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lysieso New Member

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Posted: 27 April 2009 06:19 pm |
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Thanks Omayra- I think I will enjoy BC too. But since I've had a lousy DG cycle (so far anyway. I have every confidence that it oculd turn around), I'm torn between trying another cycle of DG which worked for me amazingly my first cycle (I lost 12lbs ). This cycle so far I've lost 0. So Im definitely curious how your BC cycle will conclude. Keep me posted.
Thanks!
Lysie
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 27 April 2009 06:52 pm |
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Good morning!
Question regarding the 6 meals - Just wondering how you all are planning. Here's what I mapped out for myself - I looked at the day's plan, for instance, today (Day 1) is:
FF
PP
PA(A=Any)
VVVP
FF
FF
First I picked out the meal most likely to fit in with DH's and my dinner (the only meal we always eat together, between 5 and 5:30 pm). VVVP (I think we'll have grilled fish, steamed asparagus, and a salad.)
Then I picked out a likely breakfast. PP (Scrambled eggs w/Laughing Cow Cheese)
A likely lunch. PA (Cheese & tomato slices.)
Then 3 snack meals. FF FF FF (First one was pineapple and prunes. )
My approximate times to eat would be: B 9 am / S 11 am / L 1 pm / S 3 pm / D 5 pm / S 7 pm
I promise I won't share every meal with you all, but I'm just curious to know if I'm on the right track, without overthinking this.
Thanks!
Annie
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 27 April 2009 08:39 pm |
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Annie, I think you're on the right track.
I decided not to think much about the menu and make sure all the foods on the list on hand so all I'll have to do everyday is just grab foods from the fridge and eat accordingly.
It's a lot easier to eat proteins when you're on the go, so if you're out running an errand, I recommend printing out the menu for that day, and try to carry a bag of nuts or jerky with you so you won't be tempted to deviate by eating at a fast food restaurant.
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 27 April 2009 08:41 pm |
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That looks good Annie!
Here is my day so far: (my portions this time are definatley smaller than the last two cycles)
7am: grapes (3), apple (1/3 sliced) w/ 1 cup of coffee
10:15: (got sidetracked as far as time went) cottage cheese (4 tbsp) w/ grapes (4) w/ 1 cup of coffee
12:45: eggsalad (1 egg w/mayo & celery chopped) w/1slice swiss
3:15: apple (1/3 sliced) , grapes (4 grapes)
5:45: roast beef (1 slice not lunch meat ~ real roast) & salad w/ tomatoes & onions (not sure my quantitiy here sm lunch size plate)
8:15: kiwi (1 kiwi) & strawberries(1 large)
I like your idea of doing the three meals with snacks inbetween. I find that I like to have something quick & fast for my first meal then more of a protein meal after my son is off to school. Also I am trying to not eat so late but DH gets home so late it throws me off as I like to leave a light meal (two fruits today or a veggie meal) for the last one but don't want to eat it 9pm!
Also I thought we had to wait 2.5 hours between meals but I know Zeva does 2 hours. Did the manual say eat every 2 hours? That would make things easier to fit in. Even though I get my first meal in early I feel that my last meal ends up being between 8 & 9!! 
I do love these first few "light" days with all the fruit. The protein days seem "heavier" to me plus makes it harder to stay on track as the fruit curbys my sweet cravings. I am going to weigh eveyday & see how the different meals effect me. Also I am watching my portions to see how that helps. I am not hungry at all today & have not ate much at all as far as quantity.
I do very well with my water/tea & usually drink between 96-128oz of liquid a day not including coffee.
What do you think???
Prose
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KmcK New Member

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Posted: 27 April 2009 08:45 pm |
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ANNIE: I think you are okay with your planning of meals. I am on DAY 1 of BC and I had
2 fruit for breakfast
fruit for snack
1 Protein 1 any: hamburger patty and coleslaw (cabbage and low cal dressing) lunch
fruit for snack
1 protein and 3 veg; chicken breast and salad for dinner (lettuce tomato cuke)
fruit for snack
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KmcK New Member

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Posted: 27 April 2009 08:47 pm |
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 27 April 2009 09:50 pm |
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Thanks everyone for the tips and the input. I'm with you, Omayra. I prefer just having the food on hand and grabbing something appropriate, instead of planning menus. So, this is definitely better for me in that respect than DG.
