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Erica
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Posted: 30 January 2008 04:07 pm |
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Wow, that sounds like a good plan. It always amazes me to hear or see what other people eat and do for exercise and lose weight. A girlfriend of mine recently told me that unless I am willing to commit 2 hours per day of intense exercise, 7 days a week, I'm not really serious about losing weight! Well, knowing me, at this rate I'll never make it to 2 hours/7 days a week! However, I don't believe that's necessary. I remember the days in college when I didn't have to worry about what I ate because I was so active. Where did those days go!!!
I did finally have a food breakdown yesterday. I think it was just out of frustration that the scale doesn't move. I need to start measuring myself.....those are the numbers that really matter anyway, you're right. I only have 6 weeks left until my trip to California, so I really hope to start seeing some changes. I can feel them when I feel my legs and arms, but I supposed it's one day at a time, right?
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julieandy
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Posted: 30 January 2008 04:15 pm |
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You're right! One day at a time. Don't beat yourself up if one day you eat too much or whatever. You're human! I don't think you need to work out everyday for 2 hours. I was in the gym today at 9:30, I think. I left around 10:40. And that was doing all that stuff too. I may or may not work out tomorrow. I will be there Friday. I probably work out 3-4 times a week. In the beginning I was working out at least 4 times a week or more. I found that now I don't need to, since I'm more or less maintaining my weight. I don't believe in making yourself miserable. You want good pains... that's all. Life is all around you and you have to adapt to it. I've learned to say no to cake at parties and eat something else instead. Or maybe I'll have a bite or two of my kid's cake. Honestly, I'd rather have a drink of wine or something. I'm also 34 and found that when I reached my 30's, losing weight was really hard. I'm glad I started now, cause the 40's are that much harder. You can do this! Believe in yourself adn do what it takes. Even walking in your neighborhood is better than nothing at all. I use the stairs as much as I can and park as far away as possible. Pushing around a few kids in a grocery cart is a workout too! Have fun and keep up the great work!
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Mamanita
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Posted: 30 January 2008 04:18 pm |
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Glassdog - I sub like for like all the time. Ground beef, grilled turkey breast, etc. and I have been quite successful so far. I have to have a "hot" meal sometimes, so I make substitutions. Larry, who has done the diet for quite awhile, does it too.
I agree with Kiwi that they just call for deli meat to make it easier for people. I don't think they specify anything with the chicken.
You will do just fine.
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Erica
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Posted: 30 January 2008 04:28 pm |
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I'm noticing that the 30's are not weight loss friendly like my 20's were, that's for sure! However, I'm so inspired when I see people in their 30s, 40's and even 50s lose massive amounts of weight. They look so wonderful....you can see the happiness in their eyes. It's such a wonderful thing to do for yourself!
I work out one day a week with a friend of mine at a pretty nice gym. There is a "health monitor" computer there that tells you how you're doing: blood presure, pulse, weight, etc. Well, I'm a little overweight, and I knew that, but the computer told me I was just 1 step above seriously unhealthy and potentially causing long term health issues....all from being at a 26 BMI instead of a 25!!! Never, NEVER trust a machine to tell you how healthy you are!!!! lol
I will keep at this.....don't worry. Sometimes, I just need a boost from people that have been there and overcame their obsticles. :-)
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lbh17
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Posted: 30 January 2008 05:04 pm |
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Well I'm on day 3. So far so good. Yesterday was the all fruit day. That was sooooo hard. And all the water I'm drinking, I just have to keep on going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. But generally I'm feeling good and I like the plan. It's easy and not too restricitive like other weird plans I've been in. Especially low or no carb plans.
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glassdog
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Posted: 30 January 2008 06:11 pm |
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Thanx, Mamanita:
The idea of going out every few days to purchase deli meat was a real turn-off. Besides the expense, I don't like nitrates and all that sodium. I always slice (with an electric meat slicer) turkey, beef and chicken when I've cooked them up, and freeze the meat in individual portions.
With this new way of eating, I'll just take the meat I need out of the freezer a day ahead and have just the amount I need for each day.
