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strongman
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Posted: 16 November 2005 08:32 am |
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I am trying to loose weight. I am 250pounds. I would love to get to 170 pounds. Ive got a trend climber. But it seems hopeless. I try to eat less. Switched to diet coke. I cant give up the coke, so I have to use diet. Can someone advice me.
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bayzbol44
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Posted: 16 November 2005 03:32 pm |
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It is all in the mind and how strong and committed you can be. I am about 313 lbs, 31 yrs old and I just started working out and eating right. Here is the reason why I started...I was watching the Danny Bonaduce (I know, I know, stupid show). However, I was sitting there laughing at this guy and how crazy his life was with drugs and alcohol. All of a sudden, I realize, I am just as out of control as he is, with FOOD. I was eating cookies and candy whenever I wanted to. But I realized, this needed to stop. Drugs and alcohol are horrible and can kill you, but overeating and being obese can too. This hit me last week and I have been eating right and working ever since then. My immediate "short term" goal is to lose about 40 lbs by the end of March.
GOOD LUCK! Stick with it, it will be worth it. Best bet is to keep a diary of what you are eating to see how many calories you are really bringing in on a daily basis.
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NevD
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Posted: 16 November 2005 03:42 pm |
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Sure you can give up Coke. There's just a part of your mind that doesn't like change that's telling you it's impossible.
Write out a list of things you want to achieve including weaning yourself off Coke.
Then change that list into another list that puts things into the present tense and makes them positive statements. So, "I wish I could stop drinking Coke" becomes "I drink only liquids that are good for my body" or whatever form you like.
Keep the list with you and read it aloud to yourself several times a day.
After a while, your unconscious ceases to try to stop you from achieving what you want.
You can do this!
NevD 
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rawfoodie
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Posted: 16 November 2005 05:14 pm |
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Strongman, you can do this! You are strong, aren't you?
Coke is horrible, horrible, horrible for your body. In some ways, diet coke is worse then regular coke. Do some research about how bad coke is and you won't want to drink EVER again. I don't. I haven't been drinking it for so long that when I tried it at a party, just for fun, it tasted AWFUL. Our taste buds change over time because they are dependent on addictive foods/drinks.
You can do it, you really can. If not now, then when? Tomorrow will always remain tomorrow. Do it now. One step at a time. Start by saying "good bye, coke, i don't need you, you make me sick, you are bad for me and i don't want you!"
Don't think about anything too much. People think so much and don't do anything. Just do it. Go outside, eat a salad if you're hungry. I am a huge fan of greens - they are the most healthy - ever tried them? Ever tried making a juice out of greens and other vegetable? Don't like it? Now is the time to start liking them. Buy a juicer...
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strongman
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Posted: 17 November 2005 01:32 am |
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I will do my best and allready am quiting coke or any other pops. When it comes to excercising, and eating. What are my next steps.
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Posted: 17 November 2005 03:44 am |
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The best way to do things is through a balanced diet, and portion control.
I agree with giving up the coke and pop.
The only fluid you need averyday is WATER!
It took me a long time, but I drink pop once a month maybe, and then realize I didn't really want it aftwards when I feel bloated.
How much packaged food do you eat?
"If it doesn't rot don't eat it! If it rots eat it, but eat it before ir rot's"
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collegestudent
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Posted: 17 November 2005 06:49 am |
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| I really like that saying. =) That's sorta what I am trying to stick to - except I do canned beans (because I just don't have the time to cook them).
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strongman
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Posted: 17 November 2005 07:25 am |
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Only water will be my drink. I usally eat something in the mornings, but very rarely. And then when I get home from school usally after 3pm.
And then try to not eat anything else, but its hard, cuz I do crave choclate, cakes and all that other stuff.
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Posted: 17 November 2005 06:20 pm |
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Not eating breakfast is not the correct way to go.
Eat breakfast, have a snack, eat lunch, have a snack, eat dinner.
As for choclate have one piece after dinner maybe. I do! That is mt dessert. I bought a big hunk of choclate at a Trader Joe's and break a piece of each night. That's it, walk away.
It satisfies the sweet tooth.
Don't skip meals.
Think of it this way, if the most basic thing your body needs is food to work, along with water. Why deprive it? Just stop putting to much in.
Good Luck, I have to go back to work.
