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solarpowered
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Posted: 29 March 2006 03:04 am |
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Hi:D,
I have read quite a few posts and was interested enough to purchase the plan. What I noticed was that there was no mention of the 3 day break period after 11 days. In fact, it didn't even mention an eleventh day. On day ten, I'm suppose to just repeat from day 1. Did they change the diet or did I purchase the wrong plan? I went to the fatloss4idiots.com and after signing up and paying my $27 to clickbank, it took me to the dietaccess.com for the Diet generator and 10 idiot proof rules handbook. What interested me was that I could have that break.
I also noticed one member speaking of a "cardiac plan"? What is that, there is no mention of it anywhere.
Thanks for any advice.
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kiara
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Posted: 29 March 2006 04:04 am |
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i think thats the 10 idiot proof rules (which is more flexible and doesnt tell you what exactly to eat, just the general food groups). try clicking on 'idiot proof diet generator' above '10 idiot proof rules'. :)
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solarpowered
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Posted: 29 March 2006 08:40 am |
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oops, i guess i didn't read it all as clearly as i thought.
Thanks kiara!
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Cowgirl
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Posted: 4 April 2006 06:45 pm |
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| How are you doing on the diet???
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solarpowered
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Posted: 24 April 2006 07:39 am |
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Hi cowgirl,
Sorry I have not been back to this forum in quite awhile, but I just wanted to let you know that on my first 11 day cycle, I lost 5lbs. This is quite impressive since I have been on every diet imaginable.... 6WBM, Atkins, South Beach, Body Type, Abs Diet, 8 minute plans, BFFM etc. and have not lost anything for almost a year! I ate healthy and worked out everyday, it was so frustrating! I have lost weight on some of those diets, but the weight was so much slower on those plans, plus as mentioned earlier, I have plateaued for almost a year after the last diet. I ended up trying this plan from reading the forum and was quite impressed with the results of the members. This is definitely the easiest 5lbs I have lost. The biggest thing I've learned was portion control. This was my missing link. I now know when my tummy is almost full.
OK, now the present. My 11 day cycle ended with my 3 cheat days landing on Easter weekend. I seriously and grossly binged on that weekend and the whole week:) after that and I expected to gain quite a bit.... but I only gained 2lbs. Not bad at all since I am the girl who use to just imagine food and gain 5lbs. Even though I had poor eating habits the past week, I am not going to let it discourage me. I will start the diet again tomorrow and am looking forward to it.
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Jayelle
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Posted: 24 April 2006 05:50 pm |
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Solarpowered, first I would like to congratulate you on two things. Losing the 5 lbs and only gaining 2 back while on hiatis.  I'd say that's pretty darn good. Glad to see you back on the wagon and joining us again.:D
I was so excited to see that you had posted because I wanted to ask you a question. I am very interested to know how you did following the 10 day rotation version. I will be trying this way starting next week Monday as I am just 1 lb away from my original goal and want to take off a few pounds beyond that point. I'm going to finish out this cycle, have my cheats and then start the 10 day rotation.
I remember you'd followed the 10 day rotation first and then learned of the diet generator. How did that first 10 days go? I am sooooo curious.
Jayelle
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Cowgirl
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Posted: 24 April 2006 06:01 pm |
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Good job Solarpowered!
I am like you in that I was not having any luck getting the weight off with other methods; this is the easiest 5# I have lost (since the pre-middle-age metabolism sluggish-ness hit!).
I too blew it over Easter and started anew. I am not weighing in until Friday morning, the first day of my cheat days. I did not control myself well in the other cheat days and now I am planning explicitly what to have (my Revival soy bars, diet jello, popcorn ).
I really miss cheese. I love love love cheese and have not had any. But I love getting back into my jeans even more!!!
I rode my horse yesterday and wore my skin-tight breeches and didn't look like a market hog in a riding outfit! ha.
Today I've had a mixed fruit dish of bananas, cherries, blueberries, strawberries, grapes and apples. Wonderful!
Let me know how you are doing!!
