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trainer3016
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Posted: 4 January 2008 05:41 pm |
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Hi,
My font is larger because its easier for me to see.
I work part-time at an athletic club and recently became a certified personal trainer. I'm an emotional binge eater. At times I don't "look the part". I believe many fall into this category. With my continued study in this area I hope to eliminate this behavior in my life and help clients do the same.
I look forward to learning and sharing in this forum.
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clarinetgurl
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Posted: 4 January 2008 06:21 pm |
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Hi trainer! Welcome to CPH! I'm sure you will find everything you need here.
CG:music
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Angel44
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Posted: 5 January 2008 07:48 pm |
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~Welcome Trainer~
I too am a BINGE EATER & A LATE NIGHT SNACKER. There are all sorts of people here. You will find what you are looking for on this board. I haven't been here long but I'm glad I'm here. I'm sure whatever you are looking for, you will find it here.
Angel44
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trainer3016
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Posted: 10 January 2008 02:36 am |
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Thanks Angel44. I so appreciate you taking the time to welcome me.
My experience with clients and club members is that many people suffer from emotional binge eating. This may be a topic for General Discussion - ie are you aware, prior to the actual binge, what sets it off and have you developed any strategies to negate to overwhelming urge?
Trainer
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Angel44
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Posted: 14 January 2008 11:54 pm |
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~Trainer~
I binge when I'm bored. A person can only do so much. Reading, exercise, etc... I love my food. And I eat even when I'm not hungry. I've been thinking about talking to a dietitian because I don't feel this is normal.
Angel44
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 15 January 2008 12:18 am |
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trainer3016 wrote: Are you aware, prior to the actual binge, what sets it off and have you developed any strategies to negate to overwhelming urge?
I'd suggest that you keep a journal to learn a little more about the cause of this. Read The Value of Keeping a Food Journal.
Peter
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trainer3016
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Posted: 17 January 2008 02:18 am |
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Peter,
Thanks for pointing that out - my mistake. I have my clients daily journal caloric intake and expenditure. Notes as to the type of day they've had, good or bad, often provide an insight as to the caloric activity for the day.
trainer3016
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suenos
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Posted: 17 January 2008 05:37 am |
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Hi Trainer and welcome! The emotional causes of binge eating are going to be as unique as the individual...but in my case I've identified two non-emotional causes that were a big help in eliminating the problem, you might want to see if either of these apply to you:
1. trigger foods. There are simply some foods (white rice, refined pasta, refined sugar) that I cannot eat because even a small portion will: way over-stimulates my appititer and/or sets off strong cravings for sweets and/or triggers the portion of my brain that says "eat, eat, eat" regardless of hunger. It sorta sucks cause I love sushi...but after 5 million attempts to convince myself that it was "all in my head" I had to conceed that the sticky white rice (yum) makes me wanna  uncontrollably.
2. Getting too hungry between meals. I absolutely, positively under no circumstances can skip an entire meal...I spent a lot of time "playing around" with the times and for me, it works out to roughly four hours...even if it's only a big apple & some nuts, if I go longer than 4 hours without taking food onboard (and I try to keep it to 3 actually) I have a really (really) hard time restraining myself from venturing into binge territory.
Good luck, and I'm sure if you keep searching, you'll find what works for you.
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trainer3016
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Posted: 17 January 2008 02:43 pm |
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suenos
I changed forums as the discussion was becoming specific. First let me thank you for responding.
Interesting - you tell me something I don't want to hear.  Whatever the emotional trigger for me, once I start the chocolate "binge" I can't stop until its all gone. I probably should do what you do - realize there are certain things I just can't eat.
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Imaw89
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Posted: 18 January 2008 02:04 am |
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suenos wrote: Hi Trainer and welcome! The emotional causes of binge eating are going to be as unique as the individual...but in my case I've identified two non-emotional causes that were a big help in eliminating the problem, you might want to see if either of these apply to you:
1. trigger foods. There are simply some foods (white rice, refined pasta, refined sugar) that I cannot eat because even a small portion will: way over-stimulates my appititer and/or sets off strong cravings for sweets and/or triggers the portion of my brain that says "eat, eat, eat" regardless of hunger. It sorta sucks cause I love sushi...but after 5 million attempts to convince myself that it was "all in my head" I had to conceed that the sticky white rice (yum) makes me wanna uncontrollably.
