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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 18 February 2008 07:08 pm |
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Beth wrote: I know I'm not cut out for jogging. My doctor says when my back screams, I'd better listen and slow down. I envy you for your fruit stand. Sam's Club is where I've been getting wonderful produce. I plan to make a trip today. The thing is that I actually like jogging, but I feel like it doesn't like me. :) I don't know if that makes any sense, but I'm sticking to it. I did want to try to beat my time at this year's 5K so I guess it makes sense that I keep chipping away at it.
The fruit stand is less a stand than a real store, in all honesty, and it's open 24/7. I can get better prices there than anywhere else in Brooklyn. I get so frustrated when I see the deals that Nir gets in the UK and I'm like "why am I paying $5 for a pint of strawberries?" But the truth is that I just have to go where the deals are, which means...out of my way. I spent $24 there yesterday and I got A LOT of stuff. That same $24 wouldn't have gotten me half of that at my local grocery store.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 18 February 2008 09:59 pm |
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Hold for tomorrow: Dinner: 4 oz. pork tenderloin (186); 2 oz sauteed spinach (30/1.4); 4 oz whipped potato (128/1.7)
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Theresa
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Posted: 19 February 2008 08:43 am |
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My back was killing me until about mid-day yesterday and my inner thighs are still screaming. I don't know if I'm cut out for jogging.
This only lasts for 3 days until your body is used to it. Remember your advice to me "Stretch before and after" This definately helped me even when I was so sore, it warmed up the muscles and took some of the pain away.
You just keep going and you will get over this hurdle, I know exactly how you feel because I am also struggling to get into losing mode.  We will get there 
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 19 February 2008 01:15 pm |
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Thanks, Theresa. Unfortunately, I did stretch before and after and for the next few days, but it didn't help much. Or at least if it did, I couldn't tell. I'm a bit more concerned about my feet going numb after 20 minutes. I'm not sure what that's about. I haven't put much mileage on my shoes and I bought them at a running store where they did all sorts of measurements and calculations, so I know they're good shoes. They seemed to be laced okay, too, so I don't know what the problem is. I don't have this problem as quickly on pavement.
Today is my only day in the office since yesterday was a holiday and the rest of the week I'll be at an offsite training seminar. I'm nervous about it because these things are always loaded with food, and usually the kind of stuff that isn't exactly healthy. My "plan of attack" is to eat my high fiber muffin before I leave the house in the morning, and have a piece of fruit right before I get there (that'll be about an hour apart). I don't know if they'll be serving lunch or not, but I'll load up on the bottled water and just do the best I can. I really need to see a loss this week.
Yesterday was rather productive. I did the dishes, cleaned out the fridge and freezer, refilled the water bottles (which seem to never be refilled when I need them!), caught up on linguistics assignments, had dinner with a friend, put laundry away, and parted with more clothes. The latest batch to be gone are a pair of jeans, two pairs of Dickies, a denim skirt, and any t-shirts larger than an XL. Gone. Finis. For the love of me, I can't part with my UFOs though, they're so reminiscent of my early-to-mid 20s and even though they aren't flattering at all and I don't even wear them, I can't seem to get rid of them either. Maybe in the next go-round, we'll see.
Tuesday, 19 Feb (1847/1369-1869)
Breakfast: 1 Thomas mg muffin (100/8); 2 TB ff cream cheese (30); 1 medium banana (105/3.1)
Snack: 6.25 oz cucumber (21/1.2); 1 medium apple (72/3)
Lunch: 2 oz. roast beef on 1/2 pita (228/1); 1 cup mac-n-cheese (250/2.2); 2 mini cheesecake (1 oz each) - (200); 1/2 cup spinach salad (60/1)
Dinner: 1 cup rice (231/2); 1/2 cup pinto beans (122/7.7); 3 oz chicken breast (141); 3 TB sour cream (77)
Dessert: 1 Skinny Cow ice cream (150/3)
Fluids: 26 oz. water; 8 oz. organic sweetened tea (60)
Fiber: 32.2 g
Last edited on 20 February 2008 01:04 am by abnormalapathy
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artistjohn
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Posted: 19 February 2008 03:21 pm |
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Hi abno. I used to lace fairly tight and get that numbness across top of foot. Can be caused by newish shoes too.
I now lace a lot looser especially over the top of the foot and the final bow as well.
Are you into mp3/ipod when running. I don't think I could run without it now. Killers/Oasis/Mary j Blige/coldplay and others.
Good luck
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 19 February 2008 04:00 pm |
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artistjohn wrote: Hi abno. I used to lace fairly tight and get that numbness across top of foot. Can be caused by newish shoes too.
I now lace a lot looser especially over the top of the foot and the final bow as well.
Are you into mp3/ipod when running. I don't think I could run without it now. Killers/Oasis/Mary j Blige/coldplay and others.
