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morbidlemon
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Posted: 19 October 2007 09:31 pm |
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Ah yes. I should go and have some water to drink - I don't think I've had any today!  No wonder this cold is lingering!
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Scoobees
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Posted: 23 October 2007 12:38 am |
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Hi Hisgal! Sorry to hear you've been sick and had a rough week. I sure hope this week will treat you better! Glad to hear your elbow is starting to recover; I'll bet you're itching to get back to Curves!!!!!
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Hisgal
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Posted: 24 October 2007 03:00 am |
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Yes, Scoobs.........I am itching to get back to CURVES. The fever went away, and the sinus stuff and headaches settled down. The real bummer is that I forgot not to use my left arm this weekend, and pulled my suitcase with it on Friday night after the conference............I am having pain again upon non-use!   But, walking went OK yesterday........no pain in the arm then, when I was swinging it.
So, I am back to writing stuff down.............and I went back to WL4I, with a few adjustments(I add in a protein bar or fruit, to up the calories a bit).........or basically carb-cycling in my mind.
MONDAY, OCT 22: Calories-1475 Protein-29.8% Fat-34.6% (raw nuts) Carbs-35.6% and Fiber-20.25gr.
I need to edit today's totals that I posted earlier.......being on WL4I, my meals are all laid out for me, and I had "fish" left for meal 4. I had 2 grilled salmon fillets ready, so I did my totals, but we had a meeting at church, and I didn't get home until almost 10:30. I just don't feel like eating at this time of night..........
TUESDAY, OCT 23: Calories-1340 Protein-37.9% Fat-21% Carbs-41.1% Fiber-17 gr.
 Here's to a healthier me, and continued weight loss!
Oh yeah, it's Tuesday..............not a good weigh in, I'm afraid. With no exercise last week when I wasn't feeling good, and waaaaaaaay to much junk food at the conference (no control this weekend at all)..........this morning was at 177.2 lbs.
Last edited on 24 October 2007 07:56 am by Hisgal
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Hisgal
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Posted: 26 October 2007 05:07 am |
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Hi Everybody! So glad to be back online  I missed all you guys I can't imagine life without you
So, it's late.........I went right to church, after work, to finish up a banner for Sunday, then stayed for a Stewardship meeting at 6:00, then worked on the banner again for a while, then had Women's Bible Study at 7:30. Then I got the banner hung, and had to run back into town and work, to email my daughter an order for Tastefully Simple. Our office is donating a basket of TS products for a "Holiday Stroll" gift window, and I needed to get her the order tonight. She didn't get the email I sent earlier, so I had to go back in and see if I could fix it. When I got home, I had some things that I had to do tonight, so here I am at 11:00 p.m., just getting online.
So, I am just going to say that the scale is inching down,  which makes me happy I should have had a salad for my last meal tonight, but I had 2 cookies at Bible Study instead. I wouldn't have, if I wasn't so hungry, and I know the lady who made them, tries to make things healthier..........She gave me a list of ingredients, and I came home and figured them out. She made them small, and they ended up being 62 calories, 0.7 gr. protein, 1.5 gr. fat and 0.4 gr fiber each.......not bad!  And they were soft, chewy and delicious. I emailed her tonight, for a copy of the recipe (she just gave me a list of the main ingredients-I didn't add in baking soda, vanilla etc that might have been in it-any amount divided by 72 cookies would be negligible)
WEDNESDAY, OCT. 24: 1514 calories, 43.1% protein, 29.1% fat, 27.8% carbs
THURSDAY, OCT. 25: 1249 calories, 34.4% protein, 26.8% fat, 38.8% carbs
I know the calories were low today, but again, I was gone so late that I didn't want to eat when I finally got home. Even with the 2 cookies I didn't go over.......could have had 4 more and still been in line with calories! I should get a batch of those in the freezer.........or maybe not 
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voodoodoll
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Posted: 26 October 2007 05:23 pm |
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hey hisgal- i do belive you have found the 8th wonder of the world, a healthy cookie!  if you get time when you are not so busy could you post the recipe up?
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Hisgal
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Posted: 26 October 2007 05:43 pm |
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I sure will, if my friend sends it to me. It was your basic oatmeal-raisin cookie.....but using only half the butter, plus applesauce........extra oatmeal. Now that I think about it, she didn't mention eggs, when she told me the ingredients in the recipe. I wonder if there aren't any? Or if she just forgot about it? There was still plenty of sugar in it, but when divided up, it didn't add up. I didn't figure carbs though
I wonder what would happen, if I took nevd's choc. oatmeal bars and made them into cookies?
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Scoobees
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Posted: 31 October 2007 01:10 am |
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Hi Hisgal - just popping in to see how your week is going so far - hopefully great! How's the elbow treating you?
Just got back from Curves a little bit ago, and ready to fix something quick for dinner and tune in to Biggest Loser tonight - hope you're able to watch!
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DeterminedGal
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Posted: 31 October 2007 09:36 pm |
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Hey Hisgal!
Just dropping in to catch up on what's happening in your world. It looks like life is treating you well. That's great! Happy Halloween!
DG
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Hisgal
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Posted: 31 October 2007 11:38 pm |
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Life is crazy! If breathing wasn't automatic............I wouldn't have time to do it!
Will catch you all up eventually  Thanks for checking on me!
Last edited on 1 November 2007 04:49 pm by Hisgal
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Hisgal
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Posted: 2 November 2007 03:05 am |
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Finally, I have some time to myself, although there are things I should be doing. All I can think of right now, is that my favorite recliner and me have been strangers for waaaaay too long
I have had a crazy week, and I DON'T want another like it for a long time, if ever. After work, I stopped at my sis-in-law to drop off some things, then headed home to finish up last night's prep of dinner for 20-30 guys at my hub's American Legion meeting, where he signed up to bring the meal this month............he doesn't cook!
I am totally lost with my weight loss! I am tired.....I am discouraged...........I am stressed...........I want to give up, but I don't want to gain back any more weight!
I am going to attribute these feelings to several things...........TTOM (at the end of the Halloween Challenge, just what I needed)............stress at work..........volunteering for waaaaaay too many activities..........no free time............more places to spend our money (bills) than we have money..........and the holidays coming up (when I get even more stressed)..........and being disillusioned with the people out there, who think "someone" will do it, but it's never them.......it's me, and others like me. I'm sooooo tired of it all!
