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Dobie
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Posted: 25 February 2007 11:52 pm |
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dihog7 wrote: 1. Is coffee allowed? What about a diet soda?
Yes, any drink less than 10 calories per 8 oz is allowed.
2. What if I work at a job where there is no way I can break away to eat at the 2 1/2 hour mark. It'll be more like 4 hours between the 1st and 2nd meal especially...is that OK?
Yup. 2.5 hours is a minimum and you want to leave time to get all four meals in.
3. When I see things like: eat just "chicken" or just "a Sandwich" or "fish fillet"....are you given guidelines about what is allowed as far as how the chicken needs to be prepared (I assume not fried)? but is it clear as to how it can be cooked, any condiments, etc? And for the "sandwich" does it explain what can be put on it and what type of bread?
Yes, this is all explained.
4. Can people on thryoid medicine do this diet safely?
No idea. What guidelines are people in thyroid medication given for their diet?
5. I read a review somewhere that said it was a really high calorie diet (like 3000 in one day). I know I can't eat that much. Isn't it only high calorie if you eat tons of nuts or really large portions? I have experienced the opposite. I was satisfied with my meals but feel I was eating too few calories for me (210 lbs, 6'2"). I had to add a meal in per Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle.
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JulesG
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Posted: 15 March 2007 07:02 pm |
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Hi, I am new to these boards, but have just completed my second 11 days, and I would like to ask some advise.
I discovered the diet on the internet purely by chance, but find the lack of support( I only found this board yesterday) fustrating.
At the end of my first 11 days I lost 5lb ( I have 20lb to loose in total) and felt great.
In the second phase, I felt hungry and lethargic quite a lot, and only lost 2lb. I followed the plan to the letter, so I was wondering if anyone else has felt like this, and was it perhaps I have cut my portion sizes down too much??
Also, when the list of food states' Regular cheese slices'- what exactly does that mean and what sort of weight measurement would be a correct portion? and can you eat ANY cheese
Thanks in advance
Jules
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michael28
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Posted: 16 March 2007 09:09 am |
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Hi,
I'm considering buying the program. Can anyone give me an example what a menu for a day would look like? And what makes this program work?
Thnx Michael
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Dobie
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Posted: 19 March 2007 01:22 am |
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I don't remember feeling hungry past the first time that often (before meals, like 30 minutes, but I think that is a sign of losing weight right there) and other than my "Fruit and vegitable" day which seems to be a very low calorie day.
As to feeling lethargic, if you are less than 15 pounds away from your ideal weight, I would recommend being sure you are eating your minimum number of calories that your body needs to per day. You can see it at http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.html if you click "BMR & RMR Calculator". This shows you how many calories you need just lying in bed and if you are not getting this many at least, you will feel lethargic and may have problems.
As to cheese, it depends on what you are eating at the same time. You need to eat enough to feel satisfied and you want to be sure you are getting enough calories to keep from feeling lethargic.
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bbkitty
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Posted: 20 March 2007 03:27 pm |
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Hi everyone! About to start this diet on Monday and had a (probably stupid) question: it says on the printout: "you may eat any combination of the foods that you wish".
Does that mean when Meal #1 is: Turkey slices, Bacon and Kiwi and Meal #2 is: Scrambled Eggs and Chicken.....Can I eat for Meal #1: Scrambled eggs, Bacon and Kiwi? And for Meal #2: Chicken and Turkey?
Do you know what I mean? Is it the combination of food in a MEAL that is important or eating ALL those foods on that particular day? THANKS!!!
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bbkitty
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Posted: 20 March 2007 03:30 pm |
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michael,
i just got the plan yesterday...Here's my Day #1:
Meal #1: Turkey slices, bacon strips, kiwi
Meal #2: Scrambled eggs, chicken
Meal #3: Cashews, cheese slices, fresh grapefruit
Meal #4: Hard boiled eggs, roast beef slices, fresh apples
The hard part will be Day #3 when it's only fruit, all day and Day #8 when its only vegetable all day (I am dreading that one).
Since I am just starting I don't know why it works (except I'm sure it's just fooling your body) and if it will work for me. Seems to work for plenty of other people.
Good luck!
