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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 3 August 2006 06:37 pm |
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Tricking “My” Addict
In the beginning of my journey, I thought I was fighting myself, and I had to stop myself from wanting to eat everything that was not locked away. Then I realized that I was not fighting myself, what I was fighting was the food addict in me. I really wanted to be Thin and Serene and not spend every waking hour thinking about food. I was letting my addict rob me of everything that “could” have been precious to me... my health, my family and my life.
Activity I did: Listed as many things as I could think of that my addict has kept me from doing, made not happen or taken away from me.
At first, I even felt sorry for my addict because, I thought, she felt she would die if she did not eat, eat, and eat. Then I started wondering why I was feeling sorry for my addict (which I choose to call her) when what she wanted was for me to suffer and ultimately die. Believe me, if I had continued the way I was, that’s what would have happened.
Activity I did- Wrote about what my addict wants for me.
I spent the first 33 years of my life being tricked by that addict, at 33 I learned I could trick her back. That was the point when things started turning around. One of my addict’s biggest trick, that I fell for repeatedly, was, “that I could eat just one”. I fell for that one again and again and again. I would no sooner be getting over my last binge: which always started with me thinking “that I could have just one. When as soon as my stomach started emptying out, I would fall for it again.
This truly went on from about the age 7 to 33. When I realized that with the foods that l loved that loved me back; One was too many and a million was not enough. (I wrote about these food in my “My Truth” share.
Activity I did- Made a poster saying:
One is Too Many and……..
A Million will never be enough!!
And put it up where I could see it often.
Another reason I believe I have been successful in losing my weight and keeping it off these 7300+ days or 20 years is because I refuse to give up.I find that when I feel like giving up it's usually in the evening. . Having learned this, I can then counter those thoughts, knowing I'm not really thinking them my addict is. Thus, one of the rules I have is any decisions to give up can only be made in the morning. I don't think I have even once wanted to give up in the morning.
This is another way I trick my addict she thinks if she keeps on me, I will give up but the joke is on her because I will
Never
Never
Never
Give up!!
In the beginning of my journey, my hardest time not to eat use to be evenings. That's the time that my food addict was the strongest and made part, if not all of my decisions. My addict had me tricked into believing that I would die, I mean really die, if I went without food from the end of dinner to breakfast the next morning. Now I knew in my rational mind that many “normal” eaters did this and did not die. But her control over me, especially in the evenings, was so complete I truly thought I would die.
How I turned the tables and started tricking her was: one even some how I made it through the evening without eating. (I think I went to bed at 5:05 that night) and realize not only would I not die…… But in the morning I had no desire to eat what ever my addict wanted my to eat the night before. What a revelation that was. If I could just make it through the after dinner hours, even if in the beginning had to go to bed at 2 minutes after dinner, in the morning, miracle of miracles I did not want to eat. I was on my way to becoming Thin and Serene.
This little “aha” put me in the drivers seat. From this point forward when ever she would try to talk me into eating in the evening I would just say “you can have it in the morning”. Some evening I had to tell my addict this over and over again to get us to morning. And every morning the joke was on her because I was in control and only wanted to eat healthy good for me food. I have been deceiving her with this trick for 7,296 days, or 20 years on July 8. And it all started with 1 day.
Having fun in recovery
Ravae
excerpt from my battling food addiction auto biography
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Frankie Senior Member

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Posted: 31 January 2007 04:23 am |
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If you're still around...thanks so much for this post. This sounds like the type of problem I'm grappling with. It's inspirational to know that it can be overcome.
Frankie
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clarinetgurl Distinguished Member

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Posted: 1 February 2007 06:55 am |
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Wow...really neat ideas and concepts. I like it. I bet it is an interesting book.
clar
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margot68 New Member
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Posted: 2 February 2007 08:42 am |
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| This was great to read and i realise that I've utilised similar strategies with my weight loss.
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PrincessYoYo New Member

