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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2007 07:25 pm |
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i am driving myself insane.I just lost weight and am terrified of getting fat again so i count calories.
It is impossible to eat 1800 cals a day.every food has unbeliavable amount of calories.
Excersizing helps so little its not even worth it either
if you were to walk for an hour (with me that burns 100 cals) you wouldnt even burn enough energy to cancel out a slice of cheese you put in a sandwhich,imagine the sandwich itself.
I cant even afford the calories for cofee (i like mine with skim milk).I dont even drink alcohol because i know i will gain weight.
I wake up at 6 am to run 3 miles a day just so i have enough calories burned to not have to go to bed starving (which i still do because the cals burned in a 3 mile run is nothing compared to how many cals are stuffed into food)
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 4 December 2007 08:48 pm |
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HarleyNinja237 wrote: It is impossible to eat 1800 cals a day.every food has unbeliavable amount of calories.
Really?
I just had to reply to this. I've had a busy day, it is 9.44pm and I had forgotten to eat enough calories. Don't get me wrong - I ate plenty of foods. At this point in the evening my food has weighed 1956 grams - or if you prefer, 4.3 pounds, or 69 ounces. What I am saying is that I've had lots of food today - but so far only 474 calories. [kids, please don't try this at home ]
So what am I going to do now? Well I think I'll be up for another 2.5 hours and during this time I will make sure to eat another 926 calories so my calories for the day will end up at 1400 (and yes, I'll be enjoying my eating session)
Why Healthy Food Makes You Slim
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StuckSara Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 December 2007 09:44 pm |
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I agree with Nir. Once I start eatting healthy foods it is hard for me to get enough calories in. I try to get 1500 and sometimes I feel like I have to stuff myself to even get that. What is your typical menu in a day? This is what I have eatten so far and have planned for the rest of the day:
Breakfast- 4 egg whites (70 cal.), 4 pieces bacon (70 cal.), 2 slices light whole wheat toast (80 cal.) - 220 calories
Snack- 8 oz. of V8 fruit juice (70 cal.) some skinless chicken (100 cal.)- 170 calories
Lunch- packet of Tuna (90 cal.), 1 tbs. light miracle whip (20 cal.), 2 slices light whole wheat bread (80 cal.)- 190 calories
Snack- Can of sweet peas (220 cal.), can of V8 vegetable juice (70 cal.)- 290 calories
Snack- Bag of smart pop kettle corn- 240 calories
Dinner- 2 cups of Contessa Beef and vegetables with sauce- 240 calories
Snack- Bowl of Total cereal with Vanilla soymilk added fiber- 250 calories
That's a total of only 1360 calories. And that's a lot of food.
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voodoodoll Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 December 2007 09:46 pm |
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HarleyNinja237 wrote: It is impossible to eat 1800 cals a day.every food has unbeliavable amount of calories.
Excersizing helps so little its not even worth it either
if you were to walk for an hour (with me that burns 100 cals) you wouldnt even burn enough energy to cancel out a slice of cheese you put in a sandwhich,
if i was to eat 1800 calories i would be having a relatively high calorie day. like nir says, you can eat 1800 calories easily if you eat the right foods. like today for example i had 5 meals (cereal, soup and bread, a pear, jacket potato with cheese and beans, natural yoghurt with honey) but this was only 1455 cals. i also did an hours activity at the gym and burnt 650 calories (through a 8km row and 10 mins elliptical). this means that i have over a 1000 calorie deficit for the day (quite possibly too much) yet i don't feel at all deprived or exhausted. what kind of foods do you eat in a day to make you go so far over 1800 cals?
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voodoodoll Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 December 2007 09:56 pm |
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Nir wrote:
At this point in the evening my food has weighed 1956 grams - or if you prefer, 4.3 pounds, or 69 ounces. What I am saying is that I've had lots of food today - but so far only 474 calories. [kids, please don't try this at home ]
just out of interest Nir, what on earth were you eating? 4.3lbs of lettuce? now please tell me its a new low calorie pizza and i will be in heaven! 
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:08 pm |
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1- thats not alot of food
2- its kind of hard to eat over 1800 when you lie.ONE egg is 70 cals not four
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:09 pm |
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one whole wheat bread is 140 cals eACH slice....
not 2 for 70...
i dont mean to be sarcastic and trolling...just the way it came out in the last post btw
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:11 pm |
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one can of tuna is 175.....
not much comes in a can
90 cals of tuna is so little its barely edible
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:12 pm |
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can of sweet peas is the only thing i see you got right
220 for a can of sweet peas is ridiculous.
also 800 cals to burn is alot....i burn 350 for half an hour.you spend an hour (maybe more) one the treadmill ? thats alot....
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:13 pm |
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Yes there was some lettuce in there.
Foods I ate up to that point in the evening:
388g swede-cooked
368g spring-greens-cooked
340g celery
293g spinach-cooked
256g courgettes-cooked
137g romaine-lettuce
97g brussel-sprouts-cooked
17.4g avoicado
[also: 5x1.5g chewing-gum; 16.12g dry-roasted-peanuts; 36g of ox-kidney]
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Nir Senior Administrator

