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Dobie
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Posted: 13 January 2007 02:49 am |
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Kaz wrote: Hi Guys! Am just curious to know if there are any other Hyperglyceimics out there (don't know if I spelt that right??!) I am, and on the fruit day I got the shakes soooo bad I ended up having to snack on a handful of peanuts and a slice of bread, otherwise felt like collapsing.... Fruit just doesn't fill me up the way it should. If there are any of you out there with the same thing, what do you do on those days?
My wife is and struggles. She eats beans and she said startch veggies like potatos and corn help her. If it gets really bad then she eats lean protien like chicken or turkey.
I feel foggy, but not nearly as bad as she does.
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Size10/12in2007
New Member
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Posted: 13 January 2007 06:03 pm |
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Today is day 6 of fruits and veggies for me and i just had vegeable soup for breakfast and i feel really satisfied. I guess i have to occupy myself with other things today. I would go window shopping with the kids to get me out of the house. I want to be cheat free, so i can get good results by the end of my first week.
Have a great on plan day everyone.
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Kaz
New Member
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Posted: 14 January 2007 01:05 am |
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HI guys!!! Dobie, thankyou so much for you reply.... You make so much sense, I thnk I really look up to you and you wife! My friend just gave me a copy of one of her old menu plans from the old version (and all this time.... I never knew)!!!  She can't remember if the rules are the same as the new version though... Can you give me some tips??? I really do prefer the old one!!! Feels more normal to me... The vegie chilli in the recipes thread has beans in it... Is this allowed or just been added to suit? Thanx Heaps!!!!!
Karina 
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eskie1
New Member
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Posted: 14 January 2007 01:47 am |
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Hi everyone,
Congrats on joining this diet I have been on and off it since Jan.06 and it works. The hardest thing I found was all that water drinking.
Rocky 
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archcatz
New Member
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Posted: 14 January 2007 04:40 am |
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Hello Everyone,
I am quite excited to tell you all that I lost four and a half pounds & 1% of my body fat on my first eleven days !!! I did not cheat at all, except maybe the water part.
This diet has been good to be on, apart from results, I get to have cheese and nuts everyday.
I hope to keep the diet till i lose the next 25 pounds.
To all those who dont see results in the first few days, hang on for the full 11 days!!
Catherine
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doublet
New Member
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Posted: 15 January 2007 02:30 am |
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Kaz wrote: Hi Guys! Am just curious to know if there are any other Hyperglyceimics out there (don't know if I spelt that right??!) I am, and on the fruit day I got the shakes soooo bad I ended up having to snack on a handful of peanuts and a slice of bread, otherwise felt like collapsing.... Fruit just doesn't fill me up the way it should. If there are any of you out there with the same thing, what do you do on those days?
Hi Kaz,
instead of bread and peanuts, how about trying bananas? They are a little more starchy and are still a fruit, so they are only cheating a little! Pears are good I found for filling me up too. I try to avoid bread - I have found that it is EVIL and the scourge of my weight!
Nice to see a fellow antipodean here - I am not far from you, just over the Murray!
As for the old diet, from reading the posts, it is not any better than the new one, just different. And, I wouldn't think that the people who created it (does anyone know anything about them, by the way!?), would go to a worse solution from a better one - upgrades are usually supposed to be better!
Good luck to all the newbies!
Teresa
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Dobie
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 15 January 2007 05:45 am |
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Kaz wrote: She can't remember if the rules are the same as the new version though... Can you give me some tips??? I really do prefer the old one!!! Feels more normal to me... The vegie chilli in the recipes thread has beans in it... Is this allowed or just been added to suit? Thanx Heaps!!!!!
Karina
Thank you for the kind words.
Rules are the same in both. I have compared and really no differences there.
Beans are not explicitly prohibited in the older version and have not hampered us, but I would have to confess it more likely suited than by the letter of the laws. If there are particular rules you are asking about, let me know and I can IM you the answers.
Dobie
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sbuch
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Posted: 16 January 2007 10:58 pm |
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Hello All,
I downloaded this program for the first time almost 2 years ago and I had extreme success. I lost 12lbs the first cycle, 10lbs the second cycle, and 9lbs the third cylce. That was with no walking. The diet definitely works! After the 3 cycles, I kind of fell off. I have gradually gained the weight back, plus 20 more poubds. Now, I am trying to get back on the wagon. I started the diet again on the 9th, but I slipped up over the weekend. I had lost 5lbs as of Friday, the 13th. I am thinking about starting over completely on Monday. I just need a little extra motivation. It is very difficult for me because my husband likes to eat fattening foods. Although he tries to support me, he is really hindering me and I don't want to force him to do what I am doing. I am just not strong enough yet to do it by myself.
What do you all suggest I do about my situation at home?
