on this rather fruit-heavy day (2780g ~6lb and 70% of calories). Also tried a 'green smoothie' for the first time in a long while, mixing 200g of raw kale with a frozen nectarine. Went to bed early (8-11pm) but am now up again for a bit.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=190
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Pump, [PM] 30 min Body Step. 1.5 hours.
Shopping: 7p kale(200g). £0.07
Veg: 12.9% [233kcal, 1116g]: kale-raw66 brussel-sprouts-boiled32 pepper-orange-raw26 asparagus-boiled25 broccoli-boiled22 beans-green-boiled21 rhubarb19 mushroom-common-boiled11 cucumber10
Fruit: 69.4% [1250kcal, 2780g]: banana437 apple163 mango139 nectarine124 blackberries113 orange83 pineapple77 mandarins56 plum-british-lightred48 cranberry-light10
Nuts: 11.3% [203kcal, 34g]: cashew-raw-ndat63 monkey-nuts52 brazil-nut-HB47 almonds41
Animals: 6.2% [112kcal, 30g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder112
Rubbish: 0.1% [3kcal, 2g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon3
Totals: [3962g] 1800, 75.0g protein (16.7%), 31.0g fat (15.5%), 305.1g carb (67.8%), 5.09g saturated fat, 65.86g fibre, 0.90g sodium. 115 is 6.4%
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Peter
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Posted: 7 March 2008 05:37 am |
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Sorry to hear you don't think it's successful. There's no telling how similar mine was -- a simple cut (or two?) in the neck of the bladder to release some of the pressure. But it took effect right away.
My ex-roommate is a urology nurse if you ever want me to ask him any questions. Just be real specific and don't ask for a diagnosis. Just a question such as might your mum be right.
I just posted in my Diet Buddy forum that after weeks of cutting back on diet soda things are going well and it won't be long before I'm completely off it. I mention this because my ex-roommate always cautioned me that the huge amount of the stuff I drank could possibly contribute to my history of urinary problems as it can irritate the "plumbing."
It's only one of so many reasons I'm glad I'm quitting.
My puppy got his first haircut today and my camera was still out when I made my dinner, so just for the fun of it I took a picture! Nir, I think it would be really interesting to see a picture of some of your meals. Or perhaps a display of a day's food supply.
Hope things go better soon!
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 07:47 am |
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Peter, the questions I'd most like you to forward to Lane would be:
1) after my last 2 cystoscopies and this latest Bladder Neck Incision I actually feel more constricted than before the procedure (with associated pain whilst I pee, penis in discomfort if touched and when not hanging down and erections cause pain and are best avoided), going by the last 2 events I seem to recover from this 2-3 weeks after the operation, does all of that sound normal?
2) somebody had a theory that bladder neck incision would have the novel side-effect that a previously 'pushy' bladder would not need to push as hard post-op and therefore relax and become less 'unstable' and therefore might relieve my urgency/frequency symptoms, the questions: does that sound like a tennable proposition, and how long would you imagine the time-scale for this such an effect to occur (immediately? a month? 3 months? 6 months? a year?)
I used to be an addict of diet soda. Due to cost considerations I used to purchase large amounts of non-brand cola and lemonade flavoured drinks in 2-litre bottles in quantities that would require mum's assistance (car transport). Sometimes we would do a 30-bottle "run". Concerns about caffeine saw me switching from cola to lemonade. Something about the carbonation would make me open the fridge and gulp more many times during the day (and memorably also in the middle of the night). I gradually stopped, partly outraged by cost (even though it only ran to about 21p per 2 litre bottle). I still don't drink water: I currently drink "no added sugar Apple & Blaccurrant Squash" which is sweetned with Aspartame and Saccharin, but I mainly drink this to replace fluids during workouts rather than sipping it at all times of the day and night. Obviously the next health step is water but I don't feel the need to go there just yet.
Seeing a low morning weight this morning has prompted me to review. The slow-moving "weighted moving average" seems to tell me that in recent weeks I've lost a pound. What could this mean?
I have a couple of ideas for interpreting the data:
1) perhaps I've been consistently low-sodium since I stopped eating multiple servings of meat and fish every day (i.e. just water loss)
2) perhaps re-feeds work: although I did not increase calories there were 9 days between my pre-op (February 23rd) and post-op (March 3rd) workouts and my calories were above-maintenance (by 100 calories) during this period!
I imagine photographing a day's food supply will be very time-consuming, tedious and obsessive but I've decided to embrace the challenge, for one day.