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Nir
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Posted: 20 March 2007 07:17 pm |
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I think this has been covered here before:
1) you can have your 4 meals in any order (e.g. meal #2, then meal #4, then meal #1 and finally meal #3)
2) when the meal mentions several food options: food 1, food 2, food 3: your meal can be just food 1, or just food 2, or a combination of both. It is your choice how many of the foodstuffs to include in that particular meal. NOTE: these are the foods listed for the specific meal. [also: I understand this is a feature of the 'new version' - those who started about a year ago are following the 'old version' which didn't have this feature]
ps I am not following this diet, but I have read this forum from time to time.
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Dobie
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Posted: 20 March 2007 08:05 pm |
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I do not think you should mix and match foods unless you have experimented and are ready to face the possible change in weight loss. I would not swap, personally.
However, I live by the rules. I don’t think this swap will cause you problems.
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bbkitty
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Posted: 20 March 2007 09:08 pm |
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| no, no, i understand, i wasnt' trying to cheat already, i just didn't understand the way they worded it (and to me scrambled eggs and chicken is just weird). i'll be exact. but i wish they gave you a choice of the new and the old. and maybe you just have to get good at it, because when you see the recipes people share it doesn't make any sense unless it's just sticking to the main list of foods, but i don't see how that can work....thanks for the replies!
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barbienut75
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Posted: 30 March 2007 05:33 am |
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I am not new to WL4I, I did it 2 years ago and lost 29lbs in 5 weeks, can't remember why I went off but I did. I have gained back all of it plus 5 lbs. That is what happens when you go back to eating the way "you did"
So here I am finally motivated enough to begin again. I am on day 4, and I would weigh probably already, except my scale is broken.. nephew was bouncing on it....anyway
I love to here progress reports, How long have you been following the plan, and how much have you lost?
I need to loose about 150, but I will be happy with 50..lol
I attribute, my weightloss last time to a wonderful forum I was on, but someone hacked it, and it is no longer available, sooo I hope this one can be just as great.
My name is Jenn, and I am 32, and live in Kentucky and am a college student.
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barbienut75
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Posted: 30 March 2007 05:37 am |
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| Turkey, bacon, and Kiwi? I am using the old version that I printed out ages ago, two years ago actually, are there new food options? Now I will HAVE to buy it again.
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keekee28
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Posted: 30 March 2007 09:18 am |
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Hi my nake is Kindra I am 28 and live in Canada.
I have been doing WL4I for 9days know and have lost about 6 pounds.
I am very optimistic though as a friend of mine has recently lost 70 pounds in 3mths on WL4I.
The only day that I was hungry was yesterday on the all veggie day so I grabbed a banana and that was enough.
One thing I am not to sure about is the walking because the PDF download states that you don't need to be walking until you are finished losing the amount of weight you desire. Which is good for me as I have been off work for almost 1 year due to a back injury and unable to walk a long distance. Any input on this area would be great.
Good Luck!!
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bbkitty
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Posted: 30 March 2007 03:10 pm |
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Well I've done everything to the letter this week EXCEPT, I didn't eat all four meals. Not on purpose, but like kiwis were my Meal #2 on Monday and I just wasn't hungry. And last nite my Meal #4 dinner was supposed to be turkey meat and green beans and I didn't have time to eat, so I didn't. Is this going to hurt me? I'm going to weigh myself later this morning. I gotta say, I'm tripping on the cashews and cheese meal...that's a heck of alotta fat to be eating...oh well, if it works for all these other people? I didn't cardio this week either just to see, but I did lift my weights. I wish I could see the OLD version of this diet...am really dreading Monday, my all veggie day....especially for breakfast.
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Dobie
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Posted: 30 March 2007 05:22 pm |
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I feel like the old man here. I am in Dallas, TX and I am 37. I have gone from 260 to 205 since Sept of 2005. I go on the diet and back off depending on life, holidays, travel , etc.
I am on now because my ultimate weight is to stop around 185 and never go above 200 again. I work out every day that I can because I believe it helps quite a lot.
Kindra, I can't tell you to walk because I don't know what your back is like. But if you want to lose quicker, every Dr. out there and every diet says to walk. It really is good for us all, so I suggest you do what you can. Even the Pedometer stuff that is so popular to walk 10000 steps a day. Even if you dont' do make it, it is a great goal!
Hope you guys stay around and best of luck!
Dobie.
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Dobie
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Posted: 30 March 2007 05:25 pm |
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barbienut75 wrote: Turkey, bacon, and Kiwi? I am using the old version that I printed out ages ago, two years ago actually, are there new food options? Now I will HAVE to buy it again.
yes, they updated it and you have over 30 foods to choose from, but you will lose some of your favorites. Then each meal gives 2 or 3 foods for you to choose from.
