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JoAnn from Street, Maryland Senior Member

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Posted: 27 August 2008 09:34 pm |
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Hey Slim, where in the suburbs of MD are you? I'm up here in Harford County not far from Rocks. Good points, protein, protein, protein and most of us are carb resistant, hence I have never had the yogurt or any of the bread choices. The beans even scared me. I use to rinse them first. Carbs also bloat you and make you have water retention. I even gain after fruit day. Also, it has been written up a lot lately in nursing journals, mags and the newspaper that walking burns more belly fat then sit ups and other exercises for that target area. I walk alot. I walk an hour in 1 direction so I have to walk an hour back. I know it's easier for me because I live at the beach in the summer and I find myself strolling. I went from 20 minute miles to 16 minute power walking. At home I have hills, no boardwalk or beach, so it much more boring. I hope I can keep it up during the winter. MY MANTRA....
WALKING WORKS!! NO WHITE CARBS!!! EAT MORE PROTEIN!!!
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 27 August 2008 09:37 pm |
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Hi folks! Wasn't being notified of recent posts again! Out of sight out of mind, I guess, but I've been thinking of you all. Love the talk of big pants. I mean pants that once were NOT big - formerly referred to as "fat retardant pants." For me this refers to my summer shorts, which, last summer, struggled to contain my girth. Today I slide them on without even having to undo the zipper, and must tighten my belt to the 5th hole so's to keep them from falling down! This is by way of stressing to those of you struggling that even if your weight loss has slowed, this diet will maintain your losses. I'm a happy camper at 181... used to be 208... would love to be 175... but hey, it's all good. I have a few thoughts nonetheless:
Toodles... I could be wrong, but my guess is you're not eating enough at each meal. Counterintuitive, I know, but trying to survive on what you're eating would be impossible for me. You're not firing up your metabolism. So treat yourself to more food.
You're on your 19th cycle? I've been at this since Dec. 15th of '07 and believe me, it's easy to maintain. I love this way of eating. I've lost more weight than you have but think of it this way... you haven't gained! Typically, we add about a pound of weight each year after 40... and you haven't. So a big pat on the back to you!
Big waves to SS and Losing and Amj... and all the rest. Patience, my friends. Slow and steady wins the race.
Have to laugh that the promised exchange of August beach photos never materialized! I guess we're not quite as extroverted as we thought! That's probably for the best in this age of the internet. You never know where that pic of you in a bathing suit is going to wind up!
Cheers,
Larry
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Annie Senior Member