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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:20 pm |
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HarleyNinja, You may find the following information useful:
one egg may be 70 to 80 calories, but one egg WHITE is only 15-20 calories. Ditch the yoke and save calories.
some slices of bread can be around 100 calories or more but there are some diet breads marketed out there which are just 40 calories per slice. The slices are thin and the loaves are small but the slices really only have 40 calories.
for tuna, make sure it is packed in WATER or BRINE (not oil). Over here I get a 180g tin (130g when drained) which works out about 130 calories for the tin and there is plenty to eat in the tin. Ditch the oil.
My best tip, though (obviously) is: nothing beats vegetables.
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StuckSara Distinguished Member

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Posted: 4 December 2007 10:49 pm |
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Actually everything on there was right. Just read more carerfully.
I wrote 4 egg whites and like nir said, 1 egg white is only 15-20 calories... 17*4= 68 calories. The yolk is where the vast majority of the fat is, so if you take that out you get just the good protein and far less calories/fat.
I wrote light whole wheat bread... Orowheat's light whole wheat is only 40 calories per slice.
1 packet of tuna is just right for a sandwich and it has 90 calories in it.
Have you ever eatten a whole can of sweet peas? They're very good and unbelievably filling, not to mention very healthy so it's worth the calories. A can has 14 grams of fiber in it and 10.5 grams of protein with no fat.
Also, if you don't like being on the treadmill for an hour, you definitely don't have to be. Voodoodoll wasn't even on the treadmill to burn her calories. Maybe try a sport... they can burn a lot of calories and you're having fun so you won't even notice.
I think it would help you a lot if you start reading labels while you grocery shop to find the product with the least calories.
Just out of curiosity, how did you lose the weight before?
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 5 December 2007 01:41 am |
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burned off 1050 cals a day on the ski machine (10 miles approx) and only ate 700 cals a day (if im complaining about 1800 imagine how i was eating 700)
not to brag but i lost like 45 lbs in 60 days (im really proud of myself) everyone said cutting weight will make you gain it back.ive stopped the diet at 148 then dropped to 138 instead of gaining,now im 144 but by choice.
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 5 December 2007 09:03 pm |
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I have to agree with everyone else, it is entirely possible to eat less than 1800 and feel satisfied 
Would care to tell us what your average day looks like for calories? Maybe we could point out some more specific changes you could make, if you are worried you are eating too many cals...
CG
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 5 December 2007 10:28 pm |
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breakfast - chocolate frosted coffee roll (290,thats the only thing thats is huge and not crazy amounts of calories,also i realize theres alot of sugar in it but if i were to eat a 'healthy" breakfast i wouldve eaten half my cals for the day and not be no where near as full as if i ate the coffee roll from dunkin donuts,that thing is huge and less then 300 cals)
Snack - peanut butter granola bar (200,for 2 tiny bars,ridiculous)
Lunch - 2x Ham and cheese sandwhich (50 cals for a barely visible tiny slice of ham,3 slices each sandwhich,110 cals for a slice of cheese,one slice each sandwhich,whole wheat bread 140 cals each slice,4 slices) even though its 2 sandwiches theres only 4 slices of deli inside,each slice is paper thin so its not really alot of food.Total = 1080,over half the cals for only one meal !!!!
Snack - Apple = 100
Dinner - Cherrios (2 cups,200 cals) and skim milk (2 cups,180 cals)
go to bed starving cuz thats not even much food for a teen to eat but still went over my cals.
total cals = 1850
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EJ33 New Member