Sorry to rant, but I really am so tired of it! I've never felt quite this way before. Then to top it off, they mess with me beloved CPH site! I am on my home computer now, and it looks fine.............but, at work today, the font was still teeny tiny and I can't read it or get it all to fit on a page without scrolling side to side............I sure hope it looks this good at work tomorrow. I often check CPH from work while I'm printing reports.
So, my weigh in on Wed. put me at 174.6 lbs...........considering I was at 180.6 on 10/22, (water weight, I know some of it was) I will try to be happy. I just wish I was back at CURVES!
On Sunday, we hauled wood..........we burn mostly wood to heat our house in the winter. My elbow started hurting again after that day. I was lifting and throwing logs probably up to 70-80 lbs......they were just cut, not split yet. The really big ones, my hubs and I together can barely roll up a ramp onto the trailer, much less actually pick up. We won't have many days left in the 50's, without snow, so need to get it out of the woods and off the hill before it gets snowy and slippery. I get nervous enough as it is, coming down some of those steep hill roads. Have been spending too many lunch hours, working through them or running errands, so haven't been walking for a while either. I NEED TO MOVE TO LOSE WEIGHT!
On the bright side, hubs and I are going out to eat Friday night. It seems like it's been ages since we had a quiet dinner together. On the other hand, I've eaten out 3 times this week............we had a Halloween party on Saturday night, and I did OK. I ate mostly protein, but did have 2 cookies and a piece of cocoa Krispies cake. The scale didn't go up though. I ate out at Applebee's on Monday, when my MIL and I went to pre-school (it was grandparent's day). I really intended to have something off their WW selections, but had the broccoli cheese soup and 1/2 turkey sandwich on ciabata bread instead. Then on Tuesday night, the whole office went out to eat at a bar and grill after we had office pictures. The place is known for their burgers, but I ordered a grilled chicken breast............but the one with the mushrooms and onions that I wanted came with bacon and cheese, and I didn't tell them to leave it off. Then there was the 2 glasses of cabernet.............I am lucky I was down at all for the Halloween Challenge!
I signed up for the next challenge................not sure if it will help, but it can't hurt! I need some incentive, and I don't feel like I've got any. If I sound down, I really am 
Hope you all have a great weekend.
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Ohm
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Posted: 2 November 2007 10:40 am |
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OH, Hisgal, what can i say. I know exactly wher eyou are coming from. I went througha similar patch not so long ago - and I came out the other side - and so will you. But while you're inthat place it's pretty grim.
Sometime you need a period of maintenance of vehaviour changes before you can tighten your bootstraps and step back onthe t5readmill. Please excuse the mixed metaphors! Seriously, when you have beena bit overweight fora long time, your body can get used to it. You get used to the required effort levels and you get used to being able to eat a bit more. And then you decide to jack things up a bit and you are eating less and moving more, putting more effort into life and you get tired! VERY TIRED!
I'[m not suggesting thatyou abandon things - not a bit of it. I am just suggesting that you may be sufffering from task fatigue. Maybe you could cut yourself a little slack - either ease ofthe exercise a bit or eat albit less, and let your body go into neutral (metaphorically speaking) just for a little while until you have established a new "idling" speed. Then when you rev up the engine again, you can do it with more energy and renewed vitality.
I guess the other alternative is to go for broke and keep on keeping on - in which case you will get there, but it will probably be just a bit more difficult, more effort, etc. But worth the effort too.
Whatever way you decide to do things, YOU WILL GET THERE! I believe in you, and I thnk maybe some other people do too.......... We've all been wher eyou are now, and we will all be there again. When a car gets stuck ina rutt, somebody has to stay with the driver while the others go for help. I'[m sitting here with you. WOuld you like a cup of tea................?
Comforting and energising hugs all the way from me to you
Becci
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Hisgal
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Posted: 2 November 2007 03:25 pm |
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Becci,
Thanks for the comforting and encouraging words It's not just the eating that's getting me down.........it's life! I need to figure out a way to let go of some of the things I'm involved in, and therefore also get rid of some of the stresses in my life.
Tonight is step 1.........a visit with the grandkids (and my daughter), that always makes me happy, and dinner out with the hubs! Our life seems so hectic, that I feel like the last time we really got to talk was the last time we went out to dinner together (his b-say on 9/7)! I will also call my other daughter in CO on Saturday morning and talk to her..........we've been trying to find a time for a talk for 2 1/2 weeks! That's ridiculous! I want TIME!  TIME FOR THE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE! 
Also, I'm sure part of my problem is that I haven't been able to go to CURVES since this tennis elbow thing started in June..........and with the things to do at work, I often have fallen into my old habit of working through my lunch break, instead of walking (I can at least do that, even with my elbow pain!) So, I think LACK OF EXERCISE has a lot to do with my state of mind right now, and my STRESS LEVEL!
I just flipped over my calendar to today's date, and look what I found........."But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. Ephesians 4:7"
And the top of the page says, "God had equipped you to meet today's challenges."
I'VE GOT MY ANSWER!
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soontobeme
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Posted: 3 November 2007 05:29 am |
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Hi Pat,
Just remember to make time for Him every day and everything else will fall into place, if you are forgetting to put him first, that may be why things have gotten so hectic..............just food(in the word of god) for thought.
Love in Christ,
Judy 
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Scoobees
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Posted: 3 November 2007 08:06 pm |
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I am so sorry you've been under soooo much stress lately. With all the tasks you have going on, I'm sure you've forgotten all about taking care of yourself...or don't even have the time for that lately. You sounded so down on that previous post I wish I could come over and give you a great big hug!
I can relate to the part about not having time whatsoever with the hubs. We are just like passing ships in the night anymore and that makes me so sad. But I knew with the new business things would be tough before they get better...I just didn't realize HOW tough. If it weren't for cell phones, I don't think I'd even remember I have a husband. And if it weren't for an upcoming b-day (booo for me ) we probably wouldn't see each other for another month LOL.
Just remember how incredibly far you've come in your weigh loss journey. Once you're able to take a couple deep breaths and are able to go to Curves once again, things will fall back into place. I am right there with you...struggles and all.