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Posted: 27 August 2008 09:38 pm |
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Thanks Snowbird! Already checked out your recipes. I make one similar with the craisins and sunflower seeds. Only I don't think mine uses any cheese - gotta try that. And, I add smoked paprika instead of the bacon called for in the original recipe I had - which also called for raisins instead of the craisins. The gals in Wisconsin, where I grew up, call it "Woodtick Salad!"
Anyway, appreciate the recipes - going to definitely try that green bean salad, too. It looks really good.
Annie
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 27 August 2008 10:10 pm |
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Slim, great advice for Toodles. If you don't mind, I will also "borrow" some of the advice for myself. I have found that I am not losing as much as before and this morning was really upsetting. For the first 4 cycles I lost 1.5 lbs. on Day 3 (after fruit day). Cycle 5 I lost 2 lbs! Now I am on cycle 6 and after struggling through fruit day yesterday, I only lost 1/2 a pound! Ugggh! I know, the everyday weigh-ins are not recommended but I like to see what is going on after I eat. Who knows, maybe it will show tomorrow. But I thought that was strange, as I always have lost a decent amount after fruit day. That is what makes me talk myself into struggling through! Anyways, I saw your suggestion about changing the meals to more proteins as opposed to carbs and fats and a lightbulb came on. I always choose the same foods, every cycle and I eat alot of sausage, hard boiled eggs, cheese slices (my weakness), and I always choose the frozen yogurt (but eat it modestly only once or twice a cycle). I am thinking that maybe the reason I am getting slower now is all the fat/carb choices and I need to switch it up a bit. Thanks!
I also need to start exercising as I know that will help tremendously. I quit my gym last year, as I felt I was getting nowhere. I was doing the treadmill and started weight machines but didn't lose, as I was not dieting at the time. I gave up too easy, but now that I am dieting and have lost weight, I know I will do much better.
Toodles, I agree with Slim about rechecking your thyroid with an endocrinologist. They are finding that the TSH and T1 and T3 levels they use to check to determine this, are often overlooked if you are a little under or over and they are redefining the levels considered to be borderline or under/over. Or, just find out what your results were for those levels and then research - what they are saying could be why many people are oftern not diagnosed when they actually ARE hypothyroid. It makes all the difference in the world, getting a whacked out thyroid back in action. I feel like a different person now. Just my thoughts on this subject...
Bostonchick - I know, I am being so good, thanks to you! It really helps to be accountable. Otherwise, yesterday I might have not made it through fruit day. I was so grumpy after the 3 fruit meals. When I got home from work I was typing a post to the forum which was quite lengthy, and I accidentally hit a button and everything was wiped out... the whole post gone. I was so upset I almost started crying. I got up and decided to make my deli sandwich before I had a complete meltdown! hahaha
Have a wonderful day everyone!
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 27 August 2008 10:28 pm |
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Webfairy... the inconvenient truth about regular exercise is that it really doesn't factor into weight loss that much. Before I started FL4I, I was killing myself in my gym every day and not losing an ounce. Now, that exercise was good for me, of course, but clearly it wasn't having any weight loss effect. I only started to lose the weight after I changed what I ate. Weight training and aerobic exercise will strengthen and tone you for sure, but you won't see those muscles under the layers of fat unless you eat right. People think if they do a hundred sit-ups every day they'll see six-pack abs. Not true. What we eat, when we eat... that's the key.
So if any of you here are beating yourselves up for not exercising enough... stop. Sure, the more muscle you have the more calories you'll burn in a resting state, but that serves mostly to maintain your weight, not to reduce it. We're struggling enough with our weight... there's no point in adding the guilt of not exercising. Stick with the plan... and you just might find that the more the fat disappears, the more you'll feel like exercising. It's a complimentary thing, not a cause an effect.
Best,
Larry
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 27 August 2008 10:35 pm |
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Larry, thanks for the advice. I have read that before, as well. But now that I have lost the weight (and still have more to go) I am feel like I went from fat to flabby. Yes, I didn't "feel" like exercising before and I am more motivated to start now, due to the weight loss, as you say. Still, I am glad you said that, because I was feeling crummy for not exercising and blaming that on losing weight at a slower rate. Of course, that cannot be it. I lost all this weight so far without exercising so it did not have an effect on the loss. Duh!
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anam New Member
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Posted: 27 August 2008 11:18 pm |
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hi guys!! hpe ur all well! i havnt bin on here for a long time! im still 10st5lbs, strugling to lose the last 13 lbs!
i need abit of advice.......... u c, next monday the month of ramadhan starts and i will be fasting from 4 in the morning till 8pm everyday for a month! im not sure what to do. with only 3 wks till uni and 13 pounds to shed i dnt knw how its gna be feasible! they say that lots of ppl actually gain weight in ramadhan becos our bodies just store what we eat! i personally think that there must be a way to carry out the practice of these fasts and lose weight at the same time, with ofcors the right guidance on how to do it! im not sure what i shud be eating! we normally eat at 4 before the fast starts then in the evening at 8, im not sure what i should be eating, and cud i utilise this experience to also lose weight at the same time?
id REALI appreciate sum advice
tkcre
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 28 August 2008 12:02 am |
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anam... dieting and the holy month! Oh my! You'd think 2 meals a day for a month would help, but it doesn't. Your body, in fast mode, will panic a bit and store fat. That's just what the body does. It's a survival thing.
My guess is you won't gain too much weight, but don't expect to lose any, either. It's just something you have to go through. Religious observances are more important than any diet. Tend to your heart and soul and in a month resume your diet plan. All will be well.
My only suggestion is to remember that when you do eat, don't overeat, but don't under-eat either. You need to maintain your stength so you don't get weak or light-headed during the day. Question from the uninformed: Can you have a protein shake during the day? Or are all forms of nourishment off the table?
Best,
Larry
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Toodles New Member
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Posted: 28 August 2008 03:31 am |
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Thanks Web Fairy, JoAnn, Annie, Amjacie, Omayra, Eglaviel, Lets go, Slim, Larry and everyone else for your suggestions and support. I will try the suggestions by all you caring folks and perhaps I’ll get my metabolism going once and for all. I have noticed that when I eat more at my 4 meals, I seem to have better luck. I haven’t lost lots of weight like all you "LOSERS" but like Larry said, at least I haven’t packed on pounds – I’m just struggling to keep right where I am. I’m confident it will go down eventually, hey, look at all you guys!!
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bostonchick Senior Member