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Theresa
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Posted: 7 March 2008 08:16 am |
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It's s...... salter? What is the one above the squash? 
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 11:21 am |
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Salter-branded kitchen food digital scales, calliberated to 1 gram and weigh up to 2 kilos of food.
I also use these precision scales (these measure to the nearest 0.01g and weigh up to 100g)
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 12:33 pm |
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A frozen mango smoothie (made with banana-flavour Whey Powder)
Notice that when whipped the fruit grows in volume by a factor of 2.5. The food processor bowl has volume of 2600ml.
Next up: plums and blackberries.
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Beth
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Posted: 7 March 2008 01:41 pm |
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Nir, I'm still glad you are still on the mend. I do hope the final outcome of your surgery will be some type of success.
I've picked up on some good things on your post plus Peter's replies. I plan to get the ETL book today. I'm also noticing in y'all's pictures that you don't have a piece of animal meat stuck in every picture. I think I need to back off the animal meat even more. It's the old southern traditions, I think, that make me think I'm not doing it right if there's not a meat, veg, bread, and dessert. Why not eat a plate of peas on a lovely table setting for dinner?
At my house, drastic measures must be taken. My husband will die of heart disease if he doesn't get a grip and start changing his eating patterns and exercising now. He just had another heart cath and his Dr. laid it on the line for him. I can attest first- hand that the old ways of the South aren't working at our house.
Anyway, thanks to you both for sharing.
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Theresa
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Posted: 7 March 2008 02:29 pm |
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Your smoothies all look like yummy pudding  I really think that if you try drink a litre of water a day it will help your bladder even more. I never ever drank water until I came to Uganda and I can definately see a difference in my skin tone. C'mon give it a try for a week! 
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Peter
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Posted: 7 March 2008 04:15 pm |
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wm of our forums came and visited for a month a couple years ago and was a virtual ETL veggie machine. It was amazing how much he could eat because the calories were so low. And healthy. (Though I have to snicker as he could never resist sharing some of my nightly chocolate chip cookies I was having at the time. It was while I was reading ETL, and getting ready mentally to try it. Mentally ready with daily cookies, haha.)
I must say I think my dinner looks more attractive to me, but to each his own. I didn't think wm's smoothies looked good either.
About your questions... I will forward them to both Lane and his ex-boss. Don't know what I'll get back.
About your pictures... that's fun to see. But I just have a standard size screen and when you post such big pictures I have to scroll horizontally to see them and read all the text. If you could keep them to 600 or so wide it would be great. Or e-mail them to me and I'll do it for you. Not real important. But I suspect you have a wider screen and don't see the problem.
About the water... I'm amazed you don't drink water. I would think that would be one of the first questions I would ask anyone with a urological problem. Though obviously you drink plenty of fluids.
Peter
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Beth
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Posted: 7 March 2008 04:32 pm |
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| I have to admit I've gotten some chuckles from some of the food pictures. I love this site. There is never a dull moment. So many people doing so many different creative things. I'm so OCD, my fork and knife have to be placed properly even on a tv tray. To others a few seeds and smushed whatever hanging off the sides is just fine. I love it!
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 04:56 pm |
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Beth, that is great to hear. I'm glad the Eat To Live message lives on in my posts, as it was Peter and wm's posts here that got me reading the book in the first place!
Theresa, they are indeed yummy (even the green one - look out for a picture in a few hours). Hmmm isn't the diluted squash almost water, save for the tiny amounts of chemicals mixed in? I guess I'm kidding a little. As I've said, I will eventually do water, though I'm not ready yet.
Peter,
Cookies: at the moment I appear to be on a 'health-rebound' which means I am attoning for bad percentages I scored (for example when I was in hospital) by keeping my eating quite 'clean'.
There's nothing wrong with your dinner (er, I'd pass on the bread, at the moment) but is that all you're eating for dinner? I need *QUANTITY*. I've just looked at my numbers and my food so far adds up to 2926g. (Ok technically this includes 200g of cranberry juice but we're still talking massive amounts. Pictures of the missing foods will follow when I get back from OA!)
Thanks for passing my questions on!