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Posted: 21 December 2007 07:47 am |
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I like your outlook on "cravings" or your "Addict"
I should tell myself that too and trick my addict, especially at work!
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arq43 New Member
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Posted: 5 January 2008 02:20 am |
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| I love your post. My addict is really annoying, especially at night and when people place free food out at work. I like your ideas. It is really inspirational to know that I can do it. I've been wanting to eat all night, but I have been trying to read through these forums. I think I live the same life as you because I am the same way, in that, I am always ready to go in the morning, but as the afternoon hits, I start to sway away. Thanks for your post! I am going to try and fight my addict!
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jonibug New Member

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Posted: 22 January 2008 02:29 am |
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I've been on diet forums for 10 years and never heard this trick! Thank you! this is GREAT!!!
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artistjohn Moderator

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Posted: 1 February 2008 12:55 pm |
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Great post, Love the addict story, Identify 100 per cent!!
I once read, "my addict is on my computer as an icon on my desktop just waiting for me to loosen my grip, then like a virus the program will open up and take over"
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cportwine Distinguished Member

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Posted: 29 April 2008 05:10 pm |
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| I thought this post was great! We all go through some sort of emotional issues when dieting. It's nice to see someone posting about it and even better yet, overcoming some of those issues.
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 6 May 2008 01:13 am |
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The following is a letter from my addict to me.
I AM YOUR DISEASEI hate recovery. I hate support groups. I hate anyone who has a Program. To all that come in contact with me, I wish you suffering and death. Allow me to introduce myself. I am the disease of food addiction.
I am cunning, baffling and powerful. That's me! I've killed millions
and enjoyed doing it. I love to catch you by surprise. I love
pretending I'm your friend and lover.
I've given you comfort. Wasn't I there when you were lonely? When you wanted to die, didn't you call on me?I love to make you hurt. I love to make you cry. Better yet, I love it when I make you so numb you can't hurt and you can't cry. You feel nothing at all.I give you instant gratification. All I ask in return is long-term suffering. I've always been there for you. When things were going right, you invited me back. You said you didn't deserve to be happy. I agreed with you. Together we were able to destroy your life.People don't take me seriously. They take strokes seriously. They take heart attacks seriously. Even diabetes, they take seriously. Yet, without my help, these things wouldn't be possible.I'm such a hated disease, yet I don't come uninvited. You choose to have me. Many have chosen me instead of love and peace.
When you settle for mere existence, I thrive and grow more powerful
every day, but when you work to feel fully alive, I weaken.
I hate all of you who have recovery. Your Program, your support groups and your persistence weakens me. I can't function in the manner I'm accustomed to. When you have recovery, I must lie here
quietly, but I’m always here waiting for you. Until we meet again, I wish you Continued suffering and death.
Sincerely,
Your disease
I will never be “normal” in my relationship with food, all I have is a daily reprieve conditional on my staying out of my No Matter What Red List foods. And it”s imperative that I remember as I enjoy a more “normal” relationship with food, it’s only a gift dependent on my avoiding any and all my No Matter What Red List foods. Furthermore, my disease is busy doing “push up’s“, just waiting for me to eat even one No Matter What Red List food so she can destroy my life.
My
Disease/addict
Wants Me
Dead
My addict no longer lives with me. She has tried to come a visit but I always slam the door in her face!! and now I love a magical life. really magical......
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Runner_Geek New Member

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Posted: 7 May 2008 07:19 am |
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Wow .. That is powerful .. I can relate w/addiction b/c I've struggled w/drug and alcohol addiction for over a decade. It has an incredibly strong grip, and willpower alone cannot ward it off. It's so easy to become active in the disease again, too. I wish you luck in breaking free from the cycle of addiction. 
xx amy xx
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REDQUEEN New Member

