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beegoood
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Posted: 15 October 2006 05:44 pm |
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Hi Jan:
I have been up to my rear in homework. I am one of those career re-training adults. Sorry to hear that you have been out of sorts lately, but that too shall pass. I have had a busy 10 days with dinners and outings, so my diet could have been better, but I have still lost a few pounds. I increased my exercise this week. I don't walk, I use an old Tony Little Glider. That was bought a few years back so my wife would have access to a no-impact exercise; bad knee history. Walmart sells the same thing for around $100. It is vegetable day for me, so I have some pinto beans cooking right now. I usually substitute one of my veggie meals with a fruit. It changes it up a little and still keeps it a carb day, without too dramatic of a change. Continue to get well Jan!
Barry
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Flutterby
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Posted: 16 October 2006 04:08 am |
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Hi everyone
Have spent ages reading through the posts from Sept 05 up to date. Looks like this plan is the business but like most things I am worried that it might be too good to be true!
All of the good stories (successes) are great but what about anyone who hasn't lost weight on this - maybe they simply haven't bothered to post. I've about 4 to 4.5 stone to lose and have spent so much money on #%@&! that didn't work, I could have paid to have all of the flab liposuctioned away instead.
I tried to pay for the plan on Friday and got an error message. Decided to cool-off for a day or two and read some more reviews. It sounds a bit like the Slimming World plan where you could have meat days or carb days - I got fed-up trying to remember that what I could eat on one day was a no no the next day - I hope this is different.
To recap, have tried the following with varying degrees of success in the past but have always regained the weight by returning to old eating habits  - Weight Watchers, Unislim, Weight Watchers again, Just 4 Weeks, Slimming World, Weight Watchers again, Atkins, Paleo Diet, Weight Watchers again, Southbeach, Hamptons, Rosemary Connelly, Weight Watchers again (I should get honorary membership I have rejoined so many times). Atkins was the best weight loss but I developed a kidney stone and haven't gone back to it again.
Interested to hear others views/comments.
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beegoood
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Posted: 16 October 2006 04:25 am |
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Flutterby:
I can assure you one thing for SURE! That one thing is that it will take commitment and to learn new eating and exercise habits, for any diet plan to work long-term. This plan has worked very well for me thusfar. I find it very easy to follow, as you printout your diet plan and have it as your reference, so there is no getting mixed up. Each detail of the plan is important, very important. If you follow the plan to the letter, you will have great success too. A lot of people try to get creative with food replacement, etc and screw things up. Here is the plan in a nutshell: Eat what they say, when they say it and drink what they say, when they say to drink it. Water is the #1 thing that dieters screw up with. They fail to understand that once fat is metobilized, it needs to be flushed out of the body daily by lots of water. I drink a 16 ounce glass of water before each meal also and that helps me with portion control. I look forward to seeing your posts around the discussion board!
Barry
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jillybean720
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Posted: 16 October 2006 05:44 pm |
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Sorry I haven't been posting lately--I was on a trip last weekend and into last week to Georgia (about a 12-hour drive from our home near DC). I'm back now, and have stocked up with healthy foods over the weekend.
I've decided to let go of this plan for a while. The same thing happened to me as happened when I tried it last year--I saw excellent results the first cycle, but then the subsequent cycles were mediocre. I can lose 4 pounds in 2 weeks on this plan by eating exactly what it tells me to eat, or I can lose 4 pounds in 2 weeks by eating a much larger variety of food while getting in more nutrients and just tracking my calories. And so, I'm going back to counting calories. I was tracking my calories while doing this plan as well (I always log my food, regardless of the plan), and I was only eating about 1000 calories a day, which is waaaaay too low for me. I was not feeling hungry, but it's certainly not a healthy plan to continue for me. I'm instead going to count calories and just try to stay below 1800 a day. I've also read multiple times that to best keep your metabolism revved up, you should eat about every 3 hours throughout the day, so I'll be eating about 6 times a day now instead of 4.
I'll certainly still keep drinking my water--that is an important factor not only in dieting, but for health in general! I drink at least 3 liters (just over 100 oz) each day. Also, in addition to tracking calories, my goal will be to make sure I get at least 100g of protein in each day (which isn't very difficult after having been on this plan--I can still apply some of my Idiot plan meals).
I'm sure I'll come back to this plan in the future as a quick jump-start if I've fallen far off course, but for me, that's its best use. I obviously have entirely too much difficulty with the mentality of "on" and "off" plan/menu days. I need to treat all days similarly and not have any excuse to think, "it's okay to eat this--I'm on an 'off' day."
Best of luck to all, and hopefully we shall all meet again in the Success Stories section! 
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Flutterby
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Posted: 17 October 2006 11:21 am |
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Okay, went online and got the diet yesterday morning and started straight-away. Day 1 was reasonable - didn't have any great hunger pangs and drank tons of water.