My resolution is 1280 by 800 and I still have to scroll over to the right to see my pictures. Actually it already takes a bit of effort to get this pictures here:
1) take pictures
2) copy them from mobile phone to hard disk
3) upload them to photobucket
4) obtain photobucket links to insert in item
but if you would like to use your special 'Founder' privileges to edit my diary and seemlessly replace the large pictures with smaller ones, you are very welcome to do so (if you do View>Source you should see the <IMG> tags with the photobucket URLs)
One more thing, and a novel one at that: mum phoned today to ask a technical computer question. Something wrong with her browser - she needed to scroll horizontally to see some web page. The punchline is that it was none other than this page and mum is apparently a very occassional reader. (Hi mum!)
Ok, if I don't start getting ready now I'll be late for my OA meeting. About 1200 calories consumed so far. Expect lots more pictures upon my return.
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 7 March 2008 05:14 pm |
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If you want to e-mail your pics I'll resize them and send them back. Otherwise I don't want to mess with your posts. Hmm. There must be a place you can do that on-line. ?
Hi Mum!
About the size of my dinner... remember I eat MANY times during the day. About an hour earlier, I had a stack of Rye Krisps (very healthy, good tasting whole rye crackers) with some low fat cheese. Then just after "dinner" I went back to my PC with a big bowl full of grapes. And even later I had my bedtime snack, strawberry jam on whole wheat bread with a glass of milk.
While making "dinner," I snack on carrots or raw cashews or almonds or drink V8 juice. And lastly, my dinner consisted of what the label describes as three serving of peas, plus a whole small can of mushrooms.
I have always described my diet has being highly influenced by ETL, though not strictly ETL. Though I always like to remind people that the ETL diet plan can include meats. Also I have never made a single ETL recipe... I like to joke that I just eat the ingredients!
Peter
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Beth
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Posted: 7 March 2008 06:34 pm |
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Hubby and I are going to look for ETL at Books a Million today. Seems hubby is on somewhat on board for trying to get healthy after I've threatened to kill him for two days if he doesn't get on board. ETL may be a little too strict for us. I wish I'd spent the money on ETL before I bought Kevin Trudeau's latest hype. Oh well, live and learn. Live and learn. Trudeau is ok, I guess. I was just left feeling a little frustrated with the cleanses and shots I don't feel like pursuing. It's just a little too over the top for me.
I'm kind of like you, Peter. On the good days, I graze all day long on healthy things. I want to have a little something at dinner to say I've had dinner. Seems like I don't feel cheated that way.
Nir, all that work at the gym is to be admired. I've got to work up to it. Thanks for the inspiration.
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 10:31 pm |
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The picture-story above takes us up to 1.05pm.
1.30pm: cucumber, lettuce, pepper, mushroom
received some vegetables and fruit that mum didn't want:
1.4kg mushrooms, 1.1kg broccoli, 850g courgettes, 180g runner-beans, 160g spring-onion, 130g asparagus
480g peaches, 390g kiwi-fruit, 320g frozen raspberries
3.11pm: wasted little time using the frozen raspberries in a smoothie (raspberries are tangy so I use artificial sweetner)
3.23pm: sweet potato
received 10 tomatos (540g) - part of mum's most recent shopping
4:00pm: green smoothie experiment with frozen raw kale, frozen pineapple and frozen orange: this is my 2nd attempt at a green smoothie. This time I froze the Kale too
4.07pm: potato wedges
4.38pm: cabbage and leek, spring greens, asparagus, brussel sprouts
4.43pm: parsnip
5pm: raw nuts and seeds: brazil, almond, cashew, 'monkey nuts' (peanuts), pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds
this brought calories from fat up from 9% up to 20% (they'll then go down again as I consume more low-fat plant food)
5.27pm: smoothie with frozen apples and nectarines
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 10:41 pm |
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It turns out my camera-phone can also take low-resolution pictures.
On the cycle-ride home from OA I picked up some jerusalem artichokes dad had previously picked at the allotment. They were covered in lots of mud. They weighed 1.6kg once most of the mud was washed off.
10.16pm: cooked the smallest jerusalem artichokes
10.36pm: frozen peach smoothie
10.46pm: frozen tomato smoothie
10.55pm: dry-roasted peanuts
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 11:00 pm |
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11.49pm: frozen bananas
I'll be chewing some gum overnight:
To see food analysis for the day,
click http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=191
Last edited on 7 March 2008 11:32 pm by Nir
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Nir
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Posted: 7 March 2008 11:37 pm |
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Friday
Got up at 8am and went online, wrote my post (above, includes graphing recent weight trend and figuring out how to use my phone as a camera) got ready and hurried out towards the health centre to do a fasted blood test. The health centre has a brand-new automated system for booking yourself in but it had teething problems. Got the nurse to tick a bunch of tests I want done and as an afterthought asked for a urine test too.
