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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 13 January 2006 04:45 pm |
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Dobie wrote: The difference this year? I know the 10 lbs will be gone by end of the month if I can work out (not rocket science, but it is dark so early and sunrise so late that it is hard to find time working full time and walking especially when it is cold).
I just finished my first round of 2006 and I lost 11lbs going into my off days!
I am only four pounds away from my lowest weight that I have weighed since being married 10 years ago. That is 26lbs lost on this diet since September (well, August 28th or so) with several breaks included!
Plus, I am wearing (barely) the same size jeans I wore my senior year in high school! I still have a pair from then and when I am wearing them comfortably, I will be so pleased!
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bedbug82 New Member
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Posted: 13 January 2006 09:20 pm |
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Hi all,
Just wanted to share the good news that I wore my size 8 jeans for the first time in 3 months today! Theyre American Eagle, so theyre really more like ladies size 6! SOOOO excited about that! Everyone at work was shocked cause I havent worn jean since I've worked there. Thats cause I couldn't fit in them. I feel great and really inspired.
So much for unlucky friday the 13th:P
all the best...
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bevie New Member
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Posted: 13 January 2006 10:41 pm |
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Dobie, Great advice! Sure hits home with me (and I'm sure others) I am just starting out with my 1st round of this diet (started Mon. the 9th) and I've always been one to finish whats on my plate, I will definitely do what you suggested. Quite a few times now since starting, I stop when I'm suppose to and have food left on my plate. Really a bad habit to do since we certainly don't need the added temptations! I'm proud to say that since starting the diet, I have only once reached the point of beyond and was "full". Not stuffed, but full. Looking back now, I can honestly say that if it wasn't setting there on my plate, I wouldn't of let my old habit of cleaning my plate kick in.....So Dobie...... Thanks for the great advice for those of us that are creatures of habit!!
Bev
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envirodiva New Member
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Posted: 13 January 2006 11:11 pm |
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Me again, Day 5 is almost over -- as of this morning I had lost 4 pounds in the first 4 days....yeah its water but hey I am not arguing.
Ever tried cottage cheese with lots of black pepper....even when I am not dieting that is how I eat it. Also since the diet said low fat (not fat free) I bought a container of the low fat (2%) and the fat free and mixed them 1/2 and 1/2....brought the fat down to 1% without losing all the flavor.
Had ti eat out twice...it was tuna salad day....so both times I went by subway and got the tuna salad as a salad (double meat) no cheese, with salad veggies and some fat free ranch dressing and spicy mustard. I couldn't finish it but buying "out" didn't seem to affect the weightloss as Subway tries to use low fat in all its stuff so I refuse to feel guilty.
Veggie day has come and gone....woke up with a growly stomache -- drank 2 and half glasses of cold water and went back to sleep -- yeah me...didnt even hardly glance at that bag of cheetos on the table. Ok I looked but I DID NOT TOUCH>
Planning my cheat days already.....big chocolate candy display near the veggie isle (the kind where you bag your own) in the supermarket. I stood there and just "breathed" in the chocolate until I adapted and couldn't smell it anymore. Fat free/sugar free chocolate pudding is definitly on my list for the cheat days.
I wonder where the "chocolate" item was on that food list when I generated my diet.....I could swear it was one of the five food groups ranking as one of the most necessary components of nutrition.
Found an alternative to the "bran" bread which I could not find. Found "Natures' Own whole wheat double fiber" at the store.....lower calorie, fat and carb so I guess it works.
Decided to try the "hoodia" to see if it helps with the little hungries that I get now and then....I will let you know if it works. Checked on the web and the brand I purchased is supposed to be on of the most reliable in terms of using the real thing.
Still wondering about the sugar free jello -- it is no carb, no fat and less than 10 calories a serving.....wonder what it would taste like with the cottage cheese.....
96 pounds to go.......
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shamrock Senior Member

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Posted: 13 January 2006 11:20 pm |
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| Okay, I'm a little discouraged. I weighed myself this morning and gained three pounds back -- I'm still down 14 from the beginning of November which is great, but I'm disappointed about the gain. I have been doing a lot of substituting (more than usual) and went off some when we had friends over to watch football. In addition to all that, I haven't been sleeping which, from everything I've read, is a major contributor to how your body burns fat. So, back to the old drawing board -- I'm going to really stick to it for my next round -- I want to lose about another 10-15.
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Dar2144 New Member
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Posted: 14 January 2006 06:29 pm |
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Hi Shamrock...I'm a little discouraged today too. This is day three of my first "cheat" days. I lost 9 1/2 lbs in 11 days and I was thrilled. I tried not to cheat too much...but I gained back 2 lbs already. I can't wait now to get OFF OF MY CHEAT DAYS. I think I must need the structure. I hear what you gain on the cheat days comes off very quickly when you go back on. I SURE HOPE SO Last edited on 14 January 2006 06:30 pm by Dar2144
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Orcinus New Member