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Posted: 28 August 2008 01:10 pm |
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Good morning everyone, I have survived fruit day. But i am in such a funk...I think my loss of control over the last week has caused it. I know I am not supposed to weigh but I am feeling so bloated etc...I had to check it out and I am down 2 of the almost 8 I have put on.... I need to pick up my mood and myself and get back the control and great feeling i had the first 2 cycles. I am very thankful for the support on this site and although I might not write every day I do read and get inspired by everyone...
Webfairy, thanks for the encouragement and keep up the great work. We will survive this...
Ill check in later. Colleen
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Amjacie Senior Member

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Posted: 28 August 2008 02:48 pm |
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Good morning everyone! 
On my way to work, but wanted to say congrats to Army! 7 pounds is fantastic!!  
Hi Larry! Good to see you! We've been missing you!
I am currently on my 14th cycle, fourth day! Hoping for good results this time!
I wish I had more time to post to everyone, but I have to run, so know that I am pulling for everyone! We can do this!
Have an awesome day! 
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anam New Member
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Posted: 28 August 2008 03:54 pm |
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hey larry... thanx 4 ur advice...u cannot eat nething at all during the fasting period, even if its medicine..ur advised if u need to take medicie to not fast at all in that case, as a fast shud not be detrimental to ur health
larry...ive got a theory im not sure if itl work...u say to not eat 2 much or little, but then im nt sure what types of food to at eitha...so i was thinking y not follow the fl4i plan? i
was thinking i cud eat at 8pm, 10.30pm,1pm,3.30pm...those are 4 meals all 2 1/2 hrs apart...ad i can eat the foods as told by our diet? is that possible...my only concern is ill be eating late, slyping, then fasting all day? the hrs are weird but do u think itll work?? as a more experiencesd person id apreciate the advice from u, thanx
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webfairy Moderator

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Posted: 28 August 2008 05:50 pm |
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Good morning everyone! One more day until Friday.. YAY! Monday is a holiday and I took Tuesday off so I am looking forward to a nice relaxing 4 day weekend. 
Bostonchick- Yes, we WILL do it. Yesterday I was a little bummed as I mentioned that I always lose at least 1.5 lbs the day after fruit day, and I had only lost .5 this cycle. I thought, oh no... even the day after fruit day is going slower now! What will be my motivation for fruit day in the future? BUT... when I got on the scale this morning, Day 4 of Cycle 6, I had lost 2 lbs!!! I am sooooooo happy today. Committing with you has really made a difference on my water consumption, too. I have been strict on drinking the 10 glasses and the last couple days it has not been hard at all! That is amazing for me. So thank you for your dedication, and realize that we are already 1/3 through this cycle. Keep thinking of the glass half full (with respect to the hard parts and what we are accomplishing). When it comes to drinking water, though, I would prefer to think of the glass half empty!
Have a wonderful day everyone, and remember WE CAN DO IT! As a matter of fact, we ARE doing it!
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 28 August 2008 05:51 pm |
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anam... eating in the middle of the night is not a good thing to do. For starters, you'll have to disrupt your sleep - and it's important that we get the proper rest. I think you'll be okay with a meal around 10PM and another one around midnight. The meal at midnight shouldn't be too heavy. Try fruit salad with whatever topping you like (I do non-fat yogurt). Then have your third meal in the morning, and make sure it's a protein meal. Good luck!
Toodles... Bostonchick... nothing good comes easy. You'll be fine. The alternative is just not worth it!
Larry
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z1434eva Senior Member

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Posted: 28 August 2008 06:58 pm |
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| Good morning to all! Hope all is well, and everyone is feeling better. I survived fruit day.... It is getting easier to make it through though.....Maybe it's because I've got a bit of a stuffed up nose....I'm not super hungry....I still like veggie day best! I am so happy to hear about the dropping of pant sizes...way to go!!! A funny thing happened over the weekend....We had our annual church picnic, and I was visiting with my dad...after him and my mom had left he asked my mom if I had been losing weight...and that I looked really good.....I was wearing a cute dress, (I admit...it looked good) But to have my dad compliment me...wow! I've lost about 10 lbs total in my 3 cycles and havent noticed toooo much of a difference, but man was it nice to get that thumbs up! Keep up the good work everyone! Thanks for being here each and every day with encouragment and that virtual pat on the back for all our acomplishments! Have a great day!
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SlimNeel Senior Member