2. Getting too hungry between meals. I absolutely, positively under no circumstances can skip an entire meal...I spent a lot of time "playing around" with the times and for me, it works out to roughly four hours...even if it's only a big apple & some nuts, if I go longer than 4 hours without taking food onboard (and I try to keep it to 3 actually) I have a really (really) hard time restraining myself from venturing into binge territory.
Good luck, and I'm sure if you keep searching, you'll find what works for you.
I'm glad I read this post because I think I have a few "trigger foods" as you explained in your first paragraph. I can eat uncontrollably when I eat pasta because even after my 5th bowl of pasta, I can go back for another and then eat a bowl of cereal and still have that "close to full" feeling that I want to fill.
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1seekspie
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Posted: 19 January 2008 02:06 pm |
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I'm a semi-binger but more of a late night snacker myself.
It all depends on the situation with me. I recently experienced my first "finals-week" and boy was it STRESSFUL! I didn't even realize how stressed I was until I took my last test in Geography and my friend said it looked as though I'd been crying! Luckily my grades are secure for the semester so I can let go of a little stress. Unfortunately my body has experienced a kind of crashing and eating is the only thing that makes me feel better physically. I haven't really over-eaten though my stomach is acting strangely so I don't really know what's going on  .
I confess to being a late night snacker but have luckily kept my late-night morsels fruit. I used to binge a lot without realizing it. Last year I'd only eat a little during the breakfast/lunch hours (not on purpose) only to come home and shuffle down spoonfuls of peanut butter, frozen cool whip, and sugary cereal. Those, I believe, were my "trigger-foods." Peanut butter was really a particular favorite. If they made cigarettes that were peanut-butter flavored, I would have been a chain-smoker! Unfortunately it had strange affects on my stomach and while my weight stayed low, my stomach was not nearly as toned as I wanted it to be. I had to literally quit peanut butter, along with my other beloved food items.
Now I don't binge very much at home. I just kind of stopped by refusing to eat my favorite "triggers." Though when I go out, it's a different story. Because I don't go to parties or special events all the time, I look at the times I attend as times to let go of my health-intuition. Sometimes I have a good amount of control like I only eat a tiny bit of desert, but other times my need to eat gets the best of me. On Halloween I went trick-or-treating and ate half my candy between homes. I went to a party afterwards and ate even more candy along with chips and soda. Around 2:00 a.m my stomach began to hurt. I ended up throwing up at my friend's house!!! Luckily she was pretty understanding so I was more then forgiven. My stomach however, was not nearly as understanding!  
Last edited on 19 January 2008 02:08 pm by 1seekspie
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trainer3016
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Posted: 19 January 2008 03:37 pm |
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The "stomach" thing is a good thing (unless you have other medical issues). Prior to daily eating and journaling my food based on "checking off" servings on the food pyramid and focusing on keeping fat, carb and protein percentages within the recommendations of the American Heart Association, "whew" - when I binged it really bother my stomach. BUT - when I got in the habit of journaling my food and eating healthy, that's when my stomach would suffer the consequences of my destructive behavior. For me, when the trigger emotion is not strong, all I have to do is think of negating the calories burned that day and what it will do to my tummy.
Maybe if you remember your worst tummy experience before you are tempted, it will be a deterent for you.
Its tough
trainer3016
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Beth
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Posted: 23 January 2008 02:06 pm |
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Most white things are terrible triggers for me - sugar, grains (bread, pasta, cereal.) One bowl of cereal and I'm a goner. I want the whole box. I can eat my weight in pasta.
I am finding I have a critical hour every day between about 4:30 and 5:30 pm. If I don't eat around every 3 hours during the day, in the late afternoon I am going to binge on something, anything. During that time, I may binge on meat or whatever, but if I grab one of the triggers, it's not good. I am trying to just start eating dinner at that time, since that seems to help. Hubby is now working the night shift, so I'm eating alone anyway. It's strange that after I eat dinner, I'm done for the day. I don't even want anything else but maybe some water.
This forum is really helping me to determine what my body needs. It really helps to stop and think about WHY these things are happening and to realize I can do something to help myself. The late afternoon thing has gone on for years and I just never put the pieces together.
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suenos
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Posted: 24 January 2008 04:13 am |
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Beth wrote: It really helps to stop and think about WHY these things are happening and to realize I can do something to help myself. The late afternoon thing has gone on for years and I just never put the pieces together.