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Posted: 15 January 2006 01:12 am |
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Hello Peter and all the members of this forum,
I've been reading this forum (from the beginning) during my lunch time for about a week now and have enjoyed all the info that I've gained about this diet plan. I signed up today and plan on starting my first cycle on monday. I'm a 47 yr old male who is a career dieter and lifetime weight watchers member. Unfortunately, I kind of fell "off the wagon" a while back (OK, quite a while back... ;)) and I need to lose about 100 Lbs. I've always had good luck with any plan that I've followed, WW, Atkins, SouthBeach, etc. my problem is I can't do it when the rest of the family is eating all the goodies that I can't have. My wife doesn't like WW because of all the measuring and counting. She's currently going thru the preliminarys to have Gastric Bypass surgery this summer and I've convinced her to give this a try before she goes thru with surgery. Frankly, while I expect that I could lose weight when her eating habits are changed, I'm terrified that the problems related to surgery are too much. It's not like you can go back to your old ways after they rearrange your plumbing. So far, I've got both my wife and daughter to agree to give this a fair shot. So it will be a whole household event. Looking forward to talking to all of you. You are our support group! Good Luck to everyone.
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sandy b Member

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Posted: 15 January 2006 02:50 am |
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Orcinus: I think its great that you are trying alternatives for/with your wife to try and avoid surgery. My mother had the same operation about 25 yrs ago. Its been a long road. She currently has her weight under control (finally at 60+) but was at one point AFTER her surgery hovering around 225lbs., which only came off after discovering she has chrones disease. Her complications from the surgery were excessive gas and diaherria ?sp. I think that anyone who thinks surgery is a quick/easy fix is misinformed. It still requires a lifestyle change and is only a solution for people who need to lose a lot of weight quickly for healty reasons.
PS: she had/has baggy skin all over now!
Good luck with WL4I. I think the general concensus is that it is a great diet if you follow it correctly.
Sandy
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Orcinus New Member

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Posted: 15 January 2006 03:09 am |
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Hi Sandy,
I don't think that she's looking at surgery as a quick fix, but she's had problems with most of the plans that we've tried and we're more worried about her survival. My hope is that this will work enough for her to have some energy so that we can start walking more. Over the last year or so she's gotten where she's doing less and less. While the surgery will require a lifestyle change, I'd prefer a voluntary change as opposed to a mandantory one. By trying different diets, you can vary your lifestyle. Once she has the surgery, she's locked into one for life. The good news is that after years of weight gain, the doctor has finally figured out why she's so heavy. Hopefully, her new meds will prevent her from gaining as much weight in the future, but that still leaves getting rid of the weight that she has now.
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sugarplumfairy7 New Member
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Posted: 15 January 2006 02:40 pm |
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Hey envirodiva!
I guess you and I are on the same boat; I have about the same amount of weight to lose. This is going to be one long journey!!
So far 5 days down in the first cycle. Haven't weighed myself yet; I'm dying to know but I am going to wait till the 11 days are over.
Tomorrow is Fruit and Veggie day. Not too exicted about that. Any ideas for what to do with the veggies anyone?
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Orcinus New Member

