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iloveld
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Posted: 2 September 2006 12:05 am |
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| I love Panera bread, yum! Sounds like you've got a good plan. I think mine is to eat one free meal a day and then watch the other 2. Do you try to eat 4 times on cheat days? I was so full after lunch that I won't be hungry till much later. How do you have room for 4 meals? My other plan is to drink my water, I just opened a liter bottle, it must be all gone before I can have wine tonight. Have a great weekend. Talk to you Tuesday.
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jillybean720
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Posted: 2 September 2006 03:41 pm |
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In theory, it would probably help me to keep the same 4-meal schedule like while on the menus, but like you said, I was definitely not hungry enough for 4 meals! I had 3 yesterday and am probably looking at 3 for today, too. I don't think it matters, though, since we're still taking in more calories in those 3 meals, I'm sure 
I get to go do a "secret shop" of a really great restaurant here today, so lunch will be there. I have to bring a guest and split an appetizer and a dessert, plus we each have to order a different meal. They have fabulous entree salads, so I will get one of those to help minimize damage since we'll still be sharing the app and dessert (though dessert is usually chocolatey, and I'm not a huge chocolate fan, so I'll let my boyfriend eat most of that).
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krissybee
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Posted: 2 September 2006 04:14 pm |
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im on my veggie day, day 8. lost 10 pounds! glad to see everyones hangin in. cant wait till my cheat days, i miss pasta, im italian and i need my pasta lol. iloveld i got ur email im emailing u back now.
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jillybean720
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Posted: 4 September 2006 05:11 pm |
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Alrighty...it's Monday, so even though it's a holiday (no work--woohoo!), I am back on plan with Day 1 of Cycle 3. I am back up about 4.5 pounds this morning from my 3 days off, but that should go away quickly as I get my water back up to par (I bet I didn't even drink 8 servings all weekend, let alone each day!).
I'm also going to try to start getting in some exercise this time around. Today, my boyfriend and I are going to a park to feed the ducks, which requires quite a bit of walking to get to the lake, plus another hike on a path through the woods to get to where the ducks actually are. I'll pack a lunch for us to eat in the woods (I have a sandwich on my menu as one of my meals today, so that is perfect!), so that will be a good start to getting some exercise for the week. I'm going to shoot for at least 4 days a week of exercise, whether it be walking outside or doing a workout DVD or whatever.
Hope everyone else's weekends went well!
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iloveld
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Posted: 5 September 2006 04:23 pm |
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Good Morning All, hope you had a nice weekend. I enjoyed my cheat days but didn't go too crazy. I had Mexican twice, pizza and wing (just one!) and a great steak dinner. I missed out on pasta, next time. I started my 2nd cycle yesterday, decided not to weigh until the end of the 11 days. I probably should have to see what kind of a gain I had, but then I thought maybe it would be best to wait until the water weight went away, now not sure if I will or not. Today is fruit day, not exactly my fav, but not bad. I just need to get motivated. Grapes and an apple for breakfast.
Jillybean, what's a secret shop? Sounds tasty 
Krissybee, wow 10# - fantastic loss. Not long until you can have pasta!
At least it's already Tuesday!
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jillybean720
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Posted: 5 September 2006 05:22 pm |
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I agree--already Tuesday (although it's sure shaping up like a Monday here at work!)!
A "secret shop" or "mystery shop" is when a company hires people to basically check up on them. Lots of places (retail, movie theaters, restaurants, banks, car repair shops, hotels, casinos, gyms--anything requiring customer services) do it--they pay a service to send in a secret shopper to evaluate their services. So, I go to a restaurant (in this case) on whatever day and time they tell me to go, and I act like any normal customer, but then I file a report about my visit. I evaluate the atmosphere (noise, cleanliness, etc.), the food, the service, and so on. Then I get fully reimbursed for all the food I purchased (at these places, usually about $50 for lunch, $60-70 for dinner for the two of us). Some even pay you more than just reimbursement, like a flat fee, especially if it's something that doesn't cost money anyway. For example, I edited reports for people who did secret shops at banks, and all they had to do was use some new ATM type machine, so it didn't cost them anything, so instead they just got a $10 fee for completing the shop.
I was perfectly back on plan yesterday including a walk in a park. It's pouring out today, so maybe I'll check out my stability ball DVD finally.
I think it's smart not to weigh until after that water weight is gone. Some people can't handle even seeing regular daily fluctuations on the scale without freaking out, so if you're sensitive to the numbers, then I think it's a good thing to wait. I, on the other hand, have been watching the stupid scale for so many years now that I just yell right back at it when it says something I don't like, so I weigh every day 
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iloveld
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Posted: 5 September 2006 07:12 pm |
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How does one go about signing up for this secret shop? I'd love to be a restaurant critic!
Besides exercise, are you planning on doing anything differently this cycle? It's pouring here too, guess I'll do the treadmill today. I'm wondering if a protein shake with fruit would be ok on fruit day? Any thoughts? I also found some progresso hearty tomato soup that might work on veggie day. I don't want to screw up though by making inappropriate substitutions, I have to keep losing. Doing this for me and my health. Just got my bloodwork back Friday, my cholestrol and blood pressure are the best they've been for awhile (I'm on meds too). My goal is to get off all the meds or at least most, I think it's doable if I continue to lose.
Have a great day! I'm glad you're here Jillybean!
-Julie
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jillybean720
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Posted: 5 September 2006 07:56 pm |
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How funny that your name is Julie--that is my sister's name 
This whole cycle is slightly different for me, not just because of the exercise, but also the foods. I did a lot of searching online for support for this plan (this was the only active forum I found, and I AM glad I found it!). In my searching, I did find some message boards where people had (illegally) posted entire 11-day menus from the old plan, so I printed those out. Therefore, they were not made with my food choices, but with someone else's. Since I no longer have access to the site, I can't generate my own new menus, so these offer some variation. This one seems to have quite a bit of tuna (something NEVER found on mine!) and NO ham (something on mine at least 6 out of each 11 days ). However, it also has a lot more sandwiches, so we'll see how it all balances out.