PRose - Here's what the book says about time space between meals:
"You can also eat these meals at ANY time during the day (you get to choose the exact meal times). The only rule is that you should try to space out your meals as much as possible (we know that you have a busy schedule, but try to space out each meal by a couple hours at least if possible). Or, if that's not possible then just space
them out as good as you can."
I'm noticing that 2 hours is a pretty short time in between, but I'll see how it plays out after a few days. Instead of tomatoes and cheese for my third meal - Lunch - I only ate 3 radishes and a one-ounce wedge of Laughing Cow Light (35 calories / 1 carb). And I'm think two strawberries and one bite of pineapple will do me in for my fourth meal, if I can even get that much down!
Kmck - Is the BC plan working well for you? I'm just really curious what I'll weigh tomorrow after all these mini-meals.
I think I'll repeat this day tomorrow and get most of the fruit out of the way in the beginning. I am not a big fruit eater, and I usually see more of a weight loss after protein and low-glycemic vegs.
Thanks again!
Annie
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 27 April 2009 11:16 pm |
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P-Rose, I think you're doing great. For BC they tell you to wait a minimum of every 2 hours just because you get 6 meals, therefore, it makes sense.
After my very first DG cycle, I decided to stop counting portions. Doing that made eating feel like a chore. However, If measuring the portions work better for you, go for it!
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 01:52 pm |
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Hi everyone..
Omayra ~ thanks for responding!! Well I am off to a great start!!!! Believe it or not, I am down 3#'s already!!! I can't believe it is all water weight as I drink my same amount of water during CD's. Comments???
Thanks for posting the recipe for the tomatoe sauce ~ going to make it tonight over the spagetti squash. Do you think that since it has the tomatoes, garlic & onion that counts for 3 veggies right there right???
I definately think watching my portions closer is a good idea & think it will help alot. I honestly think I was eatting until too close to satisfied & for the 6 meals instead of the 4 meals increases you intake by quite abit. I was not hungry at all yesterday & did not have any temptations ~ hope today goes as well.
Cheers BCers...
~Prose / FFF / BC
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KmcK New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 02:03 pm |
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ANNIE:
Well I havent been successful thus far. Although I havent done a full cycle yet. I started on April 14th and my brothers wedding was on the saturday. so I basically did 2 days on BC and then ate pizza and wings and garlic bread. Saturday I ate and drank anything put in front of me. Sunday was much of the same.. then I did 4 days on the BC and then a weekend of cheats. So needless to say I didnt lose anything. But I didnt gain any either.
but I do like BC a bit better because I liek the additional vegtables and fruiton the menu. O nDG i was cheating and adding soem veggies with my meals. ..I am having a hard time with portions tho..I tend to overeat. I am not getting the "satisfied" feeling I get a "full" feeling then I stop..which I know its too late..so I have to work on that.
Has anyone had much success on the BC? What are everyone views on the BC!
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 28 April 2009 06:31 pm |
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P-Rose,
The tomato sauce can count as 3 veggies. That's how I got the idea.
I found the recipe on the cookbook that came with my slow cooker and I modified it to suit the diet. The original recipe calls for 1/2 cup of fresh basil, real sugar and olive oil. Onions aren't on that recipe so I added some when on my menu I was to eat 4 veggies.
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 06:50 pm |
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KmcK ~ I did the same thing on DG. I started rationalizing that if you can have salsa, why not a salad, or some broccoli, .............? The last few cycles I did on DG I was much more strict with myself, often only choosing one of the two or three items listed, and not adding in any veg. If the menu said chicken and cheese, I ate the chicken and sometimes the cheese, but nothing else added. It really made a difference for me and I began losing, albeit still slowly (which is all I can expect I guess).
As far as portion control is concerned, a couple of mind tricks I use:
~My father was slim all his life. He told me only to eat until I was no longer hungry, not full. Sometimes that can work for you. I like to think of it that way instead of "only until satisfied."
~I read a couple articles recently that if you eat slowly and savor every bite, at some point you will sigh, or pause to take a deep breath. This is the point at which you should stop eating, because it actually takes something like 20 minutes for your stomach to signal your brain.