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Jayelle
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Posted: 24 April 2006 06:12 pm |
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Cowgirl, if cheese is one of your loves you should plan to have that on your weekend too. Don't stress out too much about it, remember the point of that period is to give your metabolism a shock with the change in intake. I honestly feel that it is very important to have those things that you enjoy but aren't able to have during the 11 day cycle, just to do so in moderation.
If you don't change it up I don't think the 11 day cycle will be as effective. After my second cycle I took it very easy during my cheats, showed no gain, and then onlylost 4 lbs during the next cycle, my worst yet. It is important to follow the rules of how to eat. That is one of the big things we should learn from using this way of eating.
If you apply those 10 dieting rules while on your cheat weekend by the time you reach your goal eating using those 10 rules will be second nature. That is one of the most important tools this diet plan has given me. I read them over from time to time to make sure I stay familiar with them.
Jayelle
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Cowgirl
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Posted: 24 April 2006 06:23 pm |
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Those are valid points Jayelle. I believe you are right. I'm thinking of Jarlsberg... or Emmentaler....YUM.
I need to go and check out the 10 rules again...thanks!
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solarpowered
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Posted: 24 April 2006 11:33 pm |
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Hi Jayelle,
Just to let you know, you have truley been an inspiration! Great job and only 1 lb to your initial goal weight. Wow!
I wanted to let you know that I started with the Diet Generator since it looked easier with it all laid out. I guess unconsciously I was looking for structure in my diet and I was reading all your success, maybe it was the way to go. I have 2 little boys (1 and 4 yrs old) that I have to take care of. Taking care of them and having fun is so much easier when their schedule is structured.... so why wouldn't it work for me?
Sorry that I cannot give you any input on the 10 day rotation. That is what I will be trying for next round. I wish you luck in the next cycle and I know it will be successful for you!
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solarpowered
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Posted: 24 April 2006 11:45 pm |
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Hi Cowgirl,
Thanks for your encouragement:D. Sorry for your cheese craving. Mine has been a bad one all my life. I love fried foods and buttery foods with lots and lots of salt! Movie theater popcorn, potato chips, or a great fish and chips:) Also, since I had children, I have developed a sweet tooth. The Easter chocolate in my kids baskets were too good to resist!!! It's normally not in our house, so when it appears on these holidays, my husband and I went sort've crazy! We've been a lot better at holidays and junk food ....and it will continue to get better and better. Unlike my husband, it (the chocolate after effects) tends to stick around with me!
I too will not weigh myself until Friday. It's such an addiction to step on that thing! I am glad you were able to get into your skinny breeches and ride your horse. Thanks for the humor!
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candygirl
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Posted: 1 May 2006 06:18 am |
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Hi!!
I'm starting the diet tomoroow and I'm a little confused. I see that people are saying they miss cheese and will have it on their cheat days. I have cheese (it was a choice) on my diet plan. Can anyone explain?
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Jayelle
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Posted: 1 May 2006 06:06 pm |
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Candygirl, I don't think she was talking about cottage cheese.!!! LoL. I think she was referring to cheese in the solid form like some of the ones she mentioned.
Like, I love mozzarella sticks. I haven't had any since before starting this WOE in Feb.
Welcome again!
Jayelle
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seminakedcats
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Posted: 3 May 2006 07:33 pm |
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Mmmmmmm. Cheeeeeeese!
If anyone has seen previous Wallace and Gromit shorts (not the movie), you will know what the above means. For everyone else, Wallace is an inventor w/ a dog. Wallace has such a craving for cheeeeeeeese one evening that he decides to build a rocket and go to the moon (made of Swiss cheese). There's a gripping point at the end when they almost forget the crackers, but alas, they do get off the ground- if I remember correctly, it's been YEARS.
On this diet I keep thinking about cheese and then on my 3 days off, I forgot to eat any! I'm off this weekend, so I'm going for it!
Cheers Cheese-Loving Fellows!
Kit
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brandie
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Posted: 22 May 2006 08:29 pm |
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On my three cheat days, I stuffed myself at two meals. I weighed myself this moring and wasn't too shocked to see I gained all of my loss back. I assume this is mostly water weight. Anyone else have a gain after their three cheat days?