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Posted: 15 January 2006 04:24 pm |
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| The best 2 answers that I've read were to chunk up some veggies, spritz them with either some olive oil or PAM and spice them then roast them. The other is finding a good vegitarian Chili recipe. There's also vegetable soup as a possibility. I'm sure a google search for "vegitarian recipes" may also turn up some ideas, that, if not iaw FL4I, could be modified to suit.
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letta Member
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Posted: 16 January 2006 04:05 am |
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Hello,
I lost about 10 pounds back in November. Got sick and the weight loss stopped when I got on antibiotics. I made in through Thanksgiving and Christmas with no weight gain. I promised myself to get back on the diet after the holidays and hopefully the antibiotics are out of my system.
I tried something out of curiousity, one of my "library" of diet books claims that you will not gain weight by eating meat with potatoes,rice, corn, peas, carrots, green veggies, & cream, sour cream, butter (these are considered fats not dairy). Just no dairy,fruit, flour or oats, or beans with meats). Eat only one protein at a time. Eggs are neutral and can be eaten with proteins.
So, if I want beans I'll have bean & cheese nachos with some rice and a salad; or a veggie plate with rolls; peanut butter sandwich with honey; cheese toast with fruit..for example. (Don't eat fruit with anything but bread or cheese.)
Well, it worked for me- no weight gain since November. I eat what I want but I don't overeat. I eat some chocolate, some cookies, a brownie etc just not with my meal (unless it's a veggie meal of course). I cheat about once a week. Can't go without my burger! I use common sense too...if you eat a ton of sugar you'll gain weight.
Lots of water...for me that is key. I have confused hunger with thirst for years. I have learned the hard way. Never again... I try to drink 8-10 glasses per day now, after WL4I. The days I don't I gain 2-3 lbs then I flush it out the next day. I weight every day so I can tell if I need to drink more water.
I have not lost weight on the above program but I am glad I have found something that works for me so I don't gain it back. You may try this during the cheat days, it might work. Who knows?
I will start the WL4I again in a few days.
All the best to each of you!
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sugarplumfairy7 New Member
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Posted: 16 January 2006 08:24 am |
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Thank you Ornicus for the soup suggestion!
I just finished my first veggie meal and it wasn't that hard =). I diced up some veggies and put them into a soup. I used a tamarind soup base (also called sinigang) and it tasted awesome (calories were less than 10 so its all good).
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Madcow New Member
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Posted: 16 January 2006 09:50 am |
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Hi all!!!
OK, so I am back on my first day of 2nd serie today and to be honest it's a relief! I have been trying all weekend to not be too bad, but it is difficult!
Anyway, seeing as in my first series last week I only lost a miserable 1lb, this week the plan is the following:
- Stick to the diet much more closely (not so much substitution because I think I was going a bit OTT with that!!)
- Do the walking each day because I didn't do that the first time
- REALLY stick to the diet, even at weekends and eating out (first time round I only did 5 "proper" days!!)
- Spend some real quality "Antonia-time" looking after myself instead of constantly running around and not taking care of me and not sleeping properly...
I'll let you all know how it goes this week! I am feeling VERY motivated though!! Thank God for this site!!
Take care,
Love
Antonia
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nelliebelle New Member
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Posted: 16 January 2006 07:55 pm |
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| For fruit and veggie day -- I eat the fruit first thing in the morning because no matter how much fruit I eat I am hungry after about an hour. Eating it first thing rather than for lunch or dinner seems to help. For veggies -- I eat the potato with butter substitute. After being on low-carb for so many years, a baked (actually microwaved) potato tastes SOOO good. I'm going to try oven-frying some "french fries" next time. For lunch or dinner I have salad with a little vinegarette dressing, some cooked frozen veggies. You can chop up some fresh mushrooms, add some seasoned salt and fry in some Pam. That's yummy. Or treat yourself to some fresh asparagus. Last time I made my own "refried beans" -- put a can of fat-free pinto beans in a frying pan and mash up. Add a little chili powder and/or cumin.
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Isabelle-Claude New Member
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Posted: 17 January 2006 02:51 am |
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:DHello All!
I am all too new at this!
I am on my 5th day with the and I already lost some weight (about 4 lbs), but I have to admit I do it by the book! I do not substitute anything and I do walk 2 day for 30 minutes!
I am a bit afraid because tomorrow and Thursday for Lunch, I have to eat at the restaurant , hope everything will go OK.
Bye guys, have to get my boys at the scouts!
IC
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 17 January 2006 05:36 am |
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Madcow wrote: I'll let you all know how it goes this week! I am feeling VERY motivated though!! Thank God for this site!!
Stay with it, Antonia! Remember, nothing tastes as good as being thin feels! 
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 17 January 2006 05:41 am |
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Isabelle-Claude wrote: I am all too new at this!
Welcome Isabelle
I am a bit afraid because tomorrow and Thursday for Lunch, I have to eat at the restaurant , hope everything will go OK.
What did you do? I have had to eat out a couple of times. The Hamburger is a no brainer and we have done veggie meals at BBQ restarants (veggies and potato) and Souper Salads (big salad bar place) so that was not bad.
I met a friend I am supporting (relationship woes) at Chili's and had a 8 oz chicken breast that I dipped in Salsa. Worked out well! I keep thinking fajitas would be good, but I am not sure what exactly I would gain over just Chicken. Oh, and we did Boston Market Chicken once. Chicken and burgers seem easy enough.
Any tips on what other do at restaraunts?
Dobie
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Isabelle-Claude New Member
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Posted: 17 January 2006 04:07 pm |
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Thank you Dobie:D,
I'll stick with what you said. It's my 6th day today and it's only fruit and veggies.
This is pretty cool! , I am the only "female" in the house with 4 "boys" which naturally don't have any weigh problem! So it's good to be able to talk to someone from time to time about this.
I was reading the "beginning" of this forum, do anybody knows how LuceBianca is doing??
Or is there anyone from the beginning that can tell us if they were able to kept the weight off, for a long period of time, or ??
Anyway looks like I have to work now......talk to you guys later....and I'll let you know about the "scary" lunch at the restaurant:)
IC
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sandy b Member

