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IndecentOpinion
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 Posted: 15 February 2007 06:41 pm
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I don't know if my way of thinking is screwed up or what, but every time I eat that extra graham cracker or one bite of a cheeseburger, I think, "Well, there goes my diet; I might as well just eat whatever I want."  I know I'm not going to gain weight from eating one cookie, but I can't help feeling like a failure when I do so, and then I overeat because of it.

My binging isn't severe or anything, but I usually end up eating around 1700 calories a day when I do this instead of my usual 1100-1200, and it's hindering my ability to stay on track.

Help! Any ideas on how I can kick this bad habit?

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 Posted: 15 February 2007 11:48 pm
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I know Nir will be excellent at telling you where you should be calories wise but I found that when I have planned my daily meals there is no reason to cheat. :o) I find it comforting to have meals spaced out throughout the day... I never have the ole empty " I can't eat anything else feeling" and it saves my diet efforts.

Perhaps if you kept a food journal and planned all your favorites into the day perhaps that will heal some of the over eating. I believe too that if you are eating the proper calories that would also help :o) Meaning if your calories are too low then you are causing undo stress on yourself

Don't beat yourself up.. today is a new day! Don't give up.. just start again!

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 Posted: 16 February 2007 05:36 am
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I agree with smallerme - plan some "treats" in your day!!!  If you plan for that cookie or graham cracker - or whatever kind of treat you like - then there is no reason to feel guilty!!!!  BTW:  I was on 1200 to 1300 calories a day - and was starving myself!!!!  Check out the BMR/RMR  calculators - and if you have problems figuring out your target - someone will help you on this forum!  Good luck!:clover:

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 Posted: 16 February 2007 05:44 am
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Good ideas, thanks guys!

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 Posted: 18 February 2007 08:37 am
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In several of the newsletters (found on this website) Megan writes about not having an all-or-nothing attitude. It's so common with people with weight issues because we are such a compulsive group!

Been there too many times... one candy bar would lead from weeks of eating well to weeks of bingeing.

I particularly like what Megan wrote in Changing Behaviors. Don't mean to lecture, but read it very carefully.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 21 February 2007 09:26 pm
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Get rid of all sweets and drink a lot of water instead.

 

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 Posted: 21 February 2007 10:33 pm
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I, too, have the compulsion to over eat.  Especially when I become stressed.  The NYTimes had an article about it today:

nytimes.com/2007/02/20/health/20brod.html?adxnnl=1&ref=science&adxnnlx=1172089682-fcWRjxVeT0aVT9wrl4NG0g
Some of the articles main points:
*1 out of 35 adults can be considered "binge eaters"
*binge eaters typically find that binge eating can help calm their anxiety
*behavior therapy: add structure to your diet: a regular breakfast, lunch, and dinner - set snacks between meals can help too
*do not skip meals
*cognitive therapy: get rid of the all or none attitude

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 Posted: 27 February 2007 05:55 pm
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I doubt that there is one overeater who does not do exactly what you do. Just try to keep yourself centered on your goal.

Don't look at one day's treats as a total failure therefore forget the diet.

I have done enough of the binging myself to know how you feel.

 

Janet

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 Posted: 2 March 2007 08:29 am
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I just really noticed the title of your topic. Actually, there's probably always a reason... the question is what is it?

You might try keeping a journal of your thoughts and feelings. Maybe you can find a pattern... how you feel before you binge.

Then when you find yourself feeling that you, you can take action! Do something positive and good for yourself to change your thoughts and feelings before you binge.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 11 March 2007 05:00 pm
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Peter wrote:
You might try keeping a journal of your thoughts and feelings. Maybe you can find a pattern... how you feel before you binge.

Peter:monkey:


wow- that is a brilliant idea.  i think i am going to try that one, peter.  i should carry a little note book one me so i can whip it out whenever the urge comes... and it tends to come in random places- at work for instance.  i know it wasn't intended for me, but i really really like that idea!

 

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 Posted: 11 March 2007 10:11 pm
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Journaling was also mentioned in the latest newsletter entitled Eating Disorders.

Peter:monkey:

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 Posted: 21 March 2007 10:48 pm
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No, that is completely normal. Sounds like you need more protein- increase your protein and lessen the refined sugars- and it may keep your hunger and cravings at bay.

Let me know how it works out.
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 Posted: 25 March 2007 01:41 am
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As a fellow "binge eater" I might have just the solution for you.  Before I get into that, let me just tell you that I would binge eat whenever I felt stressed, which unfortunately is quite a lot.  My favorite binging foods are Tostitos Lime Chips and Breyers Neopolitan Ice Cream.  If I felt stressed, I would make a beeline for the grocery store and buy one bag of chips and one half-gallon of ice cream.  More often than not, I would end up completely devouring both in an evening.  The only time eating like that made me feel good was while I was doing it.  However, after it was all said and done, I felt horrible.  So this is what I decided to do.  My daily calorie target is 2,000.  My daily calorie needs based on BMR and my daily activity is about 3,200.  Six days per week I stick to the 2,000 per day calorie limit.  Friday is the one day of the week I allow myself to go nuts.  However, my compromise in order to do so is that I either get to buy one bag of Lime Chips or a half gallon of ice cream - NOT BOTH!  I plan my Friday morning, afternoon, and evening meals accordingly (eat a little less than the other six days) so that by Friday night I can down the whole bag of chips or the whole box of ice cream.  Now keep in mind that on Friday morning at 7am, I hit the gym and take a spinning class for 45 mins.  Then I take another spinning class on Saturday morning.  Doing that allows me to really enjoy those chips or ice cream.  It's my reward for doing so good the other six days of the week and I make sure I hit those spinning classes both mornings.  It also helps me to know that I have every Friday to eat like that, so the other days when I feel stressed I just say to myself, "Get to Friday, get to Friday".  And there you have it.