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Posted: 7 May 2008 01:25 pm |
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Ravae11,
Wow, Wow, Wow. . . I can't believe that your post has been here all this time and I have missed it until now!
Profound! I can totally identify with everything you wrote. . . you have such insight. . .I have the exact same struggles and battles. . . I am trying so hard to get rid of mine. . .
Thank you so much for sharing!!!
Best wishes, and many prayers.
REDQUEEN
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 24 June 2008 12:22 am |
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For the last three years I have been on a very structured eating plan and its time to start expermenting a little. Hence, I have started adding more food choices And this is stiring up my addict so I'm going to start posting my journey. I definitely feel I'm reading to meet my addict in the ring and come out the winner.
My addict hates Discipline. So to show her who's boss this morning I waited until 7 to eat breakfast (I get up at 5 ish) I also washed last nights dishes before I ate. My addict does not usually wake up until noonish so its good to practice discipline in the morning while its easy because she's still sleeping. Then later in the day I already have my discipline muscle going, Hence it's easier to zing her.
I'm also practicing my "one bit at a time" game, now I know all of you always eat only "one bite at a time" but not this girl......In the past I would not have even completely swallowed one bite before shoving another. No wonder I was usually done before everyone
My new way of eating is moderate carbs, three meals a day........eat like a king for breakfast, a queen for lunch and a pauper for dinner
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 24 June 2008 02:23 pm |
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Feeling Good!!!
When I feel good it's impossible for me to eat anything that is not perfect for my body. I can also hear the things my addict says for the lies they are. So my life is ultimately about feeling good and being happy. It's really just that easy, can you tell it's morning and my addicts alseep. When she wakes up then starts the brainwashing where I forget the best defense again her is feelilng good and who doesn't like to feel good. Eventually I will feel so good all the time she will die. So these are the priorities in my life feel good, feel good then feel good some more. (Me doing the feel good dance)
I'm feeling really good right now because I'm talking to my 8 month old grandson as I type. It's kind of a one sided conversation but by watching him I can tell we are meant to to happy.
Disciplining myself makes me happy, it makes me feel strong. So it's 6:19am and I will again be delaying the gratifacation of my delicious breakfast until 7 am.Last edited on 24 June 2008 02:24 pm by Ravae
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REDQUEEN New Member

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Posted: 24 June 2008 02:40 pm |
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Ravae11,
I was thrilled to see that you had posted a reply in Tricking My Addict. I wanted to tell you that you have inspired me so much. I have been writing a variation of your mantra of "One is too many; a million is never enough" at the top of each page of my journal/calorie notebook.
Questions: Where is your autobiography? Is it posted somewhere on here?Also, where are you going to be posting the record of your journey? I am anxious to follow your progress, and I would love to join you on the trip.
You ROCK girl!!
Your Friend,
REDQUEEN
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 25 June 2008 02:20 am |
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| I turned my auto bio into a food program.....the one that I used for the first 15 years of my recovery. I have it in a blog I will put a link here if its ok? It talks about and shows how I lost my weight and kept it off for the first 15 years.
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REDQUEEN New Member