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Posted: 5 December 2007 10:38 pm |
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Hello HarleyNinja237,
If someone eats a lot of fruits and vegetables and tries to eat healthy then 1800 calories can be quite satisfying. If someone eats a lot of pastry, sweet treats and junk foods then 1800 calories will be too few calories for the day.
Can you give a typical list of the foods and calorie content of what comprises your 1800 calorie day to day diet? Then it might make sense why 1800 calories is such a problem for you.
Why did you pick 1800 calories a day? How much weight do you want to lose?
It appears that you are allowed about 2000-2500 calories a day to maintain a weight of 144, depending on whether you are sedentary, lightly active, or moderately active.
Plus moderate to intense exercise can burn 500-700 calories an hour based on your weight of 144 pounds. If you exercise about 3-4 hours a week that would give you like an additional 250 calories a day to maintain your current weight. Then you would be allowed 2250-2750 calories a day to maintain your current weight.
Don't jump to the conclusion that exercise is a waste of time. The calories you burn from exercise can buy you additional calories each day to consume - plus the medical professionals recommend exercise as a way to maintain one's health.
Be open minded and take the time to read the tutorial on this site then use the BMR/RMR calculator to determine about how many calories a day you can consume to stay at 144 pounds. You did say you weigh 144 pounds by choice.
EJ33
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 5 December 2007 11:06 pm |
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2000 ?
i caluclated my BMR and it said 1500 plus i do 30 mins of ski machine a day to burn an extra 300-350 cals,thats where i got the number
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 December 2007 02:11 am |
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Do you like oatmeal? It is a VERY filling, MUCH lower calorie breakfast option, also you could have a LOT of most kinds of fruit for the same amount of cals as your chocolaty coffee roll 
Also, granolas bars are advertised as a healthy filling snack, but truthfully a lot of them are loaded with sugar and carbs and not much that is really that healthy. I think Nevd has a recipe for some protein bars in the recipes forum that I have heard are rather good (have been too lazy to make any so far)
Hmm, sandwhiches...maybe try adding some veggies as a side, and eat 1.5 or one sandwhiches. Veggies really are realllllyyy filling.
I like the apple :)
Cheerios...well, I guess that's pretty good. It doesn't look like you get a whole lot of protein though, and dinner might be a good time to add some...chicken, turkey, other sources of protein that I can't seem to recall right now...
CG
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Theresa Senior Member

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Posted: 6 December 2007 07:50 am |
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| You definately must eat more vegetables(not too starchy) and you might find that you cannot even consume those 1800 calories daily. Sometimes I am stuffed by 1200 calories and have to force myself to get to my 1600 daily calories.
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EJ33 New Member

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Posted: 6 December 2007 08:35 am |
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Hi HarleyNinja237,
A BMR of 1500 calories for someone who weighs 144 pounds doesn't seem correct.
I put in the numbers: Age 25, Height 5'7", Weight 144 pounds, Male
The BMR's are:
Sedentary 1975
Lightly Active 2263
Moderately Active 2551
Very Active 2839
I also tried a few different ages and heights for someone who weighs 144 pounds and the results are much larger than 1500 calories a day.
EJ33
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EJ33 New Member

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Posted: 6 December 2007 09:19 am |
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HarleyNinja237,
Your two ham and cheese sandwiches were 1080 calories.
Myself, I like ham, cheese, tomato, lettuce and mayo sandwiches.
4 slices of buttersplit wheat bread 240 calories
4 slices of low fat Oscar Mayer packaged ham 93 calories
2 slices of Borden Fat Free cheese 60 calories
1/2 a tomato 20 calories
lettuce about 10 calories
low fat mayo 30 calories
For a grand total of 453 calories for two sandwiches and double the ham you used to make a sandwich.
I also like to buy a packaged pound of cole slaw with raw vegetables. The package has a recipe that includes mayo, milk, celery seeds, Apple vinegar, and sugar and I'll have a large 8 ounce cole slaw. The calorie total for the cole slaw is 150 calories.
Most times I only eat one sandwich and 8 ounces of cole slaw for a calorie total of 377 calories and I'm quite satisfied at lunch time. Even with two sandwiches and the cole slaw it is still only 603 calories. That would be a pretty filling supper for me.
Yesterday I weighed 144 pounds fully dressed on a doctor's scale.
It is possible to be a little creative with low calorie food choices and not give up anything in taste.
EJ33
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Dazed1 New Member

