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Size10/12in2007 New Member

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Posted: 15 January 2007 04:58 pm |
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Hi All--
I'm on day 8 and i have lost 6lbs so far. I have not been eating properly for the last 2 days, i'm missing meals bcos of the onset of a cold. I'm also unable to drink much water bcos of my scratchy throat.
Mishie- I got a tub of fat free cool whip yesterday. Here is the nutritional info for 2tbsp: Total Fat 0g, Cholestrol 0g, Sodium 5mg, Total Carbs 3g, Sugar 1g and Protein 0g. I hope it helps along with the info from others. In regards to bread...i actually have it 3 out of the 11 days. Way to go on your weight loss!!!!
Ruth- Even with going off plan you didn't gain, that's excellent. I hope your next cycle goes smoothly.
Have a great on plan day everyone.
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Mishie New Member
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Posted: 15 January 2007 11:01 pm |
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Well survived day 8 - JUST!!! Eating veges all day is THE most disgusting thing. Had to go to bed early just so that I wouldn't pig out on something different 
Can almost see the end of the first stint. Have already thought about my 3 days off, and am going to behave myself. No point in undoing all the hard work I've done by eating takeaways or something similar. Just going to stick to the water and the 4 meals and maybe throw a sandwich or something like that in. We are doing "Indian" on Saturday night so that will be nice, just have to limit the portions and not stuff myself silly like I have done the other times 
Thanks for the cool whip info everyone. Will now go hunt around the supermarket for something similar.
Have a good day on plan everyone
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twstychik New Member

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Posted: 18 January 2007 02:50 pm |
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Well, I give up... with this diet at least. I did my 11 days but it was so strict that I cheated... alot. I also did alot of substituting. I still managed to lose a few pounds but it's just too limiting for me. The lack of starch and sugar left me with really bad cravings for both. So, I think I'm gonna go back to WW which doesn't work as quickly but does work for me.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 18 January 2007 05:45 pm |
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twstychik, I am sorry to hear that. It sounds like you know what you're issues with this way of eating are and I do hope you find something to stick to.
I am always reading up on different ideas (UltraMatabolism, Eat To Live, etc) and I find many commonalities in them. Peter even has a page on that on this site:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_diet.html
It may help you. I find that I can combine most of these quite successfully. For example, if I count the points that I consume on FL4I, I bet I stay well within Weight Watchers. But as you say, it is more limiting. You could still chose to go by this way of eating (4 meals a day, 2.5 hours between meals, no snacking, exercise and drink your water) and you can chose foods from your point list.
UltraMatabolism and ETL are both promoting natural healthy foods with low fat protiens and many fruit and vegitables and stearing clear of sugar, wheat, flour, salt, white rice, and white potatos. Food which have very low nutritional value in them. Again, WW is on the same page with this.
I hope you find something to work for you and keep in touch!
Dobie
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Mishie New Member
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Posted: 18 January 2007 11:12 pm |
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twstychik - are you sure? what foods are you cheating with? I've starting drinking diet coke when I get a sugar crave, certainly takes the edge off.
Just finished my 11 days and have lost 3.1kg (6.8 lbs). I am really happy with that! For me, its finally a diet that has as much protein as I can eat (can't go wrong with that ) and I can hang out for the 12th day if I really need to have something different (eg a small amount of rice). We're going to an Indian restaurant tomorrow night with some friends, so I'll just have to be wise with my food choices and my alcohol. Has anyone noticed that they can only handle smaller portions now? Not too sure why that is, but I seem to get full quickly (well not full, but satisfied )
So I spose I just monitor myself over the next 3 days and see what happens. I don't want to put on any weight! Should I stick loosely to the plan (ie no bread etc)? Does anyone have any ideas?
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scotsgirl New Member
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Posted: 19 January 2007 01:21 am |
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I started on Monday the 15th I am on day 4 and this morning was down 5 pounds. Started at 195.5 down to 190.5 this a.m. Want to get to 150 but I look good at 160.
