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point4m New Member

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Posted: 5 March 2009 01:48 am |
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I purchased the 11 day diet plan and have been on it for around 4 cycles. I have lost approximately 6 lbs. Not much compared to what others have been reporting. I'm getting a bit tired of plain fish and plain chicken. The flavor or zing just isn't there. I have never been a huge sauce or condiment person, but the end result for this food is so bland! How do you ad flavor without adding calories? Not only that, why is it that I have lost so little when I have cut out all condiments and stayed strict to the diet as it is lined out?
I was also wondering if there was any way to purchase the second bonus portion of the plan. I didn't want to buy it right off the bat because I wasn't sure it was going to work... Is it possible to purchase it separately?
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 5 March 2009 02:39 am |
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Point - Welcome. You cannot purchase Beyond Calories separately, unfortunately. You may want to come to the general discussion thread, as more people read that thread and can help answer your questions. Without knowing what you did or didn't do for sure, it is hard to say why you have only lost the 6 lbs. It can be a number of things. Maybe if you post in general discussion and answer the following questions, we can help you...
Did you only ate until satisfied, not any more than that? Did you space your meals apart between 2.5 - 4 hours (roughly)? Did you refrain from any eating in between meals? Did you drink ALL 80 oz. of water each day? How much do you have to lose? Are you doing anything exercise-wise, like walking? Are you taking any medications? Let us know anything else you may think will be helpful to us.
We can help you make your meals more creative by giving you ideas that we have found work with the diet and are allowed as condiments. I am impressed that you made it 4 cycles eating your food so bland and not having much success. That shows you are motivated, for sure! I would like to see you have success on this diet, so if you give us an idea of what you have been doing, maybe we can figure it out. There have been a few people lately that have had some similar trouble, but there are different reasons that could be hindering your losses. Good luck!
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sunshine Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 March 2009 02:42 am |
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Welcome Point! I like cajun blackening spice, rosemary herb blends(great on chicken), etc. They say you can use seasoned salts like lemonpepper which is great on fish. I don't want the salt so I just choose spice and herb blends. You can also marinate your chicken in marinades. Salsa is allowed so that means you can add some onion, peppers and tomatoes...or just salsa!
I've seen the BC on ebay or perhaps someone here can share.
How much do you need to lose? I was a slow loser but I have lost all I need...just alot slower than most...but other plans were not fast for me either. The slower you lose...the better the chances of keeping it off too!
S S
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uhoh New Member
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Posted: 5 March 2009 04:50 am |
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Kiwi & Webfairy: Maybe it's just that I like being in control of things and if something is telling me what to eat I get frustrated? I'm thinking that's what it is. However, after some thought I realized it might be what some people are looking for. So all it does is tell you what to eat and not how much? Do you eat 'till your full? Are there other rules? My mom has asked about diets and I think she'd love this one. I'll point it her way.
Kiwi: I'm glad to see that. Really, I am. I love seeing people being able to succeed in their goals. [man I sound like a teacher] haha. :]
Webfairy: Yeah it's pretty cheeky, huh? haha. So you get to choose what to eat? Well glad to see a vegetarian won't have to worry about a full bacon meal. What exactly is this calorie shifting? Like high and low calorie days?
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 5 March 2009 05:10 am |
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Uhoh - You eat until you are SATISFIED, not full. This concept helps us to go into the future, post FL4I, and know when enough is enough. That is one of the great things about this diet. You have to eat all 4 meals, spaced apart 2.5 - 4 hours, and drink 80 oz. of water. These are all the most important parts. You have a list of condiments you can use to "spice up" your meals. The water helps to keep you satisfied between meals, also. You are on an 11 day cycle and get 3 cheat days after to eat whatever you like, before starting back on another cycle. You continue this until you reach the desired weight loss. This is called the DG (diet generator). There is also a vegetarian version.
If you want more control over your food, you can choose the Beyond Calories which is offered in addition to this diet from the FL4I website. That one lets you eat 6 meals, smaller sizes as you eat more often, and gives you the groups of food (more options) you can choose from, and you make up your own meals, as opposed to the generator telling you what to eat each day.
You don't count calories... it is a calorie shifting diet, not a low carb diet. Some of the days are higher carbs, some normal and some lower carbs.
