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1seekspie
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Posted: 18 September 2007 01:18 am |
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This is lingering on my mind and I really need to talk about it and perhaps get some help with this issue:
I'm in a beginner's dance class in 1st period every other day. I don't like it but it's the only thing that involves physical activity without playing a sport or running 5 miles. It is pretty much the best option for me and it's a pretty good exercise, correct? I just have 1 little problem: I can't compete with the stick-figures in my class !
It's killing me! I know I shouldn't compare so durastically but there are mirrors everywhere and 50% of the class is thinner than me. I wish I was like that and is there a way I can get there? Here's some background: I'm 5,3 I weigh 107.5, and I'm 14 and 1/2. I know the best way to get small/healthy is to eat healthy and exercise.
Well here's what a normal day looks like for me:
Breakfast: 1 cup of green tea, 2/3-3/4 cup of Crisp-X with same amount of Soy Milk light.
Lunch: A snack of 2 calliflower pieces with about 8 lima-bean snaps and an actual lunch a few hours later of 2 slices of wheat bread (wonder light) with rice and lettuce on it plus a small peach and 1 "active yogurt" (80 calories w/ 9 grams of sugar...not too horrible I don't think).
Dinner: Varies from what my mom makes but it's typically low carb. Tonight features salmon with greenbean cassorole.
As far as exercise goes, I have dance class 90 minutes a day...2-3 days a week with what my teacher estimated 50-60 minutes of dancing. Outside of that I dance after school with my own crazy moves...2-3 days a week (not on the same days I have dance). I also go to school five days a week and doesn't an 8 hour school day burn like 700 calories?
This all sounds like enough and has been pretty consistent for the last week or so! Ok, today I had an infraction and drank a small cappacino and ate a few handfuls of trail mix cheesy chip things I think they're called at lunch. But that shouldn't hold me back too bad will it? I need to know if this will help me eventually get as tiny as the sticks in my dance class...or are they naturally thin? This is driving me nuts!
Sorry this is soooooooo long btw but I think I needed all this information to get specific help with my issue . If you read this without falling asleep an answer would make me eternally grateful! 
Last edited on 18 September 2007 01:20 am by 1seekspie
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Nir
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Posted: 18 September 2007 02:46 am |
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1seekspie wrote: I'm 5,3 I weigh 107.5, and I'm 14 and 1/2.
Your BMI is 19.0. If you can't be happy with that, either there is something wrong with the way you are looking at the mirror (which is a possibility you should acknowledge) or alternatively maybe this is a body composition issue that is best addressed by monitoring your body fat % rather than your weight.
Did I read elsewhere that you're restricting calories to 1200? Does not sound like a wise thing, your unadjusted RMR is 1320, you should not be consuming less than that. At your age you do not want to stunt growth / development. You should be losing fat eating 1320 anyhow, even without any activity.
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clarinetgurl
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Posted: 18 September 2007 04:57 am |
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Hey, 1sp,
Um...you sound rather twig-ish to me 
At inch shorter than me and about 30 pounds lighter...
I wonder what those girls weigh that you envy. Cause honestly, as Nir pointed out, it is not going to be healthy to weigh much less than you do right now..
Don't do anything too drastic! 
CG
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1seekspie
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Posted: 18 September 2007 05:36 am |
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You think I sound twiggish? Yes, I acknowlege the fact that I am not obese by any means nor am I even overweight but I'm not twiggish despite my B.M.I.
I just want to know how they got to that point...Idk if they're buhlimic or could it just be their blessed genes? Anyway, I promise I won't become anorexic (again) and it's not that I'm purposely restricting my caloric in-take, it's just hard to eat much more because it'd take 4ever to eat enough veggies and fruits to get to that point and even w/ nuts/crackers it's kind of tricky...but I'm trying and I don't want to stunt my growth (though there's not much to stunt because my family is naturally short and I was told years ago I'd only be 5,4. Not the worst height but I won't be any basketball player).
Anyway, thanks again for the advice---really appreciate it!!!