It is another $39 to pony up for the new plan.
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Dobie
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Posted: 30 March 2007 05:28 pm |
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bbkitty wrote: Well I've done everything to the letter this week EXCEPT, I didn't eat all four meals. Is this going to hurt me?
It can if you don't get the base calories you need each day. Eating 4 meals is a great start but building to 5 and 6 will speed your metabolism even more if you are eating good foods and smaller amounts.
I'm tripping on the cashews and cheese meal. Don't worry. You are eating healthy foods. Just don't over eat on that meal. 1/4 cup or 28g of nuts are 180 calories or so and an ounce of cheese is 130 or so. Try and not go over 500 calories for this meal.
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barbienut75
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Posted: 30 March 2007 07:20 pm |
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Isn't the 39$ a one time fee though, last time it was 27$ 3 months, but they never deactivated my account until a few months ago, when I am assuming they updated the diet.
Groovy, I paid, and got a new meal plan, and am totaly excited. I am going to finish this 11 days however, becasue I already bought the food.
I was really excited today becasue I did not get hungry until 11...and reduced my omelette two 2 eggs instead of 3, and could not eat my fruit, I ate a grape, just to say I did, but because of the water, I feel full, I drink 2 cups before and 2 cups after each meal. the 2 cups after is what makes me feel full.
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bbkitty
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Posted: 30 March 2007 07:43 pm |
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| I'm so happy! I lost 3 1/2 pounds! (this is day 5) next week i'll start exercising with it I think (except for the veggie day..i don't think i'll have enough energy to stand up frankly) and maybe that will speed things up. I know you have to have some protein in you to lift weights ideally. i sure am glad though, i've been dieting and exercising my butt off for the last 2 years, i thought for sure i wouldn't have lost. YEEHAW!
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keekee28
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Posted: 30 March 2007 08:00 pm |
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Thanks for the input. I have been walking but I guess at my own pace. I have 3 children so right there they keep me going.
I am not trying to make any excuses but with my back one day I could be good and the next I could be flat on my back all day.
I think myself as a goal need to set for myself a little more walking each and everyday.
Thanks again for input
Kindra
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barbienut75
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Posted: 30 March 2007 08:47 pm |
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| Groovy huh, I remember last time I did the diet I would step on the scale and want to roll around on the floor in giddy laughter. Once steppe don the scale and had lost 7lbs in 5 days, DH thought I would go into giddy histerics...lol
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yohkos
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Posted: 30 March 2007 09:13 pm |
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Hi,
I tried this diet a long time ago and could not stick with it.  For that matter, I have never been able to stick with any diet.
I will start tomorrow and its good to know that you two are starting again. Maybe we could support each other
Last edited on 30 March 2007 09:14 pm by yohkos
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barbienut75
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Posted: 1 April 2007 03:39 am |
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Yes don't push yourself, start with 10 minutes walk down to the end of the street. Or when you go to the store, park farth away from the door. Every little bit helps.
This week, I am not walking, simply because I can't do it yet....lol I am starting to feel "friskey" so by next weekend I will want to give it a go.
I am on my veggie day, and I am almost done. I made a soup, it was lovely!
I will be so glad though tomorrow to have some chicken!
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barbienut75
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Posted: 1 April 2007 03:41 am |
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| If you can make it for 3 days you will do great. The first 3 days is always the hardest for me. Except this time, I must just be in the "mode" to do it, cuz I am not having trouble. And I am starting to feel better.
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RubyTearDrop
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Posted: 2 April 2007 08:35 am |
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| I have the Fat Loss for Idiots diet (I think it's the old version) but I have not tried it yet. Can it work even if I do not have much weight to lose? I am 21 years old, female, 5'1" and I weigh 115 pounds. I would like to lose 15 pounds, but I am afraid that this diet might cause me to gain weight, as I have a history of restricting calories and overexercising. Last year I starved myself down to 90 pounds and then my school forced me to gain before they would let me study abroad. Now it seems my metabolism has been shot to h.ell. Has anyone managed to lose weight on this diet even if they were not overweight to begin with? I don't want to starve myself again. Do you count calories? How much do you exercise? I would love to hear what has worked for people and what hasn't. Thanks! Last edited on 2 April 2007 08:36 am by RubyTearDrop
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Nir
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Posted: 2 April 2007 09:11 am |
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Your unadjusted RMR should be 1224 calories. For best fat loss results (on this, or any diet) you must ensure you do not go below this figure. This is a good calorie target to aim for - unless you are currently also exercising, in which case you should allow for the exercise by eating more calories.