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Posted: 17 January 2006 08:32 pm |
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sugarplumfairy2: if you like curry I have some wonderful recipes for veg curry (also low fat) which are wonderful. I also fry up some fat free hashbrowns with chopped onion, just spray the pan with butter flavor pam. Let me know if you want the recipes. I didn't realise that beans counted as a veg. Love refried beans!
Orcinus: Sorry if I offended. I wasn't suggesting that it was a quick fix for your wife, but I know others who it has been. It is a difficult decision and is not easy or risk free. Good luck and hopefully she can reach her goal (or be well on the way) prior to her surgery date.
Antonia: I hear ya. Trying to find time to look after yourself is difficult. I have a husband and 3 kids (7, 5 & 1) and if I don't do it, it doesn't get done. I went to a PTA meeting last night and came home to a disaster. Only gone 1 hr! Spent the next 2 cleaning. Sleeping properly is a big one. I find that when I am tired, I eat.
Dobie: excellent advice! Nothing tastes that good!
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 18 January 2006 04:14 pm |
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Isabelle-Claude wrote: Or is there anyone from the beginning that can tell us if they were able to kept the weight off, for a long period of time, or ??
I think of long term as a year after goal. Otherwise you really are "yo-yo"ing. There are three theories that I have seen to keeping off the weight after you lose:
- Peter's recommendation: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/faqs_ETL.html
- The "rules" from FL4I
- Going on and off the 14 day cycle of pre-calculated diet
As Peter has said, you need to find something you can live with. I can't see number 3 above as working long term as your body weight likes to maintain a steady place and quick loss that is not sustained will be followed by quick gain. Likewise, though, quick gain can be lost if you get back on track quickly (before your body adjusts to being heavier.)
So that leaves 1. and 2. above and as Peter noted (again) they are not that far off from each other. Non processed food and not over eating will keep you in the ball park.
I am down 22 from my start after my Holiday 6 week set back. I did not follow the above advice and had way too many goodies! But, I can follow the above until next year when I may again blow it and go back to 3. to lose back to my "happy" weight. I would still like to lose another 25-35lbs for now and I think I can do that by summer no problem!
Anyway looks like I have to work now......talk to you guys later....and I'll let you know about the "scary" lunch at the restaurant:)
Well?
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 18 January 2006 04:17 pm |
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sandy b wrote: if you like curry I have some wonderful recipes for veg curry (also low fat) which are wonderful. I also fry up some fat free hashbrowns with chopped onion, just spray the pan with butter flavor pam. Let me know if you want the recipes.
Yes, please! I have taken a shine to curry of late (traveling twice in 6 months to India is bound to do it to you).
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babylauren New Member
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Posted: 18 January 2006 05:52 pm |
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Hello! I just found this forum today. I am curious about the "download". Do they actually download to your pc, or is it really just joining and getting a user name and being able to access from any computer.
Reason why I ask is that if it's just a "joining" thing, I will do it today at work, however, if you need to actually download to your PC, I will need to wait until tonight because I am unable (not authorized) to download to PCs at work. Get what I mean?? haha!
Thanks and sorry for the stupid question. I know that download speaks the obvious, but I guess I'm hoping that it's simply just a website that you join....
Also, if you do download to your home PC because you have to, can you log into the website from any PC??
Thanks!
Allison 
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shamrock Senior Member

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Posted: 18 January 2006 07:20 pm |
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babylauren wrote: Hello! I just found this forum today. I am curious about the "download". Do they actually download to your pc, or is it really just joining and getting a user name and being able to access from any computer.
Reason why I ask is that if it's just a "joining" thing, I will do it today at work, however, if you need to actually download to your PC, I will need to wait until tonight because I am unable (not authorized) to download to PCs at work. Get what I mean?? haha!
Thanks and sorry for the stupid question. I know that download speaks the obvious, but I guess I'm hoping that it's simply just a website that you join....
Also, if you do download to your home PC because you have to, can you log into the website from any PC??
Thanks!
Allison 
It's not technically a "download." Gaining access to the site gives you the information that you can view and print from any computer. I joined on a Monday morning so I have the site as one of my favorites on my work and home computer.
Good luck with the diet. This is the first thing that has worked for me in a long time! After a post-holiday slump, I'm back on the program on day 3 and feeling great!
Good Luck!
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Orcinus New Member