I absolutely love eating this way! I was never a "breakfast for breakfast" kind of person, so having tuna salad instead of toast and cereal in the morning is right up my alley! I find that eating four times a day has me feeling full more quickly and eating less as well. Most days I have to force myself to eat meal number 3.
I am SO GLAD that I've discovered this way of life (I refuse to call this a diet...) Hopefully, there's a maintenance program available for after the weight comes off? If so, what is it called, and do I have to purchase it seperately? Or is it in something I have yet to read in whatever I've downloaded?
Again, thanks to everyone for their support.
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glassdog
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Posted: 30 January 2008 06:23 pm |
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Hi:
My friend and I started FL4I on Saturday (it's now Tuesday) and we're both down 3 and 4 pounds respectively...without any working out. Both of us are women and we had been with WeightWatchers for 6 months with barely a 5 pound loss in that time. My friend is 70 and I am 50. I know we shouldn't be checking the scale so soon, but I could tell by looking at my belly (or lack of it) when looking at myself sideways in the mirror, that I'd lost weight, so I just HAD to weigh myself. Neither of us had any problems with the fruit day and contrary to many of the posting on this forum, both of us are actually looking forward to the all-veggie day!! We bought dry pinto beans at our local bulk food store and I'm going to make baked beans with them for veggie day. They'll be an extremely low-carb version, but they'll help get us through the day. Someone on the forum made an awesome soup with V-8 juice as it's base that we're going to try in the future, as well. Isn't this forum amazing, with all the help from everyone?
Good luck, and keep posting.
Glassdog
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ELEKTRA
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Posted: 30 January 2008 07:48 pm |
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MEEEEE!!!!! I'm a vegetarian. I was a carnivore, i did the low-carb diet and all that, and then i discovered that "animals are people, too"--well, you get my drift. Don't get me started about inhumane raising and slaughtering practices for unnecessary protein sources. Bla bla bla. Anyway, not to get on a soapbox, but yes, dieting is a little bit more challenging when everything you eat has more CARBS to watch.
I just found this site and just joined, so i'm not sure which diet y'all are talking about, but i just eat fresh veggies, whole grains, nuts, beans, tofu, plain yogurt, cheese, eggs, etc (but--gasp--not enough fruit, i admit), and drink tons of water, and follow a Mediterranian sort of diet, plus i lay off all refined flour and all sugar. My DIET is not the problem, per se, it's that i occasionally freak out and binge on pizza or nachos. Or, i just eat too many calories. Yes, i admit it. Also, i have a desk job, so i've gained about 20 lbs in the last 10 years, and i had a bad knee accident, so am not as capable of the various types of exercise i once was. It's slow going, with exercise, now. BUT! I just invested in a good-quality scale (which i had to order-- should be here any day now, then the HORRIBLE truth will be known), and i got a stationary bike at the Goodwill for cheap. Woohoo!
So, I'm full of high hopes. Let me know if i can be of any help to any vegetarians with recipes or ideas.
All the best!
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ELEKTRA
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Posted: 30 January 2008 07:50 pm |
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| Btw, any vegetarians STILL around? In 2008????
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Hiker
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Posted: 30 January 2008 07:52 pm |
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| I am on day 3 and one of my choices is scrambled eggs, milk is not one of the choices. Cani mix milk with the eggs or am I really suppose to just scramble some eggs? Sorry I should have said, I am on the Fat Loss 4 Idiots diet. Last edited on 30 January 2008 07:53 pm by Hiker
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glassdog
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Posted: 30 January 2008 09:41 pm |
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Hi Hiker:
I just do as the "rules" state and whisk the eggs with a fork, cooking them with a shot of Pam in a fry pan. The rules state we can use a little butter or oil, as well.
Maybe one of the "long-timers" can help us newbies with this question? Are we allowed a bit of milk in our scrambled eggs?
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glassdog
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Posted: 30 January 2008 10:05 pm |
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I agree...the site states that all of our questions should be answered if we read everything through carefully but judging by the vast array of questions on this site, we all have a lot of unanswered questions!!