B
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Jayelle
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Posted: 22 May 2006 10:26 pm |
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Hi Brandie, I think we all have a gain after cheat weekend. A couple of pounds is standard. I was able to keep my gains relatively low about a pound or two.
This last period I don't know what I gained. I didn't weigh in.
Try not to worry about it and just learn from what you did. We know its not good to stuff ourselves, that doesn't mean its easy to stop eating food you really enjoy when you're satisfied. Hang in there :D
Jayelle
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thumper111
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Posted: 25 May 2006 09:04 pm |
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Hi Brandie,
Don't worry too much about the weight gain. Jayelle was right when she told me to weigh myself 5 days later and it would be gone. I put on 6lb (had originally lost 10) but that six pound was gone by day 6. I'm due to weigh in tomorrow morning, but I cheated and weighed today. I'm down an additional 5 lb so I'm not unhappy with a 15 pound weight loss in 25 days.
Thumper
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Jayelle
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Posted: 25 May 2006 09:59 pm |
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Wow Thumper you are doing great!! Congrats on the wonderful progress you are making.
Jayelle
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yohkos
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Posted: 26 May 2006 06:39 pm |
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Well I just finished my first go around after 2 trys in the past. I have to admit I do not do my 3 cheat days in a row. The diet is actually 14 days, so I limit myself to three cheat days throughout the diet. That way I found I do not get burnt out and if there is something planned, I use a cheat day and I just continue the diet from the day I left off. I found that I also do not cheat as badly this way and do not binge like I did in the past when the three cheat days came up all in a row and then gain most of it back (ugh). I hope this makes sense.
Oh well, please do not scream at me because I am not going by the rules! I am one of those people that is not organized or super structured, so this works for me. What is this, a type "C" personality, LOL.
I also take two hoodias in the morning and drink a 20 oz bottle of water before each meal and seems to help. Anyway it works for me and I lost 9 lbs for the first 14 days and I will continue on to another cycle. I am happy with that and have found this diet more enjoyable this way. For me this works because 3 cheat days in a row just calls for more self control than I can muster up.
Now if I would only exercise more than just walking the dog, I will be good to go.
Good luck everyone, I have enjoyed reading the posts and found it helps me to stay on this diet.
I have 31 lbs to go but also had to get out of that mindset and just think one day at a time. I was reading the diaries from others and also Jayelle's entires has been a big encouragement. I was thinking it just wasn't meant to come off, but I like everyone else, I can't have gone overnight and realized from others, that 2 lbs here and there does add up one day at time. Before we know it, 3 months will have gone by and our little jeans stashed in the closet will finally fit. Good thing jeans never go out of style. Mine look like 80's jeans, but thats okay because I am older and can get away with looking like a grandma, cuz I am! But when I get down to my goal, I am purchasing one sexy pair of low riders!
Love y'all
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losingallofit
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Posted: 6 June 2006 04:43 am |
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I have cheese on my plan too, and it's not cottage cheese. We eat cheese slices, so it's American, cheddar or mozzarella for us. We also get to put shredded cheese on one of our salads.
My husband and I are on this diet and absolutely love it. We love seeing the progress, and after a few days, it is not hard at all. With the results we've had it is totally motivating!!We also walk twice a day. The fruit day is hard, as well as the salad day, but it's only for a day, and then we can get back to the regular diet.
What is so great about this diet is the variety. Yes, I know that a lot of it is monotonous, but there is always something to look forward to. On Atkins, it was day after day of the same things. This offers changes every couple of days or so, so there's an end in sight.
For our 3 cheat days, we went overboard, and gained weight. We didn't even feel good. We are happy to be back on the diet, it feels good to feel pounds coming off every day.
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Jayelle
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Posted: 6 June 2006 05:46 pm |
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Hi losingallofit, the cheese discussion was from a couple of weeks ago when we were just discovering that there were two versions of the plan. The version that you are the following, the new version has this, the version that most of us who had been following for a while, the original plan, only allows cottage cheese and cheese with scrambled eggs.
Glad to hear that you and your husband are doing well on the plan.. I wish you continued success.