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Posted: 28 August 2008 08:56 pm |
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JoAnn from Street, Maryland wrote: Hey Slim, where in the suburbs of MD are you? I'm up here in Harford County not far from Rocks. Good points, protein, protein, protein and most of us are carb resistant, hence I have never had the yogurt or any of the bread choices. The beans even scared me. I use to rinse them first. Carbs also bloat you and make you have water retention. I even gain after fruit day. Also, it has been written up a lot lately in nursing journals, mags and the newspaper that walking burns more belly fat then sit ups and other exercises for that target area. I walk alot. I walk an hour in 1 direction so I have to walk an hour back. I know it's easier for me because I live at the beach in the summer and I find myself strolling. I went from 20 minute miles to 16 minute power walking. At home I have hills, no boardwalk or beach, so it much more boring. I hope I can keep it up during the winter. MY MANTRA....
WALKING WORKS!! NO WHITE CARBS!!! EAT MORE PROTEIN!!!
Hey JoAnn, I am in Montgomery County- Gaithersburg. I have been to Harford County couple of times, isn't it very scenic ....I really liked it when I was house hunting few years back but then settled here b'coz of our jobs...
You lucky girl..you live at the beach...wow...so even exercise (walking) is a treat for you.....now I am jealous lol
And you noted it absolutely right- I have seen so much change in me- physically and mentally, after lossing 15 lbs...I started at 176 and now am at 161 in three months....I dont have the disciplin to exactly follow the diet, but I do follow the basic principle of water, walk and calorie shifting with very few grains and white/instant carbs. As its working for me, I am happy slimming down this way!! I feel walking also boost my metabolism a lot and as its well known, exercise releases feel good harmones and that keeps me motivated to not put junk in my mouth. And it has increased my stamina sooooo much...I am so much more active now....it feels so good!!!
Hope everyone is having a good day, its been cloudy/rainy/soggy day    here in washington metro area today- So I am enjoying a quick homemade tomato soup-
Just heated a huge cup of Tomato juice in microwave, added a little salt/pepper and a tsp pesto....yum yum  and floated a torn-up slice of mozz cheese on it....yum yum yum...  (You can add a pinch of splenda if you want it slightly sweet).
Lol to everyone ,
Slim
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losingwt Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 04:06 am |
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Hello all,
WOW! So much information has been passed here in the past week--I've been absent in "vacation payback mode"--catching up...it (vacation) was still well worth it, though!
Well,Toodles, I think you've gotten a lot of great tips, but I both feel for you and have tremendous respect for you and your patience and endurance on this diet. I agree with what others have said about exercise, both that it's not the key to weight loss and that it can help...Confusing, I know. Let me try to explain. When Larry said that he had been exercising faithfully and not experiencing any weight or fat loss until this diet, I completely related. The same was true for me. I had never stopped moving. However, after I began this diet and jump-started my metabolism, exercise seemed to get me off the plateau I experienced after the first couple of cycles. And the form of exercise was--tip of the hat to JoAnn here --walking. I also joined a local tennis league (and I'm a perpetual beginner), but having fun exercising is a pretty cool thing. So the combination of different exercise--and this great diet--has helped me greatly. I hope I haven't repeated something someone else has said--I tried to read thoroughly, but I'm also listening to Mr. Obama speak, so...In any case, best of luck to you.
I'm so glad to hear about the many successes here. Larry, those loose shorts are the best, huh? JoAnn, I so agree about the portions being smaller. I like your stomach banding analogy. I just can't eat what I used to, try as I might on those "choice days"
   