Good luck
Thanks John, I'm going to have to revisit how I'm lacing them. I read online that that is likely the problem, as I was using socks specifically for running. Also, I HAVE to have music when I work out, so yeah, my mp3 player is attached to me constantly! I love the Killers...but perhaps my favorites to work out to are The Bravery, Blink-182 or any of the DJ Skribble compilations...things with a fast beat. If you like The Killers, you should check out The Bravery too.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 21 February 2008 11:02 pm |
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That *&^^*&%^^&% scale isn't moving, or at least not in the right direction! I'm still at 197.4. I'm starting to wonder if the *&^* thing isn't broken or something. Seriously, WTH?
I've been at an offsite training thing for work for the last two days so I haven't caught up here really. School is really hectic this week too, so maybe no exercise. I don't know. I want to keep my calories at around 1300 for the next week to see if that changes anything. I think my body caught on to the whole 1700-1900 range I'd been staying in (roughly) for the last two months. With that said, it doesn't look like that happened today...
Thursday, 21 Feb (1792/1369-1869)
Snack: 1 Thomas mg muffin (100/8); 1 medium banana (105/3.1); 8 oz. tea with 2 sugars (32)
Breakfast: 1 Thomas mg muffin (120/1); 2 egg whites (32)
Snack: 1 Fiber One Bar (150/9)
Lunch: 14 oz. pasta with meat sauce (499/6)
Snack: 16 oz. Coldbuster smoothie at Jamba Juice (260/3)
Dinner: 4 oz. pork tenderloin (186); 2 oz sauteed spinach (30/1.4); 4 oz whipped potato (128/1.7)
Dessert: 1 Skinny Cow ice cream (150/3)
Fluids: 24 oz.
Fiber: 36.2 g
Last edited on 22 February 2008 02:50 am by abnormalapathy
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hoofprints
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Posted: 22 February 2008 05:51 pm |
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The protein shake I mix with Peanut butter is Fusion....Chocolate flavor of course. I'll check the cupboard and give you the others tonight. Our Popeyes here lets you sample to find the ones you like best. Is there a Popeye's or GNC near you?
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DeterminedGal
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Posted: 22 February 2008 06:35 pm |
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Hey Abby!
I joined WW in Sept. if I remember correctly. My sister in law wanted to join so I joined with her. I have to say my experience has been nothing but positive. I had already lost 15# when I joined. Our leader is awesome. Just having the accountability of having to weigh in once a week is a good thing for me. I've since had two neighbors and two friends joined because they've been inspired to lose weight. As you know from CPH, having buddies in this journey helps.
So...I would encourage you go give it a try for at least a month. Oh, they have two eating plans: flex, which is counting points, and core. Core is eating certain foods until you are satsified: veggies, fruits, you know the routine there. I've never counted points and pretty much follow core. I'm not nearly as religious about it as some but as long as I have a loss for the week, I'm okay with that. My two neighbors swear by the flex plan. They could tell you the points in anything! They consistently lose weight by counting those points too.
Let me know if you join. There's somebody on this site (whose name escapes me right now) that was a big WW person and very successful. Maybe one of the oldies can help me (and you!) out by remembering who it is so we can check out her journal again.
Have a great weekend!
DG
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 22 February 2008 08:50 pm |
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Hi Hoofprints, thanks for the info. Yes, we have GNC. I was looking for something that was easy to carry around to work with me, etc. So I'll try to suck down the ones I bought. Maybe these things are an "acquired taste"???
Thank you, DG. I checked out the WW website today and I decided that yes, I'll give it a try. I don't think it can hurt. And I know I need to do something different because "the same old thing" isn't working anymore. I know I have to be open to change because it's only going to get harder the more I lose. :) Thanks for all of your great feedback on it. I'm going to try to get to my first meeting on Sunday.
My management class was fantastic! Even if they didn't have any food and I had to eat lunch out every day. I made some great connections with folks and learned a lot about myself, my personality, my style and how I can overcome some of the obstacles that have been holding me back. Now if only I could stick to the schedules I create for myself! (like how I'm writing this entry instead of working out OR doing my homework, like I said I'd do when I got home today).
Friday, 22 Feb (1435/1369-1869)
Breakfast: 1 Thomas mg muffin (100/8); 1 med banana (105/3.1); 8 oz tea with 2 sugars (32)
Snack: 1 Fiber 1 Bar (150/9)
Lunch: Thai chicken peanut curry (485/4.6); 1.5 c white rice (363)
Dinner: 1 Boca cheeseburger (100/4); 1 Thomas mg muffin (100/8)
Fluids: 6 oz. water
Fiber: 36.7 g
Last edited on 22 February 2008 09:12 pm by abnormalapathy
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 25 February 2008 03:48 pm |
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The Beginning
I walked through the door with some trepidation. I had only half-heartedly joined Weight Watchers when they first introduced the points system and I didn't stay on it very long. I didn't even lose that first 10%. Prior to that, I had flashbacks of my grandmother dragging me to meetings when I was 11 years old and all the grown-ups talked about were "exchanges." I didn't lose any weight then either. So, I admit, it felt like a bit of a defeat to have to say, "I've come this far, but I need some help to get to where I really want to be."