I am very grateful to all of the people who've been on this diet for a while (some for years) who are kind enough to answer what must be (to them) silly questions.
By the way, I thought that when I went back to print my second 11-day diet, I'd get a completely different list of foods to choose from. Imagine my surprise when I found the same two columns of food staring at me as the first time I made my choices!! Does this mean that for the rest of my life, all I can eat are scrambled eggs, bacon, ham, beef, chicken, tuna, fish, veggies and fruit? Is my beloved cauliflower gone forever?
Glassdog
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sunshine
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Posted: 31 January 2008 01:01 am |
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Hop over to the FL4I general discussion part II and you will find alot more people talking about this. Just go to the end and read back abit. The plan says we should be doing walking...very moderate excercize for fatloss as high intensity burns blood sugar and carbs rather than body fat. There are weightlifters and gym goers etc there who can respond to your question..hope this helps. SS
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Jules41
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Posted: 31 January 2008 08:27 am |
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HI glassdog.
Loved your comment on the cauliflower--- because i too had the same depressive thought.
What I did was on an OCCASIONAL cycle where it says you can eat veg, was to add a small amout of cauli, now as i am trying to maintain my weight, i eat a little more as the veg option and it has not effected me.
just because it says scrambeld eggs doesnt mean you cant have the eggs boiled or as an omlette( diff look to the eye so you think you are having a change-lol)
Good Luck--- its the wine I have trouble contolling!!!
Jules
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Lizardlaird
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Posted: 31 January 2008 08:42 am |
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If youre still looking for vegetarian non breaded chicken... I have used
Morningstar Farms® Meal Starters™ Chik'n Strips
they are good. I live in Hawaii and they are hard to find, but I can find them. Here's the website link for some info about them.
seeveggiesdifferently.com/product_detail.aspx?family=366&id=4971
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Hiker
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Posted: 31 January 2008 11:08 am |
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I am starting day 4 of this diet, I am really amazed at how easy it is, I have not been hungry at all, I think eating 4 times a day makes the difference. I hate to cook and I was concerned that there would be a lot of meal prep. involved but I was pleasantly surprised to discover how simple the meals can be.
Can anyone tell me if I can uses Shrimp Sauce with my shrimp? It is not on the list of approved condiments but I thought I'd see if anyone else uses it.
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nevd
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Posted: 31 January 2008 12:31 pm |
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Hi Erica -
I don't think one day a week is quite enough exercise, however intensive your gym workout...
Presumably, you have other exercise outlets that you didn't mention?
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Erica
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Posted: 31 January 2008 03:30 pm |
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| Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, I am definitely working out more than once per week. It's usually at least 3 with the weights and up to 5 with cardio. One of my weight days is spent at a gym with a friend of mine, while the other weight days, I work out at home on my bowflex. It changes the weights up a bit and is nice to have a friend to work out with. :-)
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sunshine
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Posted: 31 January 2008 03:59 pm |
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Hiker...catsup/ketchup..is on the list and so is salsa...so I mix catsup and horseradish. You could use the cocktail sauce just as well but go easy IF it has more sugar than catsup.
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sunshine
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Posted: 31 January 2008 04:17 pm |
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Glassdog...I have a question for you...I can not eat sodium nitrate...migraines...so I buy nitrate free deli meats at the health mart or grocery. I prefer to have my own cooked meat and I do substitute low fat and lower calorie meats I prepare myself sometimes.
Question...what cuts of beef, pork etc do you buy and how do you cook them to get the best results for slicing. Do you find frozen turkey breasts or roasts that don't have the added stuff? Any insights, cooking instructions, slicing guidelines would be very helpful to me. I'm very concerned about keeping my choices healthy. Thanks!
Sunshine
PS.I stalled out and stopped losing weight on WW and Southbeach even though I kept to the rules and this is working so well for me too!
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Hiker
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Posted: 31 January 2008 04:32 pm |
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| Thanks Sunshine, the ketchup and horseradish sounds pretty good. I think I'll do that to be safe.