Jayelle
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icn06
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Posted: 29 August 2006 01:01 am |
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1-Okay today was my 11th day on the diet (for the first time) and I decided to start my cheat days due to date issues (trying to make my next cycle on the diet end at a certain time)...In the beginning of the day I followed the diet then decided to make it my cheat day...and so I would have 2 and half cheat days until I start again...Is this okay? Also for future reference is it okay to only take 2 cheat days flat out or would that make it less successful?
2-Secondly, can I get some tips/guidelines as to avoid gaining any of the weight back during my cheat days. I've lost about 8 lbs and I really want to keep it off because I have a long way to go
Thank you!
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jillybean720
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Posted: 29 August 2006 01:15 am |
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I'm sure they make the cheat period 3 days for a reason. It adds an element of calorie cycling to the plan. Since the 11 days of menus are pretty low-cal, you need this time of higher-calorie days to help bring your caloric average up to a more normal range. I don't think 2.5 instead of 3 days will hurt once, but I wouldn't cut the time short every cycle. If it were okay to cut it short, then it would be okay to cut it out, and the plan specifically says NOT to do that.
Secondly, you more than likely WILL gain weight during your days off. However, unless you are eating 3500 calories MORE than your body burns in a day (times however many pounds you end up gaining), you won't be gaining fat. You'll simply be retaining water (since you'll likely be eating more sodium and other junk). The pounds you gain during your off-plan days will go away very quickly once you begin your next cycle. I went CRAZY on my first 3 days off and ended up gaining back something like 8 pounds. It was ALL gone after just 4 days back on the plan, and I was even down another pound after the next day.
So, for advice, just don't go crazy. If your off-menu days consist of donuts for breakfast, Big Macs for lunch, pizza for dinner, and snacks of ice cream and potato chips in between, then yes, you'll gain back a lot of weight. Just be smart about it--sure, treat yourself to things you love so you don't feel deprived, but make sure you just have 1 servings of junk food, and make sure to eat nutritional foods (like fruits, veggies, lean meats, low-fat or fat-free dairy, and whole grains) more than junk.
It's hard, but we have to remember that these 3 days off the menus are not a free-for-all...they're a time to practice the good eating habits we've established and make good decisions on our own, learning to incorporate additional foods and treats without going overboard.
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icn06
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Posted: 29 August 2006 01:35 am |
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| Thank you u've been really helpful :)
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beegoood
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Posted: 10 September 2006 05:43 am |
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| Hi Everyone! I am 52 years old and have been on quite a few diets in my life, including Atkins, Weight Watchers etc. I love this diet because I am actually figuring out my shortfalls from previous weight loss systems. By reading the posts, it seems that a lot of people struggle with the "Cheat Days". I am going to share my opinions as well as what I do on cheat days and hopefully it can assist you with your challenges. I feel that i am pretty much like the majority of the people that diet. I am basically addicted to food, so it seems, and I love to eat way too much. Like most of us, I was thinking about my cheat days and what I will eat when they finally arrive. All of the sudden a light bulb came on and I had a very common sense revelation. I thought to myself, hmmmm, I don't want to ruin my 11 days of weight loss by doing anything foolish, so how can "I have my cake and eat it too?" What an appropriate metaphor for this forum! Anyhow, what I decided to do was to use the diet rules as a guide, for my cheat days. What I mean by that is that I made sure that I got my water/water products in each day, no matter what! The next thing that I did was to commit to eating whatever I want each day, but for one of my meals, not all four! Yes, I did say four! I kept my four meals a day, but one of them was just like a snack, such as an apple or peach. I did also munch on some peanuts too. I kept to similar or the same types of meals that the diet provides, for the most part. I had fried eggs in butter and sausage for breakfast one day. The next day I had a large nectarine for breakfast. BTW, they are great for a quick on the run breakfast! I always drink a full 16 ounces of water before breakfast and each meal. This really helps with the portion control, which has always been my problem in the past. One day I had a half a turkey sub sandwich. Another day I had Taco Bell meal. I had ribs and chicken at another restaurant. I ate my dinner and didn't gorge myself! I "Cheated" but I did not commit diet suicide. This is so important, as we all have to discipline ourselves to be successful and this diet gives us the tools and systems to adopt into our everyday eating habits, whether we are dieting or not. Heck, my spouse and I actually shared a meal the other night, as this place serves portions that are way too big. I saved $12 by doing that! I am certainly no expert, but I am focussed on what works and I hope this will give you something to consider, if you are struggling. I waited until after my first cycle to start exercise and now I do 30 minutes twice a day on a glider (No impact). I actually moved it into my livingroom, behind my lazy boys, so that I can watch television to keep the boredom to a minimum. OK, here is where I am on the diet. I weighed in at 262lbs at the start. I lost 11 pounds in week one. I also lost 1 lb. on my cheat days. That freaked me out! How cool is that? My goal is to lose a total of 62 lbs, so I have 51 lbs to go and I am giving myself another 6 months to do it in. I hope that is more than enough time, but we will see. I will be on this program for at least 5 more cycles, given the 10 pound per cycle average. Even though I have just lossed 11 pounds, I can already see my face thinning a bit. BTW, the posts that I read here are very inspiring!!