I stood in line, while several other women gabbed about menopause, chocolate cravings, buying Weight Watchers products in bulk at Costco, and I noticed that I was about 20 years younger than any of the women in the room. When I got to the front of the line, I was told to go back to the end, get a clipboard and fill everything out and get back on line. I was highly annoyed with the disorganization of it all. But when I got on line the second time, the woman in front of me started to chat with me. She looked my age or younger and told me how she'd lost 30 pounds in 7 months and swore by this program.
Since I knew I'd be weighing in with clothes, I weighed myself at home anyway. I will likely maintain two sets of weights. My "bare" weight and my WW "scale reading". The bare weight was down 0.6 pounds (196.8) and the WW scale reading was only up .2 giving me a "starting weight of 197.6". I decided that these people will probably think I only have one outfit, thus giving me the most accurate reading each week.
The meeting was mostly cacophony and chaos, but there were some strong points made about sticking to the program, dusting yourself off after a bad meal and trying to do better for the next one, and a lot of talk about emotional eating. I didn't necessarily walk away with a lot of new information, but it was nice to be surrounded by people who understood. Live, and in person. But I have to admit that I was also like "Did I just drop $40 for the same thing I get on CPH every day for free?" Maybe, though, the accountability of standing on a scale in front of other people or calling out during "succeses" at the meeting will become my new motivation. Time will tell.
In the meantime, I am working the program to the best of my ability. It requires a total mental shift as I go from "calories" to "points" and have no real basis of comparison at the moment. My breakfast was 4.5 points, but it was 251 calories. I find myself confused because it's a whole new system. I know my sandwich may be 300 calories or whatever, but no idea on the points...and of course I left my book at home today. So, in attempt to stay on plan, I'm limiting my snacking and trying to make sure I leave enough points for dinner tonight (which I think will be about 8 points, but again, I won't be sure until I measure it all out tonight). By this point in the day, I would have normally eaten at least double the calories, but I didn't plan anything last night and I ran out of time this morning.
I really have my priorities straight, though, let me tell you. The first item I looked up was my Skinny Cow ice cream sundae. It's 3 points. So you know that no matter what I do, I'm leaving myself enough room for it every day, right?
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 25 February 2008 08:29 pm |
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I've been rethinking my goals - because ya know, it's what I do...and the first "big" goal in WW seems to be losing 10% of one's body weight. It's interesting...ya know...10% doesn't sound like a lot. It's not what management would call a BHAG (big hairy audacious goal). It sounds like something anybody could do. Nonthreatening. Well, my 10% is 19 pounds. And I started thinking to myself "19 pounds? I can do that!" And for the first time in (probably forever) I realized that I didn't say something like "I can lose that in [insert totally unrealistic amount of time]" but rather, "I can do that". It's quite a change for me.
So, my first goal will be reaching that 10% mark. That will leave me at 178 pounds. I haven't seen 178 pounds since my sophomore year in high school. I think I will continue using the 10% goal as my progress indicator. The trainer said something about how people who are looking to lose weight seem to never be satisfied. And she described exactly what I went through after my birthday - ecstatic that I'd dipped below the 200 mark and then feeling like 199 wasn't good enough either.
Monday, 25 Feb 2008 (28/25)(Weekly Extra: 3/35)
Breakfast: applesauce (2); Thomas mg english muffin (1); 4 oz. blueberries (0.5)
Lunch: 1/4 c tuna salad (3.5); whole grain roll (3); 1/4 c penne salad (1); salad with low cal/low fat dressing (0); 1x2x2" coffee cake (3)
Dinner: 2 oz. sausage (6); 1/2 c rice (2)
Dessert: skinny cow (3)
Snacl: Thomas mg english muffin (1); 1 TB PB (2)
Fluids: 16 oz.
I'm not going to lie. I am hungry. I know I didn't eat the "right" foods today because I didn't plan. It also doesn't help that I had a working lunch today and though I tried to exhibit restraint, my lunch took up a lot of points. I also know that I didn't drink enough, and I'm trying to suck down some more water to see if the hunger signals go away at all. I counted everything up and I estimate that my calories are around 1350 for the day. That would be why I'm so hungry. I never eat that little. So, now I have to decide what to do.
Okay, positive thoughts....positive thoughts...
Last edited on 25 February 2008 11:44 pm by abnormalapathy
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hoofprints
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Posted: 26 February 2008 05:10 am |
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hey Abby !!! think positive it will be good...the trepidation in your post is fear of the unknown. We all fear change and that's normal. You can do this....I luv ya babe! you are a huge inspiration...look how far you have come. This is just a wee kick start for you and hey the price you pay at WW is a pretty cheap price to pay for mental and physical health.