Cycled onwards to gym, dividing the next 45 minutes between the Sauna and sitting and reading Eat To Live outside the studio. I think one of the managers tried to engage me in conversation but I wasn't listening, merely acknowledged him. I wonder if this is a 'fear of authority' still remaining as a result of my altercations with staff at my former gym that ultimately saw me finding a new gym. Perhaps he was trying to tell me that the Step class was cancelled - anyhow this was conveyed to others a short while later and I decided to head home to actually eat some breakfast. This will be a 'rest' day (save for cycling) but never mind.
The nurse called to give an early indication of possible urine infection. When told about this mum latched on to the idea as great news - reasoning that my exagerrated urology symptoms may be down to infection rather than failure of the recent procedure. It was quite comical as I got her to agree that she hopes I have a really bad urine infection
Later in the afternoon mum showed up with the results of her fridge clear-out and then an hour or two later with some 10 tomatos that were part of a recent batch she purchased for £1 (claiming they were rather generous with their quantity) - her 2nd visit came just as I was trying to make my kale-centred green smoothie which we briefly discussed. At around 8.30pm when cycling home from OA I picked up some jerusalem artichokes that dad has been keeping in the boot of his car. Altogether today I acquired 7.15kg (almost 16lb) of produce!
Yesterday I decided to take successive 2x500mg doses of paracetamol every 8 hours instead of every 6 hours. Today I've decided to stretch this to every 14 hours and I hope I don't regret this!
Unusually I was the only guy at the 8-strong OA meeting where myself and only 4 others shared. There was one newcomer and about 30 minutes of post-meeting chat. Not a bad meeting but bits of me were freezing on the way back.
I managed to survive the photograph-everything-you-eat challenge, though it took up most of my day. Unlike weighing and measuring, this is not a habit I can imagine continuing for the rest of my life, though now that I have the technology I guess I might slip in the odd photograph here and there.
Another day with great ETL percentages, more protein than I need due to Whey Powder, food was heavy at 3881g, with fruits dominating in weight (2419g) and calories.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=191
Exercise: [AM] 45 min cycle to health centre and gym, [PM] 45 min cycle to OA and parents. 1.5 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 13.6% [245kcal, 1120g]: kale-raw66 tomato46 brussel-sprouts-boiled37 pepper-orange-raw30 cabbage-leek-TESCO14 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled13 mushroom-common-boiled13 asparagus-boiled11 cucumber9 batavia-lettuce4
Fruit: 57.7% [1038kcal, 2419g]: banana358 mango137 raspberries82 nectarine80 pineapple77 apple71 peaches70 blackberries57 plum-british-lightred48 orange48 cranberry-light10
Starchy: 11.5% [207kcal, 273g]: potato-baked85 jerusalem-artichoke50 sweet-potato-boiled44 parsnip-boiled27
Nuts: 10.1% [181kcal, 31g]: peanuts-dry-roasted49 monkey-nuts21 almonds21 sesame-seed-JS19 sunflower-seed-hulled19 brazil-nut-HB19 pumpkin-seed-hb17 cashew-raw-ndat15
Animals: 6.4% [116kcal, 31g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder116
Rubbish: 0.7% [13kcal, 8g]: chewing-gum-honey-lemon13
Totals: [3881g] 1800, 76.5g protein (17.0%), 30.0g fat (15.0%), 306.1g carb (68.0%), 4.29g saturated fat, 65.35g fibre, 0.30g sodium. 129 is 7.2%
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 8 March 2008 12:22 am |
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I'm speechless to see all that food!
Hope your mum is right and the bad news is good news!
Peter
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Theresa
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Posted: 8 March 2008 07:45 am |
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I really must try eat more veggies! At least seeing all those veggies has put me in the mood for veggies for the rest of the day. Butternut, here I come! Although I must say my breakfast was a huge fattening omelette with toast that was 580 calories. This was even after being aware and making it with 1 full egg and 1 egg white only and 1 oz of cheese. Instead of fish and chips I will be having fish and beetroot salad later.
Yesterday I ended on 1900 calories due to eating way too many rice crisps  Hopefully I can try stick to 1600 for today and tomorrow and then use friday as my maintenance day, then all is well in the land of Theresa's food diary.
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Nir
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Posted: 8 March 2008 11:56 pm |
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I love butternut squash, had it a few days ago.