As for fruit day, I don't think a protein shake really fits. I think the idea of fruit day is, well, just fruit--kind of like a detox phase in some diets. Adding protein both increases your calories and makes the fruit less easily digested. The tomato soup on veggie day might work, though (even though tomato is technically a fruit, but I think for diet purposes, it's usually considered a veggie). I LOVE tomato soup--had some over my free weekend with grilled cheese 
I still have lots of "lean ground turkey" on my menu, and I went to 2 grocery stores over the weekend, and neither of them have my turkey breakfast sausages!  So I bought some Morningstar Farms sausages (meat-free). I was afraid to at irst thinking they would have way more carbs, but they only have 3g of carbs per serving, so I hope it'll work out okay. I'm also going to try a new recipe for dinner one night--I bought some sweet and some hot big turkey sausages, so I'll cut those up and mix with some diced tomatoes, sliced green and red peppers, onion, and whatever I else I find that sounds good  I think trying new recipes so I don't get bored is going to be very important the longer I stay on this plan.
Wow, maybe I should do some work instead of just posting here all day...
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iloveld
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Posted: 5 September 2006 09:48 pm |
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Iloveld stands for I love Labradoodles, we have a 8 month old one that I'm kind of crazy about, I picked that because it seemed like most everyone had a clever name!
I guess morning star are soy based, right? Still a protein, should be alright. I've discovered the flavored chicken sauages. I eat them all the time, whenever the plan calls for chix or sausage. Currently my fav is jalepeno (and something) flavor. They sell them in the meat case, right up from the ground beef. I think Emeril makes some too. I just ate a deli-sandwich, my last bread for 10 days! It sure tasted good. You're probably right about the protein shake, I didn't have one last time for the same reason. Good luck with the tuna! My birthday is Thursday, we're going out for sushi. I can eat my weight in raw salmon (well maybe not quite!). I just get it sashimi style, no rice. I don't know if soy sauce is allowed by I have it with washabi, good stuff. Better for me than cake, that's for sure!!
Guess I should get to work too!
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KyrieLynn
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Posted: 6 September 2006 09:30 am |
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Hey girls! I had a question about the sausage... I dont really know the difference between sausages and really, the first thing I thought of when it said sausage, was like polska kielbasa kind, but now I am second guessing myself. I guess there are those breakfast sausages too.. Why are you guys getting soy, or meat free or turkey/chicken sausages? Is that what we are sopposed to have? I am confused. I just thought all sausages were the same and... I thought the carbs/calories didnt really matter since it says you are not portion restricted... Not that I am eating 5 links, I was just wondering cause I get REGULAR cottage chz, and was wondering if I should have got LF or FF... LEMME KNOW...
I have started 100% first day on Tuesday! Please help me stick with this. Also, I wanted to know if Its okay to excersise. It says I dont have to but, I dont think it would hurt... do you? I like to do 30 min cardio, crunches, adn a combination of weights everyday... what do u think???
ty guys! -k
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jillybean720
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Posted: 6 September 2006 01:50 pm |
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Good morning, KyrieLynn!
As for the sausages, I'm on the old version of the plan, so my menu never calls for sausage. However, it does often call for "lean ground turkey," so I often eat turkey sausages as my turkey meal (since I can only handle so many bunless turkey burgers!). Since my stores were out of my usual turkey sausage, I went with the Morningstar Farms ones because, well, they were on sale and they have less fat than regular sausages. I know it says you don't have to watch your fat or whatever while on the plan, but I do still track all of my food in Fitday, which keeps track of my calories, fat, protein, carbohydrates, and nutrients, and I like to make sure I'm getting more UNsaturated fats than saturated. Certainly not a requirement of the plan, but at my weight and with my health history, I don't like to take chances
Oh, and the reason I checked how many carbs were in the sausages is that no, you're not required to count or limit anything (carbs, sugar, etc.), but the way the plan works is by getting calories from certain sources (protein, fat, and/or carbs) in certain combinations. I wouldn't want to replace my "lean ground turkey" meal (protein) with something that has a lot of carbs because then my calories would be coming from a different source than the plan said. I wouldn't feel so bad replaceing the turkey with chicken or something that is still a protein, but I certainly wouldn't replace it with fruit, which is a carbohydrate. I hope that all makes sense
I would think exercise can only help, not hurt, your efforts. Just make sure you're eating enough--exercising more means your body needs more fuel! Most dieters think that the less you eat, the better, but in actuality, if you go too low too fast, your weight loss can stop because your body is not getting all the fuel and nutrients it needs, so it doesn't want to let anything go. Oooh, and water--exerising means sweating, and that means you also need a bit more water.
heh, can you tell I've been dieting/reading/researching for FOREVER?
Anyway, glad to have you with us, congrats on your first day completed, and good luck!!
iloveld--I became a secret shopper quite by accident. I actually applied for a part-time editing from home job about a year ago (wanted additional income since my full-time job didn't pay much), and it ended up being editing these evaluation reports that other secret shoppers wrote. So, I just signed up through the company I was editing for to do some shopping, too. Now, I don't do the editing anymore, but I still accept free food in exchange for my critique! If you're interested, you might just want to look up "secret shopping" or "mystery shopping" in your area/online. The company I work with is mostly local, so it wouldn't do you much good. Just be cautious of any site that make you pay money--you should NEVER have to pay to be a shopper/evaluator, but there are a lot of scam sites out there!
Sushi definitely sounds like a good idea! The soy sauce is basically liquid salt, so it might make you retain some water for a day or 2, but I wouldn't worry about it. Like you said, much better than cake!
As for me, I didn't get any exercise in yesterday since not only was it raining, but after all that time I spent posting here while I work, I actually ended up being busy near the end of my day, so I worked late. That's alright--my goal is 4 times a week, so I'm allowed yesterday off, and it shouldn't be as rainy today, so things are still on track! Oh, and I lost 2 of the 4 pounds I had gained on my 3 days off, so things are falling right back into place I have also started a blog (ugh, I hate that word) as sort of a journal for me to document my progress. I tend to write a lot (as if you couldn't tell), so I hope that is a good outlet for me.
Alrighty, time to go cook my eggs for breakfast and get ready for work (tuna for lunch today--yuck!) 