I'm rooting for you!!!!
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Theresa
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Posted: 26 February 2008 05:32 am |
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Hey Abby, you will get into the swing of things soon and then you will see that the change will be a boost to your weightloss. Absolutely everyone I know who has been on weightwatchers in SA lost a tremendous amount of weight. My sister being one of them and she is allergic to any form of excercise most of the time.  I wish we had one here in Uganda for me to go on to give me that extra boost as well. I will just have to really put oomph into it now to try and keep up with you! Can't let you get too far ahead of me  You go girl!
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 26 February 2008 12:35 pm |
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Thanks hoof and Theresa! Theresa, they have an online program you can follow so you have access to the program through the website. Downside would be, of course, no physical meetings. So I'm not sure how helpful it would be for you since you've already got such great support here and your eating plan is a healthy one.
Well, I did a lot of prep today, so we'll see if that makes the difference. I'm trying really hard to stay positive, but it's hard when you're so hungry. I swear, I wasn't even this hungry when I first started restricting my calories. C'est la vie.
Tuesday, 26 Feb 2008 (33/25)(Weekly Extra: 11/35)
Breakfast: Thomas mg english muffin (1); 1/4 c southwestern egg beaters (0)
Snacks: applesauce (2); 4 oz. blueberries* (1); Thomas mg english muffin (1); 1 TB PB (2); 1 Fiber One PB Bar (3)
Lunch: Thomas mg english muffin (1); 1 Boca cheeseburger (2); 1 c corn soup (2)
Dinner: 2 chicken enchiladas (9); 1/4 c black beans (1); 2 TB guacamole (1); 1 c rice (4)
Dessert: 1 Skinny Cow sundae (3)
Fluids: 16 oz.
*Will someone please explain this to me? Okay, 1 cup is 8 oz. Therefore, 1/2 cup is 4 oz. right? So how come when I weigh my blueberries, they are 4 oz, but they fit in the 1 cup measuring cup? Do I count that as 4 oz or 8?????
Last edited on 27 February 2008 12:25 pm by abnormalapathy
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Beth
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Posted: 26 February 2008 02:12 pm |
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Hi Abs! I see you are going to WW. I wanted to ask you a dumb question. What is a UFO? Sorry, I know it's dumb, but I am curious.
I am wishing you well with the WW. I am not attending now, but I might try it if I hit a plateau. I will be interested to see a reply about the 4 oz. of blueberries. Interesting question. I've found that blueberries are not my problem. They are such a low calorie super food! It's the stuff like protein bars, and calorie dense foods that run my calorie count up and don't keep me full. I seem to be losing 2 lbs a week on around 1300-1400 calories a day and I am usually not hungry all the time. Seems like when I'm staying hungry, my body is getting over some weight hurdle and all of a sudden I lose a few lbs. My refrigerator stays packed with super fruits and veggies. When I just can't get full, I eat Red Delicious apples. I find it hard to binge on apples. Two apples seems to cure most any problem I encounter.
I have spent a lot of time (and money) on Mercola.com. Mercola has some information about eating for your body type that has really helped me. He says if we eat for our body type many of our cravings will go away. I've bought a lot of his products, especially vitamins. He is high and is apparently making a killing off his website. I just like buying from him because I've gotten good info and good products. I love his coconut oil. Every once in awhile he has a shipping price break. I have no financial interest in Mercola. I've just learned a lot from the site and I've never been disappointed in his products. Going to a web site or health food store can be soooo confusing with all the products available.
I know this has been long winded. I'm just so elated to be losing this awful fat. People have shared with me and have helped me so much. I hope my little bit of sharing is helpful.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 26 February 2008 03:33 pm |
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| I dunno...where did I say something about UFO?
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zenobia
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Posted: 26 February 2008 03:41 pm |
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abnormalapathy wrote:
Yesterday was rather productive. I did the dishes, cleaned out the fridge and freezer, refilled the water bottles (which seem to never be refilled when I need them!), caught up on linguistics assignments, had dinner with a friend, put laundry away, and parted with more clothes. The latest batch to be gone are a pair of jeans, two pairs of Dickies, a denim skirt, and any t-shirts larger than an XL. Gone. Finis. For the love of me, I can't part with my UFOs though, they're so reminiscent of my early-to-mid 20s and even though they aren't flattering at all and I don't even wear them, I can't seem to get rid of them either. Maybe in the next go-round, we'll see.
lol, i was wondering the same thing!
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zenobia
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Posted: 26 February 2008 03:42 pm |
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i would count them as whatever they weigh on the scale. blueberries can be different sizes. i eat them every day and sometimes they are very very small, and sometimes they are larger.... go by the weight, not what fits into the cup... IMHO, that is.