I know of a couple of people who have counted their calories whilst following this diet - but not everyone does.
Given your history it is likely that you've lost some muscle mass. You should try to get some regular resistance training to maintain and hopefully increase / restore any muscle you may have lost. This will help with your metabolism.
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Nir
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Posted: 2 April 2007 09:17 am |
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I also have considerable muscle because I weight train in addition to cardio.
Referring back to your post from last year, I would have been surprised at that (the ability to retain much muscle whist restricting calories to 700). Any idea what your body fat % currently is?
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bbkitty
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Posted: 2 April 2007 05:33 pm |
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I'm on Day 8, all veggies all day. I was dreading it all weekend because being it's the start of back to work, and no protein for breakfast...I thought I was going to faint by 5 pm. It's 9:30 am here and I ate a salad for breakfast and am just chugging water...I lost 4 pounds in 5 days and hopefully by this Friday when I weigh again it will be more. It's a weird diet, but after reading everyone's posts and stepping on the scale, I believe in it! I have 15 pounds to go, so we'll see. Last week I did not do any cardio, just weight training 3 days. So we'll see how adding that in the mix works. Good luck and welcome to everyone that's just starting and just starting over!
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RubyTearDrop
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Posted: 2 April 2007 08:05 pm |
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Thanks for replying, Nir! I don't know my body fat % but I know I have more muscle than I did last year, because I look smaller now at 115 than I did a year ago at 115. I probably did lose a fair amount of muscle while I was on my starvation diet; I think it just looked like I had more muscle in my arms because there was almost no fat covering them up.
I seem to plateau really fast when trying to lose weight, which is part of the reason I kept dropping my calorie intake and increasing my exercise. Clearly, that was a mistake. Cycling cals/carbs has worked for me in the past, so maybe this diet could work for me if I keep to around 1200-1300 cals a day? The lack of structure in this diet worries me. For one of my meals, it says "sandwich." Well, that could be a 200-calorie sandwich or an 800-calorie one. Guess I'll just have to use my best judgment. Has anyone done this diet successfully with just 15-20 pounds to lose?
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Nirvana
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Posted: 6 April 2007 05:55 pm |
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is this menu part of the new version of the diet?
the old one is just one type of food at the time
should I buy the new one?
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Nirvana
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Posted: 6 April 2007 05:57 pm |
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This is an example of the old menus, I havent buy the new... but I just saw an example and looks like more food choices ...
DAY #1
Meal #1: Sandwich (any type)
Meal #2: Tuna Salad
Meal #3: Pastrami Sandwich
Meal #4: Lean Ground Turkey
DAY #2
Meal #1: Banana Milk Shake
Meal #2: Mixed Nuts
Meal #3: Delicious Egg Omelette
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #3
Meal #1: Fruit Salad
Meal #2: Pastrami Sandwich
Meal #3: Delicious Egg Omelette
Meal #4: Chicken
What is the real difference between the old and the new ?
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Dobie
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Posted: 7 April 2007 01:05 am |
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| Yes, more foods, one fruit/sandwich day and one veggie only day, and more choices.
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LittleRedRN
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Posted: 7 April 2007 08:02 pm |
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Jules,
Don't feel alone. I'm new here too. I plan to start my first cycle Monday after the Easter holiday. I look for this site to be a great support. Plus I've found a friend here already.
Mary
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LittleRedRN
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Posted: 7 April 2007 11:44 pm |
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| I'm new to this diet, but I won't give up my coffee either. I plan to cut back from 2 cups a day to only one. I already use splenda, and I'm going to keep my cream to a the minimum I can stand. Yes, the cream may cause you to slow down and wt loss, but I'm sure if everything else is followed then wt loss will occur. I remember also from past diets there are a multitude of diet 'sins' that are forgiven if you drink your water.
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bbkitty
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Posted: 9 April 2007 02:45 pm |
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i don't know since I've never seen the old one....you don't have to eat scrambled eggs and chicken at the same time if you don't want to, you could just eat scrambled eggs (which is what I am doing if the foods don't really go together). sorry i can't compare old vs new...if the old one works, stay with it i guess.