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Dobie
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Posted: 17 January 2007 04:42 am |
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Ouch! All I can say is you have to do this for yourself, sbuch. I know it is hard, but as we have said here before, nothing tastes as good as thin feels!!
When to start is easy...Keep going and don't restart. If you fall off, keep going. You know you can do it...you have done it before. Think about how much MORE you will enjoy these foods that you hubby eats...as the size you dream about being! They will still be there when you are thin...but you will enjoy them more!
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archcatz
New Member
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Posted: 17 January 2007 08:58 pm |
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The Cheat days were quite difficult. one the first day the only heavy food I had was thai for dinner, I had cereal and cottage cheese in the morning. I felt like throwing up after I had the rice&curry, i suspected that I overate, but the next day I felt the same way with another carb food.
I am not sure if it was the guilt that I gained half the weight I lost or if my body could not adjust to the sudden carb shock. I started my next cycle one day early, cause I was so freaked out. i lost the weight I gained in the cheat day on the first two days though.
is there anyone who went through the same thing?
All the best to kaz, Doublet, size10/12 , sbuch, princessYes ...kept your accomplishments posted.!!!
Dobie, I had a question for you since you have been on this forum for more than a year...how long have you been following the diet ? do you give yourself a break after a few months?Do you still lose weight after months on the same food? also, thank you for your support to all the new member, specially.:-)
Catherine
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Dobie
Distinguished Member
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Posted: 18 January 2007 06:12 pm |
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archcatz wrote: is there anyone who went through the same thing?
Hey, Catherine! Yes, I always go through the same thing. this is why Zandor's loss of 14 lbs with only 2 lbs on the cheat days impresses me. He really did what was envisioned.
I do what you did which is gain back half the weight and spend 2-4 days losing it back. I am absolutely conviced that it is because of the low levels of salt and sugar on this diet that we gain so much and lose it quicly...we are retaining water from the foods that we choose.
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Dobie
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Posted: 18 January 2007 06:32 pm |
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archcatz wrote: Dobie, ...how long have you been following the diet ? do you give yourself a break after a few months?
I have been on and off of the foods for 16 months now. I lose weight and then I relax. My eating causes weight gain and so after a time I go back on. I have definately seen my weight fluctuate, but the awesome part is that I am bouncing at a new level each time! I started at 257 and "relaxed" at 230 for a few months. I gained around 15 and I went back on and "relaxed" again at 230. This took me through my first 6-8 months and I decided I was not happy around 230 so I did the same to 220 and now I am around 210.
For me, the unfortunate part of "relaxing" is that even though I tell myself I am going to "be good", I am not. Here is what I should do: Eat four meals a day, stop when satisfied, drink my water and exercise. That is my maintenacne plan that I believe works when I do it. However, what I end up doing is overeating and snacking because the food is around.
Case in point: I was on back to back weigh loss competitions at work. I needed to lose 10 lbs in 30 days in October and then 11 lbs through the holidays by end of year. I made them both and was very happy at 207 lbs. However, I felt so deprived at the end that I went on a two week binge going back up near 217. At that point, I decided to get back on the diet for 6 weeks to try and win another weight loss competition. I have to get to 192 by end of Feb. The good news? I was at 208 this morning on day four of my first of three cycles. That is not real weight los, but was the previous then real weight gain? My clothes were tighter and my ring did not fall off like it does now, so I was bigger, I know. But it seems to be mostly water weight (which means my final goal needs to be 5 or 10 below where I plan to maintain as I will gain that back when I get on a variety of foods.)
To sum up, yes, I still follow this, but I have lots of breaks to FULLY enjoy eating which I do love!
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Dobie
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Posted: 18 January 2007 06:34 pm |
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Do you still lose weight after months on the same food?
Absolutely! And we do substitute liberally, but we know what works for us and we maintain with that. I don't tend to let myself lose off the foods because I eat more and definately don't eat only veggies, fruits, and lean proteins. I do that MUCH more often, but still not as I should.
also, thank you for your support to all the new member, specially.:-)
You are most kind. 
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annelies
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Posted: 21 January 2007 09:57 pm |
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Hi everyone!
Im starting FL4I tomorrow, and I'm really curious to see what will happen. I'm not overweight, just want to lose 12 pounds. I have some questions though. Is it possible to substitute turkey for chicken and vice versa? Can I add veggies to a chicken/turkey meal? I have to work the whole day tomorrow, and im going to have to go to the toilet all the time coz of all the water I will be drinking, which is heaps annoying coz I work in a store :) I'm also taking cold chicken with me for lunch, LOL, I'm gonna love this diet.
Thanks a lot!
Annelies
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TheQuietRioter
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Posted: 25 January 2007 01:24 am |
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Hi everyone,
Just like a lot here I am considering this diet plan. I have 35lbs to loose. I am 5' 9" and about 165lbs.