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Tratra
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Posted: 26 February 2008 03:43 pm |
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| It depends on what kind of blueberries you're eating....the frozen wild blueberries are tiny, so I'm sure 4 oz. would only be half a cup, but the bigger blueberries take up more space, so I'd just go with how much they weigh.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 26 February 2008 04:29 pm |
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UFOs---ahhh, okay. They are these humongous wide leg pants made out of parachute material. They're something a lot of the "raver kids" wear, or that you see on the younger club scene. As I've just reached 30, they're hardly appropriate.
As for the blueberries, they're fresh. So, weight it is.
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artistjohn
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Posted: 26 February 2008 05:05 pm |
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Hi Abno, What a relief I can't imaginie running that far either!! I did the London marathon a couple of times years ago.
I had a good holiday in NY this summer and NY is the only one that would tempt me now. Half M are a lot more fun.
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kakki
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Posted: 26 February 2008 07:32 pm |
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| Hi AA- I'll be joining WW here at work this week. I feel that I need to switch up/around a little since I've been doing the calorie thing since may. I kinda feel like I'm going to have the same issue going from calories to points and wondering how much I'm truly going to get to eat. Try having some soup w/ lunch, there are some soups that have the WW points already figured on the label. As for the weighing vs measuring cup. What I was thinking flew right out of my head, darn. Keep up the good work and take care.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 27 February 2008 12:35 pm |
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Yesterday was day two on what I'm calling the Deprivation Diet (aka Weight Watchers). I'm sorry you WW fans, but this is really hard for me. Coming from a 40 pound loss last year where I was counting calories and fiber intake to this "points" system is really difficult. Especially when I feel hungry pretty much all the time. I never felt hungry when I was doing my own thing. Of course, "my own thing" hasn't been working for the last 2.5 months which is why I've resorted to this, but all of that aside...
I'm having a heckuva time staying within my measly points range. In fact, I've gone over the limit on both days, thus reducing my weekly "extra" points I'm allotted. This is a big problem as I'm going to Boston this weekend (after not having been there for over a year) so I will likely cut loose and not count points, which will probably result in my not seeing a loss this week after I felt hungry the entire time. What a waste. But hey, it's only a prediction, not fact.
Wednesday 27 Feb (28/25)(Weekly Extra: 14/35)
Breakfast: 1 Thomas mg muffin (1); 2 TBsp ff cream cheese (0); 1 applesauce (2)
Snack: 2 c cucumbers (0); 0.5 c tomatoes (0)
Lunch: indian buffet - chicken thigh, rice, squash, 1/2 piece naan (12)
Snack: 100 cal pack cookies (2)
Dinner: WW SmartOnes lasagna (6)
Dessert: 1 Skinny Cow sundae (3)
Snack: 4 c popcorn, no butter, light salt (2)
Fluids: 66 oz water
Last edited on 28 February 2008 10:27 am by abnormalapathy
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trimB
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Posted: 27 February 2008 05:14 pm |
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Kudos to you for trying something new! Cut yourself some slack while you adjust and get used to the new plan. Can't wait to hear your progress! 
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missfit
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Posted: 27 February 2008 09:08 pm |
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I'll share my WW experience with you. I stuck to my points (18-25), but I was so hungry that I had absolutely no energy. I stuck with it for about 8 weeks, lost 8 lbs. gained it all within no time. Now, that being said, I actually think it's a great program but it wasn't for me! Maybe I wasn't eating enough calories because I wasn't counting calories because I was using the points system!!! Who Knows?!? Good luck with it !
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 27 February 2008 11:45 pm |
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Missfit, thank you! That is precisely how I've felt the last three days! I am so tired that I come straight home from work, eat dinner and go to bed. Then I make myself get up at 11 PM, do some reading or homework, shower, say "hi" to the boyfriend when he gets home at midnight and go back to bed by 1 AM. Last night I tried not to do that, and I ended up falling asleep with my face in my linguistics book. The last time I'd seen the clock it was no later than 9 PM. And I've been feeling so hungry these last few days and totally deprived.
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mollymoo24
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Posted: 28 February 2008 01:42 am |
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Abby, I don't know anything about WW. Are you allowed to add bulk veggie type snacks like carrot sticks, slices of red pepper, grape tomatoes, and salad? I just mention it because I'm eating 1100-1200 cals per day and pile on these things at mealtimes or as snacks and I almost never get hungry. I also have found that if I include protein (an egg) at breakfast time it tends to set up the day very well.
I sure hope you get some sleep soon, a goofy sleep schedule certainly doesn't help! Get some rest! Mol.
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zenobia
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Posted: 28 February 2008 06:36 am |
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hey abby. i hope WW works out for you. you have been doing well and i don't want to see you get discouraged.
also, linguistics is a great sleep aide. i dunno about you, but i had this really weird love/hate relationship with it. still think it fascinating, i didn't do too badly, but yuck! !! it sort of reminded me of math.