I hope you have a wonderful weekend!
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Sassykat
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Posted: 6 November 2007 09:42 pm |
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Hello Hisgal! I was in the neighborhood and thought I would stop by and say hi.
How are you doing?
I have been on a quest to make my life more simple and peaceful. I have been going to church and taking some classes, but other than that I am really striving to do less running around and have less stress in my life. I think it's very important. I have also learned that the more I pray the less overwhelmed I feel. There have been some amazing things going on in my life lately. Good things. Things really have been busy and so I quit coming on here for a while.
Well my dear, I just wanted to ask how you were. I hope things are going well for you and you are healthy and happy. I will never forget that you prayed for me and I will keep you in my prayers.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 7 November 2007 10:45 pm |
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Sassykat,
So glad you stopped in................I see you've already seen that I stopped in at your diary too. It just warms my heart to hear that things are going better for you.......and that you've got that wonderful peace within you..........that means things are OK even when they are not! You know that you can handle anything that life throws at you!
You know, I am doing well this week...........not perfect by any means But, as I've been reading some of the other diaries, and heard that others have decided not to stress out so much about every imperfection..........or not feel bad if they are not tracking every calorie..........I've been able to take a page out of their books, and relax a little bit too.
Becci wrote:
I'[m not suggesting thatyou abandon things - not a bit of it. I am just suggesting that you may be sufffering from task fatigue. Maybe you could cut yourself a little slack - either ease ofthe exercise a bit or eat albit less, and let your body go into neutral (metaphorically speaking) just for a little while until you have established a new "idling" speed. Then when you rev up the engine again, you can do it with more energy and renewed vitality.
I guess the other alternative is to go for broke and keep on keeping on - in which case you will get there, but it will probably be just a bit more difficult, more effort, etc. But worth the effort too.
Whatever way you decide to do things, YOU WILL GET THERE! I believe in you, and I thnk maybe some other people do too.......... We've all been wher eyou are now, and we will all be there again. When a car gets stuck ina rutt, somebody has to stay with the driver while the others go for help. I'[m sitting here with you. WOuld you like a cup of tea................?
I am going to give myself a little break again..........maybe I wasn't ready to come back full force??? My elbow hurts again after carrying and stacking wood (big logs) all weekend, and I've got a lot on my plate right now. I need to survive the holidays, without doing too much damage..........get rid of some of my volunteer jobs.........and then hit it again with all I've got! In my mind that means, CURVES, Turbo Jam, calorie and nutrient tracking..........the whole nine yards. But, I'm thinking that's after the holidays. Until then, I will coast.............not lose control, but not keep such tight control. I am going to start weighing in on Thursdays, to keep track for the new challenge.............and go on from there.
Right now I am trying to loosely follow Eat to Live...........I haven't had meat since Sunday night......just veggies, fruits, nuts, legumes and whole grains. I want to make healthier choices, but if I eat a Hershey's kiss in the evening (yes, just one!) that's OK. I have a few meals out this week, and I need to plan for those. Tomorrow's at the local Mexican restaurant...........and that's an easy one, it's going to be a veggie burrito, with a few chips and salsa and water to drink. We are also eating out Saturday for lunch with my MIL and Sis-in-laws, but I don't know where yet...........and that evening we're going out again for my son-in-law's b-day. Again I don't know where.......one meal I might splurge and eat what I want, but only one.
Judy, I just love that you know so well what I need! I do need to keep God close and in my line of vision, to keep me on track and at peace. I realized that the times I felt stressed and depressed, were also the times I was letting life get so busy, that I didn't take time for my morning devotions. I am now back on track with that as well. I feel much more at peace and in control.
Scoobs, I know that you are understanding the stress too! My hubs was in business for himself for the first 27 years of our marriage. I am truly glad that he's given it up, but I know he was happy with the work itself most of the time. It was just the demand of time that was hard. Hang in there.............it does get better! Let go of some other things, so that when your hubs has some free moments, you can enjoy some "us" time. You need to feed your marriage and relationship too.......with whatever you can squeeze in. Thanks for the cyber-hug
Thanks to everyone for your support and just being there...........we are all struggling, or we wouldn't be here looking for support and friendship!
Onward and upward..............or is it downward (as in the way the scale should go?)
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ObsessedwithFitness
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Posted: 9 November 2007 12:47 am |
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Pat,
I am finally caught up as much as possible with your diary and the goings on in your life. I am sorry for your past sinus sicknesses and stress level. I FIRMLY believe there is nothing wrong with you EXCEPT that you are stressed out. Stress=FAT. I am dead serious!! I believe that so much. Our bodies are strong and can recover but when you top stress on the load...things get outta whack. God will help you through this if only you ASK. This is true and you know it. Everyday remember to have gratitude in your heart for all the lovely things and people IN your life NOW and the future will unfold the way your wildest dreams  have! I say this because it is happening to and for me right now! I believe its not SO MUCH WHAT we eat and HOW MUCH (Unless its excessive and thats entirely a different issue) because I believe deep down  WE KNOW what our bodies and minds need and want. Its when we dont follow our hearts and our instincts, we get ourselves into trouble. When we focus on "the right thing to eat/do/say" that is trouble. Instincts can be VERY powerful and helpful tools in life. Use them. Diets are horrible, we all know that, and are they even necessary? You are doing very well for yourself. Dont forget what is truly important in life. Not the computer, not the scale or the food. But people. Your husband, your children, your mom, your family. And animals. If you're lucky enough to not be allergic to them!   LOL
Anyway, what I am trying to say through all this gobbleDgook, is that we all face the same issues in life at one point or another. You are well equipped to DEAL. You know what to do. We are here for YOU. As your friendly support system. We WANT you to be happy!!! Keep plugging away. Up your calories if you're hungry. Workout when you can or walk on lunch the way you havent had time for lately. Make time for YOU. You are THAT important.
Hope you are having a good night and getting re-acquainted with your favorite recliner! He misses you Hisgal.
LOVE
OWF
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DeterminedGal
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Posted: 10 November 2007 01:46 pm |
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Pat,
I'm reading your diary and nodding my head in agreement with what everyone has written to you. You have come so far. Do you know what an inspiration you are to us newbies? Hang in there, sister!