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strongman
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Posted: 18 November 2005 04:30 am |
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Thanks for the all the advice. I am learning abot my meal plans and the way I should eat. What are my next steps to loose weight. it sucks I look bad, cant get any nice girls.
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NevD
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Posted: 18 November 2005 03:43 pm |
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Sounds to me like you haven't read the eating tips on this site's information pages. You'd do yourself a favour if you read what's here:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tips.html
Then, if you have any further questions, just ask here.
NevD
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strongman
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Posted: 19 November 2005 06:23 am |
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This is odd. Ive eating like the instructions say. Did some working on my tred chimbler. And instead of loosing and weight I gained weight. Also Ive read that you are only suppose to eat 1500calories per day, its hard for me to monitor calories. What happens if you eat less then 1500calories per day.
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Posted: 19 November 2005 04:33 pm |
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I feel that the most important thing in a diet is building up your metabolism. I do this by actually eating less when I eat, but more times a day. I eat anywhere from 5-6 times a day and do not eat a full meal. Constantly snacking (healthy food not JUNK!) really helps, especially if you do not have time to sit down and eat this many times.
Have a lite breakfast (some fruit and/or bread item and a healthy drink), get a small snack between lunch (nuts/fruit/healthbar) , have a salad/sandwhich about an hour later (not full of mayo) or some other item for lunch, snack again about an hour later, have a late lunch another hour later, bowl of fruit (just find something you like that is healthy STOCK UP ON HEALTHY FOOD and DO NOT BUY JUNK), keep this pattern up throughout the day and do not change. Make it your lifestyle not just a diet plan. You can stop drinking coke, I had a hard time myself drinking coke with every meal.
Once you give up junk food for a while you will better understand what your taste buds really want (sweet food, not just the sugar) you have to train yourself physically inside and out as well as mentally. Make coke your reward once or twice a week for doing what is right.
I hope this helps, let me know how it works out.
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NevD
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Posted: 19 November 2005 05:02 pm |
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strongman -
All we know about you from this thread is that you weigh 250 pounds. That's not enough for informed comment.
How about adding: age, gender, height, resting heart rate...
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strongman
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Posted: 21 November 2005 07:24 am |
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19 male, 240punds.
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NevD
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Posted: 21 November 2005 03:19 pm |
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Height? Resting heart rate?
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IainH
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Posted: 23 November 2005 11:38 pm |
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I'm astonished by the amount of 'sugared' drinks Amercans drink and how they seem to become addicted to them. I quite like Coke but scarcely drink a can a month
I'd be really interested to know if Strongman can cook or had any idea about food nutrition.
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NevD
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Posted: 23 November 2005 11:41 pm |
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Well, I'd have to admit that, when I was 19, I couldn't cook, had no idea about nutrition and was just beginning to get myself out of shape for the next several years.
So there's a fine tradition of that sort of thing among males...
NevD
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Peter
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Posted: 23 November 2005 11:44 pm |
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This is fun watching two people in the U.K. exchange posts on my website here in the U.S... where I sit drinking my Coke.
Peter
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Well, actually it's a Diet Pepsi!
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NevD
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Posted: 23 November 2005 11:46 pm |
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You've only got my word for it that I'm in the UK...
I could be virtual.
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IainH
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Posted: 24 November 2005 12:13 am |
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I watched the movie 'Super Size Me' a couple of nights ago. I could scarcely believe it, the very thought of drinking the gallons of Coke and HUGE burgers was shocking and made me feel quite sick.
I've never been to the states though all reports I've received invariably involve tales of the ridiculously large portions of food in virtually every restaurant. These comments seem to characterise the American food industry - too much.
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Peter
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Posted: 24 November 2005 01:05 am |
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I just checked my calculator and yes, even a Big Mac is bigger in the U.S.
But it's all logical, mate. We need to be big to fill our SUVs!
Peter
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AshenShugar
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Posted: 26 November 2005 01:25 am |
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In reply to the Original Poster:
I have said this before, but it bears repeating. There is no way to lose weight except to simply do it. In other words, it has to become a major priority in your life. You have to be willing to sacrifice time, money and effort--lots of effort.