I'm having a pretty good cycle; I'm on day 6, so veggie day looms, but I actually have come to love veggie day. Here's me: broiled tomato pizzas for breakfast, greek salad for lunch (with my ounce of cheese being feta), ratatouille with grated parm for dinner, and some leftover ratatouille a couple of hours before bed. EVERY time! Wow, am I boring! But it works...
Here's to continued or renewed success for all of us...
Hello to SS (hope you're still feeling better), Amjacie, Hiker, Larry, JoAnn, Kitty, LGCubs, Slim, Zeva, Omayra, anam, webfairy, and all the rest of you!!! I am so glad you're all "here"!
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 04:56 am |
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losingwt~ hi, glad to see you back. i also loved grilled tomato pizza slices for breakfast on veggie day. i also like a bowl of edamame for my fourth meal before bedtime. i pretend it's popcorn!! as i pop them out of the pods.
i am finishing up my last day of my 8th cycle. had some cravings the last 2 days, but not as bad as last cycle. this cycle i chose maybe 18-20 items. i only got frozen yogurt once and it wasn't yesterday or today....anyway, i'll see how my weigh in goes tomorrow. i am looking forward to a piece of raisin bread and a fried egg. i can't eat a fried egg, if i can't dip some bread in the yolk.
Larry and SS~hi! glad to see you both back too! so lar, you replace whip cream with low fat (regular) yogurt when you have your fruit salad??? my husband like the activia vanilla yogurt, you think that would work for a change from whip cream? wouldn't there be more sugar in yogurt tho..
and congratulations to all the loose pants gang....i just gave my mom some that don't fit me anymore...i love this diet
have a good night...
kitty
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omayra Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 02:42 pm |
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| It's my 5th day on this cycle and I've gained a pound. This time I haven't cheated. Was it a mistake to start this cycle a day early?
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losingwt Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 02:50 pm |
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Omayra, I would say just to wait until day 12 before you weigh again. I don't think starting a day early is a hugely significant factor. Could be many things including hormones, etc. Just keep doing what you're doing and pay attention to those portions (and, of course, remember the ...
Good luck!
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skarlas991 New Member
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Posted: 29 August 2008 03:07 pm |
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Hi everyone. Yesterday was veggie day for me. It was horrible. Well, compared to when I was on curves diet, it was really not that bad but I was used to feeling no hunger and no cravings on this diet, you know? But it paid off and I lost another pound. I'm just afraid it will all come back during the 3day break. I almost don't want it to come.
Yesterday, my mom (who weighs 10lbs less than me) went through her closet and gave me few dresses that look "too young" for her. And they fit! The happiness you get from looking in the mirror is really worth giving up chocolate. Half of what's in my closet, I used to not wear because it was too small for me. Soon I may not be able to wear them because they're too big! (hmm maybe it's not a good thing)
Anyway, I simply love this diet. Seriously the best 40 bucks I (my parents) spent!
-Mindy
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 03:12 pm |
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Good Morning Everyone!
I had a very good 8th cycle...I started this cycle at 141.5 and my weigh in this morning....135.5!! This is the first cycle i have had where i actually lost weight at the end of the cycle....i ususally lose in the beginning and maintain the rest of the way. but i haven't had this much loss since my first cycle....so maybe, and I hate to say this, maybe for me, only having the frozen yogurt once may have something to do with it??? I started this diet the first week in may @ 155. 4 months 20 pounds. It doesn's feel like 4 months. I have 10 more pounds to go!!
gotta run...i'll check in later.
kitty
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losingwt Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 03:21 pm |
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Good for you, Skarlas--hope the clothes do end up too big; that's what belts are for ! Better than too small anyway!
Kitty, Congratulations! That is an amazing cycle! And, btw, you and I have the same weight goal. I started at 159 and at last weigh-in, I was 132, although I had been as low as 129. (This summer has been a bit of a wreck for me, b/c of too much fun--I guess there are much worse problems ). Anyway, enjoy those choice days and your fried egg with raisin bread! You have earned it!
Have a great weekend, everyone!
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 03:45 pm |
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losing wt~thanks...how many cycles have you done?? I agree the summer is tough, because of things like graduations, bbq's, vacations, etc. i have fallen into this as well!!!I have 2 friends who started this diet and stopped because they didn't have 11 straight days to do the diet. wow! 129 i can hardly wait to see that !! good 4 u!
kitty
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 04:14 pm |
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AK_~ just heard on the news...your gov. is mccain's vp choice!!!