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beegoood
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Posted: 10 September 2006 06:09 am |
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| Check out my post entitled, "Taking full advantage of "Cheat Days". I think it can help. Good luck!
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CaitsLosinLBS
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Posted: 13 September 2006 06:53 am |
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| That's great about your weight loss so far, congrats!!! Thanks for the advice on the cheat days!
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melleny4
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Posted: 17 September 2006 10:01 pm |
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Hi, I am a newcomer, just started the diet today because of this awesome forum. I have gained 34 pounds in three years. Does anyone ever have lite beer on their cheat days?
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Dobie
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Posted: 18 September 2006 05:23 pm |
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melleny4 wrote: Hi, I am a newcomer, just started the diet today because of this awesome forum. I have gained 34 pounds in three years. Does anyone ever have lite beer on their cheat days?
You are not supposed to, but as with everything on cheat days, if you enjoy the relaxed choices of food but keep to the same way of eating (four meals, don't stuff, 2.5 hours between, drink water, etc) you will reap the best benefit of the diet.
For me, after I hit my first goal, I found it hard to keep so strict and I have relaxed. I now float in a 10 lbs range that I am happy with. When I relax too much (aka to much lite beer would be your scenario), then I go back on and float back down. One day I will put it in overdrive and drop to my next goal.
The danger I have learned with beer, etc is the desire to snack and not stop at one. You feed your body calories constantly and it is not the best idea on an ongoing basis.
Set a goal, and when you hit it, reward yourself with a night where you can drink and snack. IF you TRULY mean drink one lite beer with a meal on the cheat days and it helps you stay on the diet the rest of the time, I would drink it.
Cheers!
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susanleanne
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Posted: 5 October 2006 11:17 pm |
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Hello Again Everybody,
I am getting ready and geared up to get going on this however my hubby wants me to wait until after Thanksgiving ... we are in Canada and it is coming up on October 9. I don't know what to do cause I wonder how hard it will be to be sitting down at dinner with everybody and not be able to eat what they are having and no turkey sandwiches all week after .... lol
I guess I just have to convince myself that skinny looks better than fat tastes ... lmao!
Also did you all start on a day so that your cheat days would fall when you wanted them to or did you just start  It would be really nice to have my cheat days either fall on a fri, sat and sun or on a sat sun mon.
I am so excited to be starting this and appreciate any comments or suggestions you have.
How will you be dealing with holidays Any great strategies
TIA!!!
Susan
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Hisgal
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Posted: 6 October 2006 02:52 am |
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Hi Susan,
I just started this WOE again on Monday. (I was on it from June to October 2005). Most people start this diet on a Monday, so their cheat days fall on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
I pigged out the weekend before I started....just my dieting mentality. So, on Monday I was up 6.4 lbs from 4 days previous. I checked my weight this morning, after 4 days on the plan, and I am down 8.4 lbs. Of course, I know that most of that is water weight, but it's good to have my binge eating disappear so fast.