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Posted: 18 January 2006 07:54 pm |
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Orcinus: Sorry if I offended. I wasn't suggesting that it was a quick fix for your wife, but I know others who it has been.
No Problem Sandy, no offence taken. I was just trying to explain that she's tried most of the major diets out there and had limited success. I think at this point she's getting desperate about her size. The good news is the doctor has finally figured out a medical reason for her weight gain. For years they just told her to eat less. Never mind that she isn't that big a eater. She has a real weakness for ice cream but doesn't have it all that often. I eat alot more than she does, but she is the one that puts on the pounds. They finally realized that she has a thyroid problem which they are now treating. Although she'd about given up on diets, I've convinced her that with the meds treating her condition, maybe she could lose more than a few pounds with a diet and then keep it off. I think the attempt is worth it before going through with the surgery.
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Isabelle-Claude New Member
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Posted: 18 January 2006 08:57 pm |
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Hello!
On this nice rainy day ....midle of January in PC and rain  
[color=red, strength=4)">Wow!! Dodie, way to go
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]I wanted to know because I have been "dieting" for the last 6 years, since the birth of my 3rd son and stopping smocking, so being on a diet/watching what I eat, is not really a problem (I am actually starting to have rabbit ears! :P) It's just sometimes I get tired when there is no results or so little. People have been telling me it's because I have a "major" slow metabolism!!
But with this one WL4I. it looks like it's working, last night, just after 6 days I was down 6.5 pound. I asked my Hubby to come and weight himself to make sure the "thing" was not broken!!!!!! I couldn't believe it.
Lunch at the restaurant:
Well it went A1, I did what Dodie said and went for the salad bar. It was good except I took mustard/honey dressing instead of plain Italian......oups, my first "faux pas" since I am on this diet.
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on this diet
]I am asking this, because a banana/chocolate/caramel cake is baking in my oven at this instance:chew:....and I don't feel like eating it! As a matter of fact I don't feel like eating any sweets at all! Before I would have lick the bowl!!!! Which is very good because sweet/sugar is giving me migraine!
But this brings me to yet another point......What happens if you do not stop WL4I on day 12, 13 and 14 . Because something is finally working I don't want to stop, I am afraid I will literally starve myself or "over" eat on those 3 days......anybody please !!!
How did you handle the 3 day cheat??? I saw that some of you were looking forward to the 3 day, even have meals or sweets already plan, I have to admit for me it's the complete opposite!
Thanks guys....
IC
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Isabelle-Claude New Member
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Posted: 18 January 2006 09:14 pm |
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Orcinus wrote: I was just trying to explain that she's tried most of the major diets out there and had limited success. I think at this point she's getting desperate about her size. The good news is the doctor has finally figured out a medical reason for her weight gain. For years they just told her to eat less. Never mind that she isn't that big a eater. She has a real weakness for ice cream but doesn't have it all that often. I eat a lot more than she does, but she is the one that puts on the pounds. They finally realized that she has a thyroid problem which they are now treating. Although she'd about given up on diets, I've convinced her that with the meds treating her condition, maybe she could lose more than a few pounds with a diet and then keep it off. I think the attempt is worth it before going through with the surgery.
My heat goes out to you and your wife, Orcinus!
Is she starting the WL4I? That should help big time in conjunction with her medicine for the thyroid. I have seen my girlfriend gain over a 100 pound and every diet wouldn't work (She did WW for 1 year and lost one 1 pound!). After 3 years they finally realized, it was her thyroid!!!! Now she is losing slowly but steady.
Good luck and hope she can be OK before the surgery.
IC
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Orcinus New Member

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Posted: 19 January 2006 04:58 am |
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| Hi IC, I assume you didn't read my earlier post, my wife, daughter and I all started WL4I this last monday. While it's still early, so far it's going well. We haven't weighed ourselves since starting (we're waiting till the end of the cycle) but we haven't been hungry between meals and we're finding that most of the foods are palatable. The biggest problem so far has been with my daughter who works nights in a fast food place. While she hasn't been tempted to cheat, being around food, she is having a problem with our food choices and trying to schedule her meals. We may have to create a different menu just for her. I'm happy to hear about your friend. My wife hasn't been on her meds for very long so it's too early to tell if it's helping but she's been fighting the battle for probably 30 years, it's a shame it took the doctor's this long to identify her problem.
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Madcow New Member
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Posted: 19 January 2006 10:40 am |
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Hi Guys!!
Well I am on day 4 now and feeling great!!!
I did have a REALLY weird thing happen to me, and I was wondering if anyone else had it too.
Basically after 2 days on the diet (second series in a row), on the Wednesday (day # 3), I got up and felt like I had all this pent-up nervous energy and was feeling really uneasy and on-edge. Anyway, then, after about 2 hours, I started to feel a massive chill creep over all my body, my bones ached and I was actually shivering, and I had this weird urge to constantly stretch my back and arms... it was so strange. All day I was just freezing and could hardly eat. I thought I was coming down with the flu. In the evening I had some camomile tea with 2 spoonfuls of honey, a piece of fruit and went to bed, dreading waking up in the morning with full-blown flu.
The next morning I woke up and felt... fantastic! How strange is that??? Was it some sort of detox my body went through from being on the diet for about 2 weeks and after all the Christmas/NY damage? Has anyone else experienced this at all?
The weirdest thing is that since then I have just been feeling better and better every day, and I am totally satisfied on the diet, not craving anything.. I even had my girlfriends round last night and they all ate crisps (=potato chips to Americans) and drank loads of beer, while I ate some asparagus tips, some gherkins and some cherry tomatoes (I was supposed to have fruit plate for dinner) and drank water! And I was totally happy doing this!!! Usually I would have been fretting about the crisps and beer and really wanting some!
Just wanted to know if anyone else had experienced this at all!!!
I’m going to post this on the other board too. Just in case anyone thinks I have gone nuts and posted it twice...!!
Isabelle Claude, bienvenue sur le site, j’espère que le régime te fonctionne aussi bien qu’à nous, si tu veux chatter avec une WL4I en Français, n’hésites pas à m’envoyer un email !
Bisoux,
Antonia
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Dar2144 New Member
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Posted: 19 January 2006 10:09 pm |
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Hi Everyone...Hope you are all doing well. IC as far as NOT taking your cheat days...I know how you feel. I was very much looking forward to my cheat days even though I lost 91/2 lbs on my first 11 days. When the days came I was acutally very scared. If I understand the diet correctly...it is to your benefit to get more calories in your body for a few days so that your metabolism stays tricked. Also..one of the reasons this diet does work is because you can see a light at the end of the tunnel every 11 days..so it makes it bearable to continue to diet. Anyway...I gained 4 lbs on my 3 days off..but I was very bad. I not only lost the 4 lbs..but I lost yet another 2 in the first 3 days back on the diet. So in actuality I lost 11 1/2 lbs in17 days. THAT IS AMAZING. I only have 30 lbs to lose so I got a great start...and I got to cheat my butt off for 3 days. So take my story for what its worth and do what you want..but I feel the days off..although I probably took it to extreme and will not take it that far next time..are very essential to continue to lose on this diet. Good luck and maybe someone else will have other advice for you.
Dar
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sandy b Member