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AshIdiot Distinguished Member

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Posted: 17 April 2009 07:27 pm |
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| I'm interested in this diet but I'm a very picky eater. Does it let you select your foods when you first sign up or are you stuck with what you get, and realize you just wasted a huge amount of money? I figured I better ask, I don't have good luck with this stuff.
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 17 April 2009 07:55 pm |
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Hello Ash! You don't see the food choices until after you sign up but you get to pick your foods from the list, (7-15 from each of 2 columns) and then generate the 11 day menu of 4 meals per day.
1st Column: Delicious Shrimp, Sandwich (any deli-meat style), Tuna Salad Plate, Broiled Sea Bass, Roast Beef Slices, Macadamia Nuts, Hard Boiled Eggs, Broiled Orange Roughy, Pastrami Slices, Ham Slices, Cashews, Scrambled Eggs, Broiled Halibut, Walnuts, Peanuts, Turkey Slices, Cottage Cheese, Broiled Flounder, Milk, Regular Cheese Slices, Bacon Strips, Sausage Links, Chicken
2nd Column: Yogurt Dessert, Fruit Salad Dessert, Garden Salad w/ Dressing, Fresh Strawberries, Green & Red Vegetables, Orange-Pineapple Smoothie, Fresh Kiwi Fruit, Mixed Vegetables, Fresh Plums, Fresh Peaches, Bowl of Oatmeal, Baked Beans, Pinto Beans, Green Beans, Fresh Grapes, Fresh Apricots, Fresh Grapefruit, Green Vegetables, Fresh Apples, Prunes, Fresh Oranges, Banana Milk Shake, Fresh Pears
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shiftyninja New Member
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Posted: 27 April 2009 12:44 am |
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Hi everybody, I've been sneaking a peak to the forums for the last week before making the plan to start this and I'm finally about there. Thought I've got a number of questions that I just am confused about...could anybody help? I'm looking to start this diet and my girlfriend will be joining me (though she is just as confused, maybe even more).
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If this is a calorie shifting diet, than how come I can eat all the food I want (until I'm "satisfied" at one sitting)?
My girlfriend and I are planning to do this together, though our food choices are different. What is a good way for us to do this diet together? Can we take the Meals from her menu and replace it with mine or vice-versa?
I'd like to stick with this, though I don't know how to make sense of the menu at times:
Day 1
Meal 1 -
Peanuts
Tuna Salad Plate
Fresh Grapes
Meal 2 -
Scrambled Eggs
Roast Beef Slices
Meal 3 -
Regular Cheese Slices
Bacon Strips
Meal 4 -
Chicken
Pastrami Slices
It seems like this day has two meals for breakfast (scrambled eggs/bacon) how does this work? Should I just eat how the menu follows or is there any way that I can substitute something else instead? I mean can I take another "back strip" type item to use, or could I have another "scrambled eggs" item?
I'm sure I'm making this more difficult than it needs to be...but I could really use the help.
Thanks a ton!
-Jason
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 27 April 2009 01:39 am |
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| Hi Jason. In a nutshell... you cannot switch meals with your GF's menu. If you two can agree on the same foods, then you could both share the same menu, otherwise she will have to eat her meals and you will eat yours from your own menus. You can eat the meals in any order so, based on the menu you shared, I would choose the scrambled eggs and meat for breakfast. If you don't want the meat, then you could just eat the scrambled eggs or visa versa. But you must stick to your menu and eat either one or all of the food choices listed on that meal. You eat ONLY until satisfied. You don't eat anything in between meals more than 4 hours between meals. Drinking 80 oz of water is very important. That will also help keep you full in between meals and get rid of the fat faster. If you want to see the best results, then do not substitute. Once you have done a cycle or two, you can get a feel for it more, and if you choose to sub then, you can see if it makes a big difference in your losses. You may want to check out the recipe section or ask us on the general discussion thread if you want some ideas for your meals. I think one of the things that makes this diet work is making the meals something you can enjoy. Sometimes you get some very strange combos, but you'de be surprised what you can do with some of the combos, also. We get pretty creative. So please introduce yourself in general discussion where other people can share ideas with you. Feel free to ask any other questions you still have. The diet is fanatastic!
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shiftyninja New Member
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Posted: 27 April 2009 05:07 pm |
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Thanks Webfairy. I'll respond in the General Discussion since it seems to be hit a lot more.
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zeranity New Member
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Posted: 30 April 2009 02:42 am |
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Hello Everyone,
I was trying to find information about missing a meal. I only was able to eat 3 meals today instead of the 4 meals.