Being a serial dieter, I weighed myself this morning as usual and 1.5lb down - good start! Am on mostly fresh fruit today which might be a bit tough but its only for one day and I am certain my body could do with a good clear-out of all the bad toxins from too much junk.
Will let you all know how its going from time to time.
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beegoood
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Posted: 20 October 2006 05:57 am |
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Hey Everyone:
Just an update. I just completed my 4th cycle and my weight loss is now 31 pounds. That is half way to my goal of 62 pounds. That is almost an 8-pound average per cycle. Although my losing has tapered some, it is much better than traditional and popular named diet plans. Catch ya later!
Barry
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Flutterby
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Posted: 20 October 2006 12:42 pm |
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Wow that is brilliant and so very encouraging for someone like me who is just starting off.
Today is day 5 on the program and as usual I weighed in this morning - 5lbs down in 4 days!! Of course reason tells me this is just water weight but it is just the boost I needed. Last weekend I went shopping for clothes and came home really down - nothing I liked fitted me and what fitted me I didn't like.
I am going out tonight, Friday, with my husband and some friends. I know I will look the biggest blimp there but inside I will know that I have taken the first steps in doing something about my weight. I don't want to tell anyone else that I am on this diet just yet. My family and friends have been there before and tend to roll their eyes when I say I am on yet another diet. I really hope this one is the last.
I say diet because I don't see WL4I being a long term eating plan for me - the food is too repeticious and limited. However, I hope to use the strict part of the program to lose my weight and then apply the 10 rules for maintenance. From what I can make out the rules seem like good common sense and can be applied to all lifestyles and food preferences. I suppose the old saying 'everything in moderation' just about covers it.
Will post back in another few days - am determined to only drink mineral water tonight (not really a drinker) so hopefully I won't stuff up the plan.
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doublet
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Posted: 20 October 2006 10:40 pm |
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Hello from the beautiful snowy mountains of Australia!
I have just had a marathon effort reading through the entire forum, starting at 8pm and now finishing up at 4am!
I stumbled across the WL4I diet last week when I googled on body fat, as I have just bought one of those fancy new scales with the body fat/body water indicators on it after my 2yo daughter destroyed my other set of scales a couple of months ago.
I had never heard of the diet before, and looked through the entire website rather cautiously but with an open mind, and in the end decided hey, it was only a small amount of money (about $55 AUD) to give it a try. That's only two month's worth of the weight watchers online! No harm in trying.
I started last Monday, and have just completed day 5 of the diet. I have lost 6.2lbs so far (2.8kg) - I am a numbers freak, so built this rather amazing spreadsheet with my weekly weight loss projected out, and converted from kilograms to pounds!
After years and years of dieting, trying everything over the past (yikes, thinking about it now!) 19 years (I have just turned 41), I now think that this will be the last time I will have to lose weight - I want to lose 44Kg which is 97lb, and this time I am finally mentally ready for it.
One thing I noticed as I was building up to start the diet (it took a few days as I worked out I wanted to start on a Monday) was that I had a lot of fear around doing this diet as I knew in my gut and my heart that it would REALLY work for me.
Once I realised and acknowledged that fear, which took a bit of doing, I embraced the diet and couldn't wait to get started.
Day One was the toughest day, I struggled with Bacon and Cashews and then shrimp (they are coming of the menu for next week, although I do like raw cashews). Day Two was a big surprise for me, I am not normally a fruit eater, but I really LOVED the fruit day!
Since then, I twigged that I didn't HAVE to eat every item, so I skipped the Shrimp when I could and just ate the peanuts or cashews. - I found raw easier to stomach than roasted and salted.
It has been pretty easy so far, and yes, I have been weighing myself every day - it is exciting, because I haven't been able to kickstart my weightloss off for so long. I will follow advice shown in this forum though, I think, of not weighing in after the 3 days off, as that could be depressing!
I have so far followed the diet to the letter - I even got the guilts about adding a lettuce leaf to one meal and only had two bites of it!
It is very late, and I need to go to bed as I need to get up in 2.5 hours! So I will post more tomorrow. Thank you all for being here, and I hope more people come by again soon, it seems a bit quiet at the moment.
If you haven't done so already, take the time out to go through the entire discussion - I have learnt a lot of very valuable information this way, and it has been very inspiring and motivating.
Hope to hear from you all again soon!
Teresa
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Flutterby
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Posted: 21 October 2006 12:33 pm |
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Hi Teresa
Welcome onboard! I too am a numbers freak and thought I was the only person who had a 'weight-loss projection spreadsheet' - guess not
I am just starting day 6 after a bad day 5 - not because I ate too much or the wrong food - but rather I had some dental work yesterday and didn't eat everything I should have. Too nervous in the morning to eat meal 1, too sore to eat meal 2 and by evening realised I hadn't eaten nearly enough. Weight loss only 0.5lb yesterday but still a respectable 5.5lb in 5 days. Weekends are normally tough for me as I am out of my 9 to 5 routine of weekdays but I am determined to be disciplined.