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Zara
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Posted: 9 April 2007 03:01 pm |
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Nirvana,
The old plan gave you only one food choice per meal with the same diet rules-they asked you 14 questions and then generated a menu for 11 days. The new plan offers more variety per meal, giving you the option of eating all that is listed or you can eat one food from that meal. The choice is yours to make. The new plan also gives you up to 30 choices of foods and then it calculates the mensus the same way.
If you liked gound turkey (or turkey mince) it isn't on the new plan. Nor are hamburgers, ham with pineapple, hot dogs, for example. The new plan gives you different food options-with some extra stuff. For example different kinds of fish, shrimp and some extra fruit and veggie options. The good thing about the new plan is you have access to the site for as long as you want, verses only 3 months before.
If you want more variety and maybe some different food choices the new plan will offer you that. The old plan was just as good, and for some, has foods that they enjoyed that might be preferrable to what is offered now. I hope this has helped  .
Blessings,
Zara
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Zara
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Posted: 9 April 2007 03:13 pm |
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When I tried this diet some two years ago, I continued to drink my coffee with milk and some kind of sweetner. I used splenda and had the occasional latte as well-but not daily, maybe once a week or so. I no longer use splenda as it gives me headaches and am useing fructiose instead-not much, just enough to make it sweet. I had no problem and still lost weight.
Now if you're drinking loads of coffee with milk in it, it could be a potential problem. It might be best to cut down your coffee consumption simply because of the amount of milk and sugar/sweetneer you are useing. If you drink a latte or a cappachino daily then obvious problems will occur. If it is a couple of coffees with milk then don't worry too much. I had 2 coffees a day and it did not impeed my progress.
Good Luck!
Blessings,
Zara
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shannonanigans
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Posted: 25 April 2007 06:56 pm |
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Hello all, I have just purchased the FT4I plan and I'm quite taken aback by the sodium in the meal choices...
It seems like deli meats are a huge factor in this diet, and they're full of triglycerides and sodium... doesn't sodium make you retain water? How does one lose weight when they're retaining so much...?
Are the fruit/vegetable days enough to outweigh the sodium?
Thanks!
-Shannon
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Nir
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Posted: 25 April 2007 07:42 pm |
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| You have to drink a lot of water on this plan - it is one of the rules.
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shannonanigans
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Posted: 25 April 2007 08:43 pm |
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I understand that much, and thank you for your reply but, I already drink 64oz of water a day, and I eat 1/4 of the amount of sodium I'm asked to eat on this diet, is 64oz enough to flush out that much sodium?
The first day of the plan I am asked to eat:
Meal 1
Eggs
Milk
Apples
Meal 2
Cheese slices
Turkey slices
Meal 3
Ham slices
Roast beef slices
Meal 4
Cashews
Bacon Strips
Oranges
Assuming there is no salt added to my eggs or cashews, I'm dealing with the sodium from cheese, ham, turkey, roast beef, and bacon.
There is 1100 MG of sodium in packaged turkey, 1800 MG in ham, 800 in Roast beef, 800 in bacon, and 700 in Cheese ... assuming one serving of each (and I'd probably eat more than that), thats close to 5200 MG of sodium, in one day... isn't the RDA of sodium about 2200?
I don't understand how drinking 64oz of water can outweigh that... maybe i'm looking at it incorrectly?
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Nir
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Posted: 25 April 2007 10:58 pm |
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I think you do have a valid point. Yes, you could drink even more water but regardless, sodium can elevate blood pressure [How Salt Affects Your Weight]
One point to remember that for each meal you can have some or all of the choices, so you could 'engineer' lower-sodium choices for each meal:
for example meal #4 could be:
just oranges
just cashews
just bacon
orange & cashew
orange & bacon
cashew & bacon
orange & cashew & bacon
Finally, I observe that some people arrive at this plan after consuming a lot of junk food, and for them the foods on this plan represent a healthier diet than what they were previously used to, whilst others, who were already better-informed about healthy eating come to this diet and observe that it is less healthy than what they're used to [some common observations are: this diet encourages you to eat until satisfied and for some people this translates into eating less than their RMR; fruits and vegetables are not featured every day and fibre content is on the low side; a rather high proportion of calories come from animal protein; nitrites in processed meat etc.]
If you think you know better than this plan, you probably do. If you are interested, here is a link to Pat's online diary [ http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum31/1335-19.html ]: she is currently following FL4I with her own modifications, to make it healthier. (ps it is slightly different as you are on the new plan and she is on the old plan)
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shannonanigans
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Posted: 25 April 2007 11:26 pm |
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Thank you for your reply!