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iloveld
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Posted: 6 September 2006 05:03 pm |
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Hi! Day 3 for me, made it through fruit day, really appreciated the eggs and cheese this morning though!
As far as sausages, when my menu calls for sausage or chicken and sausage I eat these chicken sausages (kind of like killing 2 birds with one stone), plus they taste really good and may (not sure on this) have less fat then regular sausage. I think you're fine with regular sausage if that's what you like. As far as regular cheese, I always buy 2% because I really like it and figure it might be a little better for me but this is a personal decision, I don't think it will effect your loss. Do what works best for you!
I got a 30 mins. in on the treadmill yesterday, but have a chiro appt today so it's not looking good for exercise today. Maybe I'll take our puppy for a long walk when I get home.
Have a great day! Jillybean, good luck with the tuna
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jillybean720
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Posted: 6 September 2006 09:25 pm |
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Whew, I survived the tuna lunch I mixed in some dill flavored hummus and some fat-free mayo, and it wasn't too bad. I have one more container of tuna in my fridge (I bought a big can, so I split it into 3 small containers), so I will have that for my next tuna meal, but after that, I think I'll sneak in some grilled fish fillets instead 
iloveld--I would LOVE an all fruit day! I can handle just about any fruit...it's the veggies I can't stand! And the day on the old plan is 2 veggie meals and 1 fruit meal, so I usually only get fruit for breakfast and then salads for the rest of the day (I'm sure I'm not supposed to have salad dressing that day, but I literally can't choke down the veggies without SOMEthing!).
Man, am I bored! My boss left for the day at lunch (had to go to a client site), so I'm pretty unmotivated. At least I only have nother hour and 38 minutes (but who's counting ).
I'm praying the weather stays clear enough for walking later. If I want to try my stability ball DVD, that first means I'll have to clean the living room so there's enough floor space to do it! Hope everyone else is still doing well with their plans (kylie and krissy!)
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iloveld
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Posted: 6 September 2006 09:52 pm |
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Jillybean, why don't you give the new plan a try for a change? It might give you some new food options (like fruit day). Email me if you need help getting the new plan. You're right, fruit day isn't that bad, just caught me off guard. I guess because Day 1 was a holiday. Veggie day is sometime next week, it's not so bad when you add spaghetti squash and tomato soup into the mix. I love hummus, wish I could eat it on the new plan. Don't work too hard!
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KyrieLynn
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Posted: 6 September 2006 11:39 pm |
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Hi!!!!
Okay, let me formally introduce myself... I cant remember if I did or not. I am 19 and am 155lbs, formally 130 (only 3 months ago). Lots of work/stress/drinking /depression BS over the summer and subsequently gained these hideous lbs. I am absolutely determined to lose the weight back off because I absolutely refuse to get rid of all my expensive jeans. I am so miserable and depressed right now. I hate being that girl who is obsessed with their weight, but I have turned into THAT GIRL OBSESSED WITH their weight. I am excited to have found this active forum for the support I need. I have found that anything out of my daily normal routine throughs me and my body completely out of wack , so I have commited myself to stick to my routine as close as humanly possible (for the 11 days). That means no going out to dinner, to a friends, celebrating (aka  ) and stuff of the sort. I need to get that discipline back in my life or when I do eventually lose the weight, I'll gain it back. I am sooo sad right now with the way I look/feel right now because I knew how great I used to feel. I used to be outgoing and fun and happy... now, I am miserable to be around. My aunt says I am depressed, and never knows what mood I am in. My friends are frusterated with me as well. I have CONSTANT trouble sleeping, wether too much or not enough.
Today is DAY 2 :3 fruit meals and 1 sandwhich. I LOVE FRUIT. I go shopping every three days... and plan my foods out so that works well. I find the foods very YUMMY! Yesterday I had 1. chicken/chz/apricots 2. peanuts/cottage chz 3. sausage/ff milk/vanilla frozen yogurt (yummmmmm) 4. turkey/roastbeef/peach
Today: 1. grapes/peach/plum 2. grapes/sberries/kiwi/ 3. grapes/apples/pears 4. half r. beef sandwich half turkey with tomato and mustard only on ww bread. CAN YOU TELL I LOVE GRAPES?
I dont know if its okay for me to post what I ate, but Ijust want to make sure I am doing this right... I use measuring cups for stuff like frozen yogort (1c) and 1/2 c of peanuts (i loveeeeee unsalted peanuts to death). and cottage chz (1cup)... 1 CUP of ff milk. I find that if I portion it out and then eat in my room (away from kitchen) I am too lazy to go back to the kitchen to get more and by the time I get up I realize I am full...
I drink diet coke, water and just recently got those Crystal lite to-go packages THEY ARE GOOD! I like water, but it gets bored and thse do the trik!
I have no problem exersising, but I am going to start back next week, just cause!
Hmm.. what else... oh yea, you should def try the new plan, i havent seen the old, but FRUIT day is bomb and well.. NEW is always good... atleast you could give it a try...
sry for the long POST. but I just realized how EXCITED i AM ... !!!
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iloveld
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Posted: 6 September 2006 11:56 pm |
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| Hi Kyrie! It's great that you're so excited, we're glad you found us too! It sounds like you're well on your way to ending your sadness over your weight, this plan really seems to work and it's easy to follow with a little planning. I'm on my 2nd cycle, I lost 6# with the first. Looked at your menus, and have a question for you. Where do the apricots come in? I don't recall seeing those? Everything else looks pretty familiar. Make sure you drink lots of water, 64-80 oz a day. I know you'll be so pleased when you weigh in on day 12, keep up the great attitude!
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jillybean720
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Posted: 7 September 2006 12:30 am |
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I've actually thought about signing up again (since I got my menus so long ago, I no longer have access to the menu generator), but I just can't get myself to spend the money again since these old menus are working well enough for me. I actaully like only have 1 thing at each meal instead of multiple--makes it easy to plan and shop and pack (lunches for work). I also get to have fruit other than just on fruit day--sometimes ham with pineapple, sometimes fruit salad, sometimes grapes, etc. Not sure if that's the same on the new plan. Last night, I had an AWESOME banana smoothie (they call it a milkshake, but without ice cream, I call it a smoothie ).