My main question is, are these positive posts for real? I have searched the web reviews on this diet, and have seen a lot forums state that the people leaving posts on this site are paid by the company, and that the diet is a scam. Is this true?
Thank You
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doublet
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Posted: 25 January 2007 06:27 am |
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Dear The Quiet Rioter (like the name )
Speaking for myself, I can assure you that no-one has paid me to leave posts here. I totally believe the positive posts are real, based on my own experience, and my expereience of others that I have conversed with here on this site.
A healthy dose of skeptiscism is good, however, please don't let that alone stop you from trying this out. It is a good, albeit strict diet, and like every diet on the planet, not for everyone. If you think it might work for you, please give it a try. Diets always fail if the mindset of the dieter is such that they are not really willing to change their habits - the diet is not the reason the dieter loses weight, just the vehicle they use to get to where they want. It is the dieter, not the diet, that determines the success rate.
Having said that, I recommend this diet, it is safe, albeit at times can be a bit boring, and can teach you some good habits about what is healthy for you. My lesson that I got from this is that bread, spuds pasta are my enemy... even though I love them to bits! So, if you decide that you are willing to change your habits and thinking around food (as that is the kicker, and is the true determinate of success), get stuck in, follow it to the letter (yes, the water IS important!) and don't overeat, and you will see some great results.
Good Luck from Australia
Teresa
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doublet
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Posted: 25 January 2007 06:36 am |
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annelies wrote: Is it possible to substitute turkey for chicken and vice versa? Can I add veggies to a chicken/turkey meal? I have to work the whole day tomorrow, and im going to have to go to the toilet all the time coz of all the water I will be drinking, which is heaps annoying coz I work in a store :) I'm also taking cold chicken with me for lunch, LOL, I'm gonna love this diet.
Hi Annelies,
I think turkey could be substituted for chicken etc, I think you get into trouble when you start substituting something completely different, say steak for fish! I think it is in the spirit of the *type* of protein/carbohydrate etc. As for the water, over time your body actually gets used to drinking more water and you stop going to the loo so much! I think the veggies to a chicken meal is breaking the rules though, as they are carbohydrate and the chicken or turkey is protein - sorry! The point of the diet is to give you a certain mix of % of carbs and protein, therein lies the key.
Having said that, I always believe that if you don't have that one little piece of vegie or whatever you would murder someone, go ahead and have it, otherwise you will just binge out on it later.
good luck!
Teresa
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Peter
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Posted: 25 January 2007 06:51 am |
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TheQuietRioter wrote: My main question is, are these positive posts for real? I have searched the web reviews on this diet, and have seen a lot forums state that the people leaving posts on this site are paid by the company, and that the diet is a scam. Is this true?
Any form of advertising in forum posts is strictly forbidden by the Posting Guidelines and anyone found posting anything promotional is banned from the forum and their posts deleted.
We appreciate the help of forum members to call such posts to our attention.
Peter
caloriesperhour.com
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Dobie
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Posted: 25 January 2007 05:43 pm |
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My main question is, are these positive posts for real? I have searched the web reviews on this diet, and have seen a lot forums state that the people leaving posts on this site are paid by the company, and that the diet is a scam. Is this true?
I can't find anything supporting what you are saying and frankly, I can't help but be taken aback. I WISH I could become the Jarod of this diet and make thousands for just getting healthy, but alas, i had to pay to get it done.
I do this to help others and I enjoy the encouragement. I too understand your skepticism, but what is it based on?
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TheQuietRioter
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Posted: 25 January 2007 07:18 pm |
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Dobie wrote: My main question is, are these positive posts for real? I have searched the web reviews on this diet, and have seen a lot forums state that the people leaving posts on this site are paid by the company, and that the diet is a scam. Is this true?
I can't find anything supporting what you are saying and frankly, I can't help but be taken aback. I WISH I could become the Jarod of this diet and make thousands for just getting healthy, but alas, i had to pay to get it done.
I do this to help others and I enjoy the encouragement. I too understand your skepticism, but what is it based on?
I guess I just qestion it because I have never heard of the calorie shifting method before, and I am having a difficult time finding info on the web about it to back up the "theory."
If I remember correctly...I believe I went to diet-blog and read up about this diet, but I bacame skeptical when I saw the posts were only from 2005, and I couldn't find anything more recent. This is the only site I have found that has recent posts on it. Some other sites I visited were similar as well. Nothing recent.
I don't have a lot of extra money right now because of all the medical bills I have been paying off, so $39.00 is a lot of money for me right now, even though I can put it on a credit card, that's just extra in interest later. I have got to get this weight off of my belly because of my hypertension. So, I guess I am desperate.
Anyway...I am glad this site is well guarded. It's good to know falsies are not allowed.
My skeptisim is slowly going away now, so THANK YOU!
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Dobie
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Posted: 25 January 2007 09:58 pm |
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Yes, the leap in putting down the money is always a big hurdle...at least it is a one time fee if you do choose to do it.