To digress a bit, the reason most people don't succeed in losing weight is because they don't have the necessary motivation. For them, obesity, while annoying, embarrassing and inconvenient, poses no immediate threat to them. For instance, if the doctor said you would die in a year unless you lost weight, you would probably do it.
The most powerful instincts we have are eating, reproduction, and physical survival. To counteract "eating" requires a motivation or combination of motivations equally powerful. In my case, it is the urge to reproduce, to be more attractive to women. So far, it's been enough (of course there are other reasons too).
In your case, you need to evaluate WHY you want to lose weight and decide how important it is to you.
You know perfectly well that drinking Coke is irrelevant to this issue. Switching to diet will solve nothing. Ask yourself these questions:
1. Am I willing to give up fatty, sugary, processed foods forever, with only occasional exceptions? Can I accept the fact that it is forever?
2. Am I willing to spend hours and hours exercising? Can I accept sore muscles, sprains, etc.?
3. Am I willing to say NO to things I know will endanger my goals?
4. Am I willing to spend time and money on new clothes, gym memberships, exercise equipment, healthy foods and nutrition information?
Until you can answer "YES" to all of these questions without hesitation, forget it. It won't happen.
But there is a bright side.
After a while, you won't crave the bad foods you ate before. They simply won't appeal to you, and if you do eat an occasional cheeseburger you won't have to care about it or worry about it, as long as it really is once in a while. So don't worry about being deprived the rest of your life. You'll adjust, believe me.
While exercise sucks at first, it will eventually stop being a burden. In fact, if you're like me you'll become addicted to it. It helps you lose weight, look better, feel better. And it's a very powerful tool for fighting depression and stress. Eventually you may get to the point where you get angry if you CAN'T workout.
Just make sure you start slowly, or you'll get discouraged and talk yourself out of the whole thing. And be just as miserable as before.
So stop worrying about the Coke and get to work.
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Posted: 30 November 2005 09:53 pm |
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While I agree with much of what Ashensugar wrote in the previous post, I think that there's a widespread misconception about how much exercise is needed...
Eating properly is obviously the key to weight loss.
I regard exercise as a way to be fit enough to enjoy being slim. Toned muscles look better in a slim body than wasted muscles do.
But, as someone who regularly ran 16 mile circuits and remained steadfastly overweight until I discovered how to EAT, I'd say that knowing about nutrition is THE most important thing.
NevD
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strongman
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Posted: 15 December 2005 09:39 am |
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I started going to the gym. And theres so many machines there. I am not sure which machine is the best to use to loose weight. Also i started eating right, I think, but I feel hungry sometimes, and it hard for me to control my self from eating food, or junk food.
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Posted: 15 December 2005 09:56 am |
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This is a very uneducated, unscientific opinion, but don't worry about choosing the best machines to lose weight!
The difference in using one machine and another will be insignificant compared to how eating will affect your weight. Exercise for general health and to have a better looking body.
Probably more movement burns more calories, but the slower, harder workout that builds muscle also burns calories indirectly as muscle burns more calories than fat. So put on some muscle and you'll burn more calories sitting there reading this.
But the most important thing to do at the gym is -- for sure -- what you enjoy. Else you'll end up back on the couch... eating. And while we're on the subject, start out slow so you enjoy it. Then you'll enjoy seeing your progress!
Have fun!
Peter
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Posted: 15 December 2005 03:53 pm |
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Also i started eating right, I think, but I feel hungry sometimes, and it hard for me to control my self from eating food, or junk food.
Thinking you're eating right? There's lots of good advice in this website's FAQ pages. Follow that, and you'll know you're eating right.
If you're hungry for food (whether junk- or not) it begs the question - how many times a day do you eat? (Hint: if you're male, it should be 6 times).
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strongman
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Posted: 19 December 2005 12:33 pm |
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I have figured out what to eat in the morning and second meal, but cant figure out what to eat has my third and last meal. Also eating some green inbetween meals, apples, etc. I am going to the gym, and doing the cardio bikes,, two different kinds, one stand up and one sit down for 30mins each, then doing the running machine for 30mins, so about 90mins on the machines. Is this too much or too little.
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NevD
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Posted: 19 December 2005 09:45 pm |
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Try to get 6 meals a day, and also to get protein at each meal. Important if you're working out a lot...