I haven't started to excercise yet. Thought I would concentrate on the food this week and start next when my body is getting more use to it. I was doing the turbo jam in November and noticed a huge difference very quickly within a week. Just got some more turbo dvd's today to change things up when I start again.
I am on the old plan but would love the new plan. Hate paying again though. I dont know if anyone would be interested in exchanging plans. I have seen that some people on the new plan would like to see the old. So was thinking that maybe if someone wants to exchange email addresses we could do up maybe 2 or 3 cycles and exchange them just copy and paste to a word document. Anyway if anyone is interested let me know.
Dolbie thanks for the support. I turn 50 in July and have always been considered attractive but with this extra weight I seem to blend into the scenery. Not getting appreciative looks, and believe it or not when I am thinner people seem nicer they hold open doors and take more time talking to me. Could me the weight or maybe I am so sel conscious that I try to blend into the woodwork. Anyway have decided enough is enough by July I will be 150.
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scotsgirl New Member
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Posted: 19 January 2007 01:36 am |
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Hi all, I have the old version bought it a few months back and started the diet on Monday Jan 15th on day 4 and down 5 pounds. started at 195.5 and this a.m. was 190.5. Want to get down to 150 but look good at 160. Think when I get down to 170 might start doing weight watchers easier to live with. As Dobie said think I will follow the FL4I theories but count points.
I will be 50 in July. Would like to be at my weight by then. I find carrying the xtra weight difficult. I have been strugglin with it for about 3 years maybe a little more. I have an hour glass figure kind of lucky that way so when I am bigger it is proportioned. My hubby likes me at a higher weight that is just his preference not only on me but women in general not really big but heavier. He like my upper body proportions if you know what I mean. But he is always supportive when I am trying to loose and never judges when I am off dieting and eating too much. That is nice.
Anyway probably told you way more info then you wanted. I was wondering if anyone who has the new program would consider trading info with me. Thought if anyone want the old version (I have seen people ask) I could copy and paste 3 or 4 cycles with different picks in a word document and they could do the same for me.
If anyone is interested just respond here and we can find a way. I will be at my weight this July for my birthday. I have another 50 years to go and want to make sure I am healthy. Good luck all Dobie thanks for the help.
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Mishie New Member
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Posted: 22 January 2007 02:07 am |
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Hi guys, I've just finished the 3 days off plan. Didn't go exactly the way I wanted it, had dinner out at an Indian restaurant with a few wines on both Friday and Saturday nights. Had cereal a couple of mornings and a wrap sandwich thingie one day. Put back on 1.1kg (2.4lbs) so I know I could have done better, but at least I know what things I have to cut back on for next time.
How is everyone fairing up? Ruth how are you going - haven't heard from you for a while.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 22 January 2007 05:41 am |
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Mishie wrote: Hi guys, I've just finished the 3 days off plan. Didn't go exactly the way I wanted it, had dinner out at an Indian restaurant with a few wines on both Friday and Saturday nights. Had cereal a couple of mornings and a wrap sandwich thingie one day. Put back on 1.1kg (2.4lbs) so I know I could have done better, but at least I know what things I have to cut back on for next time.
Don't worry about it. 2.4 is usually water weight and should come off in two or three days. I usually gain more that this. Trust me...it is not likely real weight.
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twstychik New Member

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Posted: 22 January 2007 05:27 pm |
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Mishie wrote: twstychik - are you sure? what foods are you cheating with? I've starting drinking diet coke when I get a sugar crave, certainly takes the edge off. Yup, I'm sure! I tried Diet Pepsi for the sweet tooth and it made me want more sugar and it made me thirsty. Plus, Aspartame is very bad for you and my body seems to know it. If I drink to omuch diet pop I end up very nauseaus and sometimes I get headaches from it too.