Beth, that's priceless!!!! Honestly I felt like I was held hostage by my "food" behavior for years....kept discarding bad habits but ultimately reverting to them again and again...until I shifted focus from "what I'm doing" to "why am I doing it"
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ObsessedwithFitness
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Posted: 25 January 2008 02:58 pm |
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I have to say, AGAIN I am in a similar boat here as most of you. My "trigger" foods I suppose (I never actually thought of it that way) are peanut butter, chocolate, bananas, cereal, and sugar anything!  I was a bulimic a long time ago (like 13 years ago) and I stopped and havent purged in over 10 years. I am proud of that, but I am not proud that I think I sometimes still binge....but without the purge.
My issue is not really eating much in the mornings, except a coffee with hot chocolate in it...and then afternoons are light but night time is out of control! My stomach constantly hurts and I dont even know when I am hungry anymore! When my stomach makes noises, its sad, but I truly dont know if its in pain or hungry! They feel the same to me. Anyway, I am going to look deeper into these habits of mine and see what I can come up with. I never really liked "food" or "meat" just ate it cause I was supposed to. My cravings are for sugar, and lots of it! 
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Angel44
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Posted: 26 January 2008 01:24 am |
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I eat even when I'm not hungry. I eat chips, popcorn, cookies (all of that high carb food). I will go from bag to bag. When I'm finished I can't believe what I did. I even eat like this after a good workout. Whatever I lost in calories working out I gained it right back from eating all the #%@&!.
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trainer3016
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Posted: 26 January 2008 02:15 pm |
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Common themes -
- Sweet or salt, we all have those specific empty calorie foods that we are drawn to
- Hunger has NOTHING to do with eating, most of us eat until its gone - well beyond hunger satisfication
- Timing - afternoon or evening
- Guilt afterwards
I'm with suenos - when journaling food, we must get in the habit of recording how we feel. Record indifference if that is what you are feeling at breakfast or mid-morning snack. Also recording caloric expenditure - many times I find what appears to be a direct correlation between level of workout and intensity and cravings. With a 500 + calorie workout, the seretonin has kicked in and the "natural high" occurs. I'm less likely to crave.
No matter your age, I highly recommend Fight Fat After Forty by Pamela Peeke, M.D., M.P.H. It is written in layman's language and explains the roll of stress in all this and how your body reacts. While I still have my moments, understanding the physiological occurrences behing the frustrating behavior makes it easier to take a "mysterious monster" and understand the "why". Dr. Peeke talks about having a Plan A, B and C. In other words, when that urge creeps up - have a plan in place to help divert your attention. Plans B and C are determined ahead of time, so we don't have to think in our weakend state, in the event Plan A doesn't work. Coming up with plans that will work for you really depends on WHY you feel the need to eat (ie boredom, stress, need for comfort ...).
trainer3016
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oc1983
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Posted: 29 January 2008 03:02 am |
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I know how you feel, i binge all the time, thats why i am trying hydroxycutt, and it helps. I need to find something else to keep my mind off of eating. recently i have been trying low calorie diet. I am eating lots of veggies and lots of fiber. the key is to stay within 1000 calories. that way i have control on what i eat. Its hard because my husband eats junk and its all over the house.
Nice to meat you all.
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zenobia
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Posted: 29 January 2008 04:22 am |
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welcome oc!
are you sure that you are getting enough calories? you don't want to go too low. if you need help figuring out what you need, just ask... or go straight to teh calculators. i highly advise against eating less than 75% of you RMR without medical supervision. just a suggestion (if you go to low, it's really not healthy and you take the chance of really messing up your metabolism...).
also, if you are going to use pills to aide your efforts, please know that most people gain the weight back after they get off the pills. maintaining is one of the hardest things to do after you lose wieght and the best way to combat that is to take on healthy eating habits while you are losing weight. if the pills work for you and you don't expect anything spectaular, great! all the power to you! i just don't want you to be setting yourself up for disaster later down the line. just concerned about your health.
and i believe the key to combating binge eating is to find out why we binge. i am a binger myself, constantly battling it and it really helps to figure out why i am doing it. then you can get to the root of the problem...
sorry if i sounded preachy or anything, i don't mean to- just giving my two cents 
p.s.- i just saw that you are off of it, or realizing that it doesn't work, on another thread- kudos to you!
Last edited on 29 January 2008 04:29 am by zenobia
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oc1983
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Posted: 30 January 2008 05:23 pm |
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| Well i also have a problem with constipation, so i try to eat only fiber foods. and i try to stay at a low calorie diet because i dont want to eat things that dont have fiber like sugars. so that is why i stay at 1000 calories. most of the time i go over, but if i dont have a limit, i will go over board. thanks for the advise.
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