All that said, I put all my meals from yesterday on http://www.fitday.com and wound up with less than 1000 calories and was never hungry all day. And to top that off, I weighed a pound more this a.m. than yesterday! The way I am, though, it may take me a day or two to notice a couple pounds drop off. I sure hope it's soon!
PRose ~ Congrats on the 3 pounds ! Makes it all worthwhile, huh?
Cheers!
Annie
Last edited on 28 April 2009 07:07 pm by Annie
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 07:11 pm |
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Omayra - Thanks for posting that tomato sauce recipe. It sounds like a very good basic sauce, similar to one I used several years ago for my home-grown tomatoes. I only had a few plants, but wound up with a bumper crop so I peeled a bunch of them and made a sauce to freeze in canning jars. We had yummy pasta dishes all winter long!
Annie
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KmcK New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 07:39 pm |
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I just did my calories on fitday for today and im over 1500 and i still have 2 meals to go.   
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 08:04 pm |
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oh..wow I am surprised. What have your meals been, if you don't mind sharing?
I will do mine now.
Prose
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 08:10 pm |
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KmcK ~ Don't panic! We can solve this.
We all know we are not supposed to have to count calories on this plan, just shift calories and carbs from day to day. The only reason I checked mine was because I had never done a 6 meal/day diet and wanted to be sure my 1 pound gain wasn't due to eating too much. And I know that on the DG I ate plenty more calories on some days and lost weight doing it, when I would have sausage or bacon - I never ate the low-fat kind. Not sure, but since you feel that your problem is portion control, maybe that's where you need to start in solving this.
~ Do you make a point to set yourself a place to eat and take your time? Or are you like my husband, who loves to eat standing at the kitchen counter over the sink! He calls it "grazing." (He's a terrible influence on me).
~ Have you tried the mind trick of using a luncheon plate instead of a dinner plate, and then not filling it too full?
~ I think someone in General Discussion said they put what they plan to eat on their plate, and then take half of it back off. Or when dining out, they order a meal and a box so they can pack 1/2 of it away to take home before they start eating.
Whatever you do, don't give up and starve yourself. That's when your metabolism will put the brakes on and not budge an ounce.
I'm 59 years old and my metabolism is at times almost nonexistent. Of all the plans I've tried in recent years, FL4I is the only one that gives me hope that I can lose, although much slower than when I was younger. This calorie/carb shifting makes more sense to me than any other plan I've seen.
I don't know if my advice/thoughts will help. Maybe someone with more success on BC can tell you what works for them. Who knows, KmcK? You might wake up tomorrow and be 2 pounds lighter without changing a thing. Your body just might be slower to adjust to this brand new WOE.
I wish you the best of luck - We're all in this together.
Annie
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KmcK New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 08:24 pm |
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okay this is what i have had so far today:
Breakfast...2 proteins: 3 strips bacon and scrambled egg (cooking spray)
snack...2 fruit: 1 apple
lunch...1 pro/1 veg: 1.5 cups ground chicken, 1 cup mushroom with chili powder (cooking spray)
=1000 cals
I haven't YET eaten my other half of my ground chick/mushroom for dinner... but that will bring me up to 1500
(2 any: 1.5 cups ground chicken, mushroom with chili powder (cooking spray))
and I still have 3 veggies and 4 veggies left for today
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 08:27 pm |
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Hi again KmcK~
I agree with Annie on this. Some days will be better than others, but counting calories is NOT the idea at all. I think the tips she gave you are great! Last cycle I definately ate more but this time I thought, I am going to try eating 1/2 of what I WANT & see how I feel.
My total yesterday was 665 calories. I did not do todays yet. I used the calculater on this site. Fruit & veggies have hardly ANY calories!!!
Prose
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sunshine Distinguished Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 08:44 pm |
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Annie...loved your ideas! I actually bought some adorable salad size plates at the thrift store in various patterns that are fun and colorful...it makes may smaller portions look larger and even more appealing. I used to be able to out eat all my friends...but the smaller plates still makes me feel like my plate is FULL and then I feel full when I finish...it is all a mind thing! They have actually done studies to prove that the more food you offer and the more variety...the more a person will consume!! They even tried this with M & M's and the more colors in the bowl and the larger the candy bowl the more people took. I think the limited items per meal and eating only to satisfied apply this science with these plans!