I cheated on everything... I was craving bread and past and sugar. I just can't restrict myself that much. My plan is to go bach to WW where I can have these things in moderation. Plus, eating the same thing every other day gets boring and I tend to eat alot when I'm bored. So, I've at least learned how to control my eating so I don't gorge myself which is a great help in itself. I'm also gonna print off a few more menus incase I do change my mind later or need to lose some quick weight for any reason.
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annelies New Member
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Posted: 22 January 2007 10:20 pm |
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Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum, and I just started the FL4I diet, today was my first day! It went okay, but I had my last meal a few hours and I'm starving!!! I also have a terrible headache, is that normal? Does is get less? Thanks! Annelies
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 23 January 2007 05:08 am |
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annelies wrote: Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum, and I just started the FL4I diet, today was my first day! It went okay, but I had my last meal a few hours and I'm starving!!! I also have a terrible headache, is that normal? Does is get less? Thanks! Annelies
It did not happen to me, but it depends on your level of detox, I would guess.
Hunger depends on your eating habits. Eat enough to last to the next meal and if you are hungry, realize you are likely losing weight while the hunger lasts. That helps me quite a bit!
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Size10/12in2007 New Member

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Posted: 23 January 2007 05:03 pm |
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Hi All-
I started my 2nd cycle today, i gained 2lbs on my off days which lasted 6 days bcos i had an awful cold. I would love to lose 5lbs during this cycle, i plan to be diligent as it paid off in my first cycle. Have a great on plan day everyone.

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Zandor New Member

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Posted: 24 January 2007 01:56 am |
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Hey all!
Well, I'm a newbie but have not posted to this part yet, so figured I'd put my 2 cents in. I started Jan 1 and lost 14lbs my first cycle. I only put back on 2 lbs during my cheat days, which I was worried about since I've seen how hard it is for some people. So far, I'm on Day 9 of my second cycle and I'm down 10 lbs from the beginning of this cycle, so 22 total since Jan 1. I'm excited with this diet.
The biggest problem I've had so far is that some days I work 12 hours with a commute on top of that, so I've found it very hard to do the walking. That and it's around freezing and when I do walk, I get way to hot with a coat on. Has anyone found an alternative to walking that works for them or does anyone have a suggestion on how to keep walking during the winter months? Dobie threw out walking around the mall - however since I'm working usually 8-8 or so, it makes it hard to do.
Just looking for suggestions of what you other busy people have found works for the working out part of the diet.
Zandor
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 25 January 2007 01:28 am |
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Hi all...I really want to start this diet, but I am still skeptical.
Help!! I need honest feedback.
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scotsgirl New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2007 03:34 pm |
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| So far it has worked for me. I am starting my last day and am down 8.5 pounds. I blew one day and was up 3 pounds so took me 3 days to take that off plus 1. I know I would have hit at least 10 pounds. I am on the old plan but was so curious about the new plan that I purchased that one too. There is a huge difference the new plan is much more protein almost more like Atkins. The old plan has days where you can have pasta, hamburgers or hotdogs and sandwiches. Now keep in mind my 11 day cycle had pasta 3 times and a burger with bun twice. I had the roast beef sandwich probably 4 times. Anyway I think it really works. It is only a one time fee of something like $39.00 so you may want to try it. The old plan gives you a list of 3 items to choose from 14 times then you hit the generator and it gives you the 11 days. The new plan has two columns of food you choose from at least 7-15 from each list and then you generate. The old diet will give you singular items like on one day you may have in any order, 1) egg omelet, 2) chicken, 3) hamburger 4) lean ground turkey. The new plan on each day the 4 meals ususally consist of 2 to 4 things and you can have just one or a combination of each, that is different. Hope that helps.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 25 January 2007 04:49 pm |
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TheQuietRioter wrote: Hi all...I really want to start this diet, but I am still skeptical.
Help!! I need honest feedback.