For others who may not follow the other thread where I posted back to you, http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=2653&forum_id=3&jump_to=31718, I feel this diet's principles are more than just the calorie shifting. It fits in to others as I said there.
But I do believe in "calorie shifting" from this standpoing. I believe our bodies are resistent to change. I had a lady tell me that I need to maintain my new weight for one year before my body will accept it and stop trying to go back to where it is. i have seen this over the course of weeks. I am having trouble getting below 208 right now despite working out each day and being on this diet. I think my body is resisting and I need to get beyond that to lose more.
Another example is I think our muscles are lazy. I think that if we work out the same way each day, our muscles get used to it and benefit less as they become more efficient in what one is doing. For example, if you lift weights the same weight and reps, it will benefit your muscles less than if you cycle in heavier weights with fewer reps, lighter weights with more reps, and a ladder approach. Changing it up every month or two really seems to keep it learning, guessing and growing. So the calorie theory may be more than marketing fluff.
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Tonia80
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Posted: 6 February 2007 07:37 am |
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Hello Everyone,
I just joined and I started WL4I two days ago. I am doing the diet generator. I hope to be successful with this diet. I have tried so many diets and I just hope that this is the one for me. I weigh 185lbs. My goal weight is140. I could use some encouraging support. I work the grave yard shift so I hope that working nights won't hender my weight loss. Over all I think I am gonna love this diet.
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yohkos
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Posted: 9 February 2007 08:17 pm |
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How are you doing working the graveyard with this diet? I work two jobs and will have figure a way to bring everything to work. I know I will probably not get all four meals in, but will try very hard. Like you I have about 35 lbs to lose. Good luck and let us know how you are doing. This Sunday is start day.
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Tonia80
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Posted: 9 February 2007 10:34 pm |
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Hello,
I am doing very good. I have lost an unimaginable 7 pounds in 6 days. I can't believe it. I thought it would be hard with working the graveyard shift. But it is actually easy. I finish my last meal when I go into work and start my first one an hour before I leave. I actually like this diet because to me it is really like not dieting at all because I have to make myself eat the last meal. How are you doing with working 2 jobs.
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dibzzy
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Posted: 26 March 2007 02:20 am |
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hi..
just wanna know if this diet is safe if you are 6months pregnant...or is it out of the question??
thanx 
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Nir
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Posted: 26 March 2007 03:51 pm |
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Is any weight-loss diet acceptable when you're pregnant? You are expected to put on some weight during pregnancy:
Different women gain different amounts of weight, but this shouldn't be more than 10-12 kilograms or 22-28 pounds over the whole of the pregnancy.
Have a look here:
ht tp://www.eatwell.gov.uk/agesandstages/pregnancy/whenyrpregnant/
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Frankie
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Posted: 26 March 2007 10:38 pm |
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I would not go on this (or any) diet if you are pregnant. The food choices are too limited. While you're pregnant is not the time to worry about the weight, but about nourishing your growing child. Your obstetrician can give you some guidelines about what you should be eating.
But I'd definitely give it a try after the baby is born, and you're back on your feet.
Frankie
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doublet
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Posted: 27 March 2007 07:31 pm |
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Frankie wrote: I would not go on this (or any) diet if you are pregnant. The food choices are too limited. While you're pregnant is not the time to worry about the weight, but about nourishing your growing child. Your obstetrician can give you some guidelines about what you should be eating.
But I'd definitely give it a try after the baby is born, and you're back on your feet.
Frankie
I agree with Frankie (hi Frankie!!!) - being overweight when I fell pregnant, I watched my weight too carefully and ended up giving birth to a slightly underweight child, who was a bit small also. Then when she was six weeks old she hadn't put on as much as she should have, so I was forced to supplement her feeding, which was pretty devastating for me.
However, now, she is a bouncing not-so-wee 2.5 year old, who is very tall for her age (it has been extrapolated that she will end up 6'2" !!!), very smart and a true delight, so it all turned out well.
So, just for the period of time after the birth, there was an issue, but formula fixed that.
I'd just be conscious of what I eat if I were pregnant again, and not reach for more "as I am eating for two"! Just try to eat healthy and listen to what your body is telling you, rest when you need to, eat when you need to.
Good Luck!
Teresa
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Zara
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Posted: 7 April 2007 07:48 pm |
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Hallo
I was on FL4I <known then as WL4I> some two years ago. I did lose weight on the plan but as we sometimes do, went off it and gained a bit of weight back. I lost 35 pounds the first time I did it, after useing the plan for about 4 months.
I decided to try a couple of different diets, thinking as we all do *the grass is greener on the other side*. I did the Forgetcalories which was similar to this plan but eating more frequently. It was hard to do that so went a completely different direction and tried Bread for Life <you can find my thread on *other diet plans* and read up on why it wasn't successful for me>. Well that didn't work as it involved more carbs then my body could handle. I realize now that I am carb sensitive and need to keep that at bay and eat a bit more protein, in my diet.