Saturday
Woke up, made myself a couple of smoothies and headed out to the gym. Had a shower.
Then had a great combat class (took a picture of who was behind me. Incidentally this picture features at least one person I've recently mentioned)
I was number 10 on the waiting list for pump so I was afraid I'd be turned away, but there was no register call and everyboy who turned up was able to participate.
A member has returned to exercise after giving birth. She brought a box of 'Celebration' and Angela went around the room distributing it during the stretch track. I weighed my piece as soon as I could get to a scale - shortly after the class, in the changing room:
I changed and then enjoyed the jaccusi and sauna, both of which are closed from tomorrow for almost 2 weeks for refurbishment. I headed directly home, where I was greeted by some very muddy jerusalem artichokes which weighed 6.4kg - once washed they weighed 5.4kg!
It has been two weeks since I tended to the refrigerated apples. There were quite a few casualties amongst those previously fine-looking apples, they go bad so quickly! I rescued the bits I could:
Earlier in the day I finished all previously-prepared vegetables and started to cook and prepare more vegetables so they are stored in a ready-to-eat state:
My brother is briefly in the country (today and tomorrow). He phoned to ask if I wanted to do something together, perhaps go out for a meal. I reminded him of his conduct at the family Christmas meal. However other than ruling out a dine-out experience I was friendly and we carried talking on the phone for well over an hour. We might do something tomorrow so I guess plenty of chance for something to still go wrong this time around.
I've taken pictures of pretty much everything I've eaten today but I'm leaning towards not sharing the pics today (you are being spared 22 pictures: 8 green vegetables, 6 fruit smoothies, 4 starchy vegetables, 2 nuts, 2 fruits). On second thoughts, here are a couple of food pics, one shows me finishing off previously-prepared veggies, the other shows me mixing up some veggies for a change:
Once more a heavy day with emphasis on sampling almost everything I have available - and preparing vegetables (especially vulenerable-looking ones) for future consumption in the days ahead. For variety I have also enjoyed each type of fruit I had in stock (in some cases, finishing the last of it). Percentages a bit dented because of that quickly-consumed chocolate but still acceptable.
Food: http://nirmk.byethost13.com/staticfood/day.php?dayid=192
Exercise: [AM] 60 min Body Combat, 60 min Body Pump. 2 hours.
Shopping: 0
Veg: 18.5% [333kcal, 1489g]: brussel-sprouts-boiled66 broccoli-boiled53 tomato46 spring-greens-cabbage-boiled30 beans-green-boiled29 cauliflower-boiled28 asparagus-boiled21 cabbage-leek-TESCO19 spring-onion9 courgette-boiled8 romaine-lettuce7 runner-beans-boiled7 mushroom-common-boiled5 cucumber4
Fruit: 51.0% [917kcal, 2291g]: mango159 kiwi-fruit146 banana146 apple102 peaches79 mandarins62 nectarine61 blackberries56 orange49 plum-british-lightred48 cranberry-light10
Starchy: 12.9% [233kcal, 317g]: jerusalem-artichoke104 potato-baked97 parsnip-boiled32
Nuts: 7.9% [142kcal, 24g]: cashew-raw-ndat58 peanuts-salted-sp46 brazil-nut-HB38
Animals: 6.3% [113kcal, 30g]: banana-flavour-whey-powder113
Rubbish: 3.5% [63kcal, 17g]: celebrations-chocolate-Mars50 chewing-gum-honey-lemon13
Totals: [4168g] 1800, 83.0g protein (18.4%), 31.4g fat (15.7%), 296.4g carb (65.9%), 5.30g saturated fat, 71.55g fibre, 0.19g sodium. 176 is 9.8%
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Beth
Senior Member
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Posted: 9 March 2008 01:17 am |
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Well, Nir, your food certainly looks more organized than mine. Since I've looked at your veggies, I'm considering buying some little rectangle containers to keep mine in. I haven't been eating enough greenery. I bought some of the top Eatright veggies today (Kale, Mustard Greens, and cabbage.) I guess I'll wash them and tear them tomorrow. It takes a lot of prep time, doesn't it. It will be worth it to get slim and healthy.
Thanks again for your help and inspiration.
Beth
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 9 March 2008 03:52 am |
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Point me to the Christmas story about your brother!
(BTW, make it a link with a page number and we'll use it for a test with the forum change I talked about.)
Peter
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 9 March 2008 07:48 am |
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These boxes are the same microwave-safe dishwasher-safe boxes that most UK take-aways come in, though I bought them all as job-lots (about 50 or so) for 10p each.