Ouch! If what is here is not honest, are you saying we are lying? Did you get good marks for playing with others when you grew up, because you are not scoring them here.
What are you looking for? Before and after photos? The dirt of where this diet fails and we ahve struggled? Have you read our posts?
Don't come in and question our integrity and then not set the bar for your expectations. Have some courtesy, okay?
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 25 January 2007 05:50 pm |
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Dobie wrote: TheQuietRioter wrote: Hi all...I really want to start this diet, but I am still skeptical.
Help!! I need honest feedback.
Ouch! If what is here is not honest, are you saying we are lying? Did you get good marks for playing with others when you grew up, because you are not scoring them here.
What are you looking for? Before and after photos? The dirt of where this diet fails and we ahve struggled? Have you read our posts?
Don't come in and question our integrity and then not set the bar for your expectations. Have some courtesy, okay?
Are you kidding me...It is an honest question...Sorry you feel the need to get offended. But, you have taken my post the wrong way. If I thought you were lying I would come out and say it. This is the newbie to the diet forum, right? Well, I am asking about it all. Your ups...Your downs? Everything. I am not questioning YOUR integrity. I am questioning the integrity of the diet ALONE.
How is your digestive system doing on this? How is your immune system holding up? Do you have problems building muscle on this diet? Stuff like that I am curious about.
This diet has really bad reviews all over the net. Mainly because the home site does not disclose the creater of this diet, and barely has any main contact information.
This is the only website where I have actually found some real people posting about it recently. And, I do mean recently. Most of the blogs, chats...etc. Are dated only from 2005 on other forums. I had to dig thorugh 15 pages on Google before I found this one.
I am almost ready to whip out my credit card and buy it today, but like I said, I am still a little skeptical.
Thanks for your input.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 25 January 2007 08:30 pm |
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I'm sure I did get defensive...It seemed when you asked for "honest" feedback that you were implying that our current and past comments were dishonest.
I truly hope others will post their answers, but here is what I can share.
My digetion is great and my wifes is actually much better. I have read some of Dr. Mark Wyman's theories and he believes the processed "#%@&!" we eat (white sugar, flour, processed foods, etc) really kill our digestion. My wife had some issues and they are gone now with our new way of eating.
My immune system is the same, but my wifes, again, is better. Could be exercising more consistently or the fact that we weigh less...not sure.
Muscle gain? Not sure...I do resistance training, but most has been aerobic to lose the flab. I am focusing on tone and building more now, so I can let you know as I go, but I can't say yet.
Hope this helps!
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 25 January 2007 08:40 pm |
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As to the downside, I can understand your concerns. I even read a post that makes this seem unrealistic:
I am no doctor. Or nutritionist. Or personal trainer. Or anything that would have any authority on this subject, but anyway...
I hate to say it, but any diet that claims, in big, flashy letters, that you will "lose 9 pounds every 11 days" is probably rubbish.
A genuine pound of real, permanant weight loss (not "water weight" or other trickery) is roughly equivalent to 3500 calories. So 9 pounds is a 31,500 calories. To lose those 9 pounds over 11 days, you'd need a deficit of 2863 calories each day!
Now, if you're already taking in 1500-2500 calories to maintain your current weight (I'm just guessing here, but most people probably fall in that range) how can you possibly cut out 2800+ calories?
I'm very happy that you're excited and commited to losing a bit of weight and getting healthier. But I'm honestly a bit skeptical of the merits of this program.
And some have not been able to do this diet and left. But as to my wife and I, we have lost 100 lbs between us over 18 months with MANY breaks on holidays and vacations where we did yo yo.
What I learned from this diet can fit into most other diets, as Peter says.
- Weight watchers: I am sure I am under my 32 points
- Sugar busters: There is some bread on the old version, but none on the new and they really tout the evils of wheat
- ETL: Natural foods and multiple meals a day. same here
- UltraMetabolism: The foods allowed here are low on the glycemic index
- Carbohydrate Adicts: Carbs are restricted and that helps regulate your insulin... and when you do have them, they are again, low GI foods
- Zone/SouthBeach...Someone else will have to chime in here.