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strongman
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Posted: 8 January 2006 01:42 am |
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I got a few questions. I have seen a commercial on tv, on something called a sauna belt, do you guys think it does work. And also do dieting, weight pills really work, ex, rev,etc.
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Posted: 8 January 2006 01:53 am |
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Please see my FAQ on diet pills.
I suspect the sauna belt helps you sweat. Which is a great way to lose weight if you never plan to drink liquid again.
I'm just joking of course, but the fact is that the water you lose just comes back when you take in liquid.
If you spend some time reading my FAQ you'll find that I strongly believe that the only solution to weight loss is learning to eat well. And I'm sure NevD agrees on this point.
Peter
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Posted: 8 January 2006 06:33 pm |
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Most of what you see advertised on TV is very good - but only for those selling the stuff! Used to be snake oil, now it's gadgets.
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Posted: 9 January 2006 08:34 pm |
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Look into what High Fructose Corn Syrup is and this will make you think twice about drinking another soda. I thought that I was drinking sugar and water but it wasn't until I read about HFCS that I learned about the hideous difference between the regular sugar packets that people put in their coffee and the evil that is High Fructose Corn Syrup. As I continued researching, I learned about the Frankenstein nature of HFCS and how it's not just sugar, but more like sugar on super steroids. I became sickened as I truly understood the parallels that these food/soft drink companies have with cigarette manufacturers, and I was/am very angry. It was like a light bulb turned on in my head and I felt used. Now when I shop at the supermarket I look at label after label as I began to find "High Fructose Corn Syrup" in things I would have never expected, even things like crackers. Why in the world does HFCS belong in a cracker?
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Posted: 9 January 2006 08:40 pm |
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The more I learn about the food processing industry, RR, the more I feel like you describe in that post...
How dare they? (Trouble is, they do dare).
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Posted: 12 January 2006 09:48 pm |
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| Rosie Real, thanks for your post! Real useful information. Thanks.
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Posted: 16 January 2006 08:26 am |
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I am still going to the gym, and doing alot of cardio, on the bike and running machine, I loose about 1000 calories. I am very curious, and got many different answers, do you loose weight, when you lift weight, workout, or does it simply convert fat into muscle. Also if I do situps, pushups, am I actually loosing calories.
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Posted: 4 February 2006 07:32 am |
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After going to the gym for two months now. I did loose some good weight from 236 to 220. I think this is fine. The problem is that now I can feel my bones. I still got got some loose fat around my belly ,etc. What steps should I take to loose these last fats. I was doing alot of cardio on the bikes. Should I start lighting weights, situps.
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suenos
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Posted: 5 February 2006 07:42 am |
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Hi strongman. Big congrats on the weight loss!! You asked " do you lose weight, when you lift weight, workout, or does it simply convert fat into muscle."
Fat and muscle are two completely different types of cells and one type of cell cannot change into another type. And, unless you have liposuction, even when you lose weight, the existing fat cells don't go away, they just shrink.
A couple of things happen when you work out. First, if you're doing cardio regularily, at the right intensity and duration your body will burn fat and empty out those fat cells. Second, if you are weightlifting, doing push-ups, etc., you will not burn as many calories during the work-out itself but you are increasing your muscle mass which will cause your body to burn calories at a higher rate throughout the day (even while resting).
Finally, all the situps in the world won't get rid of the tummy flab, that's where you just have to keep up the cardio and get serious about your quality and quanity of food intake.
Hope this helps.
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Living4JC
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Posted: 6 February 2006 11:35 pm |
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strongman wrote: I am trying to loose weight. I am 250pounds. I would love to get to 170 pounds. Ive got a trend climber. But it seems hopeless. I try to eat less. Switched to diet coke. I cant give up the coke, so I have to use diet. Can someone advice me.
Thanks
I read an article that said by just switching from high calorie sugary sodas to diet that you'd lose weight without any effort. So Jan 2005 I switched. Jan 2006 after a full year of no regular sodas I'm actually a few pounds heavier.
I heard a segment on the news the other day about Diet Soda's actually causing weight gain. Aint that Interesting!:( and then the aspartame isn't so healthy either, but now I love my Diet pepsi 
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Posted: 7 February 2006 03:31 am |
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If all other factors remain the same switching to diet will cause you to lose weight.
Got a Diet Pepsi in my hand now... but I really didn't like the Diet Pepsi Super Bowl commmercials.