Went out last night for the first time in ages and drank mineral water all night so as not to stuff up the plan any further. Really enjoyed myself but go so hot and sweaty dancing - vigorous dancing and a cover-up all the bulges, mega-layering outfit just don't go hand in hand. Anyway, my normally reticant husband told me on the way home that I was shining all night. At first I thought he was referring to the beads of perspiration on my forehead but no - he thought I had a bright happy glow about me he hadn't seen for ages. Coincidence - I think not.
Like you, I think this time I have my head around the hard work needed to get my excess weight off. Today I weigh 14st 10lb and would love to get down to 10st 4lb as this was the weight I was after I had my youngest who will soon be 14 yrs.
Hubby and I went to Paris earlier this year and I totally fell in love with the city. I want to go back, perhaps May/June next year and would love to be happy and confident about my weight/appearance by then - I think it helps to have a particular goal to aim for.
Looking forward to chatting to you in the Snowy Mountains - it is a rather grey and damp autumn morning here in Ireland but the leaves are brown and everywhere is so beautiful.
gosh I am just full of the joys of life today
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 21 October 2006 06:41 pm |
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| Hi all, I am new to this diet and site as well. I have just started my 1st day, 1st meal and I am so excited to see the results others have seen. I loved my 1st meal, tuna salad, plum and macadamia nuts. I was disappointed that I was almost full so soon. I had to stop eating. I have 33 lbs to lose. I had been doing weight watchers but it was so slow and drove me crazy. I was losing 1/2 lb to 1.2 lbs per week. I originally gained weight as a result of taking a popular anti depressant. I no longer take that med but at my age (40) the weight doesn't fall off like it used to . I feel like I can actually do this diet. I love hearing about everyone's experiences. I am wondering-have any of you felt tired during this diet or do you feel better. Thanks again, Cindy
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doublet
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Posted: 22 October 2006 08:32 am |
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Hi Cindy,
good luck to you too! I know we can all do it if we choose to put in the effort!
As for your question about being tired, I basically gave up drinking tea on this diet as I tried it black (erk!) and I usually sugar it. I can handle no sugar, but not no milk! (I measured out 10 calories of no fat milk and it weigh in around 20ml, which is nowhere near enough for me!) Anyway, I think since I used to drink about 9+ cups a day going to 0 (or one when I hit milk on the diet plan) I am having caffeine withdrawal! Hubby went through it when he went from caf- to decaf coffee, and he was crook for a week (sick and sore muscles). I have been tired, headachy, and sore, and it is still a bit that way (I have sore muscles still) on day 8. I think it should pass by day 11.
I think also, apart from the caffeine thing, being tired is caused by your body detoxing, you are giving it good fuel to now get rid of all the junk in your system. Plus you do go through sugar and carb withdrawals too, so that could be part of it.
Make sure you are eating enough, so your energy levels stay up. And one thing I have learnt from reading through this entire forum is to keep up the water! I have found that the easiest way for me to make sure I drink all my water is to keep a jug with the day's amount on my desk (I work at my desk a lot) and always keep the glass full. Makes it really easy to make the daily limit.
Yesterday was the first day I left the house after being on this plan (I work from home), and I did really well. Had porridge (oatmeal) for breakfast, took peanuts with me to my son's cricket game, came home and boiled some eggs to take with me for the remainder of the day out. For dinner we bought some bbq chooks and I took the skin off. Perfect!
This afternoon we have friends coming over for wine and cheese, so I bought some lovely cheeses for the platter, and I LOVE the one glass of wine a day thing, finally I don't have to feel guilty about my daily wine habit! After that I will just drink soda water - I think you lot call it club soda? The stuff that people use to wash carpet with etc!
Enjoy and good luck! I am off to build the cheese platter now!
Teresa
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doublet
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Posted: 22 October 2006 08:40 am |
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Hi Flutterby,
Glad you made it through the evening out! Ireland is one place I would love to make it too. My family are from Holland originally, so we will make the trip there one day! I have never been there (Holland and Ireland!)
I just also wanted to report that I lost another 1.2 kg (2lbs), so now, on day 8 of cycle 1, I have lost a total of 4kg (8.8lb)! Only another 40.2kg (88.6lb) to go!
Teresa
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doublet
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Posted: 22 October 2006 11:39 am |
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me again...