So here I am, back to try again! I firmly believe in this diet as I have had success before and I simply need to accept that I am one of those people who needs less carbs and more of a protein oriented diet. This diet allows carbs <veggies, fruit and some grain/pasta> but not loads of it, so my body will probably thank me for it.
I'll be starting the 11 day plan as of Monday. Wish me luck and I will come on often with some feedback
Blessings,
Zara
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Zara
Senior Member
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Posted: 9 April 2007 03:39 pm |
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Hi everyone
I am starting a new thread so we can support eachother. I notice that on some topic threads there are people who began the diet and reported back from time to time with their updates. Often, due to life we sometimes forget to come on or maybe we are too busy and as a result we lose touch.
I would like to remedy that and attempt to give updates every day or so. I believe that giving eachother support is integral to keeping us on track with this eating plan. Sometimes we do really well and we are excited so want to share. At other times we find ourselves a bit lost again and maybe resorting back to bad eating habits, so are reluctant to report back our lack of progress. I am beginning this thread in hopes that we can be there for eachother in bad times and in good times. Isn't that what this board is really for?
I have started FL4I again and am now on my first day of the 11 day eating plan. I had great success before and lost some weight but due to circumstances,starting eating badly aagain (I should have known better). I have tried a few different ones that did not suit my needs so have found myself going back to what did work for me. I would like to stay on track this time and I feel I am in a better place, as I know what my body needs and doesn't need now. I believe I can do it this time. Not just lose weight but lose it AND keep it off!!
It really is an easy diet to follow and has some good advice on obvious and not so obvious things. Mainataining is always hard to do, once you lose the weight, but part of it is discipline and the rest is keeeping on track with what works. Either way, it is workable and worth the effort.
I have about 70 pounds to lose and have every intention of making great progress. What helps me, is knowing there are others out there struggling and in the same boat as me. We can be great support for eachother so I invite all of you to join in this thread-those who have been on it for a long time and those just starting out. For the old-timers: Hi, how's it going? For the ones who are back to try again: Hi, me too, but we can do it this time. For the new ones: Hi, this is a great diet and it does work, just take it one day at a time.
I'll be on later tonight with an update of my first day. Till then, stay focused, drink your water and don't give up.
Blessings,
Zara
(I am sure this turtle means something but I like tirtles so will be useing it as my Zara signature)
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Zara
Senior Member
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Posted: 10 April 2007 02:13 am |
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Hiya
I just finished my first day and I managed to get through it fine. No slip-ups and feeling quite proud of myself. I enjoyed my meals and didn't feel that I was eating too much or too little. Incidently, this is the first day in a while that I haven't felt bloated or *too full*. I think it may have had something to do with the reuction in my carb intake. It seems to have made a difference.
Tomorrow is my fruit day and I am not looking forward to it. I am not a frut fan and have never been too keen on the taste. My mum could tell you stories on how I would refuse to eat anything fruity-especially real fruit!
Maybe I should start a FL4I diary, in the diary section. It's not as though I will be stopping this diet anytime soon. With 70 pounds to lose, I could be here for decades!
I hope everyone had a fab day! :grin
Blessings,
Zara
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JulesG
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Posted: 10 April 2007 01:04 pm |
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Hi Zara
Its nice to see someone else from the UK. I was definately getting the feeling of being in a tiny minority, and was this FL4I just a USA 'thing'
This eating plan is the first that has really moved the weight for me,( I did weight watchers on and off for years!) and I love the totally structured 11 day menu, and I seem to have gotton over the lethargic, dizzy feelings that happend during my second round of 11 days.( I am starting my 4th -11 day menu after 2 weeks off)
I feel your thread will be a great sucess as I struggled to find the right place for the initial support I really needed, but having found my feet more on the topic boards, I have learned a lot, but still need to have a connection with one or two people who you can 'really' talk to.
catch up with you soon
Jules
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Zara
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Posted: 10 April 2007 01:40 pm |
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JulesG wrote:
Hi Zara
Its nice to see someone else from the UK. I was definately getting the feeling of being in a tiny minority, and was this FL4I just a USA 'thing'
Hi Jules ,
Thanks so much for replying to this thread! I was beginning to think maybe I was the only one who wanted to support myself. It's also good to have a fellow UKer who is trying this eating plan. When I first went on FL4I, some 2 years back, the old plan gave me more options for sandwiches. They recommended oat or bran bread as the optimal bread to use. If you opt for a sandwich on the fruit only day <I know there is an option to do that> or any other sandwiches you might eat on your cheat days, I found the *oatmeal batch* from Tesco's was a great tasteing bread. I thought I would just pass that on .