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 Posted: 17 April 2007 12:57 am
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hey

well, are you able to  maintain a good weight that your happy wiht?If so you have got it all figured out..........I plan not to binge........but allow a good heathly treat, usually a diet treat on sundays...mondays are the new diet begining......I don't seem to have control, so when I do which in during the week, I just dont generly crave or want junk....but hungover....watch out.....so I eat too much...sometimes the day after too, the craving cycle.....cant think of the gym, cause ouch...i'm a cow:sheep: today...take laxitives out of guilt...maybe I should try your way...no lax so belly  and bum are good to include gym too.......:monkey:personally my partying ways seem to be holding me back....but I love my wine and the buzz...8lb15lbs I'd like to lose, I'm ok for others to see, but for me...my clothes are tight form last summer....how has this plan been for you mentally? Deperssion? :apple:Thanks

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 Posted: 17 April 2007 01:43 am
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Heya Krissdee,

All I can say is it seems to be working out fine for me.  Since my post on March 21st, I have lost an additional 6 pounds.  That's about two pounds per week, which to me seems about right.  I continue to binge on one of my favorite snack items every Friday, but the exercise and good eating habits for the majority of the week are working out great for me.  Also, I don't find myself getting into such a funk about things as much as I used to.  I think part of that is the benefits of eating right and exercise.  Even when I do feel like I've eaten too much, I remain optimistic and stick to my plan.  It used to be that I would use overeating a bit as an excuse to completely jump off the wagon and gorge myself.  Not so much anymore.

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 Posted: 17 April 2007 02:01 am
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sounds great...2lb per week.....I will try to relax and plan a mini binge day.....i just worry it will go all night or day.... worth a shot....thanks

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 Posted: 17 April 2007 10:19 pm
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Lately, the only time i binge is when i am hungry, seems logical!!!:tongue:

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 Posted: 25 April 2007 10:56 pm
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Maybe with your diet you feel deprived.  Depression leads to overeating.

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 Posted: 11 February 2008 12:43 am
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Hello, I am new to this forum. I love to work-out and be in control of my diet. But then...I go a little off track and I have NO control. I eat till I am full, then fuller! I feel so mad at myself and get really down. I will have a few days of this (reason I sought out a weight loss forum) then I will be good working-out religiously and eating well.  Would love to chat with someone in the same  boat:apple:

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 Posted: 11 February 2008 12:38 pm
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Hi there, 

we are in the same boat. I workout 5 X a wee. General eat healthy, protein bars, low carb diet plan. I do eat carbs, just the healthy kind.

Lately my binging has been really bad. weekly for 3 days. i can't explain it. i just do it and fell like #%@&!. i don't drink:martini: much at all, so that is not the reason anymore. i will go get a book today. The rules of Normal eatting. I hope to find peace.
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In the mean time, due to my last binge I have decided to go on a protien shake fast for 5 days. I really just want to lose my desire for #%@&! foods. I normal never last on these quick fixes, but after some research I have found peoples taste buds have changed, for good. It should b a 28 day plan. V-diet. but that is too long.

i Will See how I do. I really just want to be consistent with my plan and stay far away from the junk, it's soon to be in my truck.:pizza:

 

Best of luck:grin:

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 Posted: 25 February 2008 10:12 am
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What you are refering to is the "Who Cares Response." It happens when a small eating episode ends up in a bigger overeating episode. You may start eating a few crackers and then feel like you've broken a strict and unstainable food rule. Then you say to yourself, "ooh well or who cares, I might as well finish the whole lot off now!". This style of overeating eating can also be started due to emotional reasons. In fact emotional eating is a very common reason for overeating and people putting on weight (or failing to lose weight)! In essence the solution for breaking the "Who Cares Response" is to eat by following your natural appetite or hunger levels. You need to say no to strict diets and begin to make peace with food. By eating only when you are hungry, you will begin to take control of your overeating episodes and feel better. Obviously this is a very brief note on ways of tacking this problem. There is a good article on emotional eating at the following URL: http://www.appetiteright.com.au/pdfs/Healthy-and-heart-p53.pdf

I hope this helps a little. Good luck!

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 Posted: 28 February 2008 11:37 pm
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You sound like a normal dieter!   :grin:   I hate to think that falling off the wagon is some emotional problem....people like to eat...I lost my first 50 pounds by making sure I had treats in there somewhere!  Whoever said to get rid of all sweets and drink water instead is not realistic by any means.  It happens to all of us.  Just don't give up!

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 Posted: 29 February 2008 01:02 am
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Congrats on your weightloss....:apple:

As for normal eater, well probably a normal dieter eater. either way is is very unhealthy and emotionally distubing. :shock:It sure does not feel normal. I decided to not to diet for a week, eat what I feel. I craved and ate sugar free sweets , stuff like that. Felt ok  however it became a habit too. Lead to a sugar binge.:pig: now it's just what makes me feel better, snacks are ok, just no bingng, and if you are a binger you would know the difference, it is a all or nother way. I can't figure out how to make it normal. I tried.:binoculars:

Keep up the good work.

Perhaps you have some eatting normal tips.:shooting_star:


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