Enjoy the weekend.
DG
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hoofprints
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Posted: 12 November 2007 10:19 pm |
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Thanks for the note!
It's obvious from your diary that you are a very giving individual. You are always on the go and doing things for everyone else. This causes stress and I agree with Morbidlemon...stress=fat. How about making time for YOU ? Is there one thing that you could give up that you do for others that you perhaps do not enjoy as much as you did? From the beginning of our diary to where you are now I noticed you getting busier and busier. I rooting for you to focus more on you and put yourself second. I know you put god first Even though your Arm is hurting, why not try some leg and ab exercises. At least then you feel like you are doing something for you to reach your goals.
cheers, hope you have a GREAT day
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Hisgal
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Posted: 13 November 2007 03:17 pm |
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Thanks for your encouragement and suggestions, Hoofprints I know what I need to do, but it's so hard to do it. Many of my activities are centered around my church, and I hate the feeling that I'm saying "no" to the things God needs doing.
Many, many years ago, our former pastor's wife told me that I needed to learn to say "no" and also one of our parochial school principal's told me the same thing. I am finally realizing they are right. I will learn to back off in the new year.........I will get rid of some of my responsibilities. Part of the problem, I'm sure, is that I've always been there to do it, so if something needs doing, they ask Pat.
I am trying to find time for the exercise. I did go for a walk yesterday during my lunch hour. Had plans to do the same today, as it's suppose to be almost 60 degrees out. But a co-workers 4 month old grand-daughter died on Friday, and I am going to go to the funeral. I won't have time during daylight to get the walk in. These shorts days are a bugger too! If I can free up some evening time, and have some energy left when I get home from work, I have have been thinking about working on some of my abs DVD's. Just always too many things to do after work yet.
I'm working on it! Keep up all the support, cyber-friends.........I need it and I appreciate it more than words can say!
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DeterminedGal
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Posted: 13 November 2007 06:36 pm |
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Hi Pat!
I just read your last post and wanted to share with you something my pastor always says: You have to take care of yourself first (spiritually, mentally & physically) or you'll have nothing to give others. The more you have, the more you can give.
I've found that to be true.
Also, God answers our prayers in three ways: Either "yes", "no", or "later." So don't feel guilty telling someone "no" or maybe "later" so you can take care of yourself. God will always have work for us to do and trust that he will give us the time to do it.
I don't mean to sound preachy....just encouraging! Bottom line is to take care of yourself first. I know it's not how women in our society think since we're often caretakers to so many, but it makes sense.
DG
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clarinetgurl
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Posted: 19 November 2007 02:50 am |
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Hey Hisgal--
I haven't been by your diary in a loooonnngg time and for that I apologize. I'm sorry you are feeling so stressed out, I know where you are coming from too. Sometimes you just feel like you are suffocatng under everything and you can't get out. I hope you can use the advice everyone here has given you and your faith in God and find your way back out again...
and I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!
CG
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Hisgal
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Posted: 19 November 2007 03:38 am |
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Hey CG !
It's OK...........I haven't been around here much lately either! And that's not a good thing 
Mostly I've been very busy, but the length of time it takes to get a post to go is driving me nuts! IT MAKES ME NOT WANT TO TAKE THE PRECIOUS TIME TO POST!
Thanks for your advice............I could list all the things I've had going every single day this week (when I was almost never at home before bedtime) but I won't bore everyone. But, it is adding to the stress
However, I do feel somewhat relieved..........this morning at a short meeting we had with a couple's group at church, I announced that as of 1/1/08 I was resigning as President......and I was very firm! I will continue to be active in the group, I'm sure. I can organize the Palm Sunday Brunch blindfolded.......I've done it for so many years! But I am stepping down from being in control!
Soon, the elders of the church will be asking me to take another year as Home Financial Secretary.........and I am going to decline. That means I will free up 2-3 nights per month, a council meeting quarterly, and be off the Stewardship Committee, which has involved a lot of meetings the last 2 months, as we worked on a Capital Fund drive for the new addition we put on the church.
Those are my first steps! I am going to give others as chance to step up to the plate and serve the Lord, too!
I actually had a Saturday morning to myself...........and I looked like I was ADHD!  I was trying to do house cleaning, laundry and baking all at the same time. I just kept hopping from one thing to another! We were almost late for a wedding that afternoon, because I was so giddy to have a few hours in my own house, that I couldn't stop working and get showered! Is this sad or what?
My eating had been disastrous! I have eaten out so many meals, and had absolutely no control. I've eaten more french fries in the last week, than I've had in the last 5 years all-together! And tomorrow I am going out to lunch again with a former co-worker (we shared an office for 11 years) that I haven't seen now for a few months. I am coasting until after Thanksgiving..........and then hoping to gain some control, as life goes on. I'd like to say slows down.........but Christmas is coming! It will not slow down.
The big wake-up call was when I put on my black pants for work on Friday, and found they were getting very tight!
So, the plan is to rid my life of some of the stress.............and as I do, I re-gain control of my eating..........and also find time to exercise, in any way I can. I feel like I'm drowning and can't swim.............but I do see a life preserver in the distance. If only I can reach out and grab it....................
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Scoobees
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Posted: 24 November 2007 02:12 am |
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I feel like I'm drowning and can't swim.............but I do see a life preserver in the distance. If only I can reach out and grab it....................
Any chance that life preserver can hold two? I feel like I'm in the same boat with you - no pun intended. I've been pretty much out of control since my b-day on the 16th. And just like you experienced - I had a pair of pants on yesterday that somehow felt a tad too restrictive. Yikes!
It's great to read you are slowly relinquishing some of your obligations. I can just see you at home on your Saturday morning off running around like the energizer bunny!
Now that my bday is over...and Thanksgiving is over...my plan is to try to hold it together as best as I can till New Years. I think I'm back on track - for the short term anyway till at least the Christmas parties start...Yikes again!!!
Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
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Hisgal
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Posted: 26 November 2007 05:03 pm |
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Any chance that life preserver can hold two? I feel like I'm in the same boat with you - no pun intended.
Hey Scoobs, sorry to hear you are floating along with me.