I never had any ill effects when I first tried the diet so it is likely I will be fine again. I am glad to hear you are not suffering too much now. Quite possibly your body may have been reacting to different food combinations and now your body may be more used to it. I wish you continue success on this diet. May I ask how much you have lost so far?
Good luck and keep the faith!
Blessings,
Zara
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JulesG
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Posted: 10 April 2007 02:59 pm |
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Hi again,
I find it takes a couple of days for anyone to reply or add on, mainly because of the time difference I think- so dont get disheartened.
I have lost 16lb from a total of 20 I originally wanted to get rid of. Not much to a lot of people, but I was the classic Yo Yo person. I now want to loose an extra 5 lb's AND KEEP IT ALL OFF
I use the menu's almost like a maintenance plan, with 1 or 2 weeks off at the end of the 11 days.- I still have to totally grasp the correct mainenance idea they give you.
Thanks for the bread advice. I follow the new plan, and I must say- given that bread WAS one of my big likings, I feel much better for not having it at all - other than on that dreaded fruit day.
How did you come across this eating plan in the first place, may I ask. For me, I was just playing around the internet weight loss sites, cos I was sick and tired of feeling ' rubbish'  when the FL4I came in front of me in a pop up, thought I would give it a try( with GREAT sceptisism), paid my money and got the menu's.
Jules
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Zara
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Posted: 10 April 2007 03:43 pm |
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Hi Jules,
I am just so enthusiastic to lose weight again, I get a wee bit carried away and think everyone else should be like me! So I will be more patient when it comes to waiting for others to join the bandwagon. I know part of it is the time difference and of course the other part is work schedules. I have begun a diary of my progress in the diet section as a way for me to stay on track-Zara's FL4I diary.
I came upon the diet when I was looking for a weight loss plan that sounded like it might work. This diet sounds too good to be true and so, like you, was not too sure if I was being manipulated. I think it is called *being safe*. I decided to go for it anyway and paid, at the time $27 for a 3 month membership. I diligently went online and printed off some 26 menus. I followed it for about 4 months and at that time lost 35 pounds. I felt great but then began eating foods that did not work for my body . Therein began the usual story of gaining weight back. Part of my problem was not changing my mindset. Since that time I tried a few diets that didn't work very well, or were too difficult on my body.
I came back to FL4I simply because it made sense 2 years ago and it still makes sense now. I still have my 25 old menus but went ahead and paid the $39 for the new plan. I know that I have the option of useing both and I will see which one works better for me. I like the fact that there is more variety now per meal and more foods to choose from. At the same time, I like the old menus because some of the food choices were quite versatile <turkey mince for example>.
I plan on sticking to it this this time and to be honest it wasn't that difficult the first time I tried it. My mindset has changed <thank God> and as a result I know that I will not only lose the weight but keep it off. The after care maintenance is the only thing I am a bit confused with, so nearer the time I will figure that part out!
Talk to you soon. Keep the faith!
Blessings,
Zara
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Dobie
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Posted: 10 April 2007 11:55 pm |
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I had a bad weekend off with family in town. I am down from my start at 257lbs and i want to get below 200 before my cruise the first week in May.
So I was at 210 this morning, but I am not losing at a 7-10 lb/week rate so making it may be tough for me.
For you two, keep it up! You are doing really well it sounds like!
Dobie
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lighten up
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Posted: 11 April 2007 12:15 am |
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Hi girls! I'd love to join you in this message board. I have just completed my 1st cycle and lost 5.5 lbs. I have never done a diet so easy. Easy in the sense that every meal is easy to make and for me to travel with. The food isn't expensive and the variety is good. I do miss certain foods and am not sure if I can substitute without hurting my results. Foods like Salmon, scallops, swordfish. Also, fruits like watermelon, pineapple, blueberries,bananas can only be eaten on fruit salad days but not on the all day fruit day. Do you guys find that making small changes in the food changes the results? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I want to lose 50lbs (i think). I'll know as i get down there if 50 is too much. Thanks for starting this board.
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JulesG
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Posted: 11 April 2007 01:22 pm |
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Hi Lightenup
For the fruit that is not listed on the fruit day list, I looked up the calories/carb for all fruits on the internet, then made up my variety using fruits with the same calories/carb as those listed.
For example 100g grapes is 50kal/15 carb, blueberry's have the same values for 100g(50kal/15 carb)- so where the food says grapes I would say eat 25g of grapes and 25g of blueberry's.
Jules
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Zara
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Posted: 11 April 2007 02:53 pm |
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Dobie, great to have you on this thread! I know you have been on this diet for quite some time, and from what I can gather, have done quite well. It appears that you have modified the diet, occasionally, to suit your needs and seems to have been ok for you.
