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pez
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 Posted: 2 June 2005 11:05 pm
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hi im new to the forums here...first off im 22 5'6 and 190lbs....but im wanting to be in the 140-160 area..i have stretch marks also...and most of the time it is depressing to see myself like this...theres been plenty of times where i want to diet and exercise but it only lasts maybe a week..i rarely eat healthy...i used the calculator and i was thinking about losing around 1000 calories a day and consume very little...im just needing some suggestions on what i should do..
p.s..... i wake up at 11am everyday and dont have time for breakfast and usually dont eat lunch but always eat alot at night...im guessing thats my problem but i just need some pointers


thanks for your help..

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Dave Brown
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 Posted: 3 June 2005 04:17 pm
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Hi pez,

About 40 years ago a British engineer named Barry Groves was trying to lose weight. He and his wife experimented with a lot of low-calorie/ high-exercise approaches before stumbling on some information about fat metabolism. They've been eating fat to maintain trim figures ever since. He has a PhD in nutrition now and has written a book entitled Eat Fat, Lose Weight. He also has an excellent web site that you can find by typing "Barry Groves, UK" into a search engine.

Dr. Groves says it's important to start the day with sufficient protein because it affects one's blood sugar level and appetite regulating mechanisms for the remainder of the day. As for eating one meal a day, on page 78, the authors of How to Lower Your Fat Thermostat write that, "There is some evidence that the surface area of the gut can be increased by food denial to increase the efficiency of absorption.... Rats eating only one meal a day have a markedly increased rate of food digestion and absorption."

While I believe that exercise is good for a person, I don't think it is necessary for either weight loss or weight maintenance. Fred and Alice Ottoboni, retired public health scientists concur. Here a portion of a recent e-mail from them:

"The popular press, including the NYTimes are carrying the establishment answer to the obesity problem, namely failure to exercise.  In our opinion, exercise is of little value in weight control.  Most important is the quality of the nutrition.  Fat, protein, and low glycemic carbohydrates are the correct answer."
 
"We are currently writing a paper in response to the New Food Guide Pyramid (MyPyramid) which recommends exercise for weight control, to explain our judgment that exercise will not solve America's weight problem.  We will send you a copy when it is completed."
 
 About two years ago, Penelope J. Greene, A researcher at Harvard University School of Public health, designed and closely supervised a feeding experiment comparing low and high-fat diets. It caused quite a stir when she presented her findings at an obesity convention. Tupe her name into a search engine and learn why.
 
The last thing I'll share is part of an e-mail from a nutrition expert who had a bad experience with the low-fat/low-calorie approach to weight control. 
 
  My name is DJ. I am a therapeutic nutritionist in Olympia, Washington. Your e-mail was forwarded to me by a friend in Public Health. You stated my ideas perfectly. I got into nutrition because I almost died after eating a low-fat, mostly vegetarian diet. Even though I was eating all the "right" foods, I ended up with breast cancer, osteoporosis, hypoglycemia, and had lost so much muscle mass that I could barely lift ten pounds.
   My practice is based on the idea that everyone has unique nutritional needs based on their individual biochemistry. Some people need lots of meat and saturated fat (myself included), while others seem to do well as vegetarians.
   Probably the biggest myth in the world of nutrition is that if everyone ate lots of fruits, vegetables, grains and fish, we'd all be healthy. It seems that I sometimes swim upstream trying to convince other nutritionists and people in the health professions that some people will die without foods like organic beef and butter.
   I also agree with you that the biggest problem is the way we grow and process foods in this country. Nobody is talking about the fact that food manufacturers put appetite stimulants in packaged foods to make people eat more of them to increase their profits. There is no discussion about how the chemicals in foods damage the chemical receptors for taste so that real food doesn't taste good.


A last word of advice. Your weight is not so important as your health. Overweight is often (but not always) an indication that health has deteriorated. Do think about cutting way back on foods that do not nourish. To find out how important it is to eat healthily I suggest you read The Modern Nutritional Diseases and How to Prevent Them by Fred and Alice Ottoboni. They are masters of explanation.

Dave Brown

Shana731
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 Posted: 5 June 2005 01:44 am
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Hi there, I cant write you a book like Mr. Brown did, but I can say that breakfast is very important, anything you can grab to start your day will help.  Eating breakfast will help you feel better for the rest of the day, and by the time you get home or by the time night comes, you wont be so hungry that you eat a lot at night.  Cutting back on your food is good, but make sure that you eat enough so that you don't starve yourself and become weak. I am trying to eat around 1300 calories a day, but its different for guys, also Im 14.  Hope it helps!

Shana

Seragilo
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 Posted: 5 June 2005 06:27 pm
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Hi There!

Well, I am no expert but I can share what works for me. I too use to skip breakfast, and well....hardly ate lunch. By the time I came home I would eat anything and everything that was quick and easy, which most times turned out to be high fat, high calorie foods. That there was most of the problem. You have to try a lifestyle change. Not a diet. Eating first thing (breakfast) whether it be at 6am or 11am helps you give your body the kick start it needs to start the day. Even if you opt for a low calorie yogurt and fruit or a slice of whole grain bread with peanut butter helps. Keep a lot of fruits and veggies on hand. Not only are they quick to snack on they help your body by giving it the nutrients it needs. Also, try to drink lots of water, it keeps your body hydrated and helps keep the snacking down.

Lunch is also important, a simple sandwich or salad with tuna is not only quick and easy but satisfying as well. Your body needs food to keep your energy level up throughout the whole day and gorging at night is no way to sustain yourself.

I tend to eat all day, I snack on fruits and veggies between meals and never go anywhere without my bottle of water.

Good luck!


mdbull73
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 Posted: 8 June 2005 01:49 am
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I agree with these guys.

I went on a six month low calorie diet combined with as much exercise as I could muster (which was not nearly enough because I didn't have the energy).

I lost about 40 pounds during these six months, but I still have the love handles and a bit of tummy at 230 pounds.

I suspect that if I would have eaten more each day, I would have been able to exercise more and I probably would have lost another 20 pounds and the love handles.

So now I learned my lesson. I am eating at least 4 times a day, and drinking water. I can exercise a lot more. However, I am still not eating fast food or any other junk.


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