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Posted: 8 December 2007 04:29 am |
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Harley, I have been fluctuating a bit lately because I added wine and chocolate, but I have averaged around 1800 calories for 8 months and it hasn't been hard. I do:
Cheerios 2 cups
FiberOne 1/2 cup
1% milk 1 cup
Whey protein 1 scoop
Banana
orange
grapes
apple
vitamins = 60 calories
total = 908 calories
You should be able to figure out a dinner of 900 calories, especially when you consider I do it and mine includes red wine and dark chocolate. I never eat fast food, or buy my lunch. I have no processed foods in the house and I track everything on FitDay. One trip to a fast food joint for about anything on their menu will destroy your diet. To paraphrase Henry Ford, WHETHER YOU THINK YOU CAN, OR YOU THINK YOU CAN'T, YOU ARE RIGHT.
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CodeMonkey New Member
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Posted: 21 December 2007 10:59 pm |
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clarinetgurl wrote: Do you like oatmeal? It is a VERY filling, MUCH lower calorie breakfast option...
That's what I eat in the mornings. Sometimes when I don't have a lot for lunch I'll eat some more oatmeal.
Mine is pre-packaged in ziplock bags in my desk drawer at work. 3/4 cup of instant oatmeal per bag. Also in it is some splenda, cinnamon and some splenda brown sugar. Dump it in my coffee cup, pour some hot water in it, wait a few minutes and I've got breakfast at 240 calories.
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 22 December 2007 08:45 pm |
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Well mine is a few more calories than that...lets see the oatmeal is 160, plus half a cup of milk is 215, plus a table spoon or less of margarine is around 300. I know the margarine isn't great, but...I still consider it a low cl option compared to a couple of doughnuts or something like that, and it does mke me fill very full as well as fulfilled :P
CG
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 23 December 2007 05:19 pm |
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this is bs...
my parents are making xmas dinner....regular dinner vegetables and mashed potatos and chicken and i have to eat pita bread and starve on xmas day (were celebrating it today) because if i were to eat like a regular normal person id have gone waaaaaay up on my cals.so its a regular meal i should be able to have 3 a day plus 2 snacks but that would equal well over 2,000 cals.
Like yesterday i had a cheeseburger sub,fries,and beer ok no big deal every teenager has beer and eats junk food so why cant i ? they dont gain weight ? i gained 2 lbs cuz of last night.
I have nightmares about getting fat again.
No one here thinks its ridicoulous how much calories are in food ? yes,even vegetables have extremely high calorie count.a potato that is supposed to be "healthy" and is all natural has around 200 cals.how the is that healthy ?A bag of frozen vegetables thats just a bit more then a meal if that was all you were to eat is 700 cals for vegetables!!!!If you work out for an hour and put a slice of cheese in your sandwich it would cancel out the entire workout just for the cheese!!!Cardio doesnt burn sh*t either.I do 30 mins of cardio everyday (unheard of for a teen who shouldnt have to worry about this stuff) even when theres a blizzard outside and it burns 350 cals...big deal thats not even 3 cups of milk.
Man i think i have an eating disorder,not that i can be blamed,i mean if you look at how much the minimum amount of food that can be eaten in a day without starving and see that its at least 500 cals over the limit youd go crazy too...im sorry for bothering you guys but its not like i can talk to people in real life about this.
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 23 December 2007 08:29 pm |
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I disaree with yu that teens shouldn't hve to exercise, or eat right.(P.S., I am a teen too) Also, you should easily be abe to eat as many veggies as you want. What kind of meat are you having for xmas dinner? you should be able to have a moderate portion of most meats, ham, turkey, chicken, without completely breaking your calorie break...
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suenos Distinguished Member

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Posted: 24 December 2007 12:01 am |
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As EJ33 pointed out, If you are male, young, fairly active plus work-out 30-60 mins. a day, you have a pretty high amount of maint. calories...no, not high enough to support beer, cheeseburger subs & fries on a daily basis, but high enough to allow it occasionally without worry.....it's what you are choosing to consistently eat the rest of the time that keeps you from being able to have the occasional splurge without throwing you into a caloric surplus.
Food (IMO) is really not about the calories - it's about giving your body the nutrients it needs to function....and, on average, the most nutrient dense foods (whole, as close to natural as possible), are not very calorie dense.....it's the processed stuff & fast food that's high in calories - usually because a lot of fat and/or sugar has been added. If the majority of your diet comes from fruits, veggies, low fat dairy, lean cuts of meat, etc., then you've got leeway to include some of the other stuff. If higher calorie processed and/or fast food is the mainstay of your diet - then you spend a lot of time either being hungry or gaining the weight back. Consistently choosing - just for instance - a slice of pizza or burger & fries over a piece of fish or lean cut meat & fresh veggies is not (again IMO) an eating disorder - it's just making a personal choice.
Think about all the reasons you lost weight in the first place....other than your present frustration over food - was it worth it to you? personally rewarding? do you feel better about the way you look? the way your body performs? Would you rather learn to change the way you eat permenently (cause it is a learning process - and yea, it can be frustrating) or eat the way you like and accept that the weight will come back as a result?
If you want to keep the weight off, if it's important to you, then you can. It's hard, it requires making choices you don't always want to make, but it can be done and it really does get easier in time.
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DaniMae1 Distinguished Member