Is there any information regarding this? Anyone had any issues when not eating all 4 meals?
Thanks! 
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 03:38 am |
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Hi Zeranity and welcome! I know I've read on here that occasionally someone will miss a meal - you know, life happens. The plan is laid out with 4 meals a day because that's what works best. If you slip up one day, I wouldn't stress over it. Just start up your next day tomorrow and try to get 4 meals in, with at least 2.5 to 3 hours time in between. It helps if you're on the run a lot to bring small bags of nuts or whatever you have on a meal that's portable enough to bring with you.
Be sure to check in at the General Discussion thread as it's the most active - everyone checks there and lots of folks are available to answer your questions. Another good thread to read is the Diet Tip thread - it's very helpful. And don't be afraid to ask!
Annie
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frauilsa New Member
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Posted: 20 August 2009 07:00 pm |
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Hello!
I had done WL4I (now called FL4I) a few years back and lost a lot of weight very quickly. The weight has now crept back so it's time for me to start again. I purchased the membership and had a couple of questions...
- What happened to the menu?! My pasta, burgers and ham w/ pineapple are gone!
- Is it possible to use some of the proteins/carbs listed on the 10 weight loss rules list without affecting weight loss on a generated 11 day menu?
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frauilsa New Member
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Posted: 20 August 2009 07:07 pm |
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...as an update, this is a sample of what is on the more casual 10 rules of weight loss protein list that is not on the generated 11 day list -
Lean Turkey
Lean Ham
Lean Beef
Lean Roast Beef
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 20 August 2009 08:04 pm |
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frailusa - Hello and welcome back. Here is a really good link for Tips and Guidelines thread, that may help answer some of your questions: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/8669.html
As far as the menu change, I never had the old menu but have heard about it. The diet menu was revamped and works really well. We normally recommend sticking to what is on the allowed list, for the best results. But there are some subs that are fine and I think they are covered in that tips thread. Also if you have any more questions, if you post in the general discussion thread, more people read that and participate in answering questions. So you can get some other opinions and ideas. Let us know if we can help more. Good luck to you!
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frauilsa New Member
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Posted: 20 August 2009 10:12 pm |
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Thanks webfairy!
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nopainogain New Member
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Posted: 25 September 2009 12:56 pm |
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| Hello, I've a question. I'm on my 9th day of the first cycle. And sometimes, especially at nights I eat extra fruit but not too much of course... Is it a problem? I thought it might be, since it can interrupt the shifting process. Thanks so much
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dreamer365 New Member

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Posted: 26 September 2009 10:09 pm |
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| Hi everyone. I'm on the 5th day of my first cycle (vegetarian plan) and lovin this diet. Just wondering, I have eggs twice today and I was wondering if I could substitute peanut butter for eggs one of the meals. Do you think it would affect my weight loss? Thanks.
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 26 September 2009 10:33 pm |
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Hi dreamer! Welcome! I don't think peanut butter is a good choice, due to it's high fat content. I am not really familiar with the vegetarian version of this diet, though, so maybe SlimNeel or someone else might have a suggestion. Do you know that even low fat peanut butter isn't necessarily a good choice, because they replace the fat with corn syrup which is pure carbs. That is not good for weight loss, obviously, and won't fill you up as much, so you will eat more. Sometimes low fat and non fat are worse choices in certain foods. Next time, when you generate your menu, only pick one form of eggs (instead of hard boiled AND scrambled) and you won't get it twice in the same day. That should help. If you have any other questions, please ask. And let us know how you are doing. There really aren't many who have done the vegetarian menu and posted, so you could give some insight to that, if you like. 
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dreamer365 New Member

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Posted: 27 September 2009 10:03 pm |
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| Thanks for the advice, webfairy! Haha I didn't even think of that when I chose both scrambled and hard boiled. Well this is day 6 for me and I've lost about 2 and half pounds, I know most of it is probably water weight but it is still a freakin miracle for me. Another question though, this diet is incredibly high protein, like at least 75% of the diet is protein. I'm just wondering how healthy this is. It doesn't seem like the body would do very good with so much. I read it could be rough on the kidneys and such. Last edited on 27 September 2009 10:03 pm by dreamer365
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 27 September 2009 11:51 pm |
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Dreamer - Actually the new "idea" is that a higher protein diet sustains you longer than fats and carbs. I know higher protein keeps me satiated longer. I try to choose high protein foods that are better for my body like fish and beans. I still do eggs, cheese, etc. but try to do them moderately, due to cholesterol concerns. But I haven't really seen much evidence that the eggs and cheese are hurting me. I eat eggs and cheese quite often and my cholesterol has dropped in the last few months. I think it is dependant on our particular bodies, personally.