As far as the possibly of you not getting to your target goal weight for the trip, if you get close to it, that would still be an accomplishment. You still have time to lose some of it, although as you said you are not loseing it as fast as when you began. Maybe your body is slowing down for a reason and short of working out more or reduceing calories to get to your goal, maybe it means that you might fall short. But falling short is not like failing, it is more like not quite getting there, but still being #%@&! close anyway! I think, either way, you should be proud of how far you have come from the beginning and realize that that in itself is a major success story! Either way, I wish you luck and <crossing fingers> hope you might get there, so don't give up hope just yet
Great to have you on the thread too Lighten! It sounds like this eating plan has gone well for you. I think it is sensible that you are not absolutely sure about how much weight you need to lose. The ideal weight is always so very different for different body types. I know for a fact I am never going to be *thin* as I am big-boned and the few times I have been my *ideal weight* it has generally been a size 12. Once I got down to a size 10 and everyone thought I was ill because I looked too skinny and had hollow cheeks. Everyone is different and so nearer the time you will know what works for you .
I have in the past added a fruit not mentuioned on fruit days and not always followed the diet perfectly, substituteing here and there. generally I found that it did not impeed my weight loss but quite possibly it might have been an even greater weight loss if I had not. I am the kind of person that believes that if you chose to make cahnges, as long as they are reasonable changes then it mighjt be ok. If it didn't work, then at least you will know at the end of each cycle.
I wish everyone luck and it's great to have people staying in touch .
I survived my fruit day and I am ion day 3 of my first cycle. I woke up feeling good and knowing that this time it will work. Till we speak next, keep the faith!
Blessings,
Zara
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Posted: 12 April 2007 08:43 am |
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Hi Zara,
I was on FL4I last year,briefly. Midway through my 3rd cycle,I had lost 15lbs. Someone in the family got ill (has since passed away). I went off the plan and was not motivated until now. I've been a total. I have made no effort to curb my eating. Needless to say, I've added about 9 extra ponds that were not there last year.
My start date will be Mon. April 16. I will probably stick to the old plan with a few adjustments. I think we are starting back the same day.
I turned 50 in Dec. and I have aprox: 45 lbs to lose. I think I'm close to 198-the heaviest i've ever been in this 5'5" frame.
Best wishes to you Zara!
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Zara
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Posted: 12 April 2007 02:26 pm |
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Hi Takin <waves>,
Like some people, we do the diet then find ourselves in deep water when we go off it. I think part of the problem for me was chaninging my *mind set* and realizing that with any eating plan, you have to have discipline!
The FL4I plan is a good diet and it's funny how we try others and either not get the same success or discover that our body can't handle some aspect of it. That was the case for me and if nothing else trying the other plans really made me focus on what my body needed. The extra carb on Bread for Life didn't do me any good and made me feel icky . The Forgetcalories, similar to FL4I didn't work because I couldn't eat 6 times a day. So what I found was a happy medium-Fl4I .
I started the 11 day cycle this past Monday and so far I feel good and I have had no difficulty eating 4 times a day as opposed to 6 times. My body has come out of shock  and I know this time I will lose the weight and keep it off *YAY!!*.
Once you start again, please stay in touch and let me know how it's going. I started a thread-Supporting each other and hope this will be a way for those on the diet to give one another occasional updates and support as we traverse forward to a newer thinner us . I also began a diary of my progress in the diary section so you might want to see how I am getting on while I fight the fat-demons .
Till we talk next, keep the faith!
Blessings,
Zara
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taknitoff
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Posted: 12 April 2007 03:48 pm |
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Zara, Keep up the great effort.
I'll check back on the support thread next week.
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Dobie
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Posted: 13 April 2007 03:54 am |
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Glad you made it through the fruit day. It is never easy, but always seems to give an extra boost to the fat loss. :-)
We grilled up a bunch of chicken and lean pork that we eat instead of ham. BOY we love grilled food! We will even grill up veggies of our fruit and veggie day (old diet).
How did everyone do today?
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Dobie
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Posted: 16 April 2007 07:05 pm |
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Boy, I am psyched! I am almost down to my 200 goal (203 today) and I have four days left on this cycle! Then I have my cheat weekend, 5 days and my cruise! I will make it and I am very excited to go to the beach 65 lbs lighter than last time I took a cruise!
That is unreal to type...65lbs less!
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Zara
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Posted: 16 April 2007 10:04 pm |
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Dobie,
Excellent news that you are near your goal weight-well done!! <claps enthusiastically>.
I love grilled food too, and it's so easy to make loads of things on the grill-fish chicken, veggies etc. I am currently using the new plan for FL4I but to be honest, I think I like the old plan better. I printed off 27 old plan menus so have many to choose from. Once I am done with this cycle I will try one of the old plan menus instead. I have a funny feeling I will be happier with some of the food choices <ground turkey is a good example>.
So far it is going well and I am managing it fine. The cycle ends Thursday evening and then my 3 days off will be this weekend. I will then begin a new cycle with one of the old menus I have. I have yet to officially weigh myself as I want to do it only at the end of each 11 day cycle. I think it will be more exciting that way!