I was just wondering - has anyone come up with some great ideas for breakfast on the vegi day on the new diet? I am trying to figure out what I can have tomorrow and haven't worked anything out....
thanks! Teresa
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 23 October 2006 01:28 am |
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| I didn't know there was a vegetable day too!! The fruit day is about killing me. I can't wait until sausage tomorrow. How bout making some kind of stir fry. Zucchini cooks up nice and is filling. I was wondering if I could have baked apples on my all fruit day. I just took regular apples and put them in the oven. No additions to this=just plain apples. Thanks. Cindy
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doublet
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Posted: 23 October 2006 01:35 am |
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Sounds legal to me! I actually really enjoyed my fruit day, I had pears, strawberries, oranges, bananas and it was really pleasant.
Just trying to figure out what to have for breakfast on this veggie day now.
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 23 October 2006 01:41 am |
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| Bananas were not on my allowed list of fruits. I looked several times just to make sure. Bananas would have helped.
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doublet
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Posted: 23 October 2006 01:45 am |
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ooops... they weren't on mine either!  Oh well, I know for next time... the pears were filling though. I have still lost 8.8lbs in 8 days though, even with the bananas. Oh well, will know for next time!
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doublet
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Posted: 23 October 2006 02:11 am |
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by the way, I have seen people saying that their first weight loss was water loss... well, I just weighed myself on my fatloss scales and it said I lost 8.8lbs, and 2% body fat. Body Water % was up 2% too. So, it aint all water loss! (water% is supposed to go up! - my skinny hubby is 50% body water... I am 35% now)
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 23 October 2006 03:52 pm |
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That is so awesome!!! You are doing great and you've still got a few more days left. WOW It is so encouraging to know that it is not all water weight. I worry about gaining it back as fast as I lost it.
I have lost 3.6 lbs in 2 days. I couldn't believe it when I got on the scale today. It would take me a month on my points plan to do that. I am so glad that I found this diet and forum.
Well maybe bananas can be added to the fruits now that it is obviously not a downfall.
I was so glad to have my sausage and peanuts this morning. I get a little more variety today. I have been home for these 3 days on this diet and will be back to work tomorrow. I am a nurse and am constantly on the go and I worry about getting light headed or weak. I am trying to eat more today than I did on Saturday cause when I got up on Sunday, I felt light headed and nauseated. I hope that it was just some kind of withdrawl.
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 23 October 2006 03:55 pm |
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| by the way-what did you end up having for breakfast?
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Flutterby
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Posted: 23 October 2006 04:50 pm |
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Hi - good to hear the body fat analysis as I too was putting the initial weight-loss down to water loss.
My weekend was a killer - work days are fine, I just pack up what I need for the day and eat it. Saturday I stuck to the plan fairly well but yesterday I felt dreadful when setting down a full Sunday lunch to hubby and offspring - needless to say I caved-in around mid afternoon and ate food (not sweets, choc or rubbish) but a salad of chicken, potato salad, beetroot, coleslaw, tomatoes etc. Not terribly fattening foods but not on my plan either.
Oh well - when you fall off just get up and start again. I am back on track today because it is a work day and will off-set yesterday against the first day of my 3 cheat days - in orther words only have next Saturday and Sunday as my cheat days.
Didn't look at the scales this morning in case yesterday had caused me to gain some pounds - that would have knocked the stuffing out of me. Five more days to go to teh end of my first cycle and I will definately be carrying on with how ever many cycles I need to shift my excess pounds.
Have a doctors appt in morning to get cholesterol levels checked. They are normally very high so it will be interesting to see if this plan has had any effect - probably not in just one week but I might be able to use my levels as a guide for anyone else concerned about HDL or LDL.
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 23 October 2006 06:37 pm |
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| Good for Flutterby! Losing weight is a series of ups and downs. You have already gone this far into the plan-maybe the little off episode will enhance your metabolism. You never know. But congrats for not giving up. Success is obtained by consistency not perfection.
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Paint-Mom
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Posted: 23 October 2006 08:05 pm |
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Pretty good this weekend; although not 100% on plan -- but 96%. . . had to tell my mom "no thanks" to going out for a hamburger! and then took DD to  McD for a spicy chicken sandwich -- I was having an apple(fruit only) and my one sandwich for the day! Today -- I'm on plan! Drinking my water is easier here at work -- wkends I don't get enough ! Hope you are all enjoying the cooler weather!
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Frankie
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Posted: 23 October 2006 08:47 pm |
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Newlywed -
I have experienced the same exact thing that you describe: I eat what seems like possibly a bit too much, but then after two hours or so, I am ravenous. To help with that, I've started adding some veggies to the all-protein meals. I'm sure this slows down the weight loss some, but otherwise I'm afraid I'll just blow the diet altogether.
I was surpised that the cheat days didn't seem as hard as I thought they'd be, in terms of not going crazy. I enjoyed the freedom of choice, and I just kept thinking: I have three days, so there's no hurry to eat anything. For several meals, I purposely ate very lightly, like a big salad with low-cal dressing. Other times, I ate some goodies, but just tried to be very tuned in to the point at which it would turn in to mindless eating, rather than enjoyment. I was very surprised that I lost another pound during the cheat days.