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Theresa
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Posted: 28 February 2008 06:45 am |
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| I can't even offer you any advice but I hope you feel better soon and find something that works for you and makes you feel great. I can sympathise because I know how darn difficult it can get at times. Just hang in there and keep trying new ways/things.
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artistjohn
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Posted: 28 February 2008 10:19 am |
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Hi Abno, Feel for you at the moment with struggles your going thru.
I don't like the thought of you being hungry and all it's attendant problems. I get quick to anger, moody, can't concentrate, exercise is difficult etc etc.
Looking from the outside. Could you take yourself back to last year when you lost 40lb. Something must have changed for you to stop losing.
I looked back at a few recent days meals and you yourself say your choices could have been better!! More fruits veggies etc to fill yourself up.
If you could get strict for a few weeks measure and calculate everything you will lose. You know that I think. We've got to find long term answers. I too tried WW 20 years ago and did't like points either. Some people love it. I know our hairdresser has lost 42lb on it.
I don't know about you, but food is one of my great pleasures in life. In the Thai restaurant last night I shared a chocolate bomb ice cream with caramel and pecan topping , with my wife . Oh God it was lovely. My other choices around it were good though!!! (my excuse anyway)
Anyway I'm going on in your diary. You know where I'm coming from here. I really want to help and not be bossy. You know my recent history on this front!!
Have a good day.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 28 February 2008 10:25 am |
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Molly, yes, I can have veggies as snacks. The problem is that I don't enjoy them. I have this thing about 'diet food'. I don't like feeling like I'm dieting. And last year when I lost all of that weight, I didn't have to resort to doing such things. So my brain tells me I shouldn't have to now. Maybe that's part of the problem. I'll admit, though, that the cukes and tomatoes helped a lot yesterday, as did increasing the amount of water I drank.
Zen, tell me about it. I'm taking a math class this semester too! So between the two of them it's like one big, giant snooze fest.
Theresa, thanks for the support. I know you know what I mean because you just went through the same thing yourself.
John, you're right. I do need to buckle down and get serious about what worked for me and what didn't. I have a big problem with 'deprivation' as it's a trigger for me to binge. I've committed to the WW thing for a month (i.e. I'm already all paid up), so I'm just going to keep plugging away at it, but I feel it's harder than just counting calories. Not to mention that learning a whole new system has its disadvantages as well.
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kakki
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Posted: 28 February 2008 12:45 pm |
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AA- have you tried adding a soup? even when I count my calories I add a soup before I eat the rest of my lunch and I am fuller longer. Everything I hear is what my fears are for starting WW today but I am committed as you are(though longer than you). Have you talked to some of the other members? Most of them have low point tricks to help them out.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 28 February 2008 01:03 pm |
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kakki wrote: AA- have you tried adding a soup? even when I count my calories I add a soup before I eat the rest of my lunch and I am fuller longer. Everything I hear is what my fears are for starting WW today but I am committed as you are(though longer than you). Have you talked to some of the other members? Most of them have low point tricks to help them out.
Hi Kakki. I'm not a big soup fan, but yes, I've tried it. I have some organic soups that are low sodium and only 2 pts per serving. But those things don't fill me up. Maybe I'm not like other people, but I need heavy food and a lot of it. I've never understood people who can sit down to a soup and half sandwich and be full. That's not me at all. I have a few friends IRL who are on WW and who've had slow or no losses too, but I went ahead with it, believing that they just weren't trying hard enough and it would work for me. But I am trying and it's not working. Not yet at least.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 28 February 2008 01:13 pm |
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Thursday, 28 February (25/25) (Weekly Extra: 14/35/21)
Breakfast: 1 Thomas mg muffin (1); 2 TBsp ff cream cheese (0); 1 applesauce (2)
Snacks: 1 c tomatoes (0); 1 sf jello (0); 1 packet instant oatmeal (2); 1 clementine (0)
Lunch: 2 slices pizza (8); 1 cupcake-celebrating a coworker's bday (12)
Fluids: 32 oz water
1:54 PM
This is bad. I ate all of my points for the day and it's only lunch time.
Last edited on 28 February 2008 05:54 pm by abnormalapathy
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kakki
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Posted: 28 February 2008 08:45 pm |
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| hmmmmmmmmm. Sorry I wasn't more help w/ the filling up on low point stuff. We just had our informational meeting, and the person who organizes the "at work stuff" is going to send us addtional hints and recipes, if anything looks like alot of food for lower I'll let ya know. I spoke to our group leader after about buying books a week early so I can adjust from calories to points and the three woman commented that I might be eating not enough now; so now my fear is I'll start counting points and actually gain weight. We all have days to celebrate, just use a few extra's for dinner and tomorrow is a new day.