Well, I did it--I actually got off my butt and went for a walk after work today! That makes 2 days so far this week, so 2 more days of walking and I will meet my goal. I doubt it'll make much difference as far as the weight loss goes, but I bet my body sure does appreciate it on the inside, so it's worth it.
Definitely glad you're here, kyrie--the more, the merrier! Of course, I type so darn much that I could probably carry on a conversation with myself here...heh, I apologize ahead of time for all the babbling I do So don't be afraid to write long posts, because we love readin' em, plus I know the feeling
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KyrieLynn
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Posted: 7 September 2006 01:28 am |
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When you asked about the apricots, I thought maybe I had fabricated those into the menu because I love em, but I looked, and they are on my menu! Although, they werent in stock at the grocery store so... thats that! Oh, question... I am here at the cafe studying and am doing good, just had a d.coke, seeing the french fries and burgers flying by me, but since I have decided to stay longer I opted for an Odwalla Juice Drink. Tell me if you think this is okay, since its my fruit day. It is 100% juice. 130 calories, 31 carbs. made of strawberry/apple/oj/bannana puree.. and vit c. okay i know i am not supposed to have oj or banannas, but this has got to be pretty darn close to being a good substitute right???
peace/love
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Dobie
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Posted: 7 September 2006 06:44 pm |
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jillybean720 wrote: I've actually thought about signing up again (since I got my menus so long ago, I no longer have access to the menu generator), but I just can't get myself to spend the money again since these old menus are working well enough for me. I actaully like only have 1 thing at each meal instead of multiple--makes it easy to plan and shop and pack (lunches for work).
Hey, everyone. I have been MIA for a while, but staying the course and wanted to check back in. Good to see you guys so regularly contributing and building each other up!
Jilly, I am confused by you needing to sign up. you are a memeber for life. Do you just want access to the new diet? If so, Juanita gave step by step directions that work for the new site and conversly, I can give you similar for your original if you would like. Here is Jaunita's post: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum3/1546-2.html
Best of luck to all!
Dobie (217 down 40lbs over the past year)
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iloveld
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Posted: 7 September 2006 06:48 pm |
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| Hey Dobie!! Nice to hear from you! Did you reach your goal? How do you maintain your loss? It's very motivational to hear from you 'vets'! Any words of wisdom?
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jillybean720
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Posted: 7 September 2006 11:17 pm |
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Dobie--no, when I signed up for the diet (back around June of last year, I think), it said I only had access for either 30 or 60 days (I forget which). Hoping you were correct that I had access for life, I did just go and try to log in, but it said my user name does not exist Maybe that's something they changed when they started changing the diet, that you now have access for life, but I didn't get in on that deal 
So, I went out for luinch today and had a salad with chicken on it (since 2 of my meals for the day are "salad with dressing" and "chicken," so I just combined them). Of course, it was a HORRIBLE salad! It was mostly just like the bagged mix you get at the store (lettuce, red cabbage, and shredded carrot) plus entirely too much cheddar cheese, bacon, some sort of little crunchy potato sticks, and the honey bbq dressing. Oh, and I asked if they had chicken that was not fried (since the salad normally came with fried chicken tenders on it), so instead they gave me (get this) SHREDDED bbq chicken--including skin! It was pretty appaling, not to mention my salad was only about the size of a small before-dinner salad when it as supposed to be an entree, yet it was listed as an entree and was the same price as the entree salad another girl got. I was VERY disappointed--here I was trying to stay mostly on plan even while eating out, and I ended up just being frustrated instead of full
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Dobie
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Posted: 8 September 2006 06:10 pm |
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iloveld wrote: Hey Dobie!! Nice to hear from you! Did you reach your goal? How do you maintain your loss? It's very motivational to hear from you 'vets'! Any words of wisdom?
I did reach my first goal...I started at 257 and I am at about 215 now. I set a new goal of 190, but I have not gone back on it full force yet to reach it.
I consider FL4I a way of eating, or WAE as Jayelle likes to call it, and it has changed the way I consider food. My weakness is that I am still not very good at controlling my portions of foods that I really enjoy. Therefor while I am not on the diet, I do tend to gain weight.
When I am not on the generated diet, I drink my water, I exercise, and I eat four meals and avoid snacking. There are times, say a party, that I realize I am making myself miserable abstaining so I give in to my cravings and have fun. It is totally worth it! Then I spend the rest of the time when it is not so much fun to eat on the diet where I maintain or lose.
Once I hit 190, I plan to weigh each week and if I break 200, I jump back on a cycle or two until I drop and then relax again.
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Dobie
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Posted: 8 September 2006 06:14 pm |
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jillybean720 wrote: Dobie--no, when I signed up for the diet (back around June of last year, I think), it said I only had access for either 30 or 60 days (I forget which). Hoping you were correct that I had access for life, I did just go and try to log in, but it said my user name does not exist Maybe that's something they changed when they started changing the diet, that you now have access for life, but I didn't get in on that deal
I signed up in August of 2005 and was told I had 90 days, but it still works. If you still have your confirmation email, go to dietaccess.com/help.php and try those to get your account working.
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jillybean720
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Posted: 8 September 2006 06:43 pm |
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Dobie wrote: I signed up in August of 2005 and was told I had 90 days, but it still works. If you still have your confirmation email, go to dietaccess.com/help.php and try those to get your account working.
I tried. I tried using both my email address and date (the date on which I received the confirmation email) and using my order number and date (since I still have the old confirmation email). Both times, it said it was "unable to verify" my information. Maybe because I purchased it in June of 2005, and it doesn't allow you to enter a year, only a month and day, so it only checks June 2006? Who knows...
In any case, I stuck to plan yesterday and even started off today with fish for breakfast (yummy, but not my favorite first thing in the morning ). Then it happened--one of the managers at my office returned today from his trip to Maui, and he brought me a box of chocolate-covered macadmia nuts I ate 4 of them. I have put the lid on the box and the box out of sight so I can bring the rest home for my boyfriend (as I did with the 2 pounds of salt water taffy my boss brought me from her trip in the Bahamas a few weeks ago). It's just a really horrible day to have anything even remotely tempting--I'm feeling kinda weak, and I just want to eat some JUNK! Stupid hormones...if I could just have a big jar of Skippy reduced-fat peanut butter and a spoon, I would be in heaven
But no...I have a Lean Cuisine for lunch (grilled skinless chicken with spinach), and I will have my scheduled pasta with sauce for dinner tonight (whole-wheat pasta with no-salt-added sauce). I WILL NOT let those 4 little candies I ate become an excuse to trash my whole day. I even figure that of all days, at least I'm supposed to have carbs today anyway (pasta), so maybe the chocolate won't completely do me in.