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lbh17
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Posted: 31 January 2008 09:50 pm |
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Yay! Good for you glass dog. I'm on day 4 today. Yesterday (day 3) i cheated a little bit. Not a ton, just a little. I'm back on now. I've had meals 1 & 2 so far. Waiting until later in the evening to have my next two meals. I tend to get the munchies at night. Is this okay? Or do they really have to be spaced just so?
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blackcal
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Posted: 1 February 2008 12:56 am |
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glassdog wrote: I agree...the site states that all of our questions should be answered if we read everything through carefully but judging by the vast array of questions on this site, we all have a lot of unanswered questions!!
I am very grateful to all of the people who've been on this diet for a while (some for years) who are kind enough to answer what must be (to them) silly questions.
By the way, I thought that when I went back to print my second 11-day diet, I'd get a completely different list of foods to choose from. Imagine my surprise when I found the same two columns of food staring at me as the first time I made my choices!! Does this mean that for the rest of my life, all I can eat are scrambled eggs, bacon, ham, beef, chicken, tuna, fish, veggies and fruit? Is my beloved cauliflower gone forever?
Glassdog
Glassdog,
We're so lucky to have this Calories per Hour forum. I haven't seen anywhere else on the Internet that discusses the WL4I Diet with this kind of depth.
We'd be lost without CPH!
Blackcal
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JelizaRose
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Posted: 1 February 2008 12:17 pm |
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How do you know peas aren't allowed? In the preparation details it simply says any green vegetable, it doesn't state that they have to come from the vegetables listed on the vegetables only day.
Furthermore, the "mixed vegetables" option which they say can be frozen - these packs ALWAYS have peas in them, and it's hard enough to find a pack that doesn't have corn, which the diet clearly states it shouldn't have. If peas weren't allowed on this diet, don't you think it would say so like it does about corn?
I love peas you see! And I know a delicious pea soup recipe that i was looking forward to eating for my green vegetable options.
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Jules41
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Posted: 1 February 2008 02:28 pm |
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Hiya
Based on your question-how do you know peas are not allowed- I went back through all the info and you are right--- NOWHERE does it say--NO PEAS.
it used to,on the diet generator food prep section, but now it says -- no potato or Corn.
I was always under the train of thought that corn and peas were of an almost similar make up, so took peas out of my diet too--- BUT
It doesnt say that in the rules or food prep( unless I am blind-lol)
So go ahead and enjoy your soup.
Jules
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JelizaRose
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Posted: 1 February 2008 02:30 pm |
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| Thanks Jules you have just become my favourite person of the day!
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glassdog
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Posted: 1 February 2008 04:12 pm |
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Hi Sunshine:
I buy pork loin roasts, boneless skinless turkey breasts (when I can find them) and usually a top sirloin beef roast. My cooking method is usually a crockpot. My pot sets it's own time for 7 hours on low, or it can do 4 hrs. on high, but I prefer the low, slow cook method. Our alternate cooking method is our barbeque. My husband is fantastic at cooking pork roasts, turkey and whole chickens on our Webber grill. He leaves the middle element off and the grill acts like a convection oven.
Pork-season with garlic (either fresh or powder, never garlic salt) or onions and you only need a bit of water. I even used bbq sauce the last time for a change. You need very little water in a crock pot with pork. It makes it's own water, as if by magic!!
Turkey-also in the crock pot. Season with a bit of pepper (or your favorite spice.) Add more water for turkey, as it's a drier meat. I find that cooking it breast down for part of the cook cycle makes the meat as moist as chicken. Of course, if it's a small breast, you wouldn't need the entire 7 hr. cycle.
Beef-a crock pot fave! I fry onions (usually cooking onions) and lots of them, in a pot about seven inches high. Then, I take the roast and brown it in the pot along with the onions. I mention the height of the pot because the olive oil that I fry everything in will spit all over if the sides of the pot aren't high enough. Brown the roast on all sides, then transfer roast and onions to crock pot. Leave some of the onions on top of the roast for half the cook cycle. I add lots of baby carrots and other permitted vegetables into the crockpot. Add enough water to just about cover the veggies. Add any other spices you'd like, but I just go for onion and garlic myself. The added vegetables are perfect for "veggie day." They're full of flavor from cooking with the roast.