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Posted: 26 June 2008 07:21 pm |
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Ravae11,
I would love to read your blog and learn more about your story. Although I have seen other posts with links in them, I am not really sure of the rules concerning links. 
Maybe you could try to post it? Hopefully one of the moderators will give us some advice on the matter. If you are unable to post it, could you PM me with the link?
Thank you!
REDQUEEN
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 27 June 2008 01:30 am |
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Redqueen all you have to do is click on my name and then click homepage and it will take you there.
This was written three years ago and is out of order you will see what I mean if you check it out. It's in more draft form then finished but I'm opening it up to you anyway.
Take what you want and leave the rest. My journey now has taken a side step from there.....but I had to learn all that to be where I am now.
I will post more of my now journey here........I will tranfer it here then post recent posts to both sites as my journey continues. Hope you can benefit from my journey.
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 27 June 2008 01:34 am |
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just finished dinner. my addict is trying to get me to eat more. but writing here is giving me the pause I need to realize she want me dead. the feeling to continue with more eating was so compelling that I have to make myself realize she want me dead.......she would really like me to be one of the "living dead" which is to still live but weigh twice as much or more as I do now. She as times is almost able to put me into
zombee ville . Its really somewhat scary the power I let her have. but it only takes a few seconds pause to take back my power, once I realize she tricked me into zombee ville again .........I'm going to put a note on the fridge that says.........Before opening the fridge be sure you're not in zombee ville ?Last edited on 27 June 2008 01:41 am by Ravae
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 27 June 2008 01:36 am |
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This "Zombee ville" thing has been a huge break through for me. I have always been baffled when trying to understand what happens when I seem to loose all control and have a binge. But now I do......for that time what has happened is I have let my addict put me under a zombee like spell. And now that I am aware I can watch for it and stop it before it takes over. I'm excited for dinner tonight because I can be on guard for when the "zombee" starts to come out......so I can stop her before she gets me to the fridge and turns me into a .Last edited on 27 June 2008 01:42 am by Ravae
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 27 June 2008 01:37 am |
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Tricking My Addict
My addict is working overtime at trying to trick me into having a binge right now. I was trying to go to sleep but I have so much on my mind that my mind was fighting it When all the sudden I started getting all these thoughts that the answer to my sleep problem is to go down stairs and eat. And for a few minutes its even sounded rational, real rational for a few minutes .
Then I remember that in just a couple of hours I get to eat a king size breakfast . That thought was able to "trick" my addict long enough to let go of me so I could see she had trick me into zombee ville again where all her totally irrational thoughts seem rational.
I'm glad I've decided on my new food plan especially my king size breakfast...... because it's a great weapon to use against my addicts control over me .
God knows she has tricked me for so long that it is good to be turning the tables on h er .....more and more all the time.Last edited on 27 June 2008 01:42 am by Ravae
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 27 June 2008 01:38 am |
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Its morning and after 7 and I just finished part of my yummy breakfast I had a large bowl of nutricious fat free, sugar free chocolate pudding and beings my breakfast is a kings breakfast I'm also going to have my delicious healthy apple and soynut butter dish too. It's alright to love my food:hugs.
I'm working on making friends with my food, I have never been friends with my food . I think mainly because my addict always has something negative to say about everything I eat......... Like when I ate my breakfast she was trying to make me feel guilty about eating my delicious totally nutricious fat free sugar free chocolate pudding.......when if it was dinnner time which is my light meal and not the time for pudding she/my addict would try to get me to eat it. She will do anything to make me feel guilty. But now that I'm not going into Zombee ville as easily any more I can see her for what she is.
Ok now I'm caught up and will post new insights to both forums.
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Posted: 28 June 2008 06:05 pm |
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I recently started drinking something I call James Ray's Breakfast Shake. (I read about it in “Harmonic Wealth” by James Ray) There is actually a whole section on the physical body and he offers up some great ideas that have worked for me.
One of those is starting off the day with a glass of water with lemon and then making my first meal a green shake. Yep, veggies for breakfast. Still doesn’t hit the spot like a pile of pancakes, but I’ve lost seven pounds in the last month and a half and my skin is looking a lot brighter and clearer. Good luck and God bless!
a James Ray Fan
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 30 June 2008 11:41 am |
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Thanks for replying.
I use to do a shake for breakfast too. But now its seems more fun to eat like a king for breakfast, a queen for lunch and a pauper for dinner. Beings I'm at my goal weight and just need to stay there. Besides I'm really into having fun and the Law of attraction. So if I did a shake now it would most likely be for dinner. If you are into James Ray you must be into LOA too.