So, for Canadian Thanksgiving, so you do the turkey, potatoes, stuffing, cranberries and pumpkin pie like we do in the US? I wish I had good advice for that. It's on a Monday? If it were me, I'd eat my favorites and start on Tuesday. You can always short yourself a meal day at the end, so your cheat days are Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Or follow your 11 days and just have 2 cheat days on the first cycle, then start on a Monday next cycle. That's my 2 cents
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susanleanne
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Posted: 10 October 2006 10:00 am |
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Hi Hisgal yes in Canada we do the turkey, stuffing, potatoes, cranberry, veggies, gravy, buns, dessert (pumpkin pie) .... the works oh and don't forget the brussels ... lol
So anyway I made the whole dinner yesterday and we went over to a friends today for their thanksgiving dinner. I didn't go overboard but I did have my fill ..... did not eat until just satisfied ate a little extra .... but it was yummy ..... am going to start this week now that thanksgiving is over for me ..... am really excited and can't wait to start losing the weight. Am giving myself at least tomorrow to have a turkey sandwich or two then on to this fabulous WOE ......
I know it might sound like I am stalling but truthfully I just think if I get the turkey out of my system I will do better and not be tempted to cheat.
Susan
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Dobie
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Posted: 12 October 2006 05:20 pm |
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susanleanne wrote:
I know it might sound like I am stalling but truthfully I just think if I get the turkey out of my system I will do better and not be tempted to cheat.
Susan
No, it totally makes sense. You have to set yourself up to succeed. My wife and I always start on Monday so our cheat days fall on weekends (we like Friday off too).
Last year I had a trip in each month, Sept-Dec. For the Sept and Oct, we stopped the diet and got back on afterward. It slowed progress as I had to lose some "repeat" pounds, but I am okay with that.
In November with the holidays, I knew I was in trouble to stay on it so having lost 25 pounds since August, I just bailed completely and enjoyed the holidays. Not a good idea since I gained most of the weight back. I do NOT recommend that nor will I do that again. I will temper it as follows:
On the diet through out the holdiays so I don't have permission to go crazy. However, I will do it with leniency.
If someone brings in goodies, I will take one to my desk and either make it my meal (pleanty of energy in those, I am sure) or have fruit and the treat. I will try to tell myself (and others) I am on a diet and pass whenever I can, but for those where I "can't" pass it up, I will not beat myself up.
I figure if I am on the diet 7 of 11 days straight up and I adjust for the four or so times I allow myself to indulge, then I bet I will still drop. I will consider them special and savor the moment instead of downing five cookies without a thought.
Hope this helps!
Last edited on 12 October 2006 05:36 pm by Dobie
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Dobie
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Posted: 15 January 2007 05:48 am |
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Zandor - How was the first cheat weekend?
Any tips for others? Good progress?
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Zandor
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Posted: 15 January 2007 08:02 pm |
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The weekend went really well acutually. Friday morning, the first cheat day, I was down 14.5 lbs. This morning when I weighed, I was only down 12.5, but I'm happy with that - I figured a lot is from Water weight that should not be hard to lose again.
Don't really know of any tips except that I did not snack between meals, which I've always done, and I kept the portions small. It was hard to resist some things, but the end goal is worth it. I also tried to keep up on the water intake - I did not do it well, but I probably got in at least 6 or 7 glasses.
Anyone else have suggestions on how to make it through a cheat weekend without gaining?
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Scambo
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Posted: 29 March 2007 02:55 pm |
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Hi folks
Myself and my girlfriend have just finished the first 11 day phase and we've each lost 7lbs so we're delighted. We haven't been hungry and with what we've learned we know we've changed our eating habits and our health for the better.
My question is about the three days off and we'd be grateful to get anyone's advice on this although we know there are probably no right and wrong answers.
Each diet meal seems to be either purely protein or purely carbohydrate and never a combination of the two. What have you folks done on the three days off? Have you continued with the all-protein or all-carbohydrate meals or have you abandoned any planning like this and just eaten as you did pre-diet?