That is a valid point, that I don't have to eat it all, I wonder though, the people that do eat everything they're asked, if they actually lose anything?
I'll give her diary a look, thanks again!
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Yuca
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Posted: 5 May 2007 01:59 am |
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Hi,
I am really tempted by the 11 day plan of the Idiot proof diet (I will be on a beach in 12 days...) but reading about it on the internet, it seems to be a version of the Atkins diet.
The Atkins diet was a complete disaster for me 3 years ago. I had 4 to 6 kilos to lose. I lost 1 the first 2 weeks, carried on another 2 weeks with no result, did the temporary diet recommended to unblock things, went back on normal Atkins for another month. Total loss 1 kg.
I gave in and came back on a normal diet: I put on 10 kilos in 3 months. And without eating much.
I lost 14 kilos with Weighwatchers and exercise afterwards, but I have put on 4 that I would like to get rid off now, hence the temptation to do the Idiot proof diet.
As it seems to be also based on a low carb/high protein, shall I expect the same catastrophic results as with the atkins diet?
Many thanks in advance ;-)
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Nir
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Posted: 5 May 2007 04:17 pm |
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If memory serves, the 'temporary diet' at the back of the Atkins book is a low-carb diet that is also calorie-restricted to 1000 calories.
Let me ask you: if you had to guess whether, when you were doing Atkins, you failed because you had too many calories or because you had too few calories, what would you say?
This website has an RMR Calculator that can help you figure out your calorie needs. It is best to figure out your 'maintenance' needs for your activity level and then reduce that amount by 15-20% and you'll lose fat best on that amount.
It is enouraging that you did manage to lose on Weight Watchers, because there is some sort of counting on that diet.
Yes, FL4I has some lower-carb days (not every day) but they more relevant thing about it is that, as you don't count your calories whilst you follow the 11 days, you may have some very low calorie days without realising it - and this may cause you problems if this is what hampered your progress during Atkins.
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Dobie
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Posted: 7 May 2007 04:23 pm |
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Yuca wrote: As it seems to be also based on a low carb/high protein, shall I expect the same catastrophic results as with the atkins diet?
No, this is not a low carb diet. What Nir said is good advice, but if you take care how you eat, you can be successful on this diet!
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btowns911
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Posted: 31 May 2007 12:14 am |
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is there any where you can get this for free, or a trial membership?
does it implement indian food?
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JulesG
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Posted: 31 May 2007 04:36 pm |
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No, there are no free trials.
As for Indian food, I would not have thought so for the first few months, then as you start to adapt the plan to yourself, you may be able to but without the rice, poppadoms, chutneys etc. ( as they promote quite plain but FRESH food- nothing from jars or tins apart from spice rubs/ salts)
I eat Indian food on this plan, but I am maintaining and only eat, for example, baked chicken tikka with the salad- no rice etc.
Hope this helps
Jules
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rosie
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Posted: 1 June 2007 12:04 pm |
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Hi there
Im about to start FLFI and wanted to ask what are "sausage links" in the US? Are they just normal sausages or mini sauages or something else??
May be a stupid question but Im just not sure!
Thanks very much
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Frankie
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Posted: 1 June 2007 03:37 pm |
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Hi,
Sausage links are tubular, and the way they're made is that each sausage is kind of pinched at the ends, but they're in a big chain before they're cut. As opposed to sausage patties, which are flat and round.
Actually, I don't think it matters what the sausage is shaped like, so much as what it's made of, which would be mostly meat and fat (I'd avoid sausages with a lot of bread-y fillers).
As far as I know, the sausages you'll find in the UK are perfectly acceptable for the diet.
Frankie
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rosie
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Posted: 1 June 2007 04:42 pm |
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thats great - just what i needed to know!
thanks so much for taking the time to reply
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kimi
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Posted: 4 June 2007 01:37 am |
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Hello all, I'm just about to get started and would like to ask a couple questions:
1. Can i take vitamin pills and Omega3 tablets during the 11days? The diet rotations don't seem to provide enough vitamins and minerals to the body though......
2. Why the fish choices only....Halibut type? What's wrong with other types of fish?
3. The rules mention coffee and iced tea. I supposed "hot" tea like green tea and chinese tea are ok as long as no sugar in it?
4. Cheat days--To eat normally means i can have beer/wine?
5. Would there be any difference if i reduce the cheat days to 2 or 1 day?
I've about 50 lbs to lose though.......hope it won't take too long!!
Kimi
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