I went and saw James Ray and he's not my thing but a lot of others sure seemed to really like him. My thing is abraham and ester hicks.
Sometimes I eat veggies for breakfast and I almost always eat about 16 ounes each for lunch and dinner. I to like warm lemon water with stevia I call it my sweet water.
My journey now is to make friends with my food, I have dieted for so long, which seems to make food the enemy, that I'm ready for food to be my friend. That's why I do things like eat sugar free-fat free pudding for breakfast when ever I want. I also eat tons of pancakes but I make them with wheat germ and flaxseed meal.
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
Here is a pict. of me having fun.
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 2 July 2008 11:52 pm |
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I have started telling my dinner intensions to my co-food coach a few days ago . That has been working well. Dinner is the time when my addict is most alert and on my back . Therefore, reporting my dinner to another keeps me accountable and her at bay .
Lunch has been interesting though.....lunch is my queen/middle size meal. my addict is always telling me I'm eating to much at lunch. But I am not.....even if I was it's not her business ( I don't need to bow down to her).......it's between me and my scales. If the scales goes above 130 then that will tell my to cut back on lunch.
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 6 July 2008 10:19 pm |
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Just got home from camping.....I decided while camping to take many liberties with my food (I ate somethings I have not eaten in a year .......Now I did stay away from sugar..... In fact Tomorrow I will celebrate 22 years off sugar)....Now you notice I said "I took liberties with my food" because I don't want to give my addict the satisfaction of believing she got one over on me. Here is me kicking my addict where it counts.
Now today to show "myself" and my addict that I am in control of what I eat I have decided to fast . It will be a 24 hour fast. I last ate yesterday at 7:30 pm. So I will have a small dinner at 7:30 tonight. I have never done this before but it's 2:00 and I have not eaten. It's kind of cool and making me feel strong.
By doing this I will be erasing any negative emotional effects of the last two days. It won't erase what I ate but two days of eating what I wanted won't do anything to my weight, as long as I stop it for now. I love this journey I am on .Last edited on 7 July 2008 01:51 am by Ravae
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 7 July 2008 02:57 pm |
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At about 6pm my addict was really on my back trying to end my 24 hour fast early saying it would not make a difference but I knew that that last hour or so would be the most important to me emotionally. So I went out and mowed the lawn and I really like mowing the lawn and I can't hear her when I'm doing things I like . When I finished it was time to eat. I had a light dinner but one of my favorite ........here it is incase your interested soynut butter.......yogurt.........raisins....apple
My addicted tried to get me to eat more. But I just laughed at her because it wouldn't be long before I get to eat my KINGS breakfast. Plus eatings not that important to me in the morning (primarily because she/my addict is a late sleeper and does not start yacking at me until about noon.)
I will do more 24 hour fasts it makes me feel in control and "for me' there are tons of benefits to it
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 8 July 2008 12:19 pm |
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Yesterday was the anniversary of my 8030 day off sugar or 22nd year. Sometimes I wonder "how did I do it?"...........then I remember One day at a time
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 8 July 2008 03:09 pm |
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I was getting ready to finish off my KINGS breakfast when a little voice said I'm feeling kinda full .........why don't you save that for later ........and I am.... Me doing the I can save this for later dance.
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 9 July 2008 04:38 am |
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I spent a little time in zombee ville at lunch today . Therefore I have chosen to give my stomach a rest and leave it empty until breakfast. Even though it might be three steps forward one back sometimes, I really feel like I'm making friends with my stomach for the first time in my life. I have been enjoying lemon water with stevia this afternoon instead of more food.. Its almost 8:30 and I still feel slightly full. What a awesome journey this is zombee ville and all.
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Ravae New Member
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Posted: 29 July 2008 02:02 pm |
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I'm finding as I move sideways from greysheet, my portion control muscle is not working very well. In fact some meals it does not work at all
So my new plan is to eat lots of small meals/snacks a day to strengthen that muscle. Even more then that, to show myself I won't "die" if I don't eat till I'm over full all the time . It seems that the weighted and measureness of greysheet kept me small but did not help me learn to control my portion muscle I'll keep you posted on how I'm doing. I plan on having fun doing this and winning, by making peace with my portion control muscle.
My rules are I can eat as many small amounts as I want a day, I just have to have an hour between small amounts. A small amounts would be any amount where my "addict" says what are you doing trying to starve me.( this is my addict freaking out because it thinks I'm trying to starve it" )
I find that I'm not eating every hour but it helps knowing I can when I'm over powering my addict to eat only a small amount at each meal.
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Not sure what this means on the botton of my last post????????
I don't think I have tried to do this??? What ever it it
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