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Sunglow
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Posted: 19 October 2005 06:55 am |
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| I am glued to this show every Tuesday night. It's like seeing all my frustrations. I can relate to trying so hard and not seeing the scale move. But what I don't understand is, it seems that if you have highly paid professional trainers and you have a medical staff, a beautiful fat farm and facilities at your disposal, and you still don't see results.....what are mere mortals to do??? If I worked out as hard as they do and the scale only budged a couple of pounds, what hope is there for me since I don't work out hours in one day. How do you keep going, when results are so hard to come by? Does anyone else care to comment?
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 19 October 2005 08:20 am |
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There are many solutions to the problem and no one is right or wrong. It's a matter of finding out what's right for you.
This is what I believe:
http://www.eatwellandexercise.com/
And for my personal success I follow the Eat To Live diet plan discussed in my FAQ and in this forum.
Peter
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aicirt78
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Posted: 19 October 2005 05:20 pm |
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:DHey there! I also watch this show every week. I also watched last season. First of all we have to remember that this is TV and they can edit ANYTHING they want... so it is not necessarily reality. With that being said, we are all only human. Our bodies will only allow us to lose so much weight in a given amount of time. On average we have to burn 3500 more calories than we take in to lose 1 pound. But we also have to eat healthy, exercise, and get an adequate amount of sleep to keep our metabolism going. If you are talking about Matt who lost no weight, he also woke up int he middle of the night and ate. If you are referring to the guy that was exercising 5 hours a day, you heard Jillian say he was doing too much and she was worried about him. If you are talking about the women  (who just break my heart... I want them to win so bad:D), they are losing and to lose a few founds in a week is A LOT!!! Look at it this way... if they lost 3 pounds they had burn as extra 10500 calories and if they lost 5 pounds (that is what Suzie lost I think) she had to burn an extra 17500 calories. That is amazing!!!!  I know we all want results and we want them FAST!!! But real life is not a race, or a game we are trying to win. That is why we have to take it day by day and do the best we can. You CAN lose weight. You just have to make healthy choices and set realistic goals. I am assuming you work and cannot workout for hours and hours a day... so you do what you can. I try for one hour a day, but sometimes I only have 30 minutes so that is what I do. Good luck! I would also recommend you check out the FAQ on this site to gain some more insight int o what I am saying. Take care, Tricia
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Corina
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Posted: 19 October 2005 08:02 pm |
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Tricia,
Thanks for reminding me! I forgot (how could I forget?) That you have to burn 3,500 calories more than you eat to lose a pound. Duh. And you are so right about the show. That's what it is just a show... reality TV shows are definitely far from reality and no one should try such desperate measures to lose weight. It's a little unrealistic for those of us who have lives to exercise 5 hours a day-WAIT I should say VERY UNREALISTIC.
And what's going to happen to these people when they get off the show? Aren't they going to go back to their old eating habits and gain all the weight back again? I would think so since they are not taking the time to learn how to lose weight the HEALTHY way.
 Corina
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Sunglow
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Posted: 19 October 2005 10:02 pm |
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| Well, you do get to see some of the people from last season who are keeping in off. And you do hear about not getting discouraged if the scale doesn't budge. And, of course, you can see these people are shrinking. I guess the thing I must take from all this is that working towards losing weight and health is an on going thing, slow and easy, and at least I am going towards that and not away and not standing still either. Thank you guys for the input.
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Peter
Founder, caloriesperhour.com
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Posted: 19 October 2005 11:37 pm |
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Most people spend years putting on weight but don't have the patience to spend years or even months losing it. They want it off NOW, and if they don't get it they get discouraged and quit.
A diet can help you lose weight, and perhaps fast. But you spent a lifetime developing the eating and exercise habits that got you overweight, and it takes time to change your habits. And it you don't, even if you lose the weight you'll just put it right back on.
The people that realize that it's a process that takes some time are most often the successful ones.
Just my two cents,
Peter
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exfatguy
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Posted: 20 October 2005 12:42 am |
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I think that this show gives us a plain view of the weight loss process. More calories burned, more weight loss. Too many calories burned too fast without proper food intake, and your just going to upset the process. I have said for a long time that losing weight is a piece of cake (sorry about that cliche') compared to maintaining the weight loss. You can almost tell in the contestants personality which ones will have the harder time with maintaining. If you get up in the middle of the night to eat when you know theres a camera watching, you can count on doing the same even more often when there isn't. As far as exercise goes, we all have lives. Their life right now is to exercise. No job and no family leaves a lot of time for exercise. Weight loss is simple math and I know that I have told you in the past how instrumental your web site was during my weight loss. One of my chosen forms of exercise has been cycling. When I first started at an hour at 13 mph, it was great watching the calories that I was burning go up as I got faster and went further. However, I have just passed the 18 mph mark this week and as you know your range ends at 17.5 mph. Is there any way you could give me a formula to follow for speeds over 17.5 mph?
Thanks again for helping me change my life, Tom
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Sunglow
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Posted: 20 October 2005 07:54 am |
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Yeah, Tom, I can see the lesson to learn on the show is that you have to fuel your body properly in order to exercise otherwise, you will succumb to giving up and being hungry and throwing in the towel. There was Mark, who exercised 5 hours a day and didn't lose much and of course Matt who ate breakfast during the night, who probably wasn't fueling enough during the day and who lost 0 pounds.
It's great that you are cycling and improving your speed. I know consistency is the key. Keep it up.
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Dave Brown
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Posted: 21 October 2005 06:55 pm |
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There are some good posts on this topic. Peter's comment about "finding out what's right for you" is especially wise.
An important thing to keep in mind where heavy exercise is concerned is the fact that every calorie burned uses up micro nutrients in the process. This is reflected in the profile of proteins and minerals excreted in the urine. This profile, unique for each individual, also reflects the balance of interacting chemical reactions that sustain life. Interestingly, this excretion profile remains constant throughout one's lifespan independent of what one chooses to eat. A lot of exercise plus a poor quality diet eventually results in a micro nutrient deficit and consequent symptoms of hunger, unwanted weight gain, or worse.
Some people seem to need extra amounts of certain elements such as potassium because their bodies excrete those elements rather quickly. Others seem to be able to conserve (possibly even recycle) micro nutrients supplied in the diet. Whichever the case, it is important to consume plenty of micro nutrient-rich foods to ensure that one is not depleting oneself of some vital element through excessive exercise.
Dave Brown
Last edited on 22 October 2005 12:47 am by Dave Brown
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collegestudent
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Posted: 21 October 2005 08:29 pm |
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Dave,
Have you done any research into metabolomics or metabonomics? There are some very interesting studies that you would be interested in. Nicholson of imperial college has done some studies on the effects of intakes of certain nutrients. The metabolites excreted do not necessarily stay the same throughout an individuals life. For example, gut microflora have great interactions with the body's metabolism and after illness in which antibiotics are used urinary profiles can change. If you are interested you can message me and I will send you some studies. I am still looking into the ones that you have sent me.
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