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Ohm
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Posted: 18 September 2007 01:05 pm |
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Please, 1seekspie, be careful. In fact, time to be careful is well and truly established. You have clearly had a condition you identify to yourself as annorexia, as you say:
Anyway, I promise I won't become anorexic (again)
and you say that you are not trying to lose weight:
and it's not that I'm purposely restricting my caloric in-take, it's just hard to eat much more because it'd take 4ever to eat enough veggies and fruits to get to that point and even w/ nuts/crackers it's kind of tricky
and yet you are posting messages here, on a weight loss site, clearly concerned about your size.
People who have annorexia tend to have a condition called "body dysmorphia". This condition leads them to be unable to accurately assess their own appearance regarding weight. Even when they are very slim, even skinny, they actually perceive themselves as grossly fat, obese, overweight, etc. As you have been annorexic before, I am wondering if you are completely over your struggle with this particular disorder? Perhaps you are just as twig-like as the other girls in your dance class, but you are still body dysmorphic and unable to perceive yourself/your body as it truly is?
In light of your previous problems in this area, I think itt would be a really good idea for you to go and talk to the resident councillor, or to your local health care representative/GP/Doctor or a nurse who specialises in this sort of area. You aren't fat, an dyou aren't even vaguely overweight, so, although nobody could deny your right to control your body weight as you see fit, you should remember that health is far more important than fashionable weight, size zero isn't for everybody and there is more to life than being the slimmest person in the class/room/group.
Best of luck
B
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NevD
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Posted: 18 September 2007 05:32 pm |
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I'd question the reasoning behind admiration of 'twig-like'. I'm not alone (judging from comments I hear) in thinking that many fashion models look positively ill.
Elite female athletes and some professional dancers, too, seem to exercise and eat to the extent that their body fat percentages fall below the 'ideal' category and even hover at the wrong end of the 'lean' category.
When you reach that stage, some unfortunate side effects seem to kick in, but then I guess the ladies would know more about that...
There's a healthy body fat range that constitutes a sensible target. If you reach that range and you're still not as willowy as you'd like to be, then I think you need to accept it.
I resigned myself long ago to the realisation that I was never going to be a beachwear model. But I'm fit, healthy, enjoy my sports, feel good (nowadays) in whatever I wear -
Is it unreasonable to expect more than that? I will leave it to others to answer.
Unrealistic targets are the bringers of unhappiness, so restrict yourself to realistic ones.
(I'm reminded of the occasion when I was asked who I'd invite to my 'ideal' party. When I analysed my answer, I saw that many of the females were comedians that I admire, almost all of them 'ample' or heavier, but all of whom I thought would make a party fun. There wasn't a single fashion model or twig-like dancer among them - because they generally don't look like they could even spell 'fun', let alone have any).
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Fatale
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Posted: 18 September 2007 07:35 pm |
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My daughter is your age and hights, but about 30 lbs heavier, so are most of her friends. I'm not telling any of them HOW to LOSE weight, but how to live healthy, how to find a balance in what they eat and exercise. I think it would be irresponsible to sent any of the teenagers I know on weightlos diets and they are all bigger than you are. In my opinion, you should change how you see yourself. Skinny is only pretty as long as it's healthy.
Be careful dieting - you're the best age to "catch" an eating disorder!
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1seekspie
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Posted: 19 September 2007 03:38 am |
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I must say, it's nice to hear good points from actual everyday people rather than points from videos in health class or public service announcements about these issues.
Obviously I came here wanting to lose more weight but re-reading this...I suppose it sounds more like anorexic behavior than anything else, DUH . I was really wondering if there would be a way that I could become as small as the girls in my class without having to go to extreme durastic measures but obviously this is not so and I bet I'm leaving everyone believing I'm overly obsessed and apparently "have problems looking in the mirror."
I've already recieved help with my food issues and though I find the help has led me to actually EAT more, I still have the frame of mind of one with an eating-disorder. I've talked with friends, parents, and my doctor. Everyone is supportive but honestly my mind still refuses to change. I'm still trying to work on it, and truth be told caloriesperhour has proven to actually be the most helpful in easing my frame of mind. I find myself sometimes questioning what I'm eating, if I should be eating less, ect so that's where posts like these come in.