It's true that long term high protein can be hard on the kidneys and liver. Anybody who has kidney or liver probelms DEFINITELY needs to consult with their doc before dieting, period! This should not be not long term, although the change in eating habits should be. This diet gets you off the sweets and processed, refined foods (or at least not nearly as much as before for most people), introduces more water into most of our diets, which ALWAYS helps with keeping the fat off, and makes us really consider what we put into our bodies. Also, I was horrible about snacking in between meals before doing this diet. I never realized how that affected weight gain. So you learn many valuable lessons on this diet. Just think how bad all that fat is for us when we are overweight. That is definitely very unhealthy! This diet has helped so many to get to a healthy weight and change our way of eating/living. Anything in excess is bad (in my opinion). We need to take meds sometimes for certain conditions, but hopefully they are temporary and we find ways to find healthy alternatives in the long run. It's the same with dieting. We should not diet long term, but we can do it until we reach our goal and then learn to live a healthier lifestyle... that's all. Fat is not healthy, any way you look at it. 
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nopainogain New Member
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Posted: 10 October 2009 11:53 am |
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Hello,
Is it ok not to exercise since I don't have ANY time.... Will not exercising stop my weight loss??
Thank you /[color]
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 10 October 2009 04:25 pm |
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Hi nopainnogain! Exercise should be an important part of our lives. It is very beneficial to our health. That being said, I will tell you MY experience. I lost 47 lbs. and did not exercise. I am not proud of that, I am just answering your question. I still lost plenty of weight, and probably would have lost more, had I exercised. I do what I can now, I do 100 situps every morning before work, and try to walk when I can. My goal is to up my exercise as I know it will help keep the weight off and keep maintenance going. So I would recommend even if you can only do 30 minutes a day, do it. If not, do what you can. I always park in the far back of parking lots so I can get a little more "movement" in my day... I take the stairs as opposed to the elevator whenever the opportunity arises... things like that can make a difference over time. So do what you can and try to squeeze in some time for some exercise, in whatever form you can get it for the time being. Your body will thank you. 
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enjoylife New Member
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Posted: 15 October 2009 02:38 pm |
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hi senior dieters,
after more than a week on this diet, i can say that my body is not suited to dairy products but it seems milk and cheese play a big part in this diet. anyone know what i can substitute for cheese? milk? hik! i really like my cheeses too.
junior dieter
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 7 November 2009 06:15 am |
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Enjoy - I swear I answered this question to you before, but unless you posted it somewhere else, I don't see it. Anyways, you do not have to choose milk or cheese for any of your menu items. Also, you do not have to have cheese on veggie day to add to your salad, or veggies. That is optional. So milk and cheese do NOT have to be a part of this diet. If you have any other questions, please post in the general discussion thread where more people congregate and you can get more answers to your questions. 
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tinkrbell New Member
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Posted: 28 January 2010 09:14 am |
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Hi there - I'm a newbie to this diet. My hubby's dad passed on the diet handbook to me and I tried to find forums about it and stumbled upon this! Got convinced to purchase the diet generator and now I'm about to start!
I'm 5'5" and currently 150lbs (coming from 115lbs and after 2 kids). My big target is to be at least 120lbs again -- hoping to be able to do it within 2-3 months. I've done South Beach before but I've always gained back what I've lost. I'm just worried that what I might lose is just water weight in the 1st cycle.
I have some questions on the menu:
- what are sausage links? can I eat frankfurters / schuebligs / etc?
- frozen yogurt: pinkberry / golden spoon fro-yo allowed?
- bacon strips: ok to eat canadian bacon?
- ok to use splenda?
Thanks so much!
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shuless New Member
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Posted: 28 January 2010 02:21 pm |
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| Did you ever get an answer about eating fruit at nights?I too eat fruit at nights, mainly because my last (4th) meal is at 4:30 in the afternoon. It's a long time between 4:30 and 11:00 bedtime. I usually eat frozen grapes and drink ice water. Could someone help with this?