Last week went pretty good..........until Thanksgiving Actually, Thanksgiving went OK. I ate turkey, stuffing, gravy and homemade applesauce for lunch. Pretty good considering what was all being offered. But why waste calories on food you don't love? When I finished my one helping, I rinsed my plate and took a cup of coffee. Then a few hours later came the dessert...............
Actually, I didn't think I ate all that much over the weekend, but my scale says I did, when I stepped on it this morning. Of course, we are dealing with TTOM too.
Now that my bday is over...and Thanksgiving is over...my plan is to try to hold it together as best as I can till New Years. I think I'm back on track - for the short term anyway
My plan exactly! I am feeling really out of sorts. Lots of things going on.......extreme tiredness.............stress...............holiday changes with the family..........not celebrating with the kids until January.........too much to do...........sometimes I am wondering if this is how the beginning of depression feels? Especially when sometimes over the weekend, I had no appetite and just wanted to sleep. Weird!
Anway, I did get my house cleaned........or mostly, even the windows washed inside and out. Also, got all the Christmas decorations up except for the tree! Big accomplishment. The hubs and son were deer hunting again this weekend, and their party ended up with 12 deer. I really don't like that they hunt, but I saw at least 3 deer along the road this weekend, hit by cars. I guess it's better to thin out the herds and use the meat, than to have them wasted by the side of the road, or starved to death over the cold winter?
Hope you all survived Thanksgiving OK!
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Sassykat
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Posted: 27 November 2007 07:45 pm |
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How are you doing with the busyness and stress?
I have been cutting out things in my life also. I think it's good to do that. I truly believe that the Good Lord does not want us to be too busy. Just my own opinion, but...It works for me.
My hubby likes to hunt also. He didn't get a license this year though - he was too busy.
It just snowed here and it got suddenly cold so I picked up an exercise video "Walk Away The Pounds" and I found out just how out of shape and sedentary I have been! It's embarressing!
Well I haven't been on here as much, but I wanted to say hello to a sweet lady!
Take care dear!
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Sassykat
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Posted: 28 November 2007 05:58 pm |
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I am so sorry you have been feeling down, but I am so glad you said so in my diary. There are probably more than one reason you are feeling down. I think it would be good for you to write down all the reasons that could be affecting you to help you decide what you can do to make yourself feel better.
There is at least one, I am pretty sure of and I may be wrong because I've never met you in person, but could the reason be that you are overwhelemed? That could just be one contributing factor, but it usually is a big one for me.
Other factors are the hormones, chemicals etc that is in a persons body. These short days affect me and I usually get the winter blues to some degree. So...There are things we can do to sway our body makeup in helping our moods. I would never suggest precriptions as I took antidepressants for 10-13 years and they were badly affecting my health, my emotions and I went through the worst withdrawals getting off of them. They alter your brain in unhealthy ways and actually can do more harm.
Getting outside, getting lots of sunshine, getting exercise really does help mood alot, and there are some supplements you can take that vary in terms of safety and side effects. The safest probably would be, fish oil, L-lysine and some of the B - vitamins , like B-6 and B-12.
The less "safe" supplements you can buy at Wal-Mart are, 5-HtP, Gaba, and ST Johns Wort. I have tried all of these, but I would only recommend they be used short term.
The really best advice though, would be love, from family, friends and God. Make some time for your marriage, plan some time with your hubby. Confide in your friends how you are feeling and ask for lots of hugs. Pray for yourself and I will pray for you.
Hormones affect every part of our body in the way that it functions. I have noticed this from messing with my hormones. I have tried increasing my estrogen and decreasing my estrogen and increasing my progesterone. Everytime I tried changing things, it played havoc with my emotions greatly and gave me about 10-15 other side effects. You can always make an appt with the doctor and have your hormones tested just to see how it turns out. That doesn't mean you need to take any hormone therapy, but just to inform yourself.
I heard that the Zone Diet changes our hormonal makeup through the food we eat and so I thought I would get the book and read it, just to see if it has any good information in it. I am skeptical, but...if food could help balance my hormones, it seems like it would be safe. Either way, it is interesting to me.
I have struggled with depression through out my life, but besides diet, exercise and sunshine, the best treatment is our relationships. Our world wants to solve everything instantaneously and usually with a pill, but it is not an authentic solution.
Music helps me quite a bit, but if even music is not stirring you, I would think maybe something is out of balance with your body. You'll need some intensive hug therapy, lots of love, sunshine, exercise... calm the activities and obligations in your life and if you still feel blue, try the fish oil, L-lysine, B-6, or the other supplements. If you feel really bad have a talk with your husband and maybe have your hormones tested.
And I am here. I love you. You are so sweet and kind and always reaching out to help others. You can PM me anytime and I will give you my phone # if you need to talk Ok?
Geeze, I'm sorry! Sometimes I just get blabbing and I go on and on.
One more thing, I once spent 6 weeks crying all day every day. It was when I went through my antidepressant withdrawals. My body had to learn to make serotonin again. It was truly horrible. I thought I was going to end up divorced. Eventually though, my body righted itself naturally. I had to pray everyday for God to take care of me though, it was such a hard time.
Praying for you sweet lady!
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Posted: 29 November 2007 12:36 am |
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Wow, Sassykat, you rock. Great advice to Hisgal. You know there's special treasure in heaven for those who help others carry their cross....you are a great example of living as God intended us to.
I realize that I wrote to Hisgal but in your journal, so Hisgal after you read Sassy's beautiful note to you, please go read my message to you.
He will get you thru your rough patch. He always does.
Take care.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 29 November 2007 10:47 pm |
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Thanks so much all of you (Sassykat, DG, Scoobs, CG, Hoofprints, Judy, OWF-did I miss anyone?) YOU ARE THE BEST!
Today I am feeling somewhat better............I even noticed that I'm humming along with my Christmas music.
Being I'm getting to the end of TTOM, and the black hole that I felt like I was in, is getting much shallower.......my uncontrolled crying/sobbing jigs have stopped (although reading your wonderfully kind and supportive posts almost got the tears rolling again)............I am actually thinking about food again (not good).