Yesterday I was upset for various reasons and when I get like that...my mind starts doing the whole: "You're fat you need to lose weight thing" again. Now I feel a little bit better...and kind of stupid for putting this up in the 1st place. Thanks, everyone, for STILL responding, however.
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clarinetgurl
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Posted: 19 September 2007 03:47 am |
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1seekspie wrote:
Yesterday I was upset for various reasons and when I get like that...my mind starts doing the whole: "You're fat you need to lose weight thing" again. Now I feel a little bit better...and kind of stupid for putting this up in the 1st place. Thanks, everyone, for STILL responding, however.
I know JUST what you mean...when I get to feeling blue, my mind tells me: You always do everything wrong, you're fat and you'll never be thin, you'll never have a boyfriend, you'll never be able to live up to your own expectations of yourself...
Why do we let ourselves tell us horrible things?
I am a beautiful person, and so are you. So I'm glad you're feeling better.
CG
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1seekspie
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Posted: 19 September 2007 05:46 am |
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| Aaaw, thank you...I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who will occasionally board the feel-bad boat and react the same way...but I don't feel bad anymore.
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Ohm
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Posted: 25 September 2007 01:29 pm |
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It is part of what makes us human that we accept what we hear, even the Bible (I beleive) says somewhere that "faith comes through hearing" (please don't ask me for a reference on this one, I can't cite chapter and verse on this one). So when we make a positive step like changing our lifestyle it takes a long time for us to accept and really beleive inthe changes we have made. Thus, when we are stressed out our minds return to what they know (or knew) to be so,and the old negativities re-surface.
Positive affirmations help (standing in front of the mirror saying nice things to yourself). Makes you feel a bit of a twit at first, but they are said to be very effective.
B
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1seekspie
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Posted: 25 September 2007 03:07 pm |
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| Hmmm, very interesting take Becci. I guess I could try that. Just curious, have you ever tried it?
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Ohm
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Posted: 25 September 2007 03:09 pm |
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| Myself? No, I have to admit that I haven't given that one a go - but then my particular profession doesn't lend itself to trying every therapy - I'd have no time left to enjoy being myself!
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clarinetgurl
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Posted: 26 September 2007 05:03 am |
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1seekspie wrote: Hmmm, very interesting take Becci. I guess I could try that. Just curious, have you ever tried it?
I'm pretty sure Nir and...nevd maybe? subscribe to this idea. Ok, maybe not infront of the mirror...but the positiv affirmations.
The way I understand, you say what you want, like you already have it.
Like:"
I am thin, and happy, an beautiful.
I am toned and healthy.
I am not completely addicted to moose tracks ice cream 
etc etc...
They could give you better examples than me.
CG
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1seekspie
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Posted: 26 September 2007 06:38 am |
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Moose Tracks Ice cream? Actually I've never had that before but until I started this whole thing ice cream was my kryptonite! Particularily mint...anything mint sounds good to me! As far as treats I eat on a frequent basis, I usually commit to a little cappacino about 4-5 times a week at least. It's from my mom's no-sugar-added vanilla and it tastes great especially with a little----
I'm getting off topic and probably sparking some one's hunger pangs...oopsies . Anyway, positive affirmations do sound like a good idea. Although I find the hardest person to persuade is normally myself. Usually when I feel a little down about my body it's really hard to begin thinking otherwise. What works for me is simply delaying the issue and foccussing on other things and keeping busy. At the end of the day I still have to look at myself in the mirror, however. I'm going to look at myself, no doubt about it. The question isn't, do I look, it's how do I look in my own opinion?
I will try positive affirmations; there's no harm in it. I'll even test myself...tomorrow...in front of the million mirrors in dance class! In fact I think I already have and truth be told some of those skinny girls are actually starting to NOT look so good and happy. In fact this one looks almost sickly! It's so obvious I feel silly for posting this thing in the 1st place. But---I can't stretch this enough---thanks for the support!
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