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kakki
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Posted: 28 February 2008 08:45 pm |
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| hmmmmmmmmm. Sorry I wasn't more help w/ the filling up on low point stuff. We just had our informational meeting, and the person who organizes the "at work stuff" is going to send us addtional hints and recipes, if anything looks like alot of food for lower I'll let ya know. I spoke to our group leader after about buying books a week early so I can adjust from calories to points and the three woman commented that I might be eating not enough now; so now my fear is I'll start counting points and actually gain weight. We all have days to celebrate, just use a few extra's for dinner and tomorrow is a new day.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 29 February 2008 12:40 pm |
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I started thinking about exactly what's been wrong the last few months and I think I nailed down a few things. For starters, I stopped using my spreadsheet in late October, which is when my weight loss started to slow down. I did meet my goal, but I came in right under the wire. As I haven't used it since October, that means I haven't had a place I could easily look back at a week of food, water, fiber, etc. I have to scroll through all of my entries here to get an idea of how I did for the week.
Secondly, I haven't been drinking nearly as much water as I was when I was having the "big" losses. Then, I was drinking at least 40 oz. a day. These days, I have to force myself to get 32, but usually it's closer to 17-20 for the day. The way I will combat this is to carry my 32 oz bottle with me to work every day.
Third, I haven't been exercising. I was exercising at least three times a week for 30-45 minutes each time. I was using the elliptical, but also swimming at least once a week (almost every day in the summer!), jogging and running through "boot camps" at the gym with the trainer. I was also doing strength training one-to-two times a week. I'm not doing any of that anymore, really. I get on the treadmill and after 20 minutes I can't move anymore. It's been really cold here this winter, so I haven't been outdoors as much, but that's not such an excuse when I have two gym memberships and could work out indoors without issue.
And last but not least, I love the support here. But everyone is struggling just like I am. Sometimes that can be overwhelming. Everybody had a different approach because different things work for different people. Deprivation and 'diets' don't work for me. There's someone else on the board who has this tendency to eat all kinds of #%@&! food, substituting things like shakes for meals so that they CAN have that food. I'm not condoning that, but I understand it a lot more now than I did even a few weeks ago. I understand that I am insulin resistant and that my body craves carbs and sweets and that I can only control that to a certain extent. The more I deny myself and tell myself I can't have it, the more likely I am to binge. So I have to be careful about what I eat so that I can indulge in the things my body is wanting. It's like a nagging mother who won't shut up until you give it what it wants, not what it needs.
Yesterday was terrible. I had the chills, but my face was flushed and felt hot. I had a terrible headache. My sugar levels dipped and spiked for most of the rest of the afternoon after my "lunch of champions". And I forget that my body will react strongly to that, even though that's very much how I used to eat on a daily basis, because it's not right for me! But it was a great wake up call.
I will still blog here. I will still be supportive to the friends I've made here. And I hope to continue sharing my successes along the way (for instance, I'm down 0.2 pounds this week to 197.4), but it may not be on a daily basis anymore, and I definitely have to get back to using my spreadsheet. I'm anal and I have to have that level of control over my health because otherwise I stagnate.
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artistjohn
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Posted: 29 February 2008 02:16 pm |
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Enjoyed your post until the bit where you said you wouldn't be here everyday
Reconsider please.
As I get older I recognise behaviour patterns that I've done before. It sounds like youve done that well. You've looked back at where you were, where you are now and worked out it out ( didn't somebody suggest that a few days ago?) So a resounding well done.
I look forward to more positive news.
There are some success stories, Golf brew, coach K.
Unfortunately life is a struggle sometimes.
Success comes in CANS not cannots
All the best
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DeterminedGal
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Posted: 2 March 2008 03:56 pm |
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ArtistJohn is so polite saying "reconsider please." Even though I'm from the south, I'm not that polite. I say: WHAT THE HELL? I love to read your diary. Please keep visiting often. You're one of my favs.
As far as WW, I'm sorry to read you're struggling with the points system. What about core? Have you considered changing to that? That's what I do. I've never counted points.
Hang in there, chick! The weight has been slow coming off of me lately too. I understand your frustration. I hope your spreadsheet system helps!
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 3 March 2008 02:20 pm |
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I actually just realized that I didn't have a loss last week at all, but rather, a gain. I was looking at the WW number, not my "bare" number. So, what an even better choice, I suppose.
Anyway, Boston was great. I can't believe it's been so long since I've been there. On the downside, I imbibed far too much - 2 bottles of champagne in as many days, and more food than is right for one person.
The upside is that today has been much better. I've been drinking my water. I'm keeping my calories at a decent level so that I don't end up without enough to cover dinner. Unfortunately I can't work out for a few days because I've got a situation that will be exacerbated by it. So, I'm really going to pay close attention to my calories since I won't really have a way to burn it off otherwise. Hopefully this other thing will be remedied by Friday so I don't have to cancel yet another workout with a friend.