DG, I am 52! I have been battling night sweats for the last couple of years..........so another reason I am tired, sometimes I forget to take my soy/black cohash capsule and the night sweats get really bad. I know some sources say that they don't work, but in my experience...........THEY DO! If I forget to take them for a couple of doses, I am drenched in my sheets from night to morning. YUCK! No wonder I feel sleep deprived sometimes! Having refreshed my memory, on WebMD, about peri-menopausal symptoms, I really think that's what's been going on for the last 6 days. I just pray that I won't be going through this every single month until it's over. This was more than PMS (which hasn't bothered me much for the last 10 years or so). I wanted to close myself away from people, sleep all the time, cry all the time, not eat, and a few weird things I won't mention. I didn't feel at all like "ME"-it's like someone else's thoughts and feelings were invading my body. And I couldn't stop it or do anything about it. It was scary!
Sassykat, you had so much great advice! I'm so glad some of you understand what I was feeling. At times I thought I was going crazy. We split 3/4 of a trailer load of logs last night..........the exercise and fresh air was good for me. Not that I appreciated the temps in the teen's-20's with a 30 mph wind! It was cold too! Others, in the office, suggested going to see my Dr. for help. But, I was afraid that he'd push drugs. Which is why I decided to wait this out a bit. If I thought that it was something that required them, I guess I would consider. But, that's always a last resort for me. I'd actually check with my Chiro first..........she's really into natural remedies.
I know, with all my heart, that God will get me through.........and that He's using my online friends to do just that I thank Him for every one of you!
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Posted: 30 November 2007 12:27 am |
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Hisgal wrote: Thanks so much all of you (Sassykat, DG, Scoobs, CG, Hoofprints, Judy, OWF-did I miss anyone?) YOU ARE THE BEST!
DG, I am 52! I have been battling night sweats for the last couple of years..........so another reason I am tired, sometimes I forget to take my soy/black cohash capsule and the night sweats get really bad. I know some sources say that they don't work, but in my experience...........THEY DO! If I forget to take them for a couple of doses, I am drenched in my sheets from night to morning. YUCK! No wonder I feel sleep deprived sometimes! Having refreshed my memory, on WebMD, about peri-menopausal symptoms, I really think that's what's been going on for the last 6 days. I just pray that I won't be going through this every single month until it's over. This was more than PMS (which hasn't bothered me much for the last 10 years or so). I wanted to close myself away from people, sleep all the time, cry all the time, not eat, and a few weird things I won't mention. I didn't feel at all like "ME"-it's like someone else's thoughts and feelings were invading my body. And I couldn't stop it or do anything about it. It was scary!
hi Pat! I have been battling night sweats for quite some time-maybe a year off and on now. does that mean that I am suffering perimenopause?
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Hisgal
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Posted: 30 November 2007 05:40 pm |
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OWF,
I can't say for sure, but I did go to WebMD.com when my symptoms started.....and that site said that "peri-menopause is the process of change that leads up to menopause. It can start as early as your late 30's or as late as your early 50's." Night sweats is a part of the symptoms that many experience.
I started out about 5 years ago, by profuse sweating if I went for a walk and it was over 65 degrees outside! I can't remember for sure how long ago the night sweats started, but I'd say it's been a solid 2 years, maybe more. I did read an article on WebMD about night sweats, that said that 41% of patients surveyed by their Dr. at a visit, reported having night sweats during the previous month. If you do a search on WebMD, you can find a list of 8 common causes of night sweats. They talk of distinguishing between true night sweats and just sweating at night due to the room being too warm, or too much bedding etc. When I am talking about night sweats, I am talking of waking up several times a night because the sheets, pillow etc. is DRENCHED in sweat........everything on my half of the bed is soaked! There is a lot of helpful stuff on the WebMD site, so check it out.
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DeterminedGal
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Posted: 1 December 2007 02:57 am |
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Hisgal,
I'm happy you're having better days. Yeah!!!
DG
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Hisgal
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Posted: 3 December 2007 06:08 pm |
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HI DG!
Thanks! But, unfortuantely, the "better days" lasted about 36 hours Sunday I started withdrawing again, and crying again.
I am a big believer in alternative medicine (this from a former RN?) So, I went to my chiro this morning, after starting the day out with uncontrollable tears and sadness. She is also a homeopothist, and a cranio-sacral therapist. So, I got a 4-in-one this morning The natural rememdy she gave me is suppose to help even out the hormonal effects........can take anywhere from a few hours to a few days. The cranio-sacral treatment should have loosened an area of my skull that was very tight, which could result in chemical imbalance in my brain, the chiropractic adjustment just makes me feel better and less tight, and the talk just helped me feel like it's OK to feel like this, I'm not alone, and I will get better. This will sound weird to anyone who isn't used to it, but I've had good results from all these therapies over many years, and I know they can work.
I just can't think of facing 2 Christmas parties this upcoming weekend, with the way I'm feeling today! I needed help, and I trust her implicitly.
It's a bummer of a way to lose weight! Almost choked trying to force down breakfast this morning.............food has no appeal right now.
Hope everyone's doing great, going into the holidays.
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Posted: 3 December 2007 06:15 pm |
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I'm so sorry you are feeling like this Pat, it must be awful, you poor thing i hope your natural remedy will work for you and things will start to pick up for you real soon,
*hugs* Bev xxx
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Posted: 3 December 2007 07:39 pm |
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I thought it was sweet how you ended your last post. Basically expressing all your difficulties, then ending with a well-wishes for everyone else. It says alot about you and your thoughtfulness towards others.
Hope all is well with you soon.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 3 December 2007 07:42 pm |
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Thanks, Bev
It helps just to "talk", and I do so hope that the natural remedy works too! I just wonder if other women out there experienced any of this as they approached menopause? You always hear about the hot flashes..........but what about the other stuff that is affecting every minute of every day? How do they cope? I just want to go home and crawl in bed, but I think it's better if I stay and work. Kind of gives me something to focus on, besides these sad feelings in me, you know?
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Sassykat
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Posted: 5 December 2007 09:12 pm |
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How are you feeling Hisgal?
Is there anything that you were maybe taking and then stopped taking it that could have affected your serotonin levels or moods?
I took melatonin for a couple of weeks to help me sleep and then the next week when I wasn't taking it I was very emotional and weepy. I also have been more weepy this week since trying this Zone diet. And this is the happy time of month for me, so I know it's due to a lack of carbs.