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Posted: 19 January 2006 11:33 pm |
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orcinus: I new a girl, years ago, who also had a thyroid problem. They operated on the thyroid and she "naturally" lost weight and has kept it off. She has two small scars on her neck, but apart from that is quiet happy - and now healthy. Hopefully they can also fix the problem with your wife's thyroid as easily.
dobi: Love the Baigan Bharta. The Veg Curry isn't bad. This is what I eat on my fruit/veg days.
Biagan Bharta:
2 eggplants (med size)
1T ghee
2-3 serrano chilies, (green skinny ones), seeded and diced
1/4 t asafetida (hing)
1-2 tsp cumin seeds
2 t ground corriander
1t salt
2T chopped fresh cillantro
1 cup purred canned tomatoes
1-2 t garam masala
Bake eggplant 40 min @ 425F (on sheet and poke with fork). Cool to handle, scoop out pulp (and seeds). I like to puree this, but mushing it would work too. Heat ghee on medium, add cumin, chilies, and hing. Cook until fragrant and seeds darken. Add eggplant, salt and corriander, cook 10 min. Add tomatoe, cilantro and garam masala, heat to hot and serve. I like this with cooked hash browns.
Veg Curry:
1 T oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 med onion, hchopped
3 celery stalks sliced
1 small apple, peeled, cored and chopped
1t chili powder
1t ground ginger
1t tumeric
1/2 c green beans, chopped
3/4 c cauliflower, small florets
1/2 c carrots, sliced
1 small potatoe, peeled and chopped
1 t tomatoe paste
1T raisins
Heat oil and add garlic, onion, celery and apple for 5 min. Add spices and cook gently for 1 minute. Add rest + 1.5 c water. Boil and simmer covered for 35-40 min.
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Isabelle-Claude New Member
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Posted: 20 January 2006 04:44 am |
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Hello Dar,
IC as far as NOT taking your cheat days...I know how you feel. I was very much looking forward to my cheat days even though I lost 91/2 lbs on my first 11 days. When the days came I was actually very scared. If I understand the diet correctly...it is to your benefit to get more calories in your body for a few days so that your metabolism stays tricked. Also..one of the reasons this diet does work is because you can see a light at the end of the tunnel every 11 days..so it makes it bearable to continue to diet
Thanks.....I know it's just hard to stop after a good start, isn't it
My 2 restaurant lunch went well, 1) salad bar 2) took a tuna/panini with a veggie salad (I've put the tuna on top of the salad and ditch the bread! ) So that wasn't bad at all.
4 days left to go before the cheat days.....more I think about it I think I am going to treat myself with Sushi! :chew:That's going to be my big cheat...the rest will be small portions of whatever my sons are eating...I'll try not to do a separate meal for me (that's going to be hard!).
Anyway thanks guys for your support!
:)IC
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graysunday New Member
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Posted: 21 January 2006 12:07 am |
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I was wondering if someone could help me. I bought this diet last year and just copied a diet that I thought I could live with. Anyhoo, I like all my choices except the tuna salad....lf mayo is just disgusting.
Anyone have a good tuna salad recipe, or alternatively, could someone let me know what the other choices besides the tuna salad are?
Thanks!
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 23 January 2006 07:47 pm |
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graysunday wrote: I was wondering if someone could help me. I bought this diet last year and just copied a diet that I thought I could live with. Anyhoo, I like all my choices except the tuna salad....lf mayo is just disgusting.
Anyone have a good tuna salad recipe, or alternatively, could someone let me know what the other choices besides the tuna salad are?
My wife loves Tuna and could not take the LowFat Mayo either. I wish I could say we found a recipe for it, but instead we ditched it for another of the proteins.
Which other Proteins do you have on there now?
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shamrock Senior Member