Peter
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Posted: 7 February 2006 07:43 am |
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I feel keep up the cardio. Use several machines at gym, and watch my diet. Hopefully by summer I can loose another 20-30 pounds. I really want to loose my tummy.
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Posted: 7 February 2006 09:39 am |
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Living4JC wrote: I read an article that said by just switching from high calorie sugary sodas to diet that you'd lose weight without any effort. So Jan 2005 I switched. Jan 2006 after a full year of no regular sodas I'm actually a few pounds heavier.
That advice is trivially true for those where the reduction in calories takes them from being above their maintenance calories to below their maintenance calories. Unless you've counted your calories this year you may not know if your reduced intake (in the year you've switched to reduced-sugar drinks) is still above your maintenance level. But if you've been reading the FAQs on this site I'm sure you've figured that it probably still is. Generally: if what you do loses you weight, don't worry about it - but if it gains you weight then pay a closer look to calories to find extra culprits.
I seriously doubt that diet soft drinks, or indeed artificial sweetners, cause weight gain in themselves. How could they? Weight (fat) gain always relates to a calorie deficit.
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suenos
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Posted: 7 February 2006 06:12 pm |
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| I read a really interesting article about a study done between people who consumed only diet soda vs. people who drank only regular soda. The upshot was that the group that drank only diet soda ended up weighing more than the non-diet soda drinkers. It didn't make sense to me and made me wonder if something in the way diet sodas are processed slow metabolism?
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Posted: 1 March 2006 07:38 am |
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Ok guys. Its been a few good months now. I feel really skinny and everyone is been telling me im skiny. I lost about 36 pounds. The biggest problem is that my stomach is still big. Is it possible to be skiny with a big tummy. I did alot of reading, and I am getting different ideas. Should I switch over to working some abs and also continue my cardio. What else can I try. I can see a big stomach, even tho I feel skiny.
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Posted: 1 March 2006 09:06 am |
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I had a friend that got to the point you are. Actually he'd done it then put the weight back on and lost it again a number of times.
He said that he had to get really thin, that his stomach was the last thing to go.
But once he lost it, he could slowly put weight back on and only then would he be thin and have no stomach.
Of course we're all so different, but I have a pattern myself.
When I used to yo-yo, my face would always get really thin right away. But eventually... even though I kept my weight down... my face would fill out and look good again.
Maybe my body thought I was starving and I didn't need the fat on my face as much as somewhere else. Who knows.
Good luck with it! But just remember how much better you look now then before and don't get discouraged and go back!
Peter
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Posted: 1 March 2006 08:28 pm |
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Another thought... look at body types around you. It may be what you have been given by your ancestors. My family is large in the upper body, hence I have more waistline than I'd like. My best bud is smaller in the upper body but has much more "junk in her trunk". They classify body types as Apple or Pear. WHY FOOD IMAGES, who knows. I think if you're within a healthy weight range, fat % and you are working those ab muscles to the best of your ability, that may be all you get. Possibly ask a trainer if what you are doing is correct and if they might suggest anything. In the abbreviated version... we are what the good lord gave us and our family passed on to us.
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Posted: 1 March 2006 09:19 pm |
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Should I switch over to working some abs
You should certainly incorporate some abs crunches, if you have not been doing so.
If it's tummy flab you're referring to, try some on-off days (a low-cal day, followed by a normal day) for a couple of weeks and see if it starts to shift.
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Posted: 6 March 2006 04:49 am |
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Im confused. For the past 2 days I didnt go to gym. I was busy with work. But I was still active, ate using my regular diet. I was 200lbs last night. And now I checked im back to 206.
How can I jump 6pounds in 2days.
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Posted: 8 March 2006 04:13 am |
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I've lost 14 pounds running a race. That would make dieting easy! Except that of course it was all water.
6 pounds in a couple days is likely a water fluxuation. Maybe you'd eaten very little salt before the first weigh-in and/or a lot of salt before the second.
At least this could be a big part of it.
Peter
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Posted: 6 April 2006 08:17 am |
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Just an update, I am now at 194 pounds. I am hoping I could loose another 15-20 pounds. The problem is that according to my BMI, I am overweight. I would still be overweight even at 160 pounds, which sound way to low weight for me.
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