Hi All...the beauty of this plan is that we DON'T HAVE TO MEASURE OR WEIGH PORTIONS COUNT CALORIES, FATS, CARBS OR POINTS!! Some days your body will call for more food and if you are counting calories...it is easy to get in the mind set of not going above or below a certain number...this doesn't allow you to develop the "just satisfied" sense that will keep you slim no matter what you eat after the plan... and keeping to a set calorie prevents calorie shifting. Our bodies need more calories some days and less on others. I used to keep a "checkbook" of my calories and a food journal...it is a major pain. Your body will get used to the constant calorie count and you will stop losing...happened to me...even on fewer a fewer calories. When I started the DG and BC it scared me to think that I would not be keeping track of everything! But I have lost weight and MAINTAINED WITH OUT LOTS OF EFFORT!! Anyway...just my two cents for those who are trapped by counting or the numbers on the scale. It is a hard addiction to break...mostly because we have forgotten how to trust our bodies to tell us what we need...and have been counting for years!
You are all doing GREAT!!! Keep up the good work and you will find success that you did not dream possible!
Hugs to all
SS
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KmcK New Member

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Posted: 28 April 2009 08:46 pm |
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Thanks you guys:
I know exactly that I am an over eater. I graze while making the food and then I fill my plate and eat it all til its gone. I have tried the taking my time while eating and that worked. or using a smaller plate..that worked too. I just forget sometimes especially after having a few 'free for all' weekends. my stomach has expanded and expects more...hahaha.
Anyways I just need more self disipline. Thank you for your help it really puts things into perspective. If I didnt have this forum to tell my thoughts or fears or get advice then I think I would have continued to fail at this. At least I have people telling me to pick myself back up and try again. Which i will do starting now.
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sunshine Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 12:41 am |
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KM...chew gum while preparing food for anyone...you will NOT put food in with the gum . You have to have a plan so you don't mindlessly graze....and the gum works like a charm.
On another plan years ago, I was cooking for my family of 6...and I was on liquid meals ...I actually put on swimmers nose plugs when I had to bake brownies or cook my favorites....it was funny but it got me through! You just have to get determined and think about HOW to not graze and overeat. I find a cup of hot tea with my meal also fills me up and keeps me from overeating. Another favorite is "poor mans lemonade"...a large glass of ice water with one or two lemon wedges squeezed in and sweetener.
Share with us what works and and maybe others here will have some ideas for you. If you don't eat any cheat food...your appetite will diminish...this diet does this if you stay pure on it...many of us have been very surprised by this effect.
S S
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 01:25 am |
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Sunshine - LOL on the noseplugs!   Why oh why didn't I think of that when DH wanted me to fix liver?
The gum is a great idea too - never thought of that!
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 01:33 am |
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I have to chime in & agree with you sunshine! The gum has REALLY helped me lately as has the lemon water with alittle sweetener. Curbs that need for "something". Now the noseplugs is very creative!!! I posted about the diet chocolate pop earlier & that was a great treat today!! Faygo makes it 0 calories . 
Hope everone had a great day!!! I did super again today...no cravings, not hungry! I am thrilled & feel I am on a roll. Also staying positive puts a different spin on my attitude. Hey, whatever works right!
Cheers...
Prose
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 29 April 2009 02:21 am |
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| For the most part, I have not gotten any cravings on this plan. I was thinking of switching to the DG for the next cycle just to alternate but I think my T-O-M, is coming soon and I can't stick to the plan closely during that time. Even if my loss this cycle may not be the most favorable, I'll at least be able to get thhrough it without deviating. II want to at least have a good 7 days. As I mentioned early, on May 7th, I have a get together where I signed up to bring a dish. The following Saturday that week, I get to spend the day with my DH while a friend babysits my kids. Essentially, I'm just extending my diet even though I'm weighing in, in 2 days.
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 29 April 2009 06:25 am |
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| I just finished my final meal. I had 2 foods from group 4. I dipped fresh strawberries into my usual chocolate "cheesecake" dessert. It tasted like Heaven! I tried it with frozen black cherries last time. I like it with fresh strawberries so much better.