My brother's reaction to weighing food at the christmas table is found here:
Post-based link: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=953&forum_id=31&jump_to=53957#p53957
Page-based link: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum31/953-53.html (middle of the page)
The view-count ticked over from 99,999 to 100,000 whilst I was asleep (Scoobees is hot on my heals with 78,000+)
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morbidlemon
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Posted: 9 March 2008 10:36 am |
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Not sure this reply is going to be particularly coherant as I'm jumping around and responding to a few things in one go
I aspire to eat as many vegetables as you do. I'm not really a fan of fruit these days but I really am craving some fresh veggies.  When we do have vegetables in the fridge they don't keep very well, so much gets wasted, and I'm never that impressed with the bagged frozen vegetables.
I tried to read back a bit to find out about your operation, but you have some 60 pages worth here! I think I got the gist of it though. Really glad your recovery seems to be going well even though the operation doesn't seem to have helped at all. It must have been quite a big thing if you had to travel down to London for it.
I love butternut squash also, but I am absolutely awful at preparing it! Our knives are pretty sharp [but I am comparing them to a set of pound shop knives I bought when in halls of residence] but it's quite a work out once I've done wrestling with it. Am I missing some trick here!? Or do I need to do weights more regularly so I am prepared for it next time [and if so, which muscles should I target here? ;)].
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 9 March 2008 10:55 am |
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Tricks with Knives
I've actually lost some knives in my battles with raw swede and raw butternuts squash. In several cases this meant the blade remained stuck in whilst I was holding a now-detached handle. Sometimes I also had a cut on my hands and required a plaster.
These days I just wash them from the outside, microwave for a while (at least 5 minutes), get it out of the microwave and chill it by immersing in cold water, and the then slice the comparatively softer vegetable. I even use this trick for jerusalem artichokes. Being macho will only result in more injuries and more wasted knives.
I got referred to London because over there they are experts at the 'bladder augmentation' surgery, but in the last minute switch I ended up with a 'bladder neck incision' which is a more common operation they could have probably done locally (but as it was done by an expert in London then there is a slightly enhanced chance that I have not become infertile in the process: when normally performed, the risk is up to 50%). I may yet have to have the originally-planned 'bladder augmentation' surgery done at some point.
I don't really get people who shy away from fruits. I am addicted to them. NevD of these forums also isn't a fan. When I wanted to lose "my last 2lb" and having come to the conclusion that I'd need to give up some fruit (for a while) I ended up deciding "sod the 2lb". I love my fruit too much to think about taking a break from them (at the moment). If I give up fruit I would be substituting nuts and seeds for them and whilst I like them there is just no comparison. Im my mind my fruit are just one degree away from ice-cream.
Sometimes I have such a fruit-heavy day that I forget to eat my veggies. Then I remember that Dr Fuhrman recommends a minimum of 2lb (900g) of (non-starchy) vegetables per day and the next day I'd make sure to hit that target!
For value-for-money I like frozen cauliflower, brussel sprouts and peas (most other things tend to be overpriced at the moment) - and they retain their freshness better than the fresh ones I have in the fridge: it is a logistical challenge to ensure I eat everything before it goes off! (I do over-buy when prices are good because I never know what's around the corner.)
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morbidlemon
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Posted: 9 March 2008 11:33 am |
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Microwave it! What a brilliant and simple idea. I never thought of that. I got a combi-microwave for Christmas too. I will definitely be eating more butternut squash from now on, it keeps far longer than anything else. :) Talking of knives that reminds me of a set I stumbled across on Amazon which I still think are brilliant, even if they are somewhat reminiscent of the area I live in.
It's awful that you might still have to have the other surgery, especially with running the risk of infertility with the procedure you did have. I hope that your instinct is wrong and it does settle and improve your problems with time like your mum says, but it sounds like an improvement should have been rapid so I'm probably more inclined to agree with you. It's odd that they changed their minds so late on without so much time for you to think about the risks. Did they give a reason for that?
I don't know why I don't like fruit! I think it might be the aftertaste or the feeling on my teeth/in my mouth after eating them. Maybe it's the sugar in them, but that would clash with my love for chocolate and cheesecake. I guess it varies, but I'm definitely in an off-fruit phase. I like bananas but they are pretty calorie laden for the amount of satisfaction/fullness I feel from them.