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skarlas991 New Member
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Posted: 29 August 2008 05:11 pm |
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losingwt- Thanks! but I hope my clothes don't get too big. Some of them are quite expensive. I bought them years ago to motivate me to lose weight but now they are doing the opposite!
Kitty- I think you're right about frozen yogurt. On the days I had them, I always gained or maintained pounds. But they are the only things I look forward to...
I was so encouraged at the fact that you lost 6lbs on your 8th cycle. Are there any tips you can give me? I'm only on my 1st cycle but I'm so worried that I will hit a plateau.
-Mindy
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 05:14 pm |
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kitty... I put non-fat, sucralose-sweetened yogurt on my fruit salad (sometimes) because it's so much better for you than the chemical, palm oil soup that is Cool Whip. Mostly I use Yoplait Source, which has just 35 calories per serving. I just use enough to add flavour (usually strawberry). Hope this helps.
Larry
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Annie Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 05:15 pm |
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Congratulations to all who had a good weigh-in result today!  ..........I can't say the same for me, though. I'm actually 1.8 pounds more than at the end of last cycle. Nobody to blame but myself. I went out of town last weekend and although I didn't really overeat, I didn't follow the plan at all.
Oh well, I'm just going to end this cycle, take my cheat weekend and start over fresh on Monday. But, just for kicks, I'll weigh tomorrow. I fluctuate so much it sometimes takes a full day after for the loss to show on my scales.
Cheers!
Annie
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Eglaviel New Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 05:18 pm |
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Well...today was weigh-in day...and according to my scale...I gained a pound! Keeping in mind that I didn't weigh myself after my last 3-day, so I don't really know if I lost anything from that. Still, it was rather discouraging as I KNOW I look different...my stomach is starting to have definition...I've been having to wear a belt...and the scale shows a gain. I mean, I walk 4 miles EVERY day and my mom walks 6.
My mom lost 1 pound...which was great, but she also felt like it should have been more. So...we talked about it and now have a new plan! We generated our new menu and left off as much fruit as possible, took out all the dessert options and are planning to eat less meat than before! Our hope is to REALLY SHOCK our bodies!!
We are figuring that since we have actually been rather tired on this diet, we have been having to much "sugar" and so hope to change that with our new diet menu!!
Still, we are going to keep going on this diet, because regardless of the scale...we ARE looking different!! (in a good way)
Wasn't the best way to start a 3-day though...
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 05:23 pm |
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Eglavie... it's okay to get a bit discouraged, and you're doing the right thing by turning that to your advantage and trying a few tweaks here and there. There's no doubt that limiting sugar will help. Please let us know what the scale says next time!
Best,
Larry
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AK_Snowbird Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 06:45 pm |
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Good Morning All,
Just watched Palins acceptance speach!! WOW, how exciting!!!She has done so much for Alaska in the short time she has been governor.
Well cycle 3 ended with a 3/4 lb loss. Yeah!! That makes a total of 8-3/4 lbs !!! I sure hope going to the fair tonight doesn't mess things up but I know my stomach doesn't hold as much now, which is a good thing
Congrats to ALL the losers!! and to those of you that have gained or remained the same, just hang in there I'm sure eventually you'll see change soon.
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 08:08 pm |
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AK... congrats on the 8 and 3/4's! Really great work! I'd sidestep the corn dogs tonight but hey, it's the Fair!
We in Canada are watching the US election closely. Palin's entry into the fray will really spice things up, not that your election needed more spice! Very interesting.
Now back to the important stuff: the next weigh-in! 
Lar
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AK_Snowbird Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 08:15 pm |
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| Thanks Larry, Don't have to worry about the corn-dogs but the giant cream puffs,now THAT'S another story!!! but like you said it's the fair and that's the only place you can get these particular cream puffs. I also have a weakness for pepperoni sticks, which are pepperoni and cheese wrapped in fresh bread dough and baked and then you dip them in marinara sauce Yummy I'll justify them with all the walking RIGHT? LOL
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letsGOcubs Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 08:22 pm |
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KITTY: Congrats on that huge weight loss. You and I are running neck and neck. I was supposed to be doing my 5th cycle this week, but haven't really followed very closely. I'm not all that motivated since I leave for vacation this weekend. I know when you were on vacation you gained a few, and I know that will also happen to me (HOPEFULLY ONLY A FEW)! So, I'm just going to enjoy my vacation and be ready to start up again when I get back. (Monday the 8th).
AK: Congrats to you also on your weight loss. I thought I heard Sarah Palin is from Wasilla, did you know her by chance? How big a town is Wasilla? It will make for an interesting race for the White House.
Well friends, I'll be away for a week. We're headed to Cabo San Lucas in Mexico. Should be loads of seafood----I'll try to avoid the bread and sweets and maybe it won't add too many pounds to my frame!! STAY STRONG!
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sunshine Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 09:01 pm |
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Congrats to all who lost pounds OR INCHES!!
Thanks for all the thoughts..Ii'm feeling a lot better today!
EG...you and mom are doing the walking and probably gaining some muscle which is good weight...muscle is fat burning tissue so go by your measurements and how you look...what if the scale never budged and you lost two sizes ...would you be OK with the scale??...it is an interesting thing to consider!!
For those that are not losing...take an honest inventory of everything that passes your lips...sugarless gum, mints, candies, drinks...perhaps condiments etc....it could be that just one small thing is upsetting the way this diet works. You might try dropping the ketchup and bbq sauce(both have sugar and sometimes cause carb sensitive people to have insulin spikes and therefore store the meal as fat) unless it is sugarfree and make sure all your condiments have NO added sugar, honey etc. Just a thought!
painting today...can hardly wait to be done
Hello to everyone...you are all giving such amazing tips and suggestions...i have loved reading all your posts....the support and help here always is terrific!!!
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AK_Snowbird Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 09:03 pm |
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| Cubs, Thanks and have fun on your vacation,lucky you!!! I have only been to Mexico(Cozemel) once and it was a day excursion from the cruise ship. I have met Sara informally,once after pulling in her driveway to ask directions and the other time was when she spoke at a friends funeral. She's a very gracious lady. Wasilla is a growing city with a pop of about 40 thousand or so.
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 09:34 pm |
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llalonde wrote: kitty... I put non-fat, sucralose-sweetened yogurt on my fruit salad (sometimes) because it's so much better for you than the chemical, palm oil soup that is Cool Whip. Mostly I use Yoplait Source, which has just 35 calories per serving. I just use enough to add flavour (usually strawberry). Hope this helps.
Larry
hi larry,
Thanks for the info... is sucralose an artificial sweetner? i won't eat cool whip either...i just whip up about a third of a pint of heavy cream, touch of vanilla, and a teaspoon of powder sugar.
kitty
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bostonchick Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 09:37 pm |
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Hi all, just wanted to check in. Everyone is doing so well. I have a long weekend here in Bermuda and I think the US does as well. So hope everyone has a great weekend and if it is a choice enjoy if not be good and if you can not be good be careful. I will check in on Tuesday. Webfairy I hope things are ok have not heard from you today. BYE Colleen
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 09:38 pm |
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Cubs~have a great trip. you will be fine...get some nuts and cheese for the room ..with all that fish you will be fine.
thanks for the support. my 14 jeans are very loose now
Be safe!