We don't want to put weight back on during the next three days so we'd really appreciate what has worked for you and we really would appreciate any answers even if it's that you ate fish and chips (french fries for those of you not in Scotland) for every meal for the three days off and lost another 2 lbs (which I'm hoping someone has )
Another thing that I'd like to know is if anyone is aware of the ratio of solely protein and solely carbohydrate meals that people should eat generally. How many of one compared to the other should we be having? Again, we'd welcome any answers.
Thanks to everyone who has posted on this forum. It was your posts that made us decide that this excellent and healthy diet was the way to go.
Cheers
Ken
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Dobie
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Posted: 29 March 2007 06:48 pm |
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Here is what I suggest:
- DRINK YOUR WATER. Many times you want to snack is dehydration. Keep up the water
- Stick to four meals a day, but choose the foods you want
- Stop when you are satisfied.
You will gain some water weight if you have salt, sugar (including flour and simple carbs), or alcohol, but you will lose it quickly if you stay smart. Drink water 20 minutes before each meal, eat slowly, and get in some fruit or vegitable and supplement with the good stuff.
If you blow it, DON'T STRESS! My first cycle ever I lost 13 or so. Then I cheated like crazy (NOT doing the above) and put it ALL back on. It took the next cycle to get it back off, but then I kept it off.
However, the way our bodies work, this is a time to reset and be sure you are not in a starvation mode, so do not plan on losing weight or you will force the starvation plateau.
Best of luck,
Dobie
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barbienut75
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Posted: 30 March 2007 06:16 am |
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I followed this plan 2 years ago and have just started back this week. Last time, when I had my three days off I would keep a list during the 11 days of things I craved, and would plug them in on the 4 meals. I also only ate 1 thing at eat meal. Say for instance I wanted tacos, with guacamole dip. I would have like two small taco's for one meal, and then 1/2 cup of guacamole and a few chips, by time the 11 days rolled around that is all I could eat, very small amounts. I remember that is when the KFC snakcers came out and I saw the commercials, I wrote it down, and had one, and it was satisfying. I craved Twinkie, so I bought one and had it as a meal.
I normally gained back maybe 2 or 3 lbs, but in 5 weeks I lost 29lbs. Just follow the basic rules, of water, stopping when you are satisfied, and try to keep up walking. I walked 1/2mile 2 x's a day the during the week. and one time on the weekends.
Keep up the good work, I hope I do as well. I've been really good, tonight was the first time I got a little hungry, and I had a banana.
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Scambo
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Posted: 5 April 2007 07:33 pm |
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Thanks Dobie and barbienut for your answers. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.
We're on Day 4 of our second phase now after putting on 5lbs collectively during our three days off. However, that didn't disappoint us as, judging from posts on the forum, it's quite common. And we did push the boat out on our days off.
Still, it's nose to the grindstone again for the next 11 days.
Ken
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kimi
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Posted: 9 June 2007 05:37 am |
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Hello, i want to know what would be ideal diet on cheat days. i know that we can eat "normally", but is there any ways that is more ideal?
Are we supposed to eat normal diet but it's still kinna healthy?
Let's say fried chicken--how bad will the fat content contribute to the 3 days in relation to the next 11day plan?
Or let's say clear noodle soup--it's got carb but not as fatty as fried foods. Is it a better choice?
What kind of balance between fat, carb, and protein would be ideal? I just don't want to put the ones i just lost back too much though.
Anyone experience what might be ideal diet for cheat days please share here.
Kimi
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Peter
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Posted: 10 June 2007 09:26 am |
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kimi,
I don't want to discourage anyone from posting a reply here, but if you'll scroll down through previous topics... even onto other pages of topics... there are a number of topics on cheat days.
Peter
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kimi
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Posted: 10 June 2007 11:29 am |
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Peter,
I know what you mean. I've browsed through many posts in the forum. They are either a little vague or not as clear. I just want to know what's best to eat in cheat days without stuffing the plan up. I already lost 5kg........on day7!! and i'm serious about this plan and do all i can to make it work for me.
I bought the book off the affiliate link here, why you make it like i shouldn't be asking important questions here? You want the forum to be so quiet and no more affiliate sales?
Kimi
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Peter
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Posted: 10 June 2007 08:26 pm |
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I wrote, "I don't want to discourage anyone from posting a reply here."