Peter's tutorial will give you advice along these lines too. And if you have the discipline and put the time into it, it is not that hard. (http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_diet.html)
For me? I need the simplicity. Give me rules that I understand, and I will stick to them if they don't take too much effort. That is what I get with the diet generator from WL4I.
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 25 January 2007 08:49 pm |
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That doctor is right. Processed foods do contribute to a poor digestive system because they process the live enzymes right out of it. All the nutrients and building blocks of life....GONE. Enriched foods are the worse you could possibly eat.
The refined carbs it produces and the lack of live enzymes kills the good digestive bacteria in your belly and colon...which contributes to cancers, constipation and excess mucus build up. It's sad. The American Diet is just sad.
I was a 70% raw vegan for many years, until I recently became broke due to medical bills for my son. All my weight came back when I had to eat processed foods again that I could afford and unfortunately my allergies to these foods did as well.
Now I am checking out this WL4I Diet, and I want to do it as organiclly as possible.
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scotsgirl New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2007 08:52 pm |
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| I noticed on the MSN website that "experts" (whoever they are) are saying that zigzagging (their terminology) is the best way to lose weight. It is also my understanding that this is the theory used for the diet plan. Don't know if that helps but use it for what it is worth. I am down 8.5 pounds in 10 days with a bad cheat day in which I gained 3 and had to lose back which took me 3 days. So it is working for me. But I believe that all weightloss programs will work for different people. You have to find the one you can live with and follow it. As previously stated I would like to lose 40 pounds prior to my 50th birthday in July. I will use this plan for the first 25 or so and go to weight watchers which is less restrictive for the remainder and maintenance. My opinion only. Hope that helps.
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 27 January 2007 05:39 am |
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I searched the "ZigZag" dieting term, and found a ton of stuff on it. Apparently, it's the secret that pro-body builders use.
I am going to reserch it some more, and when I find a solid conclusion, I will post some links and other info, so we can all understand this eating method a little better.
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annelies New Member
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Posted: 28 January 2007 07:35 pm |
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Hi people!
Today was day number 7 of my first cycle. I haven't lost ANY weight yet, actually it even feels like my pants are even tighter than before! I kept to the diet really strictly up until today. It was my fruit and veggie day but I went out to lunch with my brothers and had a HUGE pancake with goat cheeze and honey and walnuts. IT WAS SO GOOD! But now I feel really guilty and I feel like giving up.
I drink lots of water and I ride my bicycle every day and walk some too, I think my body is just really resistant or something. I dont know what the problem is...
I think I will just do the fruit and veggie day again tomorrow, and then finish the remaining 4 days, making the cycle actually 12 days. Do you guys think thats a good idea? Has anyone else not lost any weight?
Thanks!
Annelies
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Peter Founder, caloriesperhour.com

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Posted: 28 January 2007 09:12 pm |
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Zig Zag dieting is also recommended by one of the books I recommend, Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle. It is also discussed a great deal in other forum post, I believe in the General Discussions forum.
Peter
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Brooke1211 New Member
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Posted: 29 January 2007 03:48 pm |
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Hi everyone! I hope I can join, I just finished Day 1 and am so inspired by all your comments! I found it pretty easy although a little boring. I am 5'4 and weigh 160 lbs. Would love to get down to 125-130 lbs. but would settle for 150 lbs at this point.
Tomorrow is fruit day, I cut up all my fruit and am ready to go. Quick question, when is everyone eating their sandwich? I'm trying to figure out the best time to eat it so I don't die of hunger! 
Thanks!
Brooke
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Tonia80 New Member
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Posted: 30 January 2007 07:37 am |
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Hello All,
For the past couple of days I have been reading the fat loss 4 idiots. I tried to join today but it wouldn't let me. Anybody with any advice will be great. I really want to get started on this program.