As for slicing, we have an electric meat slicer purchased from (I think it was) WalMart years ago. I leave the roast in the fridge overnight to get cold, as it slices better cold. Then, I get out the plastic wrap and freezer bags and get "portioning."
Voila...no chemicals, less cost, and your favorite tastes!! I can't imagine having to go out any buy what I grew up calling "lunch meat" every few days, when I can be eating home cooked beef, turkey and chicken.
Hope this helps...
Glassdog
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glassdog
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Posted: 1 February 2008 09:43 pm |
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To "pea" or not to "pea", that is the question...
I read a lot of questions on this forum regarding whether or not peas are allowed. I just looked up the nutrition count in a 1/2 cup of peas and I think I know why people on FL4I avoid peas. There are a whopping 11 grams of carbs in a half cup of peas whereas one WHOLE entire green pepper only has 5 grams of carbs. 1 1/2 cups of iceberg lettuce has 1 gram of carbs, an entire cup of spinach has 2 carbs...etc. Corn has 21 grams per cup, by the way.
As for cauliflower, which I adore...upon looking it up, both cooked and raw per 1/2 cup is only 1 gram of carbs. I wonder if the problem with cauliflower (in this program) is it's lack of fiber? My book shows <1g per 1/2 cup. If that's the only problem, I'm going to add cauli on veggie day. I love it in stir fries and steamed. And if you boil and mash it, and top it with the allowable cheese, you'd swear you were eating mashed potatoes with cheese...yummm ; )
Hope this answers a few questions...
glassdog
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glassdog
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Posted: 1 February 2008 10:04 pm |
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Hi lbh17:
It's day 7 for us today. We've been weighing in weekly at our friend's house next door. We'd been doing WeightWatcher's since August with a bit of success, but NOTHING compared to FL4I!!! My usual weight loss with WW was .4 lbs. (as in point four of a pound) or if I was really lucky, 2 lbs. Last night, after only 6 days on FL4I, I was down 6 lbs. and my friend was down 4 lbs. Everyone was going through my "tracker sheets" (where I log everything I eat every day) and they were amazed at the wacky combinations.
As for cheating, I've been pouring over this forum for days and you're definitely not the first to cheat, and you won't be the last. And it doesn't seem to hurt people, as long as they get right back onto the diet. I can't remember who posted this idea to help with "the hungries" in the evening, but it seems like a really great idea, doesn't it? Try a protein shake if you get hungry at night. We buy our whey isolate at Popeye's but you can pick up identical products at WalMart and Zehr's. The older versions of shakes tasted like s**t unless you mixed them with milk, but the new stuff is great with water, and the bonus is fewer calories. Plus, you have to drink the water anyways, don't you? Protein makes you feel full, so a shake should kill those grumblies.
As for spacing the meals, we try to eat meals no further than 4 hours apart. From what I've read, that's the optimal time so that your glycemic index doesn't spike.
We'll keep you posted as we travel along on our journey.
Glassdog
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glassdog
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Posted: 1 February 2008 10:15 pm |
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Hi Stef:
My friend and I are new members as well and we didn't want the added expense of having to go out every few days to purchase deli meats, so we bought top sirloin beef roasts, and turkey breasts, and pork loin roasts (to substitute for the ham...several people on this site told me it was ok to substitute "like for like", so I did pork instead of ham.) I cooked mine in my slow cooker, (seperately, of course), let them cool overnight in the 'fridge then sliced them (just like they do in a deli) with my electric meat slicer. Then I portioned them, wrapped them in plastic wrap and placed them in freezer bags. I just take out whichever meat is called for the day before, and I have fresh, homecooked meat without nitrates or a lot of sodium.
Hope this helps you.