I thought I saw some good information answering your question and I was trying to direct you to it to help you. You were brand new to these forums and I wasn't sure you knew how everything worked.
The purpose of this forum is to help people, not to make sales. I had never even heard of FL4I before it became a popular topic in the forums.
I'm sorry I posted,
Peter
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Dobie
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Posted: 12 June 2007 05:07 am |
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kimi wrote: Are we supposed to eat normal diet but it's still kinna healthy?
Well, "normal" diet sounds like you mean eat like we used to which is a bad idea. "Kinda healthy" is a great idea. What I do is drink the water, eat in four meals, but I eat what I feel like keeping each meal below 750 calories for me.
Let's say fried chicken--how bad will the fat content contribute to the 3 days in relation to the next 11day plan?
Or let's say clear noodle soup--it's got carb but not as fatty as fried foods. Is it a better choice?
Remember the foods that are "always" banned include fried foods. Do I eat them sometimes? Yes, but I have lost 50 lbs on this so feel a bit cocky. I can tell you, it hurts my weight loss, but I can maintain. Noodle soom is a much better choice...just watch your quantities and stop when you are satisfied.
What kind of balance between fat, carb, and protein would be ideal? I just don't want to put the ones i just lost back too much though.
Focus more on the number of meals, drink your water, and stop when you are satisfied. Ideal is to add fruit and veggies to each meal to help fill you up with the good healthy food.
Good luck!
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Dobie
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Posted: 12 June 2007 05:13 am |
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kimi wrote: I bought the book off the affiliate link here, why you make it like i shouldn't be asking important questions here? You want the forum to be so quiet and no more affiliate sales?
I don't think he means not to post at all. In fact, I know I have answered this same question twice. However, I searched on cheat days and after 7 pages of results, I did not find it. So I for one don't mind you asking again, but Peter has a good memory and is right about it being addressed already.
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Dobie
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Posted: 12 June 2007 05:17 am |
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Ooo! I used Google and a complex string using words I knew would be there so no way would you have found it. BUT it is worth a read:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/view_topic.php?forum_id=28&id=1518
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Be123
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Posted: 19 July 2008 07:20 pm |
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Hey all,
I just finished my first cycle and lost about 15 lbs. Iwalked everyday for 60 mins straight so i guess that helped. Now im on my cheat days period and I was wondering if you pros could tell me if what im planning on eating is either completely wrong or right.
1 day - Pizza, Fruits, Bran toasts and some lean chicken.
2 day - (going to a party for 1 meal), fruits, ice cream + fruits, vegetables
3 day - subway - fruits, remaining pizza, lean chicken or turkey.
This is my plan so i would like some feedback if either im completely blowing up all the work i did or im on the right track.
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sunshine
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Posted: 19 July 2008 08:31 pm |
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Be...many of us see a rise in the scale weight after cheat ...Choice days....but it usually disappears somewhere in the cycle and we lose more...so do not be alarmed if you are one who gains back water.
After afew choice cycles you will see what works best for you....it is important to have choice days to shock the metabolism...but each person has to figure out how "big" a shock they need....lol Your plan sounds fine...just try it and see.
SS
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ziera
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Posted: 9 August 2008 01:56 am |
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I had hoped I'd find advice on how to deal with the 3-day diet break. But it seems there are a lot of differences of opion.
Of course the 10 Diet Rules or the 11-day Diet mentions nothing about how one you should eat on those 3 days.
1. Do you follow the Diet Rules
2. Do you eat all you want and risk putting all the lost weight back on
What I have done is email Customer Service at FL4I in hope that they will expand
on how to eat etc. on those 3 days.
Wish me luck 
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kitty
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Posted: 9 August 2008 02:39 am |
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ziera~hi and welcome. on your cheat days you can eat anything you like. try to keep 4 smaller meals and contiue to drink your water. and yes you will put on weight back. i have found the less weight i lost on cheat days the less weight i lost on the next cycle. but that could just be me. so if you are craving any particular food, the cheat days are there for that. so go ahead, have a piece of cake, pizza, can of pop...enjoy!
Kitty
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