Thank You
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 05:10 pm |
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I have one last quick question, and it pertains to the website of WL4I.
This morning, I went to the site to purchase the program, but in the purchase details it said I was only getting the handbook.
It did not say anything about the diet generator that creates the daily menus for me (which I want). Is this automatically included, or is this something I have to purchase seperate?
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victorialeigh3 New Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 06:45 pm |
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Hi all... I started yesterday and am very excited!! I only have between 5-10lbs to lose but I think this will help. Today is my fruit day and so this morning I had grapes, strawberry's, apples, blackberry's.... I cooked them in a tiny bit of water and a smidge of splenda till they were hot and soft then I dabbled on some fat free/calorie free/carb free choc syrup from walden farms and a teaspoon cool whip. OH MY GOD it was delicicious!!!! I cannot wait for my stemed pears later!!
Wish me luck, this seems to good to be true!
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 07:33 pm |
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Hi VictoriaLeigh3...
That's awesome that you started. I am trying too myself, but still am gathering questions and answers about the website for WL4I at the moment.
I am commenting because I noticed you are using Splenda. I will strongly discourage you from using artificial sweeteners, and substitute with Stevia or raw, organic honey instead.
I know Splenda claims that "It is made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar." This may be true to a point, however; Splenda does start from sugar then chlorine molecules are added to it creating a chemical substance similar to the pesticide DDT.
The human body cannot always process artificial sweeteners and they cause havoc on your insulin levels and even your immune system and thyroid function. From the research I have gathered about Splenda (Sucralose), the side effects are worse for women than men. It has also been proven in University studies, that it causes the ovaries to shrink and pregnancy complications.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 08:13 pm |
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Brooke1211 wrote: Quick question, when is everyone eating their sandwich? I'm trying to figure out the best time to eat it so I don't die of hunger! 
Thanks!
Brooke
Brooke,
Honestly, there is not a known definate time. It works better for different people. We like our sandwich at dinner because it is a fun meal (family) and we can enjoy it together and it breaks up the other meals.
The best method is pick one and fine what helps you.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 08:15 pm |
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Tonia80 wrote: For the past couple of days I have been reading the fat loss 4 idiots. I tried to join today but it wouldn't let me. Anybody with any advice will be great. I really want to get started on this program.
There are several links for help, but I don't know why you can't. Please tell me if you can, what went wrong?
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 08:18 pm |
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TheQuietRioter wrote:
This morning, I went to the site to purchase the program, but in the purchase details it said I was only getting the handbook.
It did not say anything about the diet generator that creates the daily menus for me (which I want). Is this automatically included, or is this something I have to purchase seperate?
It has changed since I joined, but my other brothers joined recently, so I will pick their brains.
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victorialeigh3 New Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 08:49 pm |
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Hi quietrioter,
I have been using Splenda since 2002 (I think?).... I have had no problems but I do know some people react to it badly (a good friend of mine can't touch it). I use it in my coffee every day - maybe a teaspoon full. But thank you for the information, I am going to investigate it further.
I figure I dont touch salt so I may as well have one vice right? LOL
Can anyone give me any ideas to spruce up fruit and sandwich day? I will be eating my sandwich for dinner and I get to have whatever kind of sandwich I want... that leaves me with the dilema of do I eat PB&J or turkey or what? And what about good fruit options?
Thanks in advance!
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 09:30 pm |
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Victorialeigh...
I like to put wheat germ on my fruits and berries. It's loaded with those good B vitamins, folic acid, proteins and Omega 3 fatty acids. I also like raw honey on my strawberries and melons.
As for sandwich's I like alfalfa spouts and avacado slices with a dash of lemon pepper.
As for salt...We do need it, but regular table salt that is iodized is not good for us. It's toxic to our system.