What you describe sounds exactly like what I went through when I went through my antidepressant withdrawals. It was so powerful. It just seemed like a mean force that shook all the laughter and smiles out of me. I was deep in a despair that was out of my control and I literally was crying in public when I did not want to be. At least I had an idea what it was and felt in my heart that God would heal me with time. I knew my body had to learn to produce it's own serotonin again.
I think it must be very troubling to not be real sure what the cause is.
I saw a passing mention of bananas helping serotonin levels on the news. I know you don't feel like eating, but I wonder if there are some foods that would help.
I wish you lived nearby!!!!! I wouldn't let you go through this by yourself.
I hope these things you're trying help you. I will keep praying for you.
Let us know how you are doing. Is there anything I can do to help?
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Posted: 5 December 2007 09:27 pm |
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I don't know why I can't remember that your name is Pat. I have a sister named Pat!
I just had a quick thought. Have you heard of progesterone cream? I know of a few ladies who are using it to help them with their perimenopause / menopause symptoms. They claim it has "done them a world of good".
Just an idea of something that could be tried maybe. Of course, I just want to help. Please don't take any of my suggestions as being pushy. We are all different. I just can't bear the thought of you going through what I went through. I so hope you will be healed soon.
 Take good care sweetie!
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Hisgal
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Posted: 5 December 2007 10:19 pm |
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Sassykat,
Thanks so much for your care and concern. I think that maybe because you've been through these symptoms yourself, you understand how scary they are, and how helpless you feel...........and sort of "out of body", because this isn't the real "me"....it's like I'm watching someone else react like this! I would never take your suggestions as being "pushy"..........I know you just care what happens
No, I can't think of anything that I might have been taking, and quit, that might be causing these symptoms. I take a liquid multi-vitamin/mineral supplement.....a liquid magnesium/calcium..........and a soy/black cohash capsule. Other than the occasional ibuprofen, that's it! And none of it has changed..........for years.
I did do some reading on diet related topics. I do remember reading about bananas, also whole grains, milk, turkey, fruit, legumes. And avoid alcohol, caffeine, and simple carbs/sugars. The only thing I'd be doing wrong there, is that I do drink coffee.......but I've been doing that since I was 16, on a fairly regular basis. Also, eat a diet to keep your blood sugar level.
My chiro gave me a homeopathic remedy, and I think it was sepia. It was to help regulate my hormone levels. She wanted to start with that, and see if that was where the problem was. She said it could take a few hours to a few days............last night for dinner, I actually felt like I wanted to eat, not like I had to eat (not that that is good for the weight loss ) And my daughter called from CO (Thornton) and we had a really long talk..........before I really didn't want to talk to anyone! And this morning/today........I haven't cried once! I am really starting to feel more like my old self. Of course, I did last Friday/Saturday too, then spiraled down again. So, I am taking this one day at a time..........but with hope. Thank goodness I watched/helped my MIL go through depression a few years ago, or I would have thought I was just going crazy!
Thanks so much for your prayers! I've got all my kids and some in-laws praying for me too, and I know it's helped. God has shown me in many ways, that He is guiding my steps and walking with me or maybe I should say, that He's carrying me??
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Sassykat
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Posted: 6 December 2007 01:35 am |
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I am so glad that you ate dinner and haven't cried today. Thank you God.
Probably it is your hormones. Hopefully that stuff will work that the chiro gave you. I'm not familiar with it, but I know there are many different things that can be used to help balance hormones out. It make take a while. When I was looking into Vitex to balance my hormones the information I found stated that it could take a couple months. Vitex is somehow suppose to "affect" (how I'm not sure) the pituitary gland. And I don't know if it's influence is on all hormones or just encourages progesterone output. I don't know.
It sounds like you're on the right track. I am hopeful that you'll get better soon. I am relieved to hear your chiro gave you the sepia and it sounds like it will help.
As many times as you can through out the day just visualize Jesus holding you close in His arms. He is holding you, just like you said. And this suffering that we go through helps us to be more loving and be more like Him. Try not to allow any negative thoughts come to your mind during this time. Just continually repeat the good things that you know to be true. How much your family and your friends all love you and how so very much God loves you. And believe that you will get better - because you will!
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Hisgal
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Posted: 6 December 2007 02:42 pm |
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So far today, I've only cried once. That was when I heard on the radio, on the way into work............
The will of God will not bring you to anything.................. that the grace of God cannot bring you through.
It's like they were talking to me, and telling me exactly what I needed to hear. He is so at work in my life, even in this tough time!
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Sassykat
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Posted: 6 December 2007 03:21 pm |
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Normally, I feel that crying is a good thing. So much these days we try and not feel anything. We harden our hearts because we don't want to let ourselves get hurt and then it turns into something destructive, like anger.
But when a person's body is out of balance and these sad feelings are taking over, it's like they're steering the boat on their own whether it's the way we want to go or not. And then it seems we just want to feel normal again.
I do believe God is with you Pat. He is very much with you. He was with you when you read my troubles in my journal and you prayed for me and hoped that things would get better for me. Remember that? And when I came and posted how well things were going in my life and you read that, and rejoiced and were happy and relieved for me.
I was so touched by the kindness and love that you showed me being a complete stranger. The good Lord has given you those gifts and you are very special to Him.
Let us know how things go for you today.
*****HUG*****
I just prayed for you and I will pray for you again this afternoon and this evening.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 6 December 2007 04:27 pm |
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Thanks, Sassykat!
Oooooh, that made me cry again........but good tears this time
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Sassykat
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Posted: 6 December 2007 06:08 pm |
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| Maybe I should come to your journal and tell you jokes. I always have a hard time thinking of any though.
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Sassykat
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Posted: 7 December 2007 03:16 pm |
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| How are you doing Pat? I've been praying for you fervently.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 7 December 2007 04:59 pm |
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Sassykat,
Thanks for checking up on me Hey, I even used the smiley face
Yesterday was a tough one, until I got to my grandkids. They always make me smile My granddaughter was having her 1 year picture done, and then a Christmas pose of all 3 kids. The 1 yr pic went well.........and I got the 4 yr old out of his pre-school clothes and into his good "Christmas clothes" while that was going on. By the time both boys were ready, and it was time to do the Christmas pic, the granddaughter was crabby! She looked like a little doll in her new dress..........so cute. But, she just cried and screamed! She had 4 shots on Monday, during her checkup.......and my daughter said she'd been crabby in the afternoons/evenings since then. So, maybe it was that? But, what can you do at this point? The appt. was made early. Oh well, we will sit the kids in front of the tree this weekend and snap a few digitals. Somebody's tree......I guess I haven't been in the mood to get ours up yet.