What type of cruise will you be going on, Dobie? I bet it must be wonderful to be 65 pounds lighter, especially with summer looming ahead. You should be proud of yourself! . I am hoping to be able to say that for next summer or sooner!
Till next time, keep the faith.
Blessings,
Zara
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Dobie
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Posted: 17 April 2007 10:37 pm |
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Zara wrote: I have yet to officially weigh myself as I want to do it only at the end of each 11 day cycle. I think it will be more exciting that way!
You have more patience than I do. I weigh every day I remember! Of course, it motivates me if I go up...I am disappointed, but it keeps me aware.
What type of cruise will you be going on, Dobie?
Carnival through the western carribean!
I bet it must be wonderful to be 65 pounds lighter, especially with summer looming ahead.
It is really different for me. I have not been <200 lbs since high school which was 20 years ago. So to get back down there is such a new feeling and to be able to sit outside without a shirt and be not embarrassed of my "folds" is something I have only dreamed of. That is why I hang out here. I really want to help others get there and this diet has been the only thing I have been able to follow with my wife for long term and to get the results on top of previous results instead of a loss and then stopping and putting it back on.
I am hoping to be able to say that for next summer or sooner!
I am sure you will be able to make it! Keep plugging and you will be there sooner!
Dobie
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Posted: 20 April 2007 01:59 pm |
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Hi everyone,
I am 5'4" and 8st 11lb. I want to loose 10lbs to get back to my pre 35 year old figure! Unfortunately this diet does not work for me, maybe it is because I am not clinically 'overweight' (with 40" hips that is hard to accept!)
I tried this diet last month and stuck to it religiously. It is very easy to follow and I was only hungry on the fruit and veg days. I lost 3lbs by day 4 but put it all back on again by day 8. I started again on Monday and have lost 1lb but my measurements are exactly the same. I have always drunk 2 litres of water a day so that is no different, and I do not eat junk food. The only real difference on this plan for me is that I normally only eat three times a day and I eat a lot of sugar.
If this plan works for you that is great, but if not, try the GI diet as I lost 7lbs on that last summer in 2 weeks, and I was allowed to eat my beloved Snickers bars, and porridge! I think I must be one of the few people who do actually benefit from a high carb, low fat, low calorie diet!
Good luck everyone, and don't give up - there is a plan to suit you.
Tip - Shape satisfaction yoghurt really does fill you up - it is only 74 calories and after eating one, I am full for a good few hours.
Sarah
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Frankie
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Posted: 20 April 2007 05:54 pm |
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Hi Sarah,
Just curious: why are you not going on the GI diet again? That's the Glycemic Index diet, right? Was it too hard to follow for an extended period? Would love to hear your experience with it.
Frankie
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Posted: 20 April 2007 06:24 pm |
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Frankie,
I am doing the GI diet again as of today! However, I was a bit hungry on that diet so I am incorporating some of the WL4I to help with that, i.e. eating quite a lot of protein and eating 4 times a day.
I have noticed that eating lots of refined carbs actually makes me more hungry. For example, If I eat a jacket potato or baguette, I am 'full' for an hour maybe but not really 'satisfied' if that makes sense. Then an hour later I run to the sandwich bar (next door to where I work - nightmare!) and grab a chocolate bar. It seems that the more refined carbs I eat...... the more I eat.
I have tried all sorts of diets over the past 18 months and found only two successful for me - slimfast and GI. Slimfast was great and I felt really healthy on it, but they changed their brand and stopped selling my favourite snack so I stopped. I tried high protein/low carb but found that impossible to stick to. Then in the summer I tried low GI and did really well. The only thing is I ate a Snicker for breakfast, a Snicker for lunch and a 'healthy meal' in the evening. I am sure that is not really good for you as I was quite tired and a feeling a bit low - and hungry.
So now I am doing low GI whilst eating more protein than normal and eating 4 times a day. Also, Slimfast bars are low GI so I will swop one of my Snicker bars for one of their meal bars and take a multivitamin.
My husband introduced me to the Shape yoghurts; he bought them by mistake at the supermarket but found they really filled him up - and they do. After eating one in the evening I do not eat until the next day. I think this is important as eating before bedtime can effect weight loss I am sure.
So I am taking all the 'do-able' and good bits out of various plans and putting them into the following:
eat 4 times a day, low GI, plenty of protein, filling snacks to keep the calories low, no eating after 8.00pm. I suppose most people would say this is common sense.....
Regards
Sarah
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Frankie
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Posted: 20 April 2007 06:51 pm |
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Hi Sarah,
Thanks for your answer. I am sure that the final answer for me will be something very customized...selecting what worked from various diets and jettisoning what didn't. And that's probably true for a lot of people.
Frankie
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