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 05:10 pm |
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Good Morning!
Omayra - Your last meal yesterday was exactly what I had 'planned' to have, too! I didn't have the WF syrup, but I thought I would just use some cocoa and Splenda in place of it. Well, didn't work that way. My day was so screwed up. Had my first meal later than planned, then the rest of the day went downhill from there. I got all kerfuffled in trying to get all 6 meals in (jammed 2 strawberries and two pineapple chunks down my neck on my way out the door once!) We did have a nice beef roast with roasted zucchini for dinner - Meal 5. Anyway, I wound up with an all veg meal at 8 pm. I remembered reading that PRose used V-8 juice for a meal and I thought - Okay, better than nothing. Sure glad you wrote that, PR! I lost that one pound I gained after the first day, plus 2 more, to be really close to my lowest weight last cycle.
Yes, being prepared is a good thing. When you're home almost every day like me, it seems the smallest hiccup in the day can turn things upside down.
Have a great day everyone - and drink your water!
Annie
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Alfina New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 07:38 pm |
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Hi...I am new to this forum and to BC...I have been reading this thread and I am wondering if someone could help...?
I am on day 4 of BC and I actually enjoy it for the most part and I really like the 6 meals a day. I weighed myself on the morn of day 2 and instantly lost 4 pounds and I am not sure why...any ideas.? I have not lost any more since?
Also, I don't know how much too eat...sometimes I feel like my body wants lots of food and other times I'm not sure and then others I feel like I ate just enough...any advice?
Thanks,
and I am glad to have found this forum...
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 08:51 pm |
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Hi Alfina and Welcome! And congrats on dropping 4 pounds in one day. I think that when you lose those first pounds, it could be water weight. That usually comes off first. Especially if you are drinking more water now on this plan. Did you do the FL4I Diet Generator (DG) at all before starting BC? This is my first cycle on BC - I'm on Day 3, but I did several cycles of DG prior, so it got me more used to spacing my meals and drinking the water. The DG only has 4 meals/day, so you tend to eat a little more at each sitting than you would on BC.
Check out our discussion on this page regarding knowing how much to eat. It is really unique to the individual. I have found, however, that for some meals I'm more hungry - and for others I could easily skip eating all together. I think determining when you are 'satisfied, not full' is key to losing the weight. I still say my dad's tip - "Just eat until you are no longer hungry" - has been my guide. That, and eating slowly enough that at some point I either sigh or pause to take a deep breath - that's when I feel I should stop eating.
So far today I had -
Meal 1 - 9 am - 2 eggs and about 2 oz. of ham
Meal 2 - 11:30 am - Chopped romaine with sliced strawberries, cracked pepper and balsamic viniagrette
Meal 3 - 1:30 pm - Turkey slice spread with Laughing Cow cheese and rolled up
Alfina - Be sure to introduce yourself in the General Discussion thread. That's where everybody hangs out - lots more activity there. And many have done or are doing the BC, so you can probably get lots more friendly support there, as well. Don't be afraid to ask - We've all been new to this once. And we're all still learning!
Cheers!
Annie
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 09:16 pm |
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Hey Annie!
I really don't think the V8 is a problem especially when the next week there are so many veggie meals! Glad it worked for you... I am down another pound so as of this morning I am already at my goal!!!!  I know that could change, but I am doing fabulous this cycle!!! Staying stron like Zeva!!!!
I also tried the mock chessecake & it was amazing!!!! I did get the WF chocolate dip & it worked great. Not too good alone but mixed it was perfect & how can you beat no calories!!! I have 2 meals left, will do the VVVP ~ was going to do salad with either egg OR cheese..but your idea for the strawberry salad would be perfect for the VF! So maybe for dinner I will have the leftover spag. squash with tomatoe sauce & the baked portabella mushroom topped with provolone!!! 
I truely LOVE the BC once again, not saying I won't do the DG now & then to mix it up!!!
~Prose
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 10:15 pm |
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persimmon rose wrote: Hey Annie!
I really don't think the V8 is a problem especially when the next week there are so many veggie meals! Glad it worked for you... I am down another pound so as of this morning I am already at my goal!!!!  I know that could change, but I am doing fabulous this cycle!!! Staying stron like Zeva!!!!