It did really cheer me up to see the grandkids and spend time with them. The hubs stopped in at the photo studio at Target after work, and lent a hand too...........thank goodness! It took all 3 of us! I choked down some dinner, and while hubs went to his American Legion meeting, I scrubbed floors, washed rugs and baked a double batch of Peanut Blossoms.....and, no I didn't taste one! It really helps to be around people and to stay busy, if I can make myself start something. However, I did skip a Holiday Luncheon for the office yesterday. I figured that would be too many happy people, and I just felt I couldn't handle it.
This morning has been OK........my favorite breakfast tasted like sandpaper, but at least I didn't gag on it And I haven't cried yet!............well I was a little weepy during morning devotions, but mostly at the awesomeness of God. The reading was just for me, again! And the psalm for today was 121........how appropriate!
Thanks so much for the prayers, Sassykat! I just can never say that often enough..........I'm feeling them! I do feel better than last week........just not myself yet. And there seem to be times that are better, and times that are worse. Hopefully the "better days" will just increase to take over the "worse days"??? I'm just a little apprehensive about these 2 Christmas celebrations this weekend! Christmas.....and all it's changes for our family this year.........seems to be one of my triggers And that TTOM lasted so long, that it will soon be time for it to come again. Just a little afraid of the hormone swing putting me way down again.............
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Sassykat
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Posted: 7 December 2007 05:46 pm |
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Thank you so much for telling me how your day went. I was worried about you, but I also enjoyed hearing about your day.
Your grand daughter, the baby sounds so sweet. I bet it was her shots that made her crabby all week. I have some pictures of my kids when they were little, not smiling. They are still precious pictures.
I have heard that Christmas is a tough time for people. I've never really understood this, but this year the subject has been coming up a lot for some reason. I use to think it was because the holidays make people feel sad when they can't be with their family, but I've been learning about the catholic faith and taking classes and the priests have stated that during Advent most people struggle. I have noticed it myself and in some of our family members. I seem to be having to "fight some negative thoughts" that keep entering my mind. Doubts...I don't know where they are coming from, but they are not welcome!
I think I will go and look up psalm 121. Hopefully you will gradually feel better and better. If my own hormones don't balance out soon I'm thinking of trying some progesterone cream myself. I used it for a few months a couple of years ago and it helped me then. I always try (since my problems with prescriptions) to let my body heal itself naturally, but sometimes some supplements used temporarily can provide a lot of relief.
Yesterday I felt compelled to pray for you all day really. And I will continue to pray for you everyday. Here's one good thing already coming out of this - you have got me praying on a regular basis which I wasn't currently doing!
Is your avatar a picture of your cat? If so, what's the cat's name? I bet your pets sense what you are going through.
Keep me posted! *****HUG*****
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Hisgal
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Posted: 7 December 2007 09:20 pm |
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Sassykat wrote: I have heard that Christmas is a tough time for people. I've never really understood this, but
Sassykat, I have always heard this too, but never felt it before. I can understand it for many people........those who have lost a loved one...........who have no money for gifts.............who are facing a fatal illness..........who have no hope in a Savior...........
But, that's not me...........which is why it's so weird that it seems to set me off! Like I said maybe all the changes bother me more than I know?? I feel for all those who are feeling like I am for Christmas. I pray they find hope!
Sassykat wrote:
I seem to be having to "fight some negative thoughts" that keep entering my mind. Doubts...I don't know where they are coming from, but they are not welcome!
Now this is going to be a strictly Christian answer, but I always blame  Satan for them. It seems that the firmer I feel in my faith, the harder Satan works to undermine my faith.......and he seems to work mostly in my mind. He seems to like messing with it!
Hey, isn't Psalm 121 just a keeper?
Sassykat wrote:
Is your avatar a picture of your cat? If so, what's the cat's name? I bet your pets sense what you are going through.
Yeah, that's one of mine (ours). That one is called Sprite, and she's mostly a mama's cat. She is 2 yrs. old............the other is an orange tiger, with almost identical white markings and his name is Squirt. He is 9 years old. He's is a mama's and a papa's boy. They are both lap cats...........the minute you sit down, one of them is in your lap. We love it! We also have a very loving stray, that came about 3 years ago, that we named Shaggy. She's a long hair cat and lives out in our garage. She's black with similar white markings to the other two. It's like we have one of each color! Since Shaggy arrived, Squirt and Sprite rarely get a mouse to catch or chase.
It is so neat that our pets do seems to sense what we are going through, don't they? Sometimes I have both of them curled up with me............how comforting, and I feel so loved!
Thanks for the hugs and caring. Today is a fairly good day after all. I'm feeling more "me" this afternoon. Keep the prayers coming!
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Posted: 8 December 2007 12:25 am |
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Thank you Lord for giving Pat a good day.
Yeah, I've had my suspicions of where those doubts and negative thoughts were coming from. Sometimes I listen wondering if they are my own and other times I just shoo them away.
We have two indoor cats. Sammy who has orange and white stripes with medium to long fur. She's fairly easy going. And Pepper, whom we adopted this summer. Pepper is dark gray and white striped with long hair. Pepper has a weird personality at times, but she is affectionate too. Both like to sit in my lap, but not at the same time because I'm not sure they care for each other that much. There have been a few "arguments" between them.
Take care my dear, hope you have a peaceful, warm evening. I shall still remember you in all of my prayers. If you feel badly and it gets much worse, let me know and I'll ask if I can put you on the prayer chain.
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Sassykat
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Posted: 8 December 2007 12:31 am |
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I'm so sorry Pat, I just posted all of that under my husbands username. I'm sorry.
I really need to get in the habit of always checking to make sure that I am logged in under my name. It's a good thing there aren't more of my family members logging in to CPH or that would really be confusing!
Sorry dear! Just pretend you see SassyKat there where it says FireManJoe.
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