And finally, I was able to buy clothes at H&M this weekend. That's a biggie since they don't carry anything bigger than a L/14. They're all colorful and have patterns like I'd never ever wear when I was heavier. This is causing some problems, however, as my bf isn't used to this kind of stuff and sometimes his brutal honesty can be more painful than he realizes. In fairness to him, I did say they were ugly, but I did more as a defense mechanism before anyone else could say it, and it backfired. But yay to size large clothes.
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hoofprints
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Posted: 4 March 2008 02:48 am |
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oh I'm so glad you went shopping !!!! You are always so cheerfull after you've gone shopping. It's not that your jumping up and down for joy...but you're cheerfull!
Winter is almost over...you can do it! Winter is so hard and by the end I hate a lot of things....but then the sun comes in spring....and it gets better.
I hear you on the spreadsheet thing...must be in control at all times. I have spent so long eating rabbit food I am craving sweets, so I'm creating good ones ! Coast for a day or two and then jump back in doing what worked for you. Even if you only visit occasionally I'll watch for you.
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 4 March 2008 12:07 pm |
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Everything had been going well until dinner last night. The boy took the night off work and I wanted to try this new brick oven pizza place that recently opened in our neighborhood. I already know that thin crust pizza isn't that bad for you, especially if you only have 1-2 small slices (which I planned to pair with a salad). So the first thing you must know is that I am not child friendly and I have zero tolerance for parents who let their kids run amok in restaurants. So that was the first strike for this place. The second strike is that their "individual" (i.e. 10" pies) cost as much as a traditional Brooklyn pizza (i.e. 18" pie). The third strike was that their arugala and walnut salad had precisely three walnuts and was so salty I thought someone tied a saltlick to my neck. Horrible! The final nail in the coffin was that the thin crust pizza they brought out was soggy and had no flavor. I ate half a slice, plus the salad and was so mad. We ended up going somewhere else so we could actually eat. That pathetic meal cost us $30!
Then we went to a place we normally go. By that time I was starrrrrrrving so I ordered a cheese calzone (bad choice) and I proceeded to eat the entire thing. So there's 770 calories I really didn't need. At any rate, I came in under my limit for a 1 pound loss for the week, so I'm okay with it. I did really well the rest of the day. My corporate cafeteria now has these salads and other meals that are pre-packaged and so I know exactly how many calories are in them, which makes managing things easier. Oh, yesterday I got a full 64 oz of water! I have a plan to get that all in before I leave the office each day so I know it's covered. :)
This week is very stressful for me. I have a ton of homework due and plans just about every night. Tonight I've got my therapy appointment, which has been incredibly helpful for other areas of my life. We've touched on my issues with food, but haven't made much progress there since I pretty much stopped binging before I started seeing him. Tomorrow night I've got a volunteer meeting at Covenant House. I suppose Thursday night will be reserved for homework as Friday I've got a gyn appointment and then a workout with my buddy, that I'm hoping not to have to cancel depending on how things go with the doc that afternoon.
Anyway, I'm staying positive and on track. I'm also trying not to get my hopes up too high given the way things have been for me lately. But as Buddha says, "All that we are is the result of what we have thought."
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Theresa
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Posted: 4 March 2008 12:31 pm |
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| You will be fine Abby! You just keep on trying and being aware of what you are eating and you will get to your goal weight. Just happily plod along girl!
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abnormalapathy
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Posted: 10 March 2008 02:26 pm |
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I really think it's the weather that has done me in these last few months. Well, maybe a combination of the weather and my hormones, if I absolutely have to be honest. Since I tried making my bc continuous, I've had nothing but trouble. I had an appointment with my doctor on Friday and we're going to try a different method, one that is a steady, continuous dose instead of tapering off, and we'll see if that helps matters. I'm pretty sure that the bimonthly emotional dumps which created eating binges and a situation where I was too depressed to even think about exercise didn't help at all.
Last week I drank a minimum of 64 oz. of water each weekday, which is huge for me. I often struggle (especially on weekends) to get down one 17 oz. bottle of water. I'm going to buy a second 32 oz bottle so I can keep that at home, and so I have no excuse on the weekends. My calories have been in the right range too, and I've been doing great about curbing the late night snacking. Hopefully this will all begin to translate to the scale.
My clothes are fitting looser, which can be both a good and bad thing. The only items I bought this winter were pants, because I really needed them, and I was hoping that my old shirts would get me through the spring. It looks like that is not to be the case. I'm still in between sizes with the pants (i.e. I still can't wear those LB 2's, but the 3's are starting to be loose in the waist). Today I'm wearing a Van Heusen XL button down and it's hanging like a maternity shirt. That means I really need to go out and buy a few new pieces. At least that means I'll have a |