I also tried the mock chessecake & it was amazing!!!! I did get the WF chocolate dip & it worked great. Not too good alone but mixed it was perfect & how can you beat no calories!!! I have 2 meals left, will do the VVVP ~ was going to do salad with either egg OR cheese..but your idea for the strawberry salad would be perfect for the VF! So maybe for dinner I will have the leftover spag. squash with tomatoe sauce & the baked portabella mushroom topped with provolone!!! 
I truely LOVE the BC once again, not saying I won't do the DG now & then to mix it up!!!
~Prose
Cool Beans, PR! I am stoked for you!   So, Now that you reached your cycle goal, you could just cut it short and take 3 days off?   Just kidding - it feels good though, huh?
Okay, tell me about the portabella and provolone, please? I just bought a boatload of big white mushrooms, not ports, but big enough to stuff. And I was just going to go search for a way to fix them stuffed with just the cheese. I have mozarella, parm, bleu and brie to choose from. I have often done mini pizzas with them, and placed a grilled burger on top of a grilled port - add a little bleu cheese and yummo! (Rachel Ray gets on my nerves, but she is good!)
Also, if you like gazpacho, I posted a recipe on the recipe thread last September, it's on the next to the last page (Page 3). You can improvise with adding or deleting ingredients to your liking. Just in case I get the urge, I put a 15 oz. can of diced tomatoes in the refrig. and figured I would use my little rocket blender, not add the V8, and add in cukes and onions/garlic with seasonings for a quick version.
And thanks again for the V8 tip - that will be one of my 'go-to' items when in a rush.
Later
Annie
Last edited on 29 April 2009 10:23 pm by Annie
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Alfina New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 10:21 pm |
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Thanks Annie...I was a little reluctant to think that the first pounds were water as I always drink water...but I guess that's all it could be...
Also, what do people think should happen when you are not hungry...should you eat your meal anyhow?
Thanks...
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Alfina New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 10:23 pm |
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Hi Persimmon Rose,
When did you first notice weighloss? And how has it progressed over the 10 days?
Thanks, A
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 10:35 pm |
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Alfina wrote: Thanks Annie...I was a little reluctant to think that the first pounds were water as I always drink water...but I guess that's all it could be...
Also, what do people think should happen when you are not hungry...should you eat your meal anyhow?
Thanks...
Alfina - I could be wrong on that water weight, but I do know that certain foods cause me to lose faster - like proteins, which work for me like a diuretic, whereas fruit will stick with me and actually show a temporary gain for a day or two after eating a lot of it.
As for times you're not hungry, the book says to try for 6 meals/day. Some of us are only able to get 5 meals in. I had problems with time constraints yesterday. But I still ate something 6 xs. One meal was 2 strawberries and 2 chunks of canned pineapple. Another meal was a can of V-8. My way of psyching myself is to think of it as 3 meals - Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner - and 3 snacks spaced out between the other meals. That way I eat more 3 xs/day and just a little snack the other 3. So, I get to thinking more that a snack is a meal. Does that make sense? I just need to play head games with myself to make it work. 
Annie
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 10:59 pm |
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Hi Annie, I baked the portabella mushrooms topped with Omayra's pasta sauce recipe then added the provolone to just "soften" it, I don't like my cheese too Melty. Your stuffed muchrooms sound great, I am sure you will find lots of recipes, chop up the stems really fine & add that to the stuffing. Not sure if you ever heard that or not.
Alfina~ I am on my 3rd cycle of the BC & this one is going the best so far. The key is to stick with it to a T for the best losses. I am weighing every day & on day 3 so far & am down 4#'s. Also you have to figure out your quantities which is tricky.
Hope everyone is having a great day!
Prose ~ FFF / BC
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Alfina New Member

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Posted: 29 April 2009 11:27 pm |
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Thanks again...
Annie-I really like the 6 times eating and I do find I am generally hungry when it comes time to eat.
Prose-so do you think that when you finish a meal you are satisfied/full or just hitting full...what do you say?
Alfina
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 12:48 am |
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Alfina~
Definately NOT FULL... I would say not quite satisfied, not really hungry is all I can say.