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Posted: 26 December 2007 07:34 pm |
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| Are you a guy or a girl? You need to clean up your attitude some. Foul language really makes one look very immature and of low intelligence. What your parents make for dinner is their buisness. Get over it. Buy your own food. Why do you drink beer? Isn't that against the law? I don't think this is the right place for you. You need counseling or something.
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NevD New Member
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Posted: 26 December 2007 08:30 pm |
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I read all the posts in this thread, Harley, and you sound pretty angry about things.
That's one reaction I recognise from my own early efforts at dieting.
Fortunately, nowadays, there are great websites like this with lots of free information - if only you're prepared to use it.
It seems like you're letting the idea of rationing calories bully you into a bad mood. Here are a few things to help you feel better about your efforts:
- Exercise is not just about burning calories while you exercise. A good aerobics workout has you burning more calories for hours after your workout. That's why 5 days at 20 minutes a day is better than 1 day with 100 minutes of exercise.
- Once you've lost the weight (if it's been mainly fat you've lost) you should still have a healthy metabolism, burning plenty of fat.
- It's easier to maintain than it is to lose, especially if you've learned along the road how to eat and exercise in a way that suits you.
- Consistency is the main thing in weight loss, so finding a program that suits you and your lifestyle is important.
Good luck with finding what suits you. Persevere - you can do it.

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kwats00 New Member

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Posted: 26 December 2007 09:10 pm |
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I feel you are obsessing. You will manifest MORE fat if you keep it up Relax. Be diligent, but relax. Focus on what you DO want rather than what you DON'T want. And you're under aged. Stop drinking. It will stunt your growth. 
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abnormalapathy Distinguished Member

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Posted: 27 December 2007 07:56 pm |
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I don't understand what the fuss is about. If you dropped 45 pounds in 60 days, then yeah, you probably did starve yourself, so it makes sense that you went to bed hungry all the time. I lost 43 pounds in 38 weeks. So, we lost almost the same amount of weight and I never starved. I never went to bed hungry. And I never complained about what I could or couldn't eat - ya know why? Because nothing is off limits for me. If I eat something that's higher in calories, I cut back elsewhere.
Re: exercise: At first I was at the gym every day, but I was seeing the same results as the weeks I didn't go. What you eat will have the biggest impact on the scale, but how you work out will change your body and have a bigger impact overall. Sounds like hypocrisy, right? It really isn't. If you're burning fat by cutting calories, you're likely losing muscle too. Muscle burns fat longer, so obviously you don't want to lose it. Exercise can help build muscle. So why wouldn't you do it? Sure, each week it may not help so much on the scale, but over time, it will. Not to mention that over time you'll see that your body is leaner than it could have been just by diet alone.
I am currently about 196 pounds, and I look leaner than I did when I weighed 20 pounds less, in high school. I'm wearing the same size I did in high school too, even though I weigh 20 pounds more. That's thanks to weight training, I'm sure.
I learned a long time ago that whining about what other people can and can't eat isn't productive. You have to learn what works for your body and then do it. My bf can eat anything he wants and not gain weight. I can't. Such is life. I will always have to work harder to be thinner. But it's worth it to me.
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Dazed1 New Member

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Posted: 27 December 2007 11:17 pm |
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HarleyNinja, we are all dealt a different hand. Despite what we want to believe we are not that far removed from our caveman stage, and our bodies still react to things like they did thousands of years ago. We are hunter gatherers and we haven't even adapted to farming life yet. We used to spend countless hours just searching for our next dinner, and now we live in a day of abundance, with fast food and seldom have to walk anywhere. When you figure out how to circumvent evolution let me know.
You lament your situation, but imagine having one of the greatest minds on earth and being trapped in a motionless body - Steven Hawking. I am about the same age as Michael Douglas so why don't I have Catherine Zeta-Jones in my bed. Gosh that sounds good.
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 28 December 2007 02:43 am |
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Hey Harley, how's it going?
CG
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CCKat Senior Member