FYI I'm down 6 lbs. in 6 days and my friend is down 4 lbs. in 6 days.
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mngds
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Posted: 2 February 2008 03:09 am |
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Hi all,
I'm a bit confused about some of the info on my menue.
I am doing my 11th day tomorrow and have lost nearly 4 lbs so far...less than the 9 that was promissed. Still, I'm pleased. If anyone can help, I need to know what you do with your coffee. I'd like to just have it with some cream or milk but it's way more than 10 callories. I thin that's why I didn't lose all the weight. Also, a few times I had a glass of wine in the evening and had difficulty getting ALL of the water in. I can't wait for my cheat days either because I'm sick of the cold cuts and eggs. I had a lot of stuff like pastrami over and over and over. I read a lot about substitutions. Is that something people are still doing?
Also, I'd love to hear from someone who's kept it off. I've got another 45lbs to go and wondering how I'll get through this diet and not die of boredom. Thanks for any help you can offer.
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bzgirl
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Posted: 2 February 2008 12:17 pm |
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Hey everyone. I am on day 5 of this thing and wanted some realistic feedback. I am a 46 years old, female and a martial artist. Last month I had surgery and put on 20 pounds! Yikes! I am now about to enter tournament season and have my release to train again. Is it really possible to drop this weight in a month's time?
bzgirl
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glassdog
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Posted: 2 February 2008 02:54 pm |
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Greetings mngds:
I can't help with the coffee question as I'm not a "bean" drinker, but maybe I can shed some light on the others.
I too didn't like the idea of "cold cuts" so I cooked my own beef roast, turkey breast and pork roast (hence one of the substitutions you've heard about...pork for ham, or "like" for "like.") I've also switched pollock for orange roughy and tilapia for sea bass. Instead of eating cold, boring meat, I nuke it a bit, which brings out the flavor even more. I cook my meat in a slow cooker, with just a bit of water and whatever spice "turns me on" that day. I like onions for beef, maybe a bit of garlic. I also cook a bunch of permitted veggies in the crock-pot with the beef roast and save these for day 8 (veggie day.) Usually garlic for pork, but last time I used bbq sauce. I cool the roast in the fridge overnight, slice with an electric meat slicer, portion and freeze for later use. I take out whatever meat I need from the freezer the night before, and it thaws in the fridge. I've gotten emails from some people who've been on this WAY longer than many of us, and they will sub ground beef for the beef, ground turkey for the turkey, etc. Someone even has slices of steak instead of sliced beef. Beef is beef! Just keep the portions down, and eat only 'til you feel satisfied. I am NOT a ham liker, but I love roast pork seasoned with garlic...pork is pork.
I wonder if you'd like your coffee with one of the newer Coffee Mate powders? My friend was in the hospital for 6 weeks and got a jar of the Hazelnut flavor because hospital coffee is apparently the worst...she told me this new Coffee Mate is not at all like it used to be. She said it's really creamy now.
As for the wine, I CAN help you with that as I had to seriously curtail my favorite nightly drinking binge of red wine for this diet. Alcohol has a lot of sugar and it slows down your weight loss (with ANY diet.) Hold off on even your nightly glass until you start seeing more of a weight drop (and you boost your water intake.) One of the posters on this forum uses their glass of wine as a "carrot stick." No glass of wine at night unless you've had at least 8 glasses of water. What I do is drink from a glass that holds almost three 8 oz glasses. It's not so daunting to think of drinking three of these plus a bit every day, instead of ten smaller glasses. Mind tricks!! ; )
Hope this helps in some way...
glassdog
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dennymas
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Posted: 2 February 2008 04:22 pm |
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Hi mngds and welcome. Coffee is one thing I will not give up. I only have two cups in the morning and I want it to taste GOOD! I have always used artificial sweetner and half-and-half and will continue to use it. So I guess it depends on how many cups you have and how much cream or milk you use. I've never been crazy about the powdered creamers, they used to contain palm oil so I just avoided them. I like cream because it has less carbs than regular milk. I do more carb counting then fat grams/calorie counting. That's just an old habbit from being a lo-carber for a long time. But the great thing about this program is that you don't have to count anything.