Dobie--your success is definitely inspirational! And you seem to have a good plan set for maintenance, too, which is extremely important. I know I'll have to be on some sort of monitored/limited eating plan for the rest of my life in order to keep the weight off after being obese for over 20 years. But I digress...I've got plenty to go before I reach maintenance, so I'll cross that bridge when I get to it!
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iloveld
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Posted: 8 September 2006 07:23 pm |
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Hi Guys, sorry I've been kind of mia for a couple of days, my boss actually put me to work!
Jilly, I LOVE macadamia nuts. I actually have them on my plan but tend to way overeat them. Don't sweat the 4 pieces (sounds divine!), you'll just be more motivated to stay on plan the rest of the weekend. You need to tell your bosses to start bringing you back jewelry instead ! How's the exercise going? I did 30 mins on the treadmill yesterday, nothing today. Better go shopping to get some walking in over the weekend! Stayed on plan for my birthday dinner, ate lots of salmon and tuna, yum!
Dobie, your loss is great (that sure sounds funny)! I still don't understand how this plan will help me know what to do once I've reached my goal. When my cheat days were here, I found myself eating the same quantities and foods as before. I also wondered how to eat 4 meals during those days since I wasn't hungry in between the main 3. Hoping a big, bright lightbulb will come on one of these days. I have at least 5 more cycles to get to my goal so I guess I have time to figure it out. I'm just so tired of the yo-yo effect. Maybe I'll get wiser with age
Thanks all, hang in there. Have a great weekend!
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Dobie
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Posted: 8 September 2006 08:19 pm |
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iloveld wrote: Dobie, your loss is great (that sure sounds funny)! I still don't understand how this plan will help me know what to do once I've reached my goal. When my cheat days were here, I found myself eating the same quantities and foods as before. I also wondered how to eat 4 meals during those days since I wasn't hungry in between the main 3. Hoping a big, bright lightbulb will come on one of these days. I have at least 5 more cycles to get to my goal so I guess I have time to figure it out. I'm just so tired of the yo-yo effect. Maybe I'll get wiser with age
I struggle with exactly what you are saying. the bottom line is while we CAN eat that much, our bodies don't need it even though they want it. It will be constant dicipline. I started each breakfast last week with an apple. Even with the sausage/gravey/biscuit/waffle breakfast, I held my self in check with that low cal bit of roughage. To me, it is going to be about enjoying food, but NOT the quantity...and that is hard. But it is how we will stay small and NOT doing that is why we are bigger than we want to be.
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jillybean720
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Posted: 11 September 2006 02:43 am |
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Wow, so, this whole weekend was a bust for me. Yesterday, I ended up eating a jar of pineapple chunks and a bunch of SunChips, neither of which were on my plan, of course. Today (Sunday) was supposed to be my day of all fruits and veggies, but I hadn't gone shopping yet, so my breakfast ended up being turkey sausages (the big Italian-stlye ones, cut up into chunks) that I cooked in the crock pot with red and green peppers, onions, tomato paste, white cooking wine, seasonings, and canned diced tomatoes. Granted, it was not an unhealthy meal, but it certainly was not all fruits and veggies Add to that some more SunChips, a 12" chicken teriyaki on honey oat bread from Subway, and some peanut butter, and my fruit and veggie day was a major no go!
I'm ditching my menus for this week. I have lost NO weight with this menu in the past week (except for losing most of what I gained over my last 3 days off) even though I added in walking 4 times a week. I think maybe it's because this menu is not one that I made but rather one I found online that was based onsomeone else's choices. It has a lot more sandwiches and such, which are nice to eat, but not so helpful for the weight loss for me.
To make up for my horrible weekend and my lack of losses from last week, the next 4 days (the remainder of this "cycle" before the 3 days off) will consist of primarily fruits and veggies (with the added light salad dressings and a few nuts sprinkled on a salad). I will still eat 4 times a day and still drink lots of water (that is never an issue for me during the week--I drink about a gallon a day), but I'm going to eat as "clean" as I possibly can. For me, getting super-strict is the best way for me to get back on plan, so after 4 days of this, I should be very well-prepared to handle a good 3 days of healthy "treats" and then be able to get right back on track with another 11 days of MY CHOSEN planned menus--no more using someone else's!
Sorry this is kinda long, but I needed to sort of write it all out so it would make sense to me, plus I needed someone else to read it so I am held moe accountable. Thanks so much for being here, guys--it is SO helpful to know I'm not in this alone!
Well, hope everyone else's weekend went a bit better than mine diet-wise--catch ya during the work week!
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iloveld
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Posted: 11 September 2006 05:35 pm |
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Hi Jillybean, happy Monday. I don't know about you but I'll be glad when today is over, it's hard to relive the whole 9/11 thing. It should get easier, but it doesn't seem to and it's all they're talking about on TV for the past week.
I'm sorry you had a bad weekend. I wouldn't make it on someone elses menus either. Don't beat yourself up, just move on. I was able to stick to plan, pretty well. I did drink to much wine but that's the one cheat I allow myself on the weekends. Today is veggie day. I took someone suggestion and had some spicy V8 and a salad for meal 1. Think I'll have hearty tomato soup and a salad for meal 2 and maybe another salad for meal 3. Meal 4 will be spag. made with spag. squash. Wish we could have chick-peas, it lists pintos but not chick peas, wonder why?
I'm counting down to day 11 and weigh in. It's almost here, hope I lose! I'm going to drink lots of water today. Have a good one!
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jillybean720
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Posted: 11 September 2006 09:17 pm |
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I completely agree about the 9/11 memorials and specials and whatnot. I know it's important to remember, but I don't think any of us will ever really forget--I don't think beating the dead horse is really necessary.