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Posted: 29 December 2007 10:10 pm |
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Harley-
I just joined today and this is my first post. I completely understand how you feel!I felt the same way at first. But first you need a positive attitude. Start your day by repeating your goal out loud when you look in the mirror in the morning. Keep exercising.
Good Luck!
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emt_61 New Member

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Posted: 30 December 2007 02:04 am |
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| exersice is just part of calorie burning you body will burn 2000 cals in a 24 hour period just running itself without you doing any thing you burn cals sleeping. all of the calorie charts on food are based on a 2000 a day caloric intake.. i lost 120 pounds on a 1500 cal a day diet so yes you can survive on 1800 cals good luck
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Posted: 3 January 2008 01:39 am |
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It's impossible to eat 1800 calories per day if you're living on subs and fast food and beer, as you seem to be doing. You can't expect to lose weight and keep it off if you don't watch what you're putting in your mouth.
The fact remains that fewer calories in and more calories out = weight loss.
And in the end, it doesn't matter all THAT much what foods those calories come from. In essentials, a calorie is a calorie whether it came from a chocolate bar or a cucumber.
But you're going to have a MUCH easier (and less hungry) time with this if you eat fruits and vegetables and whole grains and go easy on stuff like alcohol and pizza.
Think about this -- one breadstick from Pizza Hut is 150 calories; so is five zucchinis. Which do you think you'd be less hungry on?
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HarleyNinja237 New Member
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Posted: 3 January 2008 02:04 am |
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wow i really acted like a little kid in here...sorry guys
also i went shopping for low cal foods and found some GREAT stuff for low cals...
like that processed greasy turkey from oscar mayer...only 25 cals a slice
you can get low cal breads for 40 cals a slice
mozzarella cheese has low cals compared to cheese
brocolli has 125 for a huge back
diet soda (i love soda so im glad i found this) doesnt taste that much worse and has 0 cals
found low cal tuna etc...
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 3 January 2008 03:47 am |
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'Tis ok. I think we all do sometimes. You were kinda closed minded, but you came around, so so what?
Yeah, broccoli is great! I'm not so sure about eh "greasy pocessed turkey" I think deli turkey is less greasy and processed, but it may be more expensive, not positive.
I LOVE diet soda. A little too much actually. I know it isn't as healthy as water, but...And, I have been drinking only diet for so long, I don't even like regulr anymore. It tastes soooo sweet, it makes me wanna gag.
Well, good luck Harley. Hope to hear more from you soon!
CG
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Posted: 4 January 2008 12:25 am |
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Diet soda is my lifesaver. I was a caffeine addict...and then I started drinking diet soda, which has less caffeine.
Of course, the diet soda I'm hooked on (Diet Pepsi Max) has a LOT of caffeine, but I've limited my consumption to one small bottle per day (used to be a lot more). It tastes EXACTLY like normal Pepsi.
Also Diet Dr Pepper, Diet Mt Dew, Sierra Mist Free (the cranberry kind is great), and Diet Sunkist taste absolutely exactly like their calorie-packed counterparts.
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Katie1786 New Member