You did great on your first cycle. Try not to compare your loss to the "9 lb. rule". I think they should re-word that anyway. I would suggest to get in a little more water and do some substitutions (within reason) to avoid from getting bored. To me the first cycle is good for a base and then tweaking things a bit to do what fits for you. We all have different schedules and it takes a little time to fit this program in. Soon, it will become second nature. Enjoy your days off and don't feel guilty about what you are eating. Just generate another menu and jump back in next week.
Denise
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Della
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Posted: 2 February 2008 05:13 pm |
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| I add a tablespoon of water for every two eggs, season and a small knob of butter which is allowed. Very tasty and I don't miss the fact that its done without milk.
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sunshine
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Posted: 3 February 2008 12:23 am |
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Mn..I use 1% milk and agave nectar(it is low glygemic, flavorless, no aftertaste...buy it at the health food store) in my tea and I add some nonfat dry milk to my 1% and froth it for my occasional coffee. I sign up for milk on my menu sometimes and have a latte when it comes up. Hop over to the FL4I general discussion and go to the end and then read back some. You will find alot of info, ideas and support there. SS
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sunshine
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Posted: 3 February 2008 12:33 am |
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Hi BZ...hop over to FL4I discussion...go to the end and ask your questions...lots of people talking there who can share results. I personally have not lost 20 pounds in a month but I have had wonderful results in body fat loss and pounds lost so far..21 days. I am small framed and not too heavy so my loss is slower...some people have lost quite fast. I am losing faster and easier on this plan than any I've ever tried and I have tried them all!!! Hope this helps. SS
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sunshine
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Posted: 3 February 2008 12:43 am |
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Glassdog...thank you! thank you!...your thorough answer helps more than you can imagine...I am very grateful for the time you took to give such an instructive response. I am not a big fan of the texture of deli meats so this will be perfect for me. Nitrate free deli meats are rather pricey as well.
All the best...Sunshine
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sunshine
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Posted: 3 February 2008 12:47 am |
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Stef...hop over to FL4I discussion and go to the end...we have several students and lots of people who can answer questions and offer support and encouragement. SS
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mngds
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Posted: 3 February 2008 01:36 am |
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Hi All,
Thanks for the feedback. I'm on my last day now and thought the scale said I'd put on 2 lbs since last night, my pants are saying they are too big for me and I'm dreaming of retiring them for one of my smaller ones in the closet. I look a lot thinner in the mirror and though I have a long way to go, I'm excited. I hope the scale catches up with me feelings. Anyway, tomorrow I plan on eating ethnic because that is what I love. Mexican, morrocon, Indian, and of course persian...my native foods.
I'm worried though that I'll put all the weight back on and have to start from scratch. Who's done this a few times and can assure me that it really stays off.
Thanks for the info on the alcohol glassdog. I'll try your recipies for the meat substitution. I love to cook so I think I can come up with stuff I can eat. It's just so weird not to have any veggies with all this meat.
As for the coffee Denise, I do drink about 2 to 4 cups mostly less than 4. I like it to be creamy and I use artificial sweetner. I do have the agave syrup which I used to use but Ididn't think it would be permitted so I gave it up in the past 11 days. Thanks sunshine, I'll get back to that. I'll need all your support cause I hate dieting. I'll check back again after my cheat. You all have a great weekend and stay on track.
mngds
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Della
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Posted: 3 February 2008 11:15 am |
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Thanks Glassdog for that excellent post, you've actually inspired me so much I have gone and ordered myself a slow cooker.
Just one question, you mention pork which is a choice I have never had. Being a total newbie with this diet, does this mean you are substituting it for say chicken?
I love pork and was getting a bit fed of chicken so if I could make that substitution that would be great.
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glassdog
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Posted: 3 February 2008 02:11 pm |
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Hi:
No, I'm substituting pork for ham. You have to sub "like for like" and pork is ham. Both are from a pig. I prefer the taste of a roast pork seasoned with garlic to a slice of ham any day.