Glad to hear someone else was able to stay on plan over the weekend! I just have a lot of difficulty sticking to fruit/veggie day on a weekend. It's easier for me to do during the week when I have more of a set routine, and food just isn't as big an issue. According to the scale this morning, I'm up to 286.5, so I'll weigh again on Friday morning before my 3 days off and see if I can at least get back down closer to 280 (I would LOVE to get out of the 280s completely, but I don't want to set my hopes too high). I should definitely lose some just by getting back to drinking all my water, so that plus limiting myself to fruits and veggies for the rest of the week might really make a dent in my weight. I also plan on still going out walking at least 4 times this week, but I know that doesn't really affect my weight loss much, if at all--I just do it more for health.
I have prepared myself for my self-inflicted 4 days of fruits and veggies. I went shopping last night and bought fresh bananas, plums, nectarines, and strawberries, dried cranberries, romaine lettuce, baby spinach, and organic red pepper and tomato soup (haven't had it before, but I LOVE tomato soup and have been on a slight spicy food kick lately, so should be good!). I'll be chowing on a lot of salads, but at least I have a variety of ingredients and dressings so they're not all the same. For lunch today, I had baby spinach, sliced strawberries, and chopped pecans with a light Asian soy sesame ginger dressing--YUM! If nothing else, I'll be getting plenty of fiber and nutrition this week
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CaitsLosinLBS
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Posted: 12 September 2006 09:48 am |
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Hello everyone! I've spent the last half hour or so browsing through this forum, getting excited about possibly trying this diet! It seems like everyone has had good results with it.
I'm a young dieter(21 this Sunday!), and I've had 20-30 pesky pounds since my younger teenage years that I've attempted to shed a few different times. I've tried the Atkins diet a couple of times before, and lost 10-20 pounds each time but always gained it back. I moved from Texas to Idaho 4 months ago and joined a gym for the first time(partly because there is NOTHING to do here). I didn't really know what I was doing and gained muscle mass over a 2 month span... NOT what I was aiming for... Anyhow, I've just been browsing around for different diets, and think that this might be the one for me. Still deciding on whether or not to fork over the $40 for it. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to continuing to read yalls inspirations to each other if nothing else!
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jillybean720
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Posted: 13 September 2006 01:44 pm |
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Welcome, Caitlin! Is the plan $40 now? Huh, it was $27 when I bought it, but then that was back in 2005, so it could have gone up since then.
I've been a young dieter, too...I'm 24 now and have been overweight my whole life (and I mean OBESE, not just a few pounds here or there ). My goal in losing weight is to actually experience what it's like to be NORMAL instead of ALWAYS "the fat one" in the room. People complain about how fat people get treated worse in restaurants and stores and stuff, and I tell them they're crazy, that I've never had bad service unless it was from someone who was giving bad service to EVERYONE (regardless of weight/size), but then I've never been thin, so I guess I actually don't have a basis for comparison. It will be interesting to see if I get treated better as I lose the weight, so I guess it's a bit of a social experiment for me, too
Well, the pumped up water and the fruits and veggies seem to be doing something, at least. I was stuck at 286-286.5 for a few days in a row, but this morning I'm down to 283.5, so hopefully 2 more days of fruits and veggies will continue to have a pleasant effect.
I already know what one meal will be on my 3 days off...we've been assigned to do a secret shop of a diner (part of a chain, not some skeevy little hole in the wall type place, thankfully) on Saturday night, so we'll be splitting an appetizer and dessert and each having our own entree. Friday, I'll be going out for lunch for Asian bar (I usually get about 4 kinds of chicken, no rice or noodles ), so aside from those 2 instances, I should be eating pretty healthy foods cooked at home (I don't keep ANY junk food in my apartment!). Now, if I can just keep up with the water over my 3 days off...
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Cathoney58
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Posted: 13 September 2006 06:55 pm |
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Hi Everyone - I'm new to this diet, which doesn't seem as popular here in the UK as in the US. I'm on day 10 of the first rotation, so looking forward to the cheat days at the weekend! I haven't had the dramatic weight loss that some of you have described, but I'm down 4lbs (another 38 to go!) - mind you these are the same 4 lbs that I was so happy about 3 days ago! Maybe some more will drop off before my 11 days are up? But this is always the same for me, I have a terrible metabolism and find it very hard to shift any weight at all.
It's so good to see a forum for the diet - I've been reading it for a couple of weeks, but couldn't join as for some reason my joining email wasn't getting thru. But then I had a brainwave and used another email address and here I am.
I love reading all your tips, for instance how to cope with the veggie day! (which, incidentally, I thought was going to make me drop at least 1lb, but not a thing!)
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jillybean720
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Posted: 14 September 2006 02:44 pm |
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Welcome, Cathoney! I don't think I'd say the diet is really "popular" here in the US, either. I found it last year just through an online ad and had never heard of it before that. And if I had heard of it, I probably just would have made fun of it since, like most people, I would have assumed it was an unrealistic way of eating and, therefore, just a fad diet that would result in gaining all the weight back once your goal was reached. I still think it's all a bit cheesy (good lord their website alone is pretty horrible), but it works for me anyway
Hey, 4 pounds lost in 10 days is still really good! I lost a LOT in my first cycle, but I also have over 100 pounds to lose. The more you have to lose, the quicker you can usually lose at first and then the losses slow down as you get lighter. But, it's better than being 4 pounds heavier or still the same weight as before, right?
As for me, another day of fruits and veggies, and another .5 pound gone to 283. I have a doctor's appointment this morning, so maybe I can talk to her a bit about things, too. More fruits and veggies today (and I am LOVING these all-natural veggie soups I bought, so I'll have to buy more even for when I'm NOT on fruit/veggie days), and then tomorrow morning will be the weigh-in officially ending my third 11-day cycle (although this one had a bumpy weekend and an off-menu 4 days of fruits and veggies, so I'm not expecting miracles ).
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Dobie
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Posted: 14 September 2006 09:47 pm |
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jillybean720 wrote: and I am LOVING these all-natural veggie soups I bought, so I'll have to buy more even for when I'm NOT on fruit/veggie days
What is it called? I am on F&V days and even though I like the results (if I don't lose which has happened, I usually lose a day or two later), I HATE the veggies.