I don't even really know what artichoke is, and I don't think I like cauliflower [although this is a long standing thing so it may be unfounded, I just remember disliking it]. I like brussel sprouts and peas so I'll definitely be buying some more. Tom doesn't really like many fruits or vegetables so out of convenience I wind up being limited to his palate out of convenience! [I think he's limited to sweet potato, butternut squash, carrot, sweetcorn, broccoli and pulses-which-don't-really-count-anyway].
How long do salad-type leaves keep in the fridge once prepared? Iceberg lettuce has a horrible tendency to go brown, but it'd be really helpful if I could prepare some salad and keep in the fridge to dip into, rather than the other option of buying bagged salads.
Haha, sorry for bombarding you with long posts and questions :)
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 9 March 2008 11:44 am |
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That's a nice neighbourhood you must live in.
the reason they gave for the short notice about the change of operation is that every week they have a meeting to discuss all the ops they're doing the next week and this came up in that meeting (i.e. presumably this was input or a chance to reconsider during that meeting)
As primates we've been conditioned to like fruit - we're the only animals who can sense "sweet" and see the different colours. Perhaps you're an alien :)
a globe artichoke and a jerusalem artichoke are different vegetables. I talk about 'jersualem artichokes', which share some characteristics with potatos and other root vegetables, here are pictures (before and after cooking):
salad leaves quickly die after you wash them so I prepare them in two stages: I'll tear them up (and maybe even weigh them). Then just before I eat them I would wash them (by immersing them in water and then drain the water)
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morbidlemon
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 9 March 2008 01:29 pm |
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Being an alien would explain a lot of things!
Those artichokes look/sound interesting. Are they better for you calorie-wise than potatoes? I might see if they sell them at the big Sainbury's next time we go, I like trying new things :)
Also, thanks for the tip on the salad. I didn't realise that it was after washing which makes them die quicker. Although if I do try preparing stuff in advance I'll be avoiding iceberg - iceberg seems to have the habit of looking healthy in the shop and then being horrible looking when I get them home [some exaggeration present here], and they oxidise at the edges pretty quick too.
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Beth
Senior Member
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Posted: 9 March 2008 01:36 pm |
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Storage of veggies has definitely been a problem. I think the boxes will be the solution because they will stack nicely. I have two refrigerators and both are full of fruits and veggies. I don't like to cut fruit until I eat it, so I can't really downsize fruit. However, the veggies are in gallon zip lock baggies that lay around and take up lots of space. Not a great way to maintain and manage the inventory. Going green will result in even more containers of veggies. I've got to get them prepared and ready to eat when they come in the house. It doesn't really work for me to get hungry and try to prepare things. I've got to have something fast so I don't go on a binge.
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 9 March 2008 02:03 pm |
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Nutritionally rather similar, green vegetables they are not
100g baked potatos
kcal=73 pro/carb/fat(g)=2/17.4/0
100g boiled jerusalem artichokes
kcal=77 pro/carb/fat(g)=2.2/18/0.1
100g boiled new potatos
kcal=66 pro/carb/fat(g)=1.4/15.4/0.3
my dad prefers them because they're sweeter than normal potatos.
Beth, I don't cut up the fruit I place into the fridge (for example at the moment I have apples, mandarins and mangos in the fridge) but I do chop them up before freezing them. Fruit keep longer in the freezer and in that state they're minutes away from becoming a delcious fruit smoothie. Some fruit are packed in boxes to within an inch of their lives and get stacked in rectangular boxes whilst larger fruits (apples, peaches, nectarines) are cut in half, a bunch of them placed in a plastic bag whih is then squeezed into whichever shape of space presents itself in the freeezer.
Here are some densely-paced mango and banana, mandarin segments and some apple halves the way I freeze them:
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 9 March 2008 05:27 pm |
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Thanks for the link about Christmas. Funny that just above your post I posted a Merry Christmas note commenting that I didn't regularly read your diary... and so I didn't read your "Christmas Story."
I guess there is some form of love you always have for your parents, though otherwise I do not like mine at all. They are rude and critical and none of their children ever feel they can do anything right in their eyes. I think it has destroyed most of our ability to feel self-confident. You are lucky to be so close to your mum.
We are not interested in their money (wills), only their love. Yet my dad takes people in and out of his will as a control issue. I think this is sick. Sad.
My siblings and I are in about the same place. There's always going to be some form of connection that draws you back to family, but too often it's the moth into the flame.