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 28 January 2010 04:35 pm |
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Hi Tinkerbell. Welcome. Yes, you can have any sausage links, so some eat hot dogs, etc. I eat the chicken sausage as I prefer a leaner sausage than pork. But you can have any type. Froyo is fine, store bought or pink berry, etc. Just make sure it doesn;t have any additives like chocolate pieces, granola, etc. Only frozen yogurt, and any flavor is fine. Bacon is on the diet but not sure about Canadian bacon. You could try it. I prefer to stick with only what the diet says, especially to start so you have something to compare it to. Splenda is fine, too. I use it, too. It helps to flavor things without ruining it by using sugar. I love agave, but even that is extra calories, so I stick with Splenda even though it is not the healthiest thing in the world. It tastes better than the other sugar free products (no yucky after taste). Hope this helps! Come on over to the general discussion thread and you will get faster and more answers in the future. 
Shuless - We answered you in general discussion but fruit later in the evening is ok if needed. Of course, it's better if you could make it through without. 
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yaoichia New Member

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Posted: 28 June 2010 04:26 am |
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hi,
I really do love Japanese rice liquor and would love to include into my meals for like, twice a week... they never mention anything about rice liquor, is it bad?
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 28 June 2010 05:17 pm |
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Yaoichia - Are you talking about sake? Are you on the DG or BC version of the diet? On the Dg (diet generator) we are allowed one 4 oz. glass of wine per night. However, I do not believe that sake would be allowed, since it is made from rice. Sake is my favorite drink, so I would love if we could have that in place of the regular wine. It is higher in calories than wine, but I think mostly becuase it is made from rice is the reason. I would not do it unless you have already done a few cycles and then if you wanted to try it and see if it causes any gains, you could decide if it works for you. If you do, let me know. Thanks! 
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yaoichia New Member

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Posted: 1 July 2010 10:43 am |
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Webfairy-
I just started with the DG version, currently at the end of third day, and already missing the taste of sake veeery much! Guess I'll just have to wait til the 12th day,eh? Does this rule still apply if you follow the BC version? I'll be satisfy with just a tiny little cup of it! *desperate* lol~
P.S: I just realized quite a number of other fruits are not listed in the handbook.. such as watermelon, guava, lychee and etc... watermelon and lychee can actually be very sweet, while guava is sweet-sour. Dad just bought those and I feel bad if I don't eat them, since he was so eager to support me, and when I told him those weren't on the list of 'yes' or 'on' fruits he seemed kinda disappointed 
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 1 July 2010 05:15 pm |
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Yaoichia - I know it is hard not to be able to have things we want, but if you want to lose the most weight, you should really stick with the foods listed on the diet. Many foods not listed (like watermelon) are high on the Glycemic Index, so that is why we can't have them. If you are going to deviate, then maybe just have a small amount, so it doesn't upset the diet to much. I have had cantalope accidentally (not realizing it wasn't on the list) and I still lost. But who knows... maybe I would have lost more. Or maybe I can lose but someone else would not lose if they ate it. We are all different, so what may work for one may not work for another. This is what we normally suggest... When first starting the diet, it is best to stick to it 100%... no deviations or cheats. That way you can see how much you can lose. Then after a cycle or three... if you want to substitute something like melon on your fruit day, you have something to compare it to. Sake is a very hard one. I love sake so much and it was hard to wait until cheat days. It is up to you if you decide to have a cup of sake one night as a treat, but I would not do it every night, like wine is allowed. I still the think the best thing is to stick to it 100% for at least your first cycle. Because if you cheat and don't lose much, you may not want to stick with it for future cycles. I believe people need to see the best possible results to encourage them to keep going, that is why I say this. But ultimately it is your choice. Just remember you are taking the chance of not having the most weight loss possible.
The BC is even worse, because you are not allowed ANY alcohol at all! I am doing BC right now and I miss my wine! But I like the 6 small meals and it seems to get my metabolism back in gear.
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yaoichia New Member

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Posted: 14 July 2010 01:15 am |
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Hi,
I'm currently on my 2nd round of the DG version... For my 1st round I didn't have any fish at all because those on the lists are very hard to get in the place where I live T.T So I'm thinking if it is ok to have salmon instead of chicken for, like, two meals for the whole cycle? I remember reading something 'bout salmon replace chicken but I forgot where...
Or is there any alternate type of fishes that can replace those on the list?