Sounds like you're doing great!
Frankie
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doublet
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Posted: 24 October 2006 02:00 am |
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Good Morning All! Nice to see a few more posts this morning!
I made it through yesterday, it got a bit challenging around 4pm, I had to stop working on database stuff - I couldn't keep concentrating (my son doing piano practice didn't help!)
For breakfast I had a tomato stuffed with the other vegies on the list (Zucchini, onion, carrot) with the grated cheese on top and popped under the grill. Quite nice actually.
Next meal was quite yummy, capsicum (pepper) stuffed with vegies with the cheese on top roasted in the oven.
Next meal hubby stirfried vegies, a tad boring, but I got through them!
Last meal (at 10pm because of the way my day went) was a bunch of tomatoes with salt and pepper, and a carrot... mmmm ! I hate eating late at night.
Made it through, only lost 200g though, but I have been noticing that my weight seems to drop every two days, not daily. 200g =~ 0.4lb
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doublet
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Posted: 24 October 2006 02:01 am |
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| I went and got a cholesterol and glucose blood test before I started this diet as I wanted to see how healthy it was for my body. Both of these readings are always normally very good for me anyway, but I will be curious to see if they move in any way at all.
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Dobie
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Posted: 24 October 2006 05:14 pm |
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doublet wrote: I went and got a cholesterol and glucose blood test before I started this diet as I wanted to see how healthy it was for my body. Both of these readings are always normally very good for me anyway, but I will be curious to see if they move in any way at all.
My wife has had cholesterol problems, but this diet took hers from 213 last year to 166 in a year. Mine is at 153 and is usually around 175 or so. I look forward to hearing your results!
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doublet
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Posted: 24 October 2006 09:49 pm |
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streuth, even cholesterol levels we have different scales in! We go by numbers of HDL and LDL and our healthy range of HDL is < 5... Mine at present is about 3, I'd have to check with the doc exactly.
Nice to hear from you Dobie, how are things going for you? It's 3.48am here and I just got up to hear the rain and bring my washing in (we are in the worst drought Australia has seen since 1902) and tend to my 2yo. Feeling a tad hungry though!
Looking forward to day 12! It is coming into day 10 today, and these next two days the menu looks very pleasant, banana milk shake one day, orange pineapple smoothie the other. Scrambled eggs with ham for breakfast this morning!
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doublet
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Posted: 27 October 2006 02:18 am |
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Bit quiet here these past few days...
I am reporting my stats for my first 11 day cycle:
weight loss: 4.6kg (10.1lb)
body fat loss: 2%
body water % gain: 2.5%
hips: 2cm (0.8 inch)
waist: 7cm (2.8in)
chest: 8cm (3.2in), nothing from thighs.
Just thought people might be interested in a comparison/motivator! I start my first 3 days off today, bit concerned about blowing it, but as long as I keep the water up, and don't overeat, I think that will do it.
I have come to the conclusion that long term maintenance is due to the above (water and not overeating), so these 3 day stints are good practice for that time in the future!
How is everyone else doing?
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 27 October 2006 08:10 pm |
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Good for you. This is truely the easiest diet to stick to that I've ever experienced. It does get a little boring. I am on day 7 of my 1st round. I have noticed I am waking up with puffy fingers. I am eating salty sausage, bacon and deli style turkey lunchmeat. I guess the salt content is higher and I need more than 10 glasses of water to flush it out. I am getting tired of tuna and nuts. Tomorrow is my all veggie day. What did you eat the rest of the day on your veggie day. Are you doing any types of exercises? I haven't been so good in that area.
Cindy
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 27 October 2006 08:15 pm |
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Peter
Is it possible to put page numbers at the top of the forum and a page box so you can go to the page you left off? It is such a pain to go page by page to get to where you left off with reading past posts.
Thanks,
Cindy
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doublet
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Posted: 28 October 2006 02:48 am |
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Hi Cindy, bookmark the last page and that will take you straight there. When there is a new page, just make that your bookmark instead.
As for the saltiness, try washing the bacon first - other people have said this takes away the saltiness a bit. I've taken bacon off my list as I never did like more than just a taste. Not sure how I am going to go with sausages this next time, although the local butcher does lovely ones. I've taken tuna off my list too! And shrimp. Those are all things I like, but only in small doses.
I found instead of roasted and salted nuts I am eating raw ones - I can stomach these better. They were too rich roasted and too much salt!
Vegie day, have a look back, I put what I had up there... grilled stuffed tomato with cheese, baked stuffed capsicum, these were very nice. Stirfry was a bit ordinary, but if I do it myself I think it will be better!
Day two of 3 days off, weighed a bit more... even though I made a real effort to eat 4 meals, drink my water (was a struggle to get all my water in, will do better today), and make sure I stopped eating before I was full. I know though that it will just come off quickly on Monday though.