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Posted: 6 January 2008 05:07 am |
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Harley,
I have some more healthy food suggestions to help you out.
If you have a Trader Joe's grocery store near where you live you should check it out. They have some great healthy selections. They have these Chili-Lime Chicken burgers that have only 110 calories a burger, with a slice of fat-free cheddar (30 cal), some sugar-free ketchup (10 cal) on a lite bun (80 cal), you can have an entire burger for only 230 calories. Also, their turkey meatballs have only 100 calories in two meatballs. I usually eat four at dinner time with pasta or another side. They also have chicken sausage that has around 100-120 calories per link. If you don't have Trader Joe's in the neighborhood, you might be able to find similar products in the regular grocery store.
I also just found a website that sells great sugar-free breakfast pastries. I think it is called the sugar free candy store. I just ordered some sugar free chocolate donuts with chololate creme filling. They are 100 calories apiece and are absolutely delicious. They are made with soy flour and contain 10 grams of protein per donut. I also bought some muffins there, which I have yet to try. Some kinds of muffins have 80 calories, others have about 140. They are kind of expensive, but to me it is worth it. Don't waste your money on the individually packaged cookies though, they are really tiny for the amount of calories.
You can also cook your own healthy foods. I make low-calorie versions of my favorite foods all the time. For example, for the holidays, my mom makes me some green bean casserole with reduced fat cream soup and no fried onions. Skip the stuffing or make your own, omitting the butter and bacon, which is where most of the fat comes from. Turkey is fine, so long as it is white meat without skin. Ham is good too, just trim the fat from the edges. Mashed potatoes can be made with skim milk and fat free buttery spread like Promise brand. In baked goods, substitute splenda for sugar and foods like applesauce and pureed tofu can be substituted for fat in many recipes. Sometimes the substitutions turn out great, sometimes they don't, it is really a trial and error process. Some recipes, like certain cookies require butter for texture, but alot of times you can reduce the amount of butter and add more water to hold the dough together. I made crescent moon cookies this way and they turned out great. Also, powdered sugar can be made by processing splenda and cornstarch in a blender for a few minutes. You can find great low-fat and low sugar recipes anywhere on the internet. The splenda website has some great dessert recipes. My whole family loves when I make a splenda cheesecake.
Also, try to incorporate some protein at every meal, as it will make you feel more full. When I eat alot of protein, I am absolutely stuffed.
If you need anymore suggestions, feel free to ask me. I have alot of knowledge to share about low-calorie food options. 
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bryanmc New Member
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Posted: 6 January 2008 02:21 pm |
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hey ninja-
have you thought about lifting weight? for every 3 lbs of muscle you put on, you burn 10,000 extra calories per month. *source: Power of 10 by A Zickerman* crazy huh?
muscles take a lot more energy to keep up. i use The Power of 10 lifting routine. once a week for great results. check it out on amazon. the author is Adam Zickerman -
heres the link: amazon.com/Power-10-Once-Week-Revolution/dp/0060008881
And as for cutting calories, i use a weight loss shake called Alka Slim - mortersupplements.com - which has just 86 calories and can be used a meal replacement shake. it fills me up and tastes pretty good.
hope these help!Last edited on 6 January 2008 03:09 pm by
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mollymoo24 Distinguished Member