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 14 July 2010 05:53 am |
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| Yaoichia - The authors of this diet have said that you can substitute ANY fish. So whatever fish is available in your area is fine. And I don't think it is a problem substituting chicken for some of those meals, either. How did your first cycle go?
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yaoichia New Member

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Posted: 14 July 2010 09:27 am |
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I lost 6.6lbs in the first one 'cause I'd cheated quite a number of times ^^; I just cant get honey out of my meals for the first week, I tried my best to lower the amount I use instead~ some raisins in my salads...etc~
Last edited on 14 July 2010 09:55 am by yaoichia
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FitChick40 New Member
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Posted: 17 July 2010 07:35 pm |
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Im new to this forum. Also just started the FL4I yesterday....today is day 2 Fruits. The diet generator provided me a list of fruits to chose from. Bananas, cantaloupe and black berries are NOT on the list. Does anyone know if I consume these fruits if it will mess up the diet?
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 18 July 2010 03:32 am |
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Fitchick - Welcome! I was gone today so just now seeing your post, but I hope it is not too late. Yes, it can mess things up if you don't follow the allowed fruits. Bananas are never allowed because they are way too high on the Glycemic Index. Cantalope and berries (besides strawberries) are not allowed either because of this. On the BC (Beyond Calories) you can have cantalope, though. If you are just starting the diet, I really suggest you follow ONLY what is allowed if you want to lose the most weight. Later, if you want to sub and see how it affect your losses, you have something to compare it to. Why don't you post in the General Discussion section so you can meet the "others" and you will get more responses. Please post in the general discussion thread and let us know how you are doing, ok? 
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julie New Member
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Posted: 31 August 2010 12:55 am |
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hi does anyone know if the squash is any type? and if the baked beans are like canned from the store?
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point4m New Member

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Posted: 31 August 2010 01:33 am |
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| Julie, I'm not sure about the squash, but I would love to know that as well! As far as the beans go, I use maple baked beans from a can. Surprisingly enough, they were the ones out of all the flavors with the least amount of calories and salt. They faired pretty good on all other counts as well. I'm down to 155 from 168 lb so I guess they are fine to use. Hope this helps!
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point4m New Member

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Posted: 31 August 2010 01:38 am |
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| Thanks for the information webfairy! I know, a tad delayed in my response, but I lost the website due to browser issues and had a heck of a time back tracking to find you all again! Had to contact support and get re-registered because my email had changed and I couldn't access my password reminder! So glad to be back. I have found this site to be so useful and I really hope that it continues on!
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sunshine Distinguished Member

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Posted: 31 August 2010 02:23 am |
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Hi Julie...yes, any type of squash is fine and the baked beans are any flavor normal canned baked beans...you can also make you own.
Welcome back Point4M...come over to the general discussion where we all chat.
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 31 August 2010 03:21 am |
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Hi Point4m. I am glad you made it back! 
Julie - Welcome! Check out the recipe thread for squash ideas or ask in the general discussion thread. The "mock spaghetti" is great! You use spaghetti squash, bake or microwave it, scrape out the "noodles", and toss with shaved parmesan cheese (amount allowed on veggie day), canned Italian tomatoes or fresh tomatoes, and fresh basil... yummy! You can also add sauteed onions if you like. I grew my own zucchini this year, so that was fun to eat! 
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Gabbersss New Member
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Posted: 13 September 2010 07:22 pm |
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I Know This Must Have Been Asked Before, But Does Anyone Know If Eating Lunch Meat (like hillshire farms packaged deli meat) Will Affect Weight Loss?? Do You Have To Get Fresh Sliced That Day Deli Meats? Please Help! Also, I'm A Mother To A 2 month Old And A Three Year Old, So I Use To Rely On Coffee To Energize Me In The Morning. I Really Don't Enjoy Black Coffee. Is There Anything Else That Would Be "Diet Friendly" That Would Give Me A Little Boost In Energy? Last edited on 13 September 2010 07:44 pm by Gabbersss
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Posted: 13 September 2010 08:40 pm |
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Gabbersss - You can have anything considered deli meat. It does not have to be fresh that day. But I don't like all the nitrates and sodium they add. You can make your own meat. I like to cook them in the crockpot (roast or chicken or turkey, etc.) and it is an easy, no hassle way to cook. Last night I put chicken breasts with just barbecue sauce and let it cook on high for 4 hours and it was perfect. I am doing a roast tomorrow in the crockpot. It is much healthier that way, anyways. You should come over to general discussion and ask questions as there will be more replies from others. You can drink tea, too. I am not big on caffeine (super sensitive) but black tea has a lot of caffeine. There are even some yummy flavors. Many of us drink Teavana tea. There is a black tea I like called Rose Marzipan delight. You should check out the choices there... (teavana.com). Any drink you find that is an energy booster that is under 10 calories is allowed. I hope that helps somewhat.