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z1434eva Senior Member

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Posted: 29 August 2008 09:52 pm |
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Howdy to Ak, Larry, Sunshine, Eg, Cubs, Kitty, Slim, Web,Annie, JoAnn, Toodles, Boston, Losing, Omayra, Skar.....and anyone else I may have forgotten....Sounds like everyone is doing great! All those loose pants, and wardrobe makeovers...it's so fun to find something you havent been able to wear in a while, and have it be too big! I am so proud to be part of this group. I am on day 4, and things are going smoothly so far.....This is the first cycle I dont have any tempting events to go to! School is starting up next week for my girls. I homeschool one who is in 1st grade, and the other I am sending off to school for the first time....she's going in to 2nd grade...I can't believe it! They really do grow up fast!
I had a question about the flaxseed some of you have been talking about. The benifits are fantastic, and I bought some Flaxseed oil for my hubby (for his arthritis) and for my girls. I would like to incorporate the seeds into my menu, but am not sure where the would fit in. With a carb meal, or protein? I dont want to disrupt my weight loss at all. So if any of you have a suggestion let me know.....Also, one more thing. If you were to fast for one day, no food at all, would you start up where you left off on the diet, or would you have to start all over? It's for my own personal reasons, not medical or anything. Again some of you senior members may be able to shine some light on this!
Thanks again....hope you are all having a wonderful day! Keep up the good work!!!!
Last edited on 29 August 2008 09:56 pm by z1434eva
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Annie Senior Member