Try opting for Celtic Sea Salts or Kosher sea salt. The Hain brand is really good and inexpensive.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 09:32 pm |
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Dobie wrote: TheQuietRioter wrote:
This morning, I went to the site to purchase the program, but in the purchase details it said I was only getting the handbook.
It did not say anything about the diet generator that creates the daily menus for me (which I want). Is this automatically included, or is this something I have to purchase seperate?
It has changed since I joined, but my other brothers joined recently, so I will pick their brains.
My brother joined and for $39 he got both...there were not any other options so if you are signing up, you should get the generator.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 January 2007 09:37 pm |
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victorialeigh3 wrote: Can anyone give me any ideas to spruce up fruit and sandwich day? I will be eating my sandwich for dinner and I get to have whatever kind of sandwich I want... that leaves me with the dilema of do I eat PB&J or turkey or what? And what about good fruit options?
I like the fruit salad. If you need to, some have put fruit in sugar free gelatin and it gives a good psychological boost.
For sandwich, it is as you said, what works for you. Since it says a deli meat, I would stear clear of PBJ, but I add the lettuce, tomato, onion, a bit of basil, and pickles (they are so low in calories, they never hurt me.)
It is a low calorie day, so enjoy a good sized sandwich if you wish. It was the high point of my meals.
Dobie
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Posted: 31 January 2007 04:20 am |
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| thank you all so much!! I am so excited about this and will post often!!
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 31 January 2007 05:32 pm |
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Ok everyone...I bought the program last night, and I have my menu generated.
I am starting Monday the 5th, and I cannot wait. 
Thank you all for being so helpful with your information. I am absolutely thrilled to get the ball rolling with this, so thrilled I blogged about it on Myspace page.
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ashleyblue31 New Member
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Posted: 1 February 2007 09:40 pm |
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Hi Everyone...newbie here! Congrats to everyone on their weight loss success. I have a few questions about this program before I purchase it. I know that the website claims you can lose 9lbs. in 11 days but how much of that is water weight? Do you actually see that weight loss reflected in the clothes that you wear? When you look in the mirror can you see that you lost that weight. Better yet, can others see it without you saying that you lost the weight?! I am really anxious to start this program! I just don't want to have false hopes. I want to be able to know that I lost weight by my tight pants being loose on me!
Off topic: I am also in a Biggest Loser Competition at work and it is based on FAT loss and nothing else...$800 is up for grabs!
Thanks for your advice in advance !
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victorialeigh3 New Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 02:25 am |
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can anyone tell me what kind of cheese they are eating for the sliced cheese meals? I had fish and sliced cheese tonight (weird combo) and had 2 slices of muenster but it has kind of a lot of fat in it.....
thanks!!
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Size10/12in2007 New Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 02:48 am |
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Hi All-
I got really distracted .
Three weeks ago, I lost 6lbs by the 7th day of my 1st cycle and then struggled with a cold through the next week. Last week, i began my 2nd cycle with a 2lbs gain and started to cheat in the 1st day, i quickly began to gain all the weight that i had lost as i was seriously overeating.
I am disappointed that in the 4 months of trying to lose weight, i have only lost 12lbs and really just spent all this time yoyoing. I'm on day 5 and doing good, i will post my loss on day 12. I was hoping to lose 5lbs on this cycle, i'll just have to be patient and see how i do.
Congrats to everyone staying on track and if you are struggling don't give up.

Last edited on 2 February 2007 02:58 am by Size10/12in2007
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annelies New Member
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Posted: 2 February 2007 09:40 am |
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This is the morning of my 12th day, after having completed my first cycle. I weighed myself. I knew it wouldnt be a lot because my pants did not fit looser.
I have stayed exactly the same weight!!! I am so mad!
I have kept to the diet so well, didnt do the walking, but even without the walking I should have lost a little bit right? I am 5'10 (178 cm) and weigh 141 pounds (64 kg). I know that is a really good BMI and statistically I should not be trying to lose weight. I am pretty slim all over but I have some problem areas (butt, thighs) where I am fat and its just not in proportion with the rest of my body. This is genetic and might just be how I am built and there might not be anything I can do about it. But if its fat, I should have lost some of it, right?