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bandit New Member
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Posted: 19 October 2010 09:46 pm |
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Hello, I just started the diet today. I am doing the beyond calories diet for 10 days. So far so good but I feel really bloated. Is that normal?
Also, I drink my tea with regular milk instead of creamer. Has anyone else done that and still found that they are losing weight?
Right now, am feeling bloated and fatter than I did last night but am hoping it's just my body getting used to all the nutrients it's getting.
Last edited on 19 October 2010 09:47 pm by bandit
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bakedgoodz New Member
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Posted: 25 February 2011 10:34 pm |
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Hi all,
I'm just curious about the bacon option on the meal plan... does anyone know why would they allow bacon?? thats the most unhealthiest fattening food out there. tons of saturated fat, etc. how am i supposed to lose fat eating bacon lol.
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bakedgoodz New Member
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Posted: 25 February 2011 10:41 pm |
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Ibakedgoodz wrote: Hi all,
I'm just curious about the bacon option on the meal plan... does anyone know why would they allow bacon?? thats the most unhealthiest fattening food out there. tons of saturated fat, etc. how am i supposed to lose fat eating bacon lol.
I just wanted to elaborate on this.
Today one of my meals is 1)bacon 2) milk...
after I ate the bacon and milk, i still felt a good level of hunger...i just dont understand how its ok to keep eating bacon if i'm hungry since it is so fattening. i can understand a small portion is maybe ok to eat, but if i'm really hungry eating a whole bunch of bacon is surely not good either, right?
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Posted: 25 February 2011 11:09 pm |
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Welcome back bandit! Bloating is normal at first, so nothing to worry. Day 1 on BC can be a lot of carb meals, so that is probably why you feel that way. I would not drink tea with creamer, personally. Creamer adds more calories and fat and drinks are supposed to be under 10 calories. Can you just splash a little 1% or 2% milk instead? That would help. Maybe someone else will have an idea.
bakedgoodz - I woud not fill up on bacon, either. I would drink more milk than I would eat more bacon. I know it's weird that they allow certain things like that, but I feel there are a few foods that are on the menu we should eat in more moderation than the others. Bacon, nuts and froyo come to mind. When I get meals of things I love like CHEESE... (I love cheese so much), but I don't pig out on it. I don't know how much of a difference it made, but I ate mostly chicken sausages as I knew they were leaner than regular pork sausage. I tried to choose the leaner, healthier choices when I was on the diet, and ate the rest in moderation, and lost 47 lbs. pretty fast. I think it did have some kind of impact on my losses eating like that. That is just my observance, so I guess we have to see what works for us. I know I have said this alot lately, but it's true... not all of us can tolerate some foods the same as others. We follow a general guideline, but at the same time, it is an individual experience. Hope that helps.
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bakedgoodz New Member
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Posted: 25 February 2011 11:28 pm |
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Yes, thank you very much.
So even foods that are not on the menu, because i dont think chicken sausage is on the menu, it is still ok to eat that instead of regular sausage? and the same for all other foods? like instead of bacon, maybe turkey bacon? and instead of milk, maybe soy milk?
thank you again.
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Posted: 26 February 2011 02:08 am |
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bakedgoodz - Sausage is on the menu so any sausage is fine. It does not state pork sausage, it just says sausage. It's like the fish. They only list a few fish types on the diet generator, but the authors have said that ANY fish is acceptable. So I eat salmon once or twice a week. I think turkey bacon is probably ok, too as it is the same kind of change I made with the sausage. I think the best swaps are the same type (lean for lean, etc.) but I think if we are going to swap, it's better to swap a leaner meat for a fatter one on the menu, than it is to swap a fatter meat for a lean one on the menu. I am seriously not sure about soy milk. I think it is a little less calores and maybe fat and cholestorol, too. I wish I could answer that, but I just don't know. I don't drink milk but I love almond milk. I am sure that almond milk is probably a no-no. Maybe someone else can comment.
Let's move the discussion to the general discussion board where more people read the posts, ok? I will try to copy this over...
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