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Posted: 6 January 2008 04:30 pm |
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Harley Ninja,
I am glad you are open to trying some new things and finding some options at the grocery store. I am going through my own learning experience riight now about the things we eat and learning that reading the labels, subbing in a few more healthy options, means you can continue to eat a good quantity of food and feel full.
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random4180 New Member
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Posted: 8 January 2008 05:22 pm |
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If you have a Trader Joe's grocery store near where you live you should check it out.
totally agree with this! I love trader joe's- as a vegan, I find that my "alternative" type of foods are cheaper there than in most grocery stores (plus, it's a half mile walk to the store near me, so I can get some exercise in, too!)
do you cook most of your own foods, like, from scratch? a lot of times the processing of foods can add hidden calories. also, a lot of times there's more than one serving to each package so if you eat the whole thing, you're getting doubly screwed. for me, I probably don't eat 1800 calories most days- a lot of non-meat/dairy/egg foods just aren't very calorie-packed, lol.
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SoOverIt New Member
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Posted: 21 June 2008 09:56 pm |
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Ok, first of all, to the best of your ability try not to get the fear about weight gain. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world. If you are overweight then most likely you did not gain your excess weight extremely quickly, and as frustrating as it is, you can't expect to lose it quickly and keep it off. Have patience (easier said than done, I know). Take it from someone who has been there and is now--getting the fear about weight gain is not going to help your health or sanity. You need to give your body time to acclimate to calorie intake changes--the human body is an extraordinary machine and can adjust to and make sense out of a lot, even when we can't quite wrap our heads around it (i.e. higher calorie intake).
Also, depricing yourself of sleep to do running is disconcerting. I too have employed this method only to physically and emotionally crash and burn. If you let yourself get enough sleep not only will your metabolism be naturally higher, but you'll be less hungry and you'll have more energy to have a high quality workout later in the day.
I know it feels tough but 1800 is doable. Though, depending on your age, height, weight, exercise habits, and body composition you may need more than this. At the moment my doctors and nutritionist are getting on me big time about that I only have btw 1500-1800 a day and they say that despite the fact that I'm short girl (5ft, 1/2in) and have a screwy metabolism from years of dysfunctional eating habits and am not overweight that I need more calories than that--so, unless you're also very short and have an out of wack metabolism you could very well need more than 1800. Sounds counterintuitive right? Well, the thing is if you don't give your body enough fuel your metabolism will come to a screaching halt. You need to add fuel to the fire of your metabolism.
Anyway, good luck,
Laura
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 21 June 2008 10:51 pm |
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Harley,
I realize that I'm posting late for this and I saw that you went to the store and found some low cal food which is awesome. I don't presume to know what kind of things make losing weight for you difficult but I thought I would share some of my own tips. I'm a self proclaimed over-eater in my head I have a set amount I want or think I need to eat. When I don't eat that much I feel deprived. For me just knowing that this is ridiculous and that I don't need to eat that much help me feel satisfied. I kind of imagine that I have a "hunger button" and when I feel hungry I turn it off. Even if I were a little hungry I turn it off, because if I don't I will over eat. Once I turn it off I'm fine I can be perfectly happy eating a set amount and still feel satisfied. I also choose foods that are low in calorie and that I really like. I tend to not count calories because I get bogged down by it. But I can still lose weight without counting them as long as I have a general idea of how many calories I ate that day. Be careful to drink plenty of water I really think half the time I'm dehydrated and don't know it, not that I'm thirsty but that my body is low in water and I need to restock it. I also don't count non starchy fresh fruits and veggies in my total calorie intake, I can eat as many strawberries I want, no limit, not only does this ensure I get a really high amount of fiber so it fills me up but I don't feel so constricted like I have set so many limits for myself. Also I limit alcohol consumption, I feel like I'm starving after I drink.
I hope this helps
J
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Posted: 8 July 2008 05:04 pm |
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choose 18 items from this 100 calorie museum and you may be very satisfied:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXILLzve54
Photos of food totaling exactly 100 kcal.
Perhaps the music really hammers the message in, but people around me can remember each food for over month, after watching once. perhaps they'll remember it forever.
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Man van twaalf
Netherlands
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1seekspie Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 July 2008 03:20 am |
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I kind of skimmed through this post, and the topic is really interesting....
I myself have a hard time keeping my calorie limit in check.
My issue is that I go through phases where I sometimes find it very important to track everything I eat, but then I stop because I get jealous of people that don't....
Also, I'm extremely good about tracking breakfast, and even lunch, but a few snacks between the dinner hour and bedtime will sneak in and I'll sometimes go without tracking them.
I could get away with eating a LOT of food for 1500-1600 calories (my limit), if I stick to fruits, vegetables, and other items that have few calories. Of course, my mom isn't going to run to the store and buy 15 bags of vegetables so I can stay within calorie limits for a day!
One more problem, I like what I'm "spending my calorie limit" on to be WORTH "the purchase," if you know what I mean. My goal is to get as much healthy, yet delicious food in a day as I can without going over my limit. I tend to eat a lot of peanut butter durring the day, so while "delicious" is a goal that's achieved, staying healthy within my caloric limits is a bit harder to accomplish.....
I've tried to find other things outside of food that I truly love. I like biking and playing my saxophone, but there is no pleasure in life that compares to the rich taste of my favorite foods. When I first want on a diet I thought I'd be happier if I lost weight, but really I wasn't happy when I was restricting everything I loved on a constant basis.
That lead to binges and a lot of negative emotions that I really didn't have to experience. My goal now is to eat what I enjoy, whilst still restricting enough to stay at my target-weight.
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 9 July 2008 03:02 pm |
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Beautiful, 1seekspie. Exactly.
CG
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NoUserName New Member
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Posted: 9 July 2008 04:16 pm |
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| So i only eat about 1,000 calories a day. When i'm on good behavior i don't have a problem with keeping my cal intake low. You have to eat alot of fruits and veggies, and drink water! only water! Try to stay away from coffee (yes i know its hard) but if your going to bed hungry every night you should be eating your calories instead of drinking them. You could have two apples instead of that coffee.
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Another Day New Member
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Posted: 9 July 2008 04:30 pm |
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Hey Harley,
What exactly are you eating? You should post a diet log of everything you eat in a day, and when you eat it, and then see where the problem is occurring. I weigh 225lbs and I generally eat less than 2k / day, I could cut back to 1800 without too much work.
My schedule looks like this: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/forums/forum31/6296.html
I'm curious what yours looks like. I have to note, by the way, that juices are the biggest offenders when it comes to excess calories. Coffee, orange juice, sodas, energy drinks. All of these add up real quick. If you cut out the drinks and replace them with water, you'll find you've easily reduced your caloric intake by 500 minimum.
That might be hard to stomach for some, but its a start. Why don't you map out everything you eat, just track it all for one day, and look up how many calories each drink / meal is. Then at the end of the day, see how close you are and we can offer suggestions on possible substitutions.
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