Fruit is easy for me (except when I eat in the wrong order. Today I had a GREAT sweet peach followed by grapes that 1 out of 3 was really bitter with no way to tell and then a plum which was NOT ripe. :-P) But Veggies are a real hastle. Today was a side salad (which is bad without cheese or dressing to me), cooked carrots, and corn. I need the corn or potatos to get the other stuff down.
All to say, a veggie soup that is recommended can save my bacon (so to speak.)
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dawgfan1
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Posted: 14 September 2006 11:25 pm |
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I'm on the new plan, so the fruit and vege days are separate. I LOVE the fruit day, but had problems with the vege day until I made the vege chili from the recipe thread. This gets me through the day, but I'm very hungry the next morning.
I tried doing the old plan and lost more weight on it, but it was hard to stick with. I have been on the diet since June, with 2weeks off, and lost 21 LBs. I have tried many different diets over the years, and this is the easiest for me to stick with. I do find my weight fluctuates a great deal during the 11 days. One thing I have changed the last 2 cycles, is not selecting any nuts. I have a hard time limiting nuts and did not lose as much weight in my early cycles as I am losing now (7 LBs last cycle).
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jillybean720
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Posted: 15 September 2006 12:30 am |
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Dobie--I bought the soups at Trader Joe's (they're TJ brand). They are all natural, but they do contain more than just veggies. I really hate veggies (corn, potatoes, broccoli cooked till it's mush, and lettuce are about the only regulars I can handle), so I cheat a little by having these soups. They contain things like "organic reduced fat milk," "organic cane sweetener," "sea salt," and "organic rice flour" as well as spices and whatnot. If you're trying to be super-good on the fruit/veggies days, I wouldn't recommend it, but as for me , I would starve if I had to eat real veggies instead of soup Oh, and also, they are creamy soups--no vegetable chucnks at all.
A veggie chili does sound good. I was thinking of making a veggie soup and just using some organic no-salt-added chicken broth as my liquid base (the veggies being potatoes, corn, broccoli, maybe some chopped spinach, onion...nothing too exciting). That will all have to wait till I've got more time (worked 11 hours yesterday ) and more desire to be in the kitchen (as I'm not much of a fan of cooking).
dawgfan--I have a hard time with the nuts, too. I hear that as a pretty common problem. It's just too difficult to control my portion sizes, especially when an actual serving of nuts is so small!
I can't wait to get off my self-inflicted 4 straight days of fruits and veggies (well, fruits, salads, and veggie soups, anyway). I works for me, though--when I feel myself losing control over food, if I get insanely strict for a few days, then it makes me appreciate even healthy foods. On my 3 days off this weekend, I'm looking forward to some turkey sausage (cooked it in a crockpot with red and green bell peppers--which I won't eat, but they're good for flavor--onion, garlic, tomato paste, white cooking wine, and spices), some Subway (no mayo, no cheese), and maybe a black bean concoction I've been thinking of (black beans, salsa, corn, garlic, onion, and maybe a splash of chicken broth to make it almost soupy). Of course, I'll have my Chinese chicken for lunch tomorrow, and now we're doing a secret shop at a diner on Saturday night, but I can still be "splurging" if I get a burger with a salad instead of fries
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Dobie
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Posted: 15 September 2006 05:59 pm |
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jillybean720 wrote: Dobie--I bought the soups at Trader Joe's (they're TJ brand). If you're trying to be super-good on the fruit/veggies days, I wouldn't recommend it
Ah, thanks then. I am trying to be strick. I have lost 40lbs to 215, but I think that 190 will be a good weight to try and maintain. With that, I am trying my best to get motivated to kick it down and strict is best for me when I can (i.e. distractions such as traveling, guests, birthday partys, days ending in "y", etc.)
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jillybean720
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Posted: 18 September 2006 01:55 pm |
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ARGH, I did it again--went WAY overboard on my 3 days off I won't even go into the disgusting food porn details...it was just bad. I ate pretty much everything in sight and then some. I had great intentions and plans in place ahead of time, but intentions and plans don't lose weight unless you actually stick to them!
Ahh well...can only move on from here. I did have too much pizza yesterday (translate: way too much sodium), so as per usual, much of my gain will go away pretty quickly because it's just excess water retention, so I'll be chugging water like there's no tomorrow for the next few days!
Back on my plan today (and it is MY plan--foods I chose). I even made a big batch of turkey meatballs (no breadcrumbs!) to last me through a bunch of my "lean ground turkey" meals this week for something a bit different. Hope everyone else had a better weekend--off to eat my eggs for breakfast!
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Dobie
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Posted: 18 September 2006 05:45 pm |
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jillybean720 wrote: ARGH, I did it again--went WAY overboard on my 3 days off I won't even go into the disgusting food porn details...it was just bad. I ate pretty much everything in sight and then some. I had great intentions and plans in place ahead of time, but intentions and plans don't lose weight unless you actually stick to them!
Ahh well...can only move on from here. I did have too much pizza yesterday (translate: way too much sodium), so as per usual, much of my gain will go away pretty quickly because it's just excess water retention, so I'll be chugging water like there's no tomorrow for the next few days!
Back on my plan today (and it is MY plan--foods I chose). I even made a big batch of turkey meatballs (no breadcrumbs!) to last me through a bunch of my "lean ground turkey" meals this week for something a bit different. Hope everyone else had a better weekend--off to eat my eggs for breakfast!
Jill, its okay. I know you hate it and I am sorry it happened, but take it as your break and tell yourself that you needed it, you did it, and now you can take a few cheat weekends a bit more seriously and compound the progress on the possitive. We all need a break down weekend here and there.
You are clearly under control and rebounding well, so keep it up!
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Posted: 19 September 2006 05:52 am |
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Hi Everyone,
After some research this weekend, I decided to go ahead and try the plan. Today is my first day, and so far so good. I should be having my final meal here in a little while, but today went ok.
Here's one question for some of you: since some of the food combos for each meal are a little odd (i.e. peanuts and scrambled eggs), which I know you don't have to eat everything listed...does anyone have a hard time explaining to others why you're eating what you're eating? For instance, a girl at my work today gave me a strange look when she saw me eating just turkey and pastrami. She knows I have started a diet but probably wondered what the #%@&! i was doing!