As for exercise... well, I am a bit slack in that area... but I take my daughter to daycare by pushbike - that is a 45min round trip with a few hills, one massive on the way back! She only goes twice a week, and only once last week as she spent her second day vomiting sadly. Walking bores me, I have to practically run to get my heartrate up, and with the little one it is difficult to do anyway. That's why I like this diet, exercise not necessary! But, the whole purpose of me losing weight is to get fit and go mountain climbing, bike riding, hiking etc, all of which is where we are living, so I will be doing more exercise as we are coming into summer here.
What I did to alleviate the bordom was think of two things: think of the three days off, and remember that this diet will get me to where I want to be weight wise, which I haven't been able to get to for the past twenty years, and I will never have to lose weight again after this time, I am determined. So I just remind myself of that. Working so far!
Good luck with vegie day, if you come up with something yummy, let us know!
Actually, on that, my daughter has started eating boiled eggs since I started this diet (I make them soft boiled as I hate hard boiled, and there can't be any difference calorie-wise!), and we have come up with different things to eat, so that is a plus!
Teresa
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Frankie
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Posted: 28 October 2006 04:10 pm |
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There are 11 days of being "on the diet" followed by 3 "cheat days" when you are supposed to eat anything you want. They claim you must take the cheat days for the diet to continue working.
At the beginning of the 11 days, you use the "diet generator" to generate the diet for the entire 11 days. The diet generator gives you choices about your food preferences. Each day has four meals. Most meals consist of one or two foods. You can eat the meals in any order each day, but you can't switch the days around.
Some meals are all protein, some are all carbs, and some are mixed carb and protein. (They don't really use fat to classify the meal types, but mostly the meals are not high-fat). The composition of the meals varies from day to day. That's what they mean by "changing up" the meals.
I doubt that anyone would come up with meal plans like these on their own. Four meals of all protein in one day is probably not "what you know to eat anyway." Supposedly, however, switching around between these types of meals is what causes your metabolism to burn faster, because it doesn't know what's coming next.
I confess it sounds silly, but if you can stick to it, it does seem to work. I had trouble sticking to it. The stricter you are, the more weight you lose.
I hope this helps.
Frankie
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doublet
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Posted: 29 October 2006 11:59 pm |
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Day 1 Cycle 2 - put on 1 kg since the weekend. I am assuming that will come off in the next few days...
have a nice week all!
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 30 October 2006 09:08 pm |
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Doublet
How is it going on your 2nd cycle? I am on day 10 of my 1st cycle and have lost 6.4 lbs so far but it is also first day of tom. I am expecting 2-3 lbs of water loss in the next few days due to that. I am totally impressed by this crazy diet. I have a small stock pile of cookies and chocolate for my 3 days off. I am hoping I get satisfied with just a little of it. I have lost this weight once before and went crazy and gained it all back. I am not about to do the same thing again. It is just too hard to get it off. I have not exercised regularly yet since I started this but I think I will start. I know that this diet does not recommend aerobics and such but I feel so much lighter, stronger and less hungry when I do it regularly. I know that I need to do something and I am not a fan of walking.
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 30 October 2006 09:08 pm |
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Also,
I tried the bookmark thing but I couldn't find how to do that. I don't have anything that says bookmark on my computer other than if I have a google account.
Last edited on 30 October 2006 09:11 pm by cysthinwithin
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doublet
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Posted: 31 October 2006 01:26 am |
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Cindy,
I will try to work out how to send you a private message so I don't bore others in this forum with technospeak re bookmarks!
I think the thing with exercise is to know that if you do lots and lots, you won't lose as much weight, just gain muscle! (But you WILL lose fat!) I reckon just do it if you want to - it's all good for you.
I didn't end up going berserk on my days off, weighed myself after the first day and put on a little, so made sure I didn't eat too much. I had a problem then, and now back on the diet, still, with eating too much - my first day back yesterday was quite surreal - every meal was seriously filling stuff:
1 - Peanuts, sausages and fresh peaches (I skipped the peaches as I forgot them!)
2 - fish, milk and pears (I skipped the fish)
3 - Beef slices and cashews
4 - scrambled eggs, macadamia nuts and fruit salad dessert
I had a hard time working out which order to have the meals! Ended up having beef and cashews for breakfast, milk and pears next, sausages and peanuts then lastly eggs, macadamias and fruit salad for dinner. Lots of nuts!
Today is fruit day, so I won't have as much problem with eating too much. And the roast beef this time is much nicer - the one I made for last cycle was overcooked and dry, this time I was more careful with it, and it is lovely and succelent and tender!