The last cycle I did I thought I was eatting to much, so this one I thougtht..I am going to try & eat half of what I normally would to be "satisfied" & see how I do. You have to remember that you are eatting again in 2 hours or so. If you eat to much, you won't be hungry for your next meal. The whole idea of the BC or how I understand it, is to jump start your metabolism even more by eatting small meals more often. If you eat the same "amount" as on the DG when you ate 4 meals, now you are eatting 6 meals. I felt that was "increasing" your food intake by quite abit. Last cycle I did loose 2 or 2.5 pounds but I admit I did cheat here & there. My first cycle on the DG I lost 7.5 pounds.
If you have not done a cycle at all, I would strongly suggest doing at least 2 cycles of the DG as it is spelled out so perfectly & easy to follow...no room for error.
I hope this helps some.
~Prose
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 12:54 am |
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Evening my fellow BC friends...
Hope you guys had a great day! I am so thrilled that I am doing this well this cycle, I have not had any cravings, no temptations & not hungry between meals!! I am not sue what has changed for me or if it is just my attitude this cycle ~ I sure hope it lasts!!!
So I have one more meal left VF...not sure what to have as I had a salad for dinner with a hardboiled egg..VVVP. Annies meal of salad with strawberries & balsamic would have been perfect but not sure if I want another salad.... 
Love all the recipes & new ideas from you guys, it has helped! Omayra I am going to try your zucchini linguine soon.
Cheers..
~Prose
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Alfina New Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 01:27 am |
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| How about inch loss? Prose, or anyone measuring inch loss?
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 30 April 2009 04:10 am |
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Today I was craving chicken wings so after reading up on low carb recipes, I bought a bottle of Frank's Red Hot buffalo sauce (0 calories). I sprinkled some cajun seasoning and garlic salt on some chicken breast strips and browned in olive oil cooking spray then poured the sauce over them. I think next time I'll omit the garlic salt because it came out too salty. They were ok. I dipped them in some calorie free bleu cheese (flavored) dip which I mentioned a while back.
I know bleu cheese alone isn't enough to make a dip and the recipes I found go completely against the diet so I don't know how to come up with an alternative.
Oh well. I've had 3 meals so far and tonight I'll be having my mixed meal.
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 05:28 am |
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Omayra - My DH loves ranch dressing, so for him I make a light version using Hidden Valley mix, lowfat milk and lowfat mayo. I usually prefer a vinaigrette, but sometimes I add crumbled bleu cheese to the ranch for myself. I know milk is not on the food list, but lowfat salad dressings are. Do you think this would be out of line for a dip with the hot wings?
Just thinkin'. (Actually, DH invited company over for boxing Saturday night and I always barbecue hotwings from Costco, so was already thinking how to do this. I do have one meal that is AAAA, so this and vegs with dip should satisfy everybody. Do you think I'm safe in trying this?)
Annie
PS - I'm really liking this BC plan.
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 30 April 2009 06:45 am |
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You're right Annie. I think I'm going to take advantage of the fact that low fat dressing is allowed.I'll see if I can find some lowfat bleu cheese since I already ran out of that dip I bought.
What is AAAA, is that 4 foods from group 4? If so, you might be deviating since the chicken is supposed to be skinless.
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 11:15 am |
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Hi Ladies... Annie I think the recipe you use for the ranch would be totally fine. Plus homeaid dressing doesn't have any preservatives or things like that so I think it would be better. Now if we can have cheese slices & everyone (including me) are having brie & other cheese, don't you think that blue cheese is okay or even feta in moderation...It's not like you are going to eat an entire package. 
Prose
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reeldreamr Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 12:59 pm |
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I wanted to see your thoughts/input:
I wake up really early with a toddler that needs to get ready for daycare then I need to get ready for work ( My husband works in the city and is long gone by 6am!) anyway, I do NOT have time to eat until I get to the office(which is 2 hours AFTER I wake up).so I have been grabbing 10 almonds so my stomach is not growling and I have not been counting them as anything...THEN after work while feeding the baby and before his bath I have grabbed a protein drink with 100 calories and 21grams of protein to hold me over until the baby is down and dinner is ready...I do this b/c I feel it's better to get protein than eat cheese/carb or something else that is not allowed either...