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Posted: 23 January 2006 08:59 pm |
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| When I wasn't in the mood for tuna, I just substituted a different protein -- it didn't seem to disrupt the weight loss.
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 23 January 2006 09:26 pm |
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I fell off the wagon. 
This weekend we went to visit friends and we were determined to be good. We did for the first two meals Saturday...and then we got back on it today. :P
You see, they fixed steak and ALL the trimmings and as badly as I wanted to just eat a bit of steak and potato and pretend that was my roast beef sandwich, I ate the salad, the potato, the steak and the garlic bread. I mean I was stuffed!
Started off that meal being good, but by the end I can't begin to figure out how or why I kept going. I hated to leave a bunch and seem ungrateful, but honestly, I went over board even beyond that.
Breakfast at the hotel for me was not bad...but again, not great. I had half a banana and apple which is just fine. It was the half of a cinnamin roll that I should have left off. And then we ordered Pizza for lunch. My wife did not try to seem to want to avoid it so I caved (not hard for me to do.) I ate too much there too. I should have stopped at two peices...not four and a half. But Pappa Johns (and who were we kidding by this point anyway? Days six and seven were gone).
We even stopped on the way back into town for icecream. Finished it by 4p and that is all I had for the day. No supper.
Only gained half a pound, but the guilt lingers. I know better and should have done more in moderation on the dinner and lunch. Still, I know that today being back on the diet, I will lose a couple more pounds this week and my resolve to be good on my off days (despite being my wifes birthday) will be better.
I hope.
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shamrock Senior Member

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Posted: 23 January 2006 10:18 pm |
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Dobie:
I wouldn't sweat the weight gain. I fell off in a major way with the week beginning Christmas until mid January -- was in a post-holiday "funk" and couldn't seem to get myself together. However....I'm on day 8 of my days back and sneaked a peek at the scale and have lost my gained weight plus a few!
My feeling is, if I'm away, or going out, I'm going to enjoy myself, but I get RIGHT back on the next day -- don't wait until Monday or the beginning of the month, or whatever....
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sandy b Member

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Posted: 23 January 2006 11:06 pm |
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Dobi: Don't beat yourself up over your slip. Apart from the pizza, it doesn't sound that bad, although probably terrible to you. We have all done it but it is good to think of why you did it. Were you just really hungry; was it impossible to eat as scheduled; etc. I slip too, but when I do I get the "well, I've already fallen off, may as well take advantage before I start again" mentality. Half a pound isn't too bad and really, its probably water from the salty & sweet foods. It will be back off before you know it.
Sandy
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Madcow New Member
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Posted: 24 January 2006 09:58 am |
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Dobie, please don't worry, I have TOTALLY fallen off the wagon this weekend, my husband's cousin was here and we started eating and drinking on the Saturday at 10pm and didn't stop until the Sunday night! Plus on the Saturday day I was away snowboarding all day and couldn't eat my allocated meals, ended up just having a cheese baguette for breakfast and 2 squares of chocolate for lunch... on the bonus side I was boarding non-stop for 7 hours so probably worked it off, but on the downside I just hate not sticking to it!!!
The worst bit is that with a little dedication and will-power I could have stuck to the diet, but I just couldn't say no to the goat's cheese salad followed by pesto pasta and then chocolate cake that was on the menu on Sat night!! And then of course I was out drinking all night until 7.30am, which probably didn't make matters any better.
So anyway, I think my message here is don't worry, if you think you did bad, please re-read all the above.
Oh, AND, this morning I am wearing my JEANS!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't has any sneak-peak so I haven't a clue how much I have lost, but if I can fit into my jeans then it can't be bad!!!!
Just needed to share all that!!! I am buzzing with happiness!!!
Take care and good luck with the diet!!
xoxoxox
Antonia
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graysunday New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2006 12:45 am |
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Thanks for your suggestions. I thought for some reason that the diet was bought for only 3 months, but it let me log in yesterday and now it says I have the diet for life. So, that's pretty cool.
Anyhoo, I decided to trade the tuna salad for the ham with pineapple. I've had the ham cooking all day in a crockpot at home, so I hope it's real good.
Isn't it weird how you never get hungry on this diet? I was doing a diet before this where I was eating every 3 hours (breakfast 400cal, snack 200cal, lunch 400cal, snack 200cal, dinner 400cal and treat 50cal) and I was starving all the time! Weird, because I feel like I eat even less on this diet.
I ain't complaining...if it works, it works. 
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Madcow New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2006 09:51 am |
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Graysunday, I totally agree, it is weird how you don't get hungry on this diet!!!! I mean aside from the fact that you eat weird foods like copious amounts of cottage cheese and nothing else at times, I could easily forget I am on a diet at all!!
I was doing Weight Watchers before this and I used to get hungrier than what I do on this diet! I was really apprehensive at first because I thought that I would get starving, forexample when the meal is just a milkshake or whatever, but that hasn't happened!
I am wearing a skirt today that I totally could not get on the other day! Admittedly I can only just zip it up to the top, but still, it's great to just be able to vary my wardrobe a bit as opposed to always having to wear the same #%@&! baggy trousers!!! I have so many nice clothes in my closet that I didn't throw out because I was determined to lose the weight, and now I'm so glad I didn't! I also refused to go and get myself any clothes in the bigger sizes and forced myself to miserably wear the same 2 pairs of baggy trousers day in day out, just to push myself to lose the flab!!
Thank God for this diet!!
Take care
Antonia
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Dar2144 New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2006 01:13 pm |
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| Hi Madcow...I agree...my great clothes that i haven't been able to wear in the last 2 years are my inspiration. I have dropped an entire size already and am wearing some of them again. It's like getting NEW CLOTHES ;-) Unfortunately I did get rid of a lot of my smaller pants...so I am buying some cheap ones at the moment. Don't want to spend a lot on them because I WON'T BE IN THEM LONG :yumm: I put on a pair of jeans yesterday..they were sooo big that I was able to just pull them down without unsnapping or unzipping them. THOSE JEANS WILL NEVER BE WORN AGAIN..YEAHHHHHH. I have a total of 30 lbs to lose. This is the 10th day on my second cylce and I have lost 13 lbs so far..I am THRILLED with this diet. Tomorrow start my cheat days. I am excited about them..but nervouse about them as well. I will do better though then I did last time. I really ate a lot of chocolate last time..BUT..the break is what helps me stay on this. Three days off and then I am ready to start again. I LOVE THIS DIET..and trust me. I never thought I would use love and diet in the same sentence :P Keep up the good work everyone.
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shamrock Senior Member