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 1 November 2006 04:06 pm |
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This weigh day and I am down 6.8# and I still haven't lost my water weight from my tom. I am hoping to even out during my 3 cheat days. My 1st cheat today-toast with butter, peanut butter cookie, milk and a cup of coffee with cream and art. sweetner. The toast gave me a stomach ache. I was looking for some eggs to go with my toast to help but I didn't have anymore. I thought maybe the peanut butter in the cookie would help and taste good too. My stomach still hurts some but the cookie was good. I am going to print out my new diet from the diet generator when I am finished with this post.
I have worked myself up for this day. It's kind of funny really. My 10 yr. old son wished me a "Happy Cheat Day" before he went to school. I have a stash of junk food that I have been saving. I only plan on nibbling here and there. I do have my water ready and I am going to try to stick with the 4 meals and not stuffing myself. I will post on how I do.
I tried on a pair of my smaller jeans last week and was able to zip them up but with 2 or 3 rolls hanging over the belt line. I put them on today and no rolls!!! This is so unreal.
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doublet
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Posted: 1 November 2006 04:34 pm |
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I should be in bed (it's half past midnight), but saw your post, so thought I'd respond to you Cindy!
Congrats on the jeans! I have almost lost the excess I put on after the cheat days (that was at the start of day three). That's ok, I will wait and see how the rest of the 11 days goes.
It's funny - last time I was counting down the days to day 12 - this time it doesn't really matter. Could be coz I am way busy this week too.
Yesterday someone pointed out to me that a steak is just roast beef sliced more thickly... I could have kissed him! (No it wasn't hubby, and his girlfriend was standing right next to him!)
Off to bed with me now - happy cheating! And happy dieting to all those others lurking out there somewhere...
Teresa
ps - I did have the odd banana on my fruit day yesterday... still lost weight!
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 4 November 2006 07:14 pm |
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| I was bad on my 1st cheat day. I gained 2.4 lbs in 1 day so I started my 2nd cycle the next day. It felt so good to lose that weight and I certainly didn't want it all to come back after my 3 day cheat. I am on day 3 of 2nd cycle and still have 1.2 pounds to lose of that gain. I am trying to stop when I am almost full. It is hard to figure out. I think that I am getting better at that. I have no problem getting all my water in. The day I did cheat, my stomach hurt all morning. It started after I had a piece of toast. I guess my body just doesn't appreciate cheat day. It was funny cause I didn't really enjoy the food like I thought I would. How is everyone else doing?
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labaum
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Posted: 4 November 2006 10:19 pm |
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I don't write much - but I read everyone's posts.
My update - 3 cycles down, and my husband has lost about 17 and I've lost 13. I am thrilled. We substitiute a lot because we share a menu but have different eating habits. So, with the subs, we may not have lost as much weight as promised, but it doesn't matter. Safe weight loss is 2-3 pounds a week and we are on track, plus the substitutions keep us from giving up on this diet. We are learning better portion sizes, not snacking, and limiting bad carbs. Those are lessons that can always be used, no matter if you are on this specific diet or not. So, I don't kick myself if I just can't handle one more piece of chicken and have a salad instead. I just don't consider eating a salad as cheating!
Good job for everyone who is losing weight! Now, I'm heading out to pick up my packet for tomorrow's Race for the Cure.
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doublet
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Posted: 6 November 2006 02:49 pm |
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I have been thinking about what you said all day Cindy, about going back on the diet after only one day off.
Perhaps the only reason to have three days off is to make the next week post big numbers (being cynical here). But, I have found what I think is a good reason to have those three days off, and that is to learn how to eat when I am not dieting, in such a way as to not put on weight.
So, over time, I am going to aim to learn what I can eat over the three days without gaining weight - sort of maintenance in training!
I have just got through vegie day again (what did you do for meals on this day) - hands down winner was roasted capsicum (pepper) stuffed with tomato, zucchini, onion and squash, covered with the cheese, all nicely melted in. Quite yummy.
Tomorrow sausages! yay! Fish is coming off the list for this next cycle, I am a bit over it. I have only left it in because I thought I *should* eat it to be good.... but I can skip it for 11 days!
I haven't lost weight for the past four days, but this morning I noticed that my body fat % has gone down in those days! And being that time of the month, maybe that makes a difference too, I had never really watched that before.
Good night all, and happy eating!
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cysthinwithin
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Posted: 6 November 2006 06:30 pm |
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Doublet
I still have 0.6lbs to lose of the 2.4 that I gained on the day. I also have sores on the roof of my mouth so I started taking vitamins again. I know that I am not getting enough fruits/veggies in on this diet. I did start exercising again and I feel better. It has been easier this time around in the fact that I haven't been tired in the beginning or kind of sick the first few days. I didn't even mind the fruit day. I saved my sandwhich for lunch. I must say I am not enjoying the food selections so much this time. I have not lost any weight today. I have maintained from yesterday. Overall it has been 6.2# to date. I lost most of it at the beginning of cycle 1. I just couldn't stand the thought of a 3 day cheat sabotaging my efforts. I think you are right about learning to maintain. I will try harder to do that at the end of this cycle. I know that I can't eat this way forever but I have lost my cravings for bread and sugar. I like that part. I am on day 5 of cycle 2.