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Posted: 30 August 2008 12:17 am |
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z1434eva wrote: Howdy to Ak, Larry, Sunshine, Eg, Cubs, Kitty, Slim, Web,Annie, JoAnn, Toodles, Boston, Losing, Omayra, Skar.....and anyone else I may have forgotten....Sounds like everyone is doing great! All those loose pants, and wardrobe makeovers...it's so fun to find something you havent been able to wear in a while, and have it be too big! I am so proud to be part of this group. I am on day 4, and things are going smoothly so far.....This is the first cycle I dont have any tempting events to go to! School is starting up next week for my girls. I homeschool one who is in 1st grade, and the other I am sending off to school for the first time....she's going in to 2nd grade...I can't believe it! They really do grow up fast!
I had a question about the flaxseed some of you have been talking about. The benifits are fantastic, and I bought some Flaxseed oil for my hubby (for his arthritis) and for my girls. I would like to incorporate the seeds into my menu, but am not sure where the would fit in. With a carb meal, or protein? I dont want to disrupt my weight loss at all. So if any of you have a suggestion let me know.....Also, one more thing. If you were to fast for one day, no food at all, would you start up where you left off on the diet, or would you have to start all over? It's for my own personal reasons, not medical or anything. Again some of you senior members may be able to shine some light on this!
Thanks again....hope you are all having a wonderful day! Keep up the good work!!!!
Zeva - about the flax seed - My package of milled flax seed says a serving (2 Tbsp.) has 60 calories~4 g carbs~4 g fiber~3 g protein. In the new way Atkins and others count the carbs, by subtracting the fiber from the carbs, this food has virtually no carbs, but it does have a minimal amount of protein. Someone smarter about FL4I than I am should be able to give us a better answer. I just use it every day, but my weight loss has been very slow. I guess when in doubt, maybe one should only use it during a mixed carb and protein meal? What does anyone think about that? 
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kitty Senior Member

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Posted: 30 August 2008 04:31 am |
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skarlas991 wrote: losingwt- Thanks! but I hope my clothes don't get too big. Some of them are quite expensive. I bought them years ago to motivate me to lose weight but now they are doing the opposite!
Kitty- I think you're right about frozen yogurt. On the days I had them, I always gained or maintained pounds. But they are the only things I look forward to...
I was so encouraged at the fact that you lost 6lbs on your 8th cycle. Are there any tips you can give me? I'm only on my 1st cycle but I'm so worried that I will hit a plateau.
-Mindy
I wouldn't worry about hitting a plateau yet. i did have a couple of cycles where i only loss 3-3 1/2 pounds, but i probably had some meals not on the plan. this cycle i eliminated ham. i have had ham on all the others. and like i said only one time for frozen yogurt, which i love. i have learned to eat what i want on cheat days, but in small quanities. water is very important too, even on cheat days. i think in all weight loss diets, people hit that plateau, but it will break eventually. just keep strict with each cycle the best you can. switch up on food choices. i have not exercised yet. i said after the 2nd one i better start and haven't yet. i want to start with light weights to tone and firm. so mindy, you can learn alot by reading maybe the last 10 pages or so for more tips. good luck and know we are all here to help each other.
kitty
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providence New Member

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Posted: 30 August 2008 10:59 am |
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i too was thinking about gthe flex seed question.
when do you eat it? with your meals or inbetween?
i was thinking of adding it to meals like fresh fruit, fruit sald, salad... cause those meals just aren't as filling...
need to go back working, take care and have a nice weekend :-)
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llalonde Senior Member

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Posted: 30 August 2008 03:16 pm |
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Kitty... the Yoplait Source non-fat strawberry yogurt I buy is sweetened with Splenda, which contains maltodextrin and sucralose. The Splenda is already in the yogurt; you don't add it, just to be clear. Splenda is an artificial sweetener, very low carbs. You can buy it in any grocery store. It tastes sweeter than real sugar so that means, if you're adding it to a shake, for example, you use much less. I add it to my oatmeal, for instance, along with cinammon. Pretty sure your body reacts to it as a sugar, but because you're using less there's the benefit.
If you can find fructose in your store, try it. It's fruit sugar, and your body deals with it differently than other kinds of sugar. But the main point is don't use regular sugar, brown sugar or honey.
Folks... About flaxseed: I don't add it to shakes often but it's great in them, and quite nice sprinkled on oatmeal or salads (gives a nice nutty flavor). I buy 100% certified organic brown flax seed, cold milled. That's the best. A cautionary note: It's fattening. 14g of fat per serving (roughly a tablespoon). And 9g carbs. So take it easy. A little here and there for flavor is fine, but don't make it a daily thing.
Larry
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llalonde Senior Member

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