Are these 2 things going to really screw things up for me?
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 03:04 pm |
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Good Morning! Omayra - yes, the AAAA is my code for "Any", as in 4 from Group 4. I did a little spreadsheet for myself, from a basic menu sheet someone sent me, and I use a letter code to designate the meal plan for each day (FF (2 fruits), VV(2 veg.) and so forth. Spreadsheets make it so much easier for me - Once a bean counter, always a bean counter! The other thing I did that really helped me was to re-type all the allowed foods and alphabetize them within their groups. I know - too anal!
And you're right about the skinless chicken. However, I think the whole plan is off. I went to grill some chicken breasts on my Traeger pellet grill last night and it won't start - again. Probably can't get it repaired 'til next week. Bummer.
Morning Prose - I don't see anything wrong with bleu cheese, except that it doesn't slice very well.  
Hi reeldreamr - I really don't know what the answer is to your question. If you're up that many hours I imagine it is hard to stick to just the 4 meals (I'm assuming your doing the DG?) You might post your question in the General Discussion thread, as it is more active. Maybe one of the longer term members can give you some insight. Personally, I would think the protein is a better choice, but some say to have a piece of fruit, while others say to have an extra vegetable. Otherwise, have you thought about doing the BC with 6 meals?
Have a great day everyone!
Annie
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 30 April 2009 07:34 pm |
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Today I weighed in. At the beginning of this BC cycle I weighed 170.4 and I now weigh 164.8.
I was hoping to lose more but I believe this was still a good cycle. I'm starting again with BC at day 1 today and I'm going to have a cheat weekend from May 7th to May 10th due to some engagements I have that weekend. After that I'll start another cycle from day 1.
I think for this BC cycle, I'll try having 4 meals a day rather than 6, depending on how hungry I am. It should work just as well considering that the DG and the 10 rules plan have 4 meal menus.
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persimmon rose New Member

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Posted: 30 April 2009 09:16 pm |
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Thats GREAT Omayra!!!! I was up one this morning from yesterday so we will see if it disappears by morning. I am weighing in every day to see how that works.
Hey, I put a couple little dollops of the WF chocolate dip on waxed paper in the freezer...Not bad I must say! Just kept me from eatting a COOKIE!!!!!!! 
~Prose
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 30 April 2009 09:56 pm |
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I read a a review where someone did that. You've gotten me curious. I'm using the syrup for now. When I open my second jar of dip, I'll have to try that!
Well, I tried to make tomato sauce out of a fresh tomato and I was dissapointed. I guess I can use the rest of the tomatoes to make some bruschetta since I don't want them going to waste.
I guess I'll just stick to making sauce with canned tomatoes from now on, unless anyone knows a secret to making it that I don't know.
persimmon rose wrote:
Thats GREAT Omayra!!!! I was up one this morning from yesterday so we will see if it disappears by morning. I am weighing in every day to see how that works.
Hey, I put a couple little dollops of the WF chocolate dip on waxed paper in the freezer...Not bad I must say! Just kept me from eatting a COOKIE!!!!!!! 
~Prose
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 1 May 2009 01:43 am |
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Congrats on the loss, Omayra! Sounds like you have this plan working for you. I'm anxious to hear how doing 4 meals fares for you. I don't see why it shouldn't - like you said - 10 Rules has only 4 as well.
Annie
Edit to add: I almost forgot - I have my best luck making marinara sauce from fresh tomatoes if they are plum tomatoes or some other more fleshy type. And they need to be really really ripe to have the best flavor. If your sauce is still too thin or without enough substance you might have to add a couple squirts of tomato paste. (I use the kind that come in a tube, like toothpaste.)
Prose - Cookies? On a diet? I'll be right over! 
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Omayra New Member
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Posted: 1 May 2009 02:24 am |
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Well Annie,
My T-O-M just came today. I ate 3 meals already. I'll do my best to hold off and just have 4 meals but if I feel the need to eat more, I will since I'm sure you know what this time is like.
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Annie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 1 May 2009 02:28 am |
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I don't envy you. I had surgery several years ago, but I still remember the pain, bloating and hormonal swings like it was yesterday. Take care and be good to yourself.
Annie
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