I am trying to decide whether I should try another cycle or just starve myself again or get liposuction. Any thoughts?
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Size10/12in2007 New Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 03:19 pm |
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annelies,
I'm sorry that you didn't lose any weight. But from your stats your weight is spot on. Before you consider any form of surgery, try the gym. Its worth trying a personal trainer to help you resculpt your body.
Its possible that if you do lose weight, you would lose all over and still not be happy with the parts that you are concerned about.
Please don't starve yourself, you don't want to go down the road of an eating disorder.
Be careful.

Last edited on 2 February 2007 03:21 pm by Size10/12in2007
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 04:58 pm |
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ashleyblue31 wrote: I know that the website claims you can lose 9lbs. in 11 days but how much of that is water weight?
I am not sure. How does one know? I am sure that some of it has to be water since my weight seems to bounce up and down as I go on and off cycles. i can gain 7 lbs in a "cheat weekend" and I have never understood it, but then it comes back off. Seems like that has to be water weight.
However, my wife has gone from a near 14 to a size 2/4 (depending on what it is, I guess...you women will understand I'm sure) and I have gone from near 42" pants to 34" and from XL and some XXL to M shirts. I wear a jacket that she used to wear that is too big for her and now fits me fine. So it clearly is not all water weight.
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 04:59 pm |
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Anne...
You and I are the same height, and I wish I was a 140lbs again.
Maybe your body won't let you loose that weight because genetically that's where you should be.
Cardio about 2 hours a day should help you with the problem areas, but don't starve yourself. Your system will go into panic mode and start storing more fat no matter what you put into it.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 05:00 pm |
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Better yet, can others see it without you saying that you lost the weight?!
Oh, most definately. I had a coworker who I had not seen much over the past year say she barely recognized me from the loss of weight. I have had people commenting for over a year and even as recently as yesterday a lady came over to our house and told my wife, "You guys have really done great with your...I hate to call it a diet since it seems to be a change in life style. You both look really great".
We see her all the time so this was just a kind word and not a suprise to her.
Best of luck on your decision.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 05:09 pm |
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victorialeigh3 wrote: can anyone tell me what kind of cheese they are eating for the sliced cheese meals? I had fish and sliced cheese tonight (weird combo) and had 2 slices of muenster but it has kind of a lot of fat in it.....
Yes, I never was comfortable with the cheese since I ate probably too much of it. I LOVE cheese and would be interested too, in hearing how others successfully navigate it as a meal choice.
Anyone....Anyone....Beuhler...Beuhler...
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 2 February 2007 05:13 pm |
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Size10/12in2007 wrote: I got really distracted .
Three weeks ago, I lost 6lbs by the 7th day of my 1st cycle and then struggled with a cold through the next week. Last week, i began my 2nd cycle with a 2lbs gain and started to cheat in the 1st day, i quickly began to gain all the weight that i had lost as i was seriously overeating.
I am disappointed that in the 4 months of trying to lose weight, i have only lost 12lbs and really just spent all this time yoyoing. I'm on day 5 and doing good, i will post my loss on day 12. I was hoping to lose 5lbs on this cycle, i'll just have to be patient and see how i do.
I do that too and it helps motivate me. There is still somehting that my body does not like about the way I want to eat and when I don't follow this way of eating, weight goes on.
I still believe some of it is that your body has a memory. It wants to stay a certain weight and if you don't let it get FIRMLY used to your new loss, it will try and revert back.
I have plateued several times over my loss and am at that point again. Sometimes eating more shakes it up and I lose, but other times I find areas where I cheated (like today) and it reminds me as I get closer to my ideal weight, I have to really put it into overdrive to lose that weight.
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TheQuietRioter New Member

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