Anyway, I'm hoping all will work well for me. My overall goal is about 20-25 pounds. I usually can lose about 7-10, but then end up going right back up again. :(
Erin
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jillybean720
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Posted: 19 September 2006 01:46 pm |
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Welcome, Erin! In response to your questions, I don't explain anything to anybody! People have been looking at me and thinking I'm fat for years, so if they look at me and think I'm eating strange foods, what's the difference? If it's such a big deal to them, they'll ask you about it, and you can just explain it's part of your plan. Being the fat girl (and maybe you haven't experienced this since you don't have much to lose), I'd rather have them give me a funny look for eating some sandwich meat than to give me a pity look for eating a cake or something
Dobie--you're right...I rebounded with gusto! I stuck to my eating plan 100% and even got in extra exercise. I had been trying to do 1 lap around my block (3/4 mile) 4 times a week, but yesterday I was so frustrated, I did 4 laps instead (3 miles). Woohoo! Oh, and I drank 5.5 liters of water, so some of that sodium and #%@&! from the weekend best be getting drowned out
Oh, and Erin--the WL4I plan changed a while back, so now there's the "new" plan and the "old" plan. If you hear me talk about foods that are never on your plan, it's because I'm on the old plan. On my plan, most of the meals are just 1 food instead of a combination of foods. Of course, it can still be strange to just eat "lean ground turkey" with nothing else as a meal, so I still understand where you're coming from
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Posted: 19 September 2006 07:48 pm |
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Erin:
The diet generator does mix some strange combinations, but you just have to work with it using some common sense. What I do is not eat peanuts with scrambled eggs. Even though the generated diet couples them, I understand that the meal is a protein meal, so I just add peanuts to another of my protein meals if I want them or leave them out if I don't want or need them. If it says to eat chicken, but I prefer ham, then I change that protein. This gives a bit of flexibility without compromising the integrity of the diet. One day, I ate chicken as all of my protein meals, no eggs or ham etc. So far I have lost 17 pounds in 24 days. Keep the water going. It is crucial. Good luck, you will do great!!
Barry
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mitzi
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Posted: 20 September 2006 04:58 pm |
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Hey there, I just started this diet and I love it!! I lost 3 lbs the first 2 days. I am trying to lose baby weight. I did LA Weight loss after I had my daughter and lost 20 lbs but I tried that again after I had my son and I lost 4 lbs and then slowly gained it back all the while staying on the plan!
This plan is great because it breaks it down into 11 day pods so it doesn't feel like 'forever'. You just think I only have to do this for 11 days. Also there are really tough days on this plan like one day where you only get fruit and a sandwhich and another where you get only veggies, but since it only lasts one day you feel that you can do it. I also think the food is easy and portable. I am mom to a 2yr old an 5 month old so we are always on the go but I can easily take a meal with me with a little forthought.
Good luck!
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mitzi
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Posted: 20 September 2006 05:02 pm |
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The fruit/sandwich day and the all veggie day are TOUGH!!
The good thing is it's only one day so it's actually do able! Also I just had the fruit day yest so it makes the day after seem downright decadent...scrambled eggs with cheese??? Hook me up!
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jillybean720
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Posted: 20 September 2006 05:39 pm |
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Welcome, mitzi! Sounds like you've got a great mentality about the plan--I'm sure your baby weight will be off in no time!
As for me, new plan: I'm going off the menus for the rest of this week and will begin a new menu cycle on Sunday. I decided to do this because I looked at a calandar yesterday and realized I'm going on vacation in 2 weeks! So by starting the menus on Sunday, I'll be on my 3 off-menu days when my vacation starts
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mitzi
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Posted: 21 September 2006 12:02 am |
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Questions for the experts:
on fruit day can you eat any fruits? Can I substitute mangos for peaches and pomegranites for kiwi's? Just thinking that a lot of fruit choices on the plan are about to go out of season big time.
Also veterans of the plan, how do the days off go at the end of a cycle? Do you find yourselves gaining back a lot of weight?
Last question:
Holy eggs batman! I'm supposed to eat scrambled for b fast and hard boiled in the pm. That's a lot of cholesterol! Yikes! Has anyone had problems with this?
Thanks!
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beegoood
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Posted: 21 September 2006 06:30 am |
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Mitzi:
Yes, you can substitute fruits, as long as they are on the list. Remember, some fruit has more carbs than other, thus the list. On the eggs, you can do the egg whites and avoid the yokes, which is where all of the fat is or you can substitute a lean meat, like chicken or turkey. The key thing here is to remember that we are really just dealing with two factors. Those two are carbs and proteins. At the end of the cycles, use your new learned eating skills and stay on the water and eat as many similar snacks and meals , just like the diet. If you splurge just a little each day, you will not gain much weight back and it will come right off as you begin the next cycle. I hope that this information is helpful. Also, look in the recipe section for creative ideas. Just use common sense and consider each one carefully, based on the ingredients that are being used. Good luck. I am down 18 pounds in 25 days so far, so it works.
Barry
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Posted: 21 September 2006 05:11 pm |
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Barry, Wow! 18 lbs in 25 days!! Congratulations, that's pretty inspiring...thanks for the tips!
-Mitzi
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jillybean720
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Posted: 21 September 2006 05:59 pm |
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| Yeah, don't follow my example with the 3 off-menu days at the end of each cycle. I'd lost 13 pounds in my first 11 days, and then gained back a bunch of it in just 3 days! Of course, some of it was water weight (my off-menu days are on the weekends, which is when I have the hardest time remembering to drink enough water as it is. plus I ate out, so I had a lot more sodium than during the menu days), and it all went away during the next cycle (plus some), but it's frustrating nonetheless, so avoid that frustration by allowing yourself some treats but still staying within reason on your off-menu days instead of going crazy
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Posted: 21 September 2006 10:37 pm |
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So, I have been reading over this forum for quite a few weeks now. I decided to try out the diet on Friday (now it is Thursday). So far I have lost 5 lbs with a goal of 20. I am very excited to read what everyone is saying about this diet. It is kinda strange, but why knock it if it works.
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