I didn't do anything exciting on veggie day. It was the worst day for me as I had to pack my food for work and so it was raw veggies-cooked veggies but nothing that is worth passing on.
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Hisgal
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Posted: 7 November 2006 01:05 am |
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There are some appetizing vegetable mixes or stir-fries out there. I have found a stir-fry that I really like and it's convenient. Check the frozen food section. Sometimes I make my own with the veggies I have on hand. I just sprinkle some lite soy sauce on them when they are done.
I am on the old version of WL4I, so I have a day of 1 fruit meal and 2 veggie meals. I eat a veggie mix I get from my Schwan's truck (frozen food sold door to door) which is delicious. The other meal I had baked yam slices. If you've never tried these, they are absolutely delicious! I wash the yam and cut it into round slices. Then I spray a baking sheet with non-stick butter flavored spray and lay the slices on it, single layer (I line the pan with Reynolds non-stick aluminum foil). Then I spray the slices lightly with the non-stick spray and sprinkle with garlic salt and black pepper. You can use any seasoning that you like. Bake in the oven, turning about half way through. Depending on the thickness of the slice....about 20-25 minutes baking time at 350 degrees....until they are tender. I've heard people say they like them much better than french fries, and they are much healthier!
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dibzzy
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Posted: 9 November 2006 03:29 am |
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hi..
just wondering if it would mess the diet up if you had baked potatoes instead of the bread on your sandwich day? any thoughts????????
thanks
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doublet
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Posted: 10 November 2006 12:12 am |
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Top of the morning to you all!
Day 1 of cheat day 2nd cycle. Having yoghurt, muesli and a CUP OF TEA this morning!
Stats from last cycle:
weight loss: 4.6kg (10.1lb)
body fat loss: 2%
body water % gain: 2.5%
hips: 2cm (0.8 inch)
waist: 7cm (2.8in)
chest: 8cm (3.2in), nothing from thighs
Stats from this cycle:
weight loss: 2.2kg (4.9lb)
body fat loss: 2%
body water % gain: -.5% !
hips: 3cm (1.2 inch)
waist: -.5cm (-0.2in)
chest: -3cm (-1.2in)
thighs: 3cm (1.2in)
I think discrepancy in measurements due to everytime I measure I get a different measurement, so I have taken to measuring each spot three times and taking the average!
Curious results, but I am happy - as long as I lose a couple of kilos every two weeks, that is good enough for me. That is still twice as good as any other diet I have ever tried. Been doing this for nigh on a month now! Average weight loss over that time is 3.4kg or 7.5lb a fortnight (two weeks). Pretty good!
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doublet
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Posted: 10 November 2006 12:24 am |
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Somebody some time back said that they thought substitution was ok if you matched the calorie count and nutrient type of the items. I take that to mean that if baked potatoes and bread have the same amount of calories and are the same nutrient type, then substitution should be ok.
Personally, if something just isn't something you'd want to eat in a zillion years (like me and fish at the moment, I'm OVER it and dropping it from the menu for the next two weeks!) do what you think is best, and as long as your intention is to stick to the diet AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, then you should lose. Perhaps not as much as you would if you stuck to it 100%, but the end result is to lose weight and keep it off, not to see how long you can stick to a particular diet 100%, isn't it?
I have noticed that when things are done with a black and white attitude (you either do it or you don't), that is where people go off the rails. Oops, I had a cup of tea with a spoon of sugar in it. I have failed, may as well blow it completely now... how about, I had a cup of tea with a spoon of sugar in it. I really enjoyed that cup of tea, however, I know I need to limit my sugar so I will only have it once or twice a week or so, and understand that it will affect my weight loss.
Just my layperson's point of view! Like I said, what you are aiming for is weight loss, not the accomplishment of following a diet to the letter! imho.
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doublet
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Posted: 10 November 2006 12:26 am |
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| How are things going in Ireland Flutterby?
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laladias
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Posted: 12 November 2006 03:29 pm |
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Hi everyone in this forum!
I've just joined in a few days ago and am here to say thanks for posting your thoughts and experience. I Think this is very important to keep us motivated and inspired.
I'm on my 4th. day of cycle 1 - it is the first time I ever try this diet and I'm keeping high hopes.
I have no idea how much i've lost so far, but I will keep on posting as my progress goes.
Cheers to all and good luck.
Camila
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doublet
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Posted: 18 November 2006 12:52 am |
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Good on you Camila, for starting on this diet! I wish you well and hope you find it easy to use.
Shame this forum is a bit quiet at present! Perhaps Oprah should have it featured again!
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