Point is, I will always have to deal with this. But in my mind -- if it's not so easy in practice -- I deal with it to a certain extent with my logical thought about family relationships.
I realize that you don't have children, but for me they are my number one interest and concern. I feel a great responsibility for their success and happiness.
As for relatives that I didn't bring into this existence, ideally -- because of the special bond of a family connection -- they can be among my best friends. But if this isn't the case, then to the extent that it's possible, they can not be my friends at all and I will deal with them as minimally as possible. Always with courtesy and respect... but minimally. And I will not take their abuse.
As I have shared with you many times, forum member wm and I have become great friends and communicate via e-mail literally all day long. And after venting about such things, we often sign our e-mails #%@&! People! (Oh, if that got filtered out... it started with a D. Not such a bad word.)
I only have one life to live, and put my happiness above any responsibility to have a close relationship with (rude) relatives. As long as I'm running off at the mouth... I'll share my philosophy of life!
I think we are a success if we can be happy without hurting others. And if in becoming happy we can help others, we are heroes.
Now about all those pictures of knives. I cut my hand badly about 45 years ago with a knife, and have since had a mild phobia about them. I use them, but keep them out-of-sight in a drawer. So many more pictures like that, and I won't read your diary at all!
Take that from a pushy relative! (We are all family in this forum!)
Peter
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 9 March 2008 11:42 pm |
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I don't always see eye to eye with my parents, we often shout at each other down the phone or I'd hang up on her, but at the end o the day despite our communication problems we're indeed quite close: it seems that of the 4 siblings, 2 are close to mum and 2 are not.
Thanks for sharing about your experiences and outlook, very interesting.
Speaking of the search for happiness, I had another go at re-starting salsa dancing last night, more on that later.
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Beth
Senior Member
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Posted: 10 March 2008 01:44 am |
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Regarding parents, I am one. I came from such dysfunctional people and they helped me to have such hangups! However, I have come to realize they did the best they could with what they had. Nobody gave them the gift, so they didn't have it to give to me . I look back at how immature and screwed up I was when I was raising my child and I wonder how in the #%@&! she came out of it all ok. Bless her heart, she seems to be ok. I wonder if she writes via an alias on some forum about her mommie dearest! Thank heavens we're all alive and apparently doing fairly well despite it all.
I have dined on many peas and what the shelf sign called kale today. I just inherited my hubby's giant ford diesel truck because we can't afford the gas for him to drive it to work anymore. Anyway, I took it for a spin and massive indigestion hit me. At first I thought it was my heart.  Hopefully my greenery won't kill me before I get used to it. I want to live forever, but not with that indigestion! I guess I need to invest in some Rolaids.
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 10 March 2008 04:09 am |
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Beth,
One thing I should have said about my parents which differs from you is that they have not tried their best. For example, when I offered to pay for my family to see a family therapist, my dad shunned me for a period of time.
I hope your indigestion gets better! I was out washing my car one day when my indigestion got so bad I had to stop and come inside. I seriously considered a heart attack, knowing that people often wait too long to ask for help.
However, while the pain was very bad, I was able to note that my chest muscles were relaxed (I always hear that they tighten up?) and my heartbeat was normal.
I late realized that -- being the compulsive person I am -- I had eaten way too large a quantity of raw almonds.
I think it was part the quantity, and part that my body wasn't used to it.
Peter
P.S.
Okay Nir, you can have your diary back!
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 10 March 2008 01:57 pm |
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some of Sunday's food in pictures:
8am mushrooms
8.20am broccoli, cucumber and spring onions
8.30am potato wedges
10.10am dry-roasted peanuts
10.25am cauliflower, runner beans, jerusalem artichokes and parsnips
noon: frozen nectarines and blackberries smoothie
2.30pm: greens, green beans, brussel sprouts and courgettes (before and after mixing them)
2.40pm: frozen apples and mandarines smoothie (and a wafer cone)
3.55pm: raw cashews
4.40pm: frozen banana
4.50pm: sunflower seeds
0.05am: frozen apple and mandarin smoothie (containing these raw redskin peanuts)
0.12am: frozen bananas
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Nir
Senior Administrator
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Posted: 10 March 2008 02:53 pm |
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Sunday
Sunday is the one day of the week with no AM gym class so there is potential for a lateish start, my schedule is free until I head out to the gym at 5pm. I was expecting to see my brother but he had to do some shopping so I chatted to him instead whilst he was taking the train to London. He was telling me about the elaborate holiday he had in January, spending more on himself and h |