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Posted: 25 January 2006 04:19 pm |
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| I also agree that this is the easiest diet I've ever been on. I don't think I'm eating any less than I was before, I'm just eating differently and am walking instead of doing the elliptical -- it's amazing how this diet has jump started my metabolism again! I'm also fitting into clothes that I haven't been able to wear in a long time. My next weigh in is on Friday and I feel I'm beginning to get close to my goal of 30 lbs. -- I'll keep you posted.
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Madcow New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2006 04:42 pm |
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My weigh-in is on Friday too, and I'm really looking forwards to seeing how much I have lost!
I have only done 2 sets so far so I am not expecting to lose it all this soon, but this is defo the best diet I have ever done! It's so fulfilling to know that you are back in control! And to actually see the results! I was on another diet forum and listening to this girl tell of her diet and it sounded so complicated!! Loads of weighing and calorie counting and prohibited foods and medication! This is so liberating and easy!
I'll post on Friday and let y'all know how much I have lost by then!
I have about another 22lbs to lose and I can't wait to get there! Hopefully just in time for the summer!
Take care
Antonia
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Dobie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 25 January 2006 07:44 pm |
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Thanks for the kind words, everyone and congrats to you guys posting on your successes! That is awesome!! Wearing good clothes and best of all, I can just read the smiles on your faces! Keep it up!
I was very surprised that I was up two pounds today which confuses me because I have been back on track since Monday. The good news is I am not discouraged because I made the decision to cheat and I am happy to (well, not happy, but resigned to) pay the price.
Just had to share. I know it will come off soon or even next session, but as I said, it sure makes me determined to be good on my days off!
My goal is to lose 13 pounds from here by end of March, and I can't see NOT making that! :)
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Dar2144 New Member
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Posted: 25 January 2006 10:33 pm |
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Hi Dobe...you will make it FOR SURE...don't even worry about it. I have lost 13 in two sessions. My cheat days start tomorrw...excited about them..but nervous too.I gained 4 lbs back on my first "cheat"..but lost it all the first day back on the diet. I find what makes this diet so doable is that you see a light at the end of the tunnel every 11 days. I love that. HOWEVER..i will be better this time with my "cheat" I was really really bad last time:chew:..lol..these faces make me laugh. Anyway..don't worry about the 2 lbs..that is nothing..it will be gone in no time.
Dar
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sandy b Member

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Posted: 25 January 2006 11:59 pm |
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Its great to see everyone doing so well. I have been on it for a while now (just started my 4th cycle). Only down 8 lbs and its is probably because the variety isn't there so I will sneak a cracker here and there; a bite of this and that, etc. Actually if I see another dish of cottage cheese, I think I'll puke! I need to try harder and stick to it better. What is a substitute for cottage cheese? I tried to eat it with italian spices and also with cinnamon, but I just can't stand it anymore :?. Any ideas?
Sandy
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Dar2144 New Member
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Posted: 26 January 2006 12:14 am |
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| Hi Sandy....I don't have another recipe for you for cottage cheese....I happen to love the stuff..i know...i know..I'm weird:P Why don't you just not choose it for one of your foods. I felt the same way on my first cycle about tuna..so this time around I didn't pick it and didn't have to worry about it. If you look in the diet handbook there is a place where it shows you the substitutions Cottage cheese is a protien...so you can sub another one for it if you'd like. I have done a lot of subbing this time since now I found out that your menu is basically a guide. I |