Have fun with your slow cooker!
Glassdog
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Della
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Posted: 3 February 2008 02:35 pm |
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Thanks for replying Glassdog, that makes sense. I quite like ham though but it does come up quite often so its good to know I can substitute.
Last edited on 3 February 2008 02:35 pm by Della
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D Troche
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Posted: 3 February 2008 06:16 pm |
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Erica-
I fell upon your question and read some of the replies you received. I hope you get to read this because I think it will help you with your weight lose slump.
First, It sounds like the diet are following isn't very balanced. Your body needs good foods in order to give you proper energy and weight loss. All of your meals and snacks should contain protein, fat and carbohydrates. These all work together to give your body proper fat burning potential. It also sounds like you are not eating enough calories to support all of the exercise you are doing. Your body burns a certain amount of calories everyday just living, if you are not eating enough calories your body will go into "survival mode" that means it starts to store calories... in turn no weight lose. You can work out all day everyday, if you do not eat enough good food and enough calories, you will not lose weight. It sounds backwards but it is a fact. Try calculating the calories your body requires based on your level of exercise and follow it without cheating yourself on calories. I promise you, you will lose that weight in time for your trip. Here is how you calculate what you need:
Step one is to calculate your BMR with the following formula:
Women:
655 + (4.3 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
Men:
66 + (6.3 x weight in pounds) + (12.9 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)
Calculate Activity
Step two: In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:
- If you are sedentary : BMR x 20 percent
- If you are lightly active: BMR x 30 percent
- If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 40 percent
- If you are very active (You exercise intensely on a daily basis or for prolonged periods.): BMR x 50 percent
- If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 60 percent
Add this number to your BMR.
The result of this formula will be the number of calories you can eat every day and maintain your current weight. In order to lose weight, you'll need to take in fewer calories than this result.
As you lose weight, you can re-calculate the formula to assess your new BMR.
I hope this will help you achieve your goal! Good Luck!!!
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Davina
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Posted: 3 February 2008 09:08 pm |
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if you really follow it and you have really strong willpower it does work! I lose an average of 10-15 lbs per cycle.
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alleyne
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Posted: 3 February 2008 09:08 pm |
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I need help downloading, seems as though the site keep freezing. Anyone know if site still operational, want to start tomorrow.
alleyne
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Davina
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Posted: 3 February 2008 09:33 pm |
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i wisk an egg with a fork, pop it into the mircowave and check it every 30 sec. When it's done Ill usually add a bit of salsa or a tsp of ketchup. No milk, butter or oil.
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Davina
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Posted: 3 February 2008 09:38 pm |
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wow...id love a hambuger :lol:
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artistjohn
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Posted: 3 February 2008 10:26 pm |
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D Troche wrote"Your body burns a certain amount of calories everyday just living, if you are not eating enough calories your body will go into "survival mode" that means it starts to store calories... in turn no weight lose. You can work out all day everyday, if you do not eat enough good food and enough calories, you will not lose weight. It sounds backwards but it is a fact."
I disagree with the above. If you don't eat and or drastically reduce your calories you will lose weight and very quickly and unfortunately die. Long before that you will become very sick.
I cut back on my calories a few weeks ago and exercised like #%@&! and lost weight but boy was it unpleasant and not to be recommended. Find your maintenance calorie levels, a 15% - 20% reduction and some exercise should do the trick.
I have recently watched 2 family members get ill and not eat very much and lie in bed all day (Hosp) They are skeletal, but very ill!!
You can see what I eat in my diary if you like. At the moment during weight loss I avoid cheese butter and anything with sat fat like the plague. In fact if I aint made it I don't eat it. Going out for 2 birthday meals in next 2 weeks so will x that bridge when I come to it
Good luck
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dennymas
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Posted: 3 February 2008 11:24 pm |
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hi alleyne,
Have you been able to get through yet? I just logged on without problems. Are you sure your payment went through? What part is freezing up? Maybe if you